Courz:



Hahahahahaha. They used to teach that the Pope is angel Michael. Now it is Jesus. Do you also know that they teach that Jesus is Abbadon in the book of Revelation? This means Jesus has two identities now, Angel Michael and Abbadon. What a foolish and confused religion. 😁😁😁😁

Looool!

David Splane said.... they are not hiding anything. Let them check the facts.

The truth that was sending people into Jehovah's organization aka the finished mystery is nowhere to be found to be checked for the facts

REACTION TO THE FINISHED MYSTERY

For several months, the Bible Students had been distributing the book The Finished Mystery. Honesthearted readers reacted positively to the Bible truths it contained.

E. F. Crist, a traveling overseer in Canada, told of a couple who had read The Finished Mystery and accepted the truth in only five weeks! He said: “Both husband and wife are fully consecrated and are showing wonderful progress.”

One man who received the book shared it with his friends immediately. He was “struck” by its message. He recounts: “I was walking down Third Avenue [and] I was struck on the shoulder by what I thought was a brick, but, alas, it was ‘The Finished Mystery.’ I brought it home and read it all. . . . I have since learned that it was a preacher . . . who threw the book from his window in a rage . . . By that one act of his I firmly believe that he converted more people to a living hope than by any other act of his life. . . . Through this preacher’s wrath we now praise God.”


The truth in the finished mystery

1. Michael as “the Pope,” The Finished Mystery 1917 p.188.




That same Archangel Michael aka Jesus Chris[/b]t the son of God = [b]Pope

We don't cook up these things. The records are there.

Kingsempires:

You didn't see anything

When the Pope tells Rutherford that....

Since Jehovah and Jesus completely trust the Pope should we not do the same? So who do you trust? You fully trust Jehovah, Jesus and faithful and Pope.

Will Rutherford in his mind ever say the Pope is saying the truth and that's why he accept the Roman Catholic as God's organization?


When the shoe is on the other foot. They always run away.

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FEW people today have a deep, abiding trust in Jehovah God. Some do not even believe that he exists. Others may acknowledge God’s existence, but they pay little attention to his will. Even those who are devout in this world’s religions trust mostly in their religious traditions or in their clergymen, not in Jehovah. They are much like those of whom the apostle Paul said: “I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God; but not according to accurate knowledge; for, because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.”​—Rom. 10:2, 3.

2 Regarding the future of the human family, in whom do people trust to bring about better conditions? Most of them put their trust in human efforts, not in Jehovah’s purpose for mankind. Only a tiny minority of earth’s four billion inhabitants have carefully examined the evidence of Jehovah’s existence, have accepted their responsibilities toward him, and live their lives in obedience to his laws. These persons trust him completely, knowing that he will fulfill his promise of establishing a righteous new order for mankind. They declare, as did the ancient psalmist: “In you I have put my trust, O Jehovah. I have said: ‘You are my God.’” (Ps. 31:14) And they heed God’s warning: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.”​—Ps. 146:3.

COMPLETELY TRUST THE GOVERNING BODY so says the following men

1. Remember lies creates doubt and destroy trust. Some of what we can hear and read is based on misinformation campaign of apostates. It may sound convincing even to us even if we now say. I will not believe it anyway. I am just curious to know what it is. Exposing ourselves to this kind of misinformation can create doubt and undermine our complete trust in the Governing Body............Gajus Glockentin

2. Now in our day, there is another group of men that are sitting at one table, they never lie or deceive us. We can have absolute trust in the Governing Body........Gary Breaux


3. Since Jehovah and Jesus completely trust the faithful and discreet slave should we not do the same? So who do you trust? You fully trust Jehovah, Jesus and faithful and discreet slave. To a reasonable degree you also trust all your fellow brothers and sisters....... Gerrit Losch

What do you have to say Samuel Herd based on all of the above.........

But as we understand it, somethings Jehovah will not permit us to see even though we read over it many times we cannot see it until Jehovah put lights on it.......Samuel Herd

Based on what Samuel Herd said.....

Jehovah will not permit you to see that you should not completely trust the GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES completely despite reading it from the Bible many times


Here is the manipulation and lies.......

It is better to take refuge in Jehovah than to trust in humans. It is better to take refuge in Jehovah than to trust in princes. Psalms 118:8, 9

Do not put your trust in princes nor in son of man, who cannot bring salvation Psalms 146:3

For your own sake, quit trusting mere man, who is only the breath in his nostrils. Why should he be taken into account?........ Isaiah 2:22.

What will not make you see it?

That is why God lets a deluding influence misled them so that they may come to believe the lie, in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 2Thessalonians 2:11,12


cc: Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron, FxMasterz, Kingsempires, MightySparrow

Bestbrain123:
you shouldn't match it with that of a family.. Talking about divisonal advantage.

division get advantage match it with families or not.

Emusan:


No! Only Michael does!

Which means Michael and Jehovah are on the same level

Una too like to dey complicate matter

Courz:


And thats also why they say they are substitutes to Jesus Christ. This is not a Christian religion at all. They should be called Watchtower witnesses.

They study watchtower every Sunday for a reason

It is called Watchtower study

Kingsempires:
that is why I told him that what he said is not possible

That Romans 13 you cited, Paul said Governmental authorities are God's ministers. Max is trying to tell you they are Satan's agent. You know why?

They believe there are only two organization in the world today.....


God's organization..........aka Watchtower

Satan's organisation....... every other organisation on earth you can think of in any field of life.


In simple basic term even those primary schools set up by the government are Satan's organisation

Courz:


Exactly. 😁😁😁😁😁

That's why they can boldly say their governing body are voice of Jesus Christ and therefore as good as saying they are god (John 1:1)

Kingsempires:
Men!! You can't just be interpreting verses like that is the Bible contradicting itself ?;

Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.


Just imagine in your world were killing, stealing, kidnapping,raping, fighting etc.so just imagine if there was no Government in your country at all . men Nigeria will turn to desert . boko haram from don kill all the Christian in Nigeria fill , some body can even come at broad day light rob you and no one will take because no law .the is no organization without a head so


This thing you are saying is not possible.are you going to also tell me the if you cash a thief in your house you wouldn't call police for the person


You can't say the Government are satanic because if they close your organization you can't do anything so roman 13 have said every thing for us

You never see anything, let them thief a wall fan inside Kingdom hall they will go to police and report. Let one of it elders be caught in child abuse incident they will report to their GODS of men

Kingsempires:
WOW I have not had of that before

Your baptism is not complete until you say yes to the question that it identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization aka governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses the 9 men housed in USA

Courz:
The Trinity in JW is Jehovah, Jesus and the Organisation a.k.a The Governing body. This is only implemented in baptism. However, the Hierarchy is scattered. Starting from the highest rank to lowest:

Jehovah
Governing body / The Watchtower Society
Jesus
Holy Spirit

The last two mentioned above are just there for marketing purposes to make them look “Christian” . The first two are the most important in the Cult.

Their trinity they can't deny.... Jehovah and Jesus trust the Governing Body completely

Courz:


He is a JW PIMO. That is someone who still attends JW but does not agree with the beliefs and practises. There are many like him in JW scattered around the World. If you go to EXJW Reddit forum, you will see plenty of them there. They are also many in The Bethel headquarters in all countries where JWS are.

The ones that give their PIMI members serious worry on nairaland who exposes those boasting as PIMI as apostates


Comedy everywhere

Kingsempires:
that means he is a spy in your organization

Looool

Emusan:


You're taking that one serious.

Remember in one thread he told you boldly that "Michael is the ONLY archangel"

When I saw that thread, I present the book of Daniel 10:13 to him which says "But for twenty-one days the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia blocked my way. Then Michael, one of the archangels, came to help me, and I left him there with the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia."

You know the excuse he gave?

He said, that was the preconceived whatever of the translator....

I then ask him, what is the Hebrew meaning of the word used in Daniel CHIEF PRINCES? As I'm typing now, he has not replied.

Archangel comprises two words

Arch / angel
Arch itself means CHIEF

Their own NWT says....

But the prince of the royal realm of Persia stood in opposition to me for days. But then Miʹcha·el,*one of the foremost princes,* came to help me; and I remained there beside the kings of Persia.

The * in front of the princes they wrote.....

Or “a prince of the first rank."

Is that not saying there are prince out of many princes that are of the first rank.

MaxInDHouse:


There are many angels who has authority in heaven only one controls all of them that is Michael the archangel.

Jehovah don't control angels

Kingsempires:
did you not hear him say that he was a JW before?

He must lie to save his face and the face of his religious organization

Kingsempires:
so what was roman 13 saying ?

It is saying governmental powers are Satan's ministers

Kingsempires:
but how will a country without a leader kope

You dey buy into that lies and manipulations.

Do Jehovah’s witnesses not have their own leadership. Men like you and I leading and directing all the lies and manipulations packed into the brains of their members?


Let me illustrate and explain this thing in simple clear terms. The religious organization started in a way that all were Jehovah’s witnesses. After some years some were not comfortable with the leadership and decides to leave. When they left the leadership called them apostates and all sorts of derogatory remarks. Over the years people are coming in and leaving. Those leaving are equally building their coalition and front to express their grievances about the misdeed of the leadership. In no time what do you think will keep happening between those leaving and those still within......


A. Peace

B. War

He wants to sterilise your brains with ideals that don't exist in the realms of REALITY

That's why should all be Jehovah’s witnesses in the world today, war will be widespread because Jehovah’s witnesses too keep making enemies out of others. That's reality in place.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus has already answered liars like you who are deceiving yourselves and at the same time being deceived {2Timothy 3:13} this is what Christ Jesus said:



So continue lying to your own soul, i have told all of you the bitter truth, OLAADEGBU doesn't view you people as Christians unless you are members of Kumuyi Deeperlife Church so his rejoicing over converts in far away lands makes no sense since the name of the church they joined remain anonymous!

We don't know why you enter the thread of OLAADEGBU who don't know Jehovah’s witnesses as Christians and created a thread about Christian that OLAADEGBU and MaxInDHouse don't recognise as Christians.


The joke, lies and manipulations packed into your brains is on you really. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣


cc: Emusan


Now you have to advocate on behalf of not only OLAADEGBU, Deeperlife and Jehovah's Witnesses

MaxInDHouse:

Good morning!
Well that's the greatest secret only Jehovah's Witnesses organization knew which all others failed to see.
When Jesus said his disciples should go and preach about God's Kingdom {Matthew 10:7} he was actually condemning politics because Satan is the god all politicians worship so no matter how peaceful anyone or any group could be once they are involved in politics they will forget about God and peace and before they realize it bloodshed is everywhere yet the problem that led to the bloodshed will continue to be there.

https://www.nairaland.com/8171540/jesus-ordered-jws-drop-weapons#131255437

Jews in the first century aren't devilish to the point of hating a prophet who is capable of performing any miracle that could bring laughter and joy to people's hearts it's politics that blurred their senses to hate Jesus with passion. John 11:48, 53
So Christianity is not about religion of singing and dancing in the name of Jesus or performing miracles in Jesus name NO! Rather it's about how a heavenly government will help humans to solve all our problems {Matthew 6:10} all the religions claiming Christians today are false because they failed to understand this fact and that is why they can't fulfill one thing Jesus said will serve as proof of his real disciples {John 13:34-35} no wonder people throughout the world always say Jehovah's Witnesses love their members!

You don't want us to highlight the notorious acts still found in the communities of Jehovah's Witnesses


1. Domestic violence

Petalss:


I have followed you enough to know what that thing would be. POLITICS

I know members of that religious organization kills one another, fights one another despite telling us they don't join politics.

Open your eyes well. People are divided far beyond politics.

MaxInDHouse:


Well i once see things the way you view it now back then but that was when i still practice Islam, today i know better.

There is one thing that will make people fight and kill one another whether they embrace the same religion or not.

If you want to know tomorrow is another day.

Set the ball of lies and manipulations packed into your brains rolling

Petalss:


If we could all respect one another, regardless of faith or denomination, the world would undoubtedly be a better place. Mutual respect fosters understanding, reduces conflict, and promotes harmony among diverse communities.

When we embrace the differences in our beliefs with an open [b]mind and a compassionate heart, we lay the foundation for a more peaceful and unified world[/b].

Peaceful and unified world is by being a member of a religious organization or denomination. Check well inside your religious books you go see am

U never see anything. The thread was about Jehovah's Witnesses denominations mtscheww

MaxInDHouse:


My friend it's a bitter pill and i'm very very sure that you can't swallow it at least for now {John 16:12-13} so continue savoring the little you've taken today, tomorrow is another day to learn may God keep you safely throughout the dangers of the night.
May the undeserved kindness of our Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the sharing in the holy spirit be with you till tomorrow in Jesus name.

Amen!

Kingsempires now you should sit at his feet and learn like a small baby. You know he always says all of us that don't dance to his tunes of. Lies and manipulations are arrogant and not humble

Petalss:

Do you permit me to say the religion of Peace?

He gave you permission to join the discussion

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is a sign of honesty and sincerity we don't have to always agree but that doesn't mean we should support falsehood our of spite, that is what i will never ever do!

Falsehood is telling us Jesus bought that your religious organization from Pastor Russell and up till today you tell us that is the only religious organization doing God's will earthwide.


When you see falsehood you can't identify. Continue to wallow in your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains.

Falsehood is telling us that those who bear the name Christian don't belong to Jesus Christ in fact they must think twice about it.

Wallow in your delusions

Kingsempires:
which religion are yourself

Possibly AntiChristian

MaxInDHouse:


I know this is what you wish but i'm sorry it is a lie!

All these churches have DIFFERENT Gods so if you want to learn don't just close your eyes and start dreaming make sure of all things! 1Thessalonians 5:21

And Jehovah’s witnesses have different God and Lord from all these churches too.

You begin to wonder where is the difference. Madness and insanities peddling


Does God belong to Jews alone? Does he not belong to Gentiles, too? Yes, also to Gentiles


Let's rephrase...


Does God belong to Jehovah’s witnesses alone? Does he not belong to other Christian denominations, too? Yes, also to other Christian denominations



Jehovah na monopoly God of Jehovah's Witnesses housed in USA. Continue

Kingsempires:
just follow enjoy

Catholic, MFM, JW, redeem, winner, deeper life, Anglican, Christ embassy , lord chosen e. t. c

Any one of them dey accept all are Christianity so may God strengthen them

His lies and manipulations filled brains cannot accept that. The constantly hammers it into their brains that all these churches are false Christians. It does matter what they believe. As long as they are not Jehovah’s witnesses they are false Christians. It is as simple as that.

Even when they know Jehovah’s witnesses have false beliefs about the scripture they don't care. You are not Jehovah’s witnesses, you are not doing God's will and by extension you are not a Christian.

That's the same person that said anyone who is called a Christian who bear the name Christian don't belong to Jesus Christ.