MaxInDHouse:


Good!
If you're of the opinion that truth isn't relative then which of the over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're doing what one man taught his disciples is the truth?

You are back to starting point again. Merry go round na your mode of operation. Read the bold again then go back to my previous post to see my response.

The issue is not about the truth being relative or not. What did the Bible you carry from house to house tell you about the truth? Is the Bible running away from you now or you are the one running away from Bible?

Emusan:


To provide just a single scholar who supported 607BC as the date of Jerusalem destruction.

He began to spew rubbish to deviate from the main topic.

he will soon get to the stage where he will ask us to go and create our own thread about it just to get us out of this thread. They don't others to accept secular history and that same secular history is what he is using as evidence that Jesus began ruling in 1914. Loooool!

Emusan:


And the funny thing is he didn't even know watchtower position on something like DATING!

Very ignoramus person that always pride in his ignorance.

Pride in peddling lies and manipulations with no questions asked.

MaxInDHouse:

Do you agree with all posters on Nairaland apart from Jehovah's Witnesses?

All posters are not the one who created nairaland forum.

No correlation between my previous response and this question

I agree with all posters or not is not the criteria to join nairaland forum or create a thread on this forum.

You are trying so hard to get me off your thread

should go through your profile now 90% of your posts are against Jehovah's Witnesses

I wonder what is the essence of the above and the question paapaa

Emusan:


You're too dull!

I said watchtower agreed with THEM!

what will watchtower agreed with if not their DATE?

In fact, watchtower was even mocking the Christians who disagree with the age of the earth as Billion years.

See how you just exposed your lying organization.

Which means the Christians who are defending Bible and God that earth is Young and not BILLION YEARS are correct.

You'll know the truth and the truth will continue to make your BP rise the more!

He simply don't know how this thread really expose how he is only interested in defending lies and manipulations

MaxInDHouse:


Some said truth is relative nah!

So you can determine your own truth it's not by force o!

What did the Bible you carry say about the truth? What some said is not the main point?

MaxInDHouse said Jesus began ruling in 1914. This is not a truth that is found the Bible. Do you agree?

What some say about it is not the issue here

So you can determine your own truth it's not by force o!

TRINITY is the the truth of other Christian denominations. I know you agree it's not by force to accept it ooo. I will remind you

Emusan:
This thing is really hitting you hard that you have to mentioned my moniker twice!

You already quoted my post which means you're referencing me, so why must you be spamming my mention within the same post again?



YES!



YES!



YES!



YES!



YES! 70 YEARS IN CAPTIVITY



I've answered!

So who did I shame, Jws or God?

Now, your turn to answer my question.

Do you agree with the archeological evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC?

They want to put the blame of their lies and manipulations on Jehovah’s head

How will some reason up to the extent of saying. He wants to shame God

Emusan:


That's not the point!

The same historians you don't want to take serious and gaslight into thinking they didn't say anything about Jesus are the ones you rely on for the date 537BC you started counting your 70 years from.

So, if you can't provide just one scholar who supported your 1914 date, then you shouldn't use the same historians date of 537BC since they are Jesus enemies

Hypocrite!

The guy don't know simply he has rendered the essence of this thread useless

The same historians you don't want to take serious and gaslight into thinking they didn't say anything about Jesus are the ones you rely on for the date 537BC you started counting your 70 years from.

MaxInDHouse don't understand the above

So, if you can't provide just one scholar who supported your 1914 date, then you shouldn't use the same historians date of 537BC since they are Jesus enemies

1914 don't have foundation in the Bible how they want to discover non existent thing in the first place

MaxInDHouse:


They're arguing in support of archeologists and historians at the detriment of God's word no wonder Jesus said about God's people:

"Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth." John 17:17

Praise JEHOVAH!
God's people are SANCTIFIED but means of the TRUTH found in God's word not historical or archeological evidences from the world!

Looool! Go school, No. Technical education it is

They're arguing in support of archeologists and historians at the detriment of God's word no wonder Jesus said about God's people

607BCE and 537 BCE don't exist in the first place in the Bible . Your brains didn't tell you that, you are equally supporting the historians and archaeologist to detriment of the Bible by saying Jerusalem was destroyed and the Israelites returned based on a date given by historians and secular history . You extend the support in using it to perform mental gymnastics that Jesus returned in 1914

Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth." John 17:17

So Jehovah's Witnesses is not the truth

Praise JEHOVAH!
God's people are SANCTIFIED but means of the TRUTH found in God's word not historical or archeological evidences from the world!

What a load of delusion within the midst of a religious organization whose foundation was based on calculations based on secular history and works of archaeologist

Emusan:


Speaking from ignoramus angle as usual just to divert from the main point!

How many scholar agree with 607BC.

For your diversion, watchtower actually go with the same historians, archeologists and scientists that earth is actually Billion of years old.

It was even some Christians who actually trying to use Bible to justify the age of earth within the Biblical context.




But watchtower agreed with them!

Your lying mouth has been exposed once again

@achorladey @Courz



But you stick to the same calculation.

Where did you get your 537BC that you added 70 years to to arrived at your 1914?

Hypocrite!

The hypocrite don't know the meaning of what he is typing sef

how do you want God's people to place what these people say above God's word?

MaxInDHouse your placing what historians say above God's words start from telling us that 607 marks the destruction of Jerusalem and from there to 537 to 1914. You hold his up and above the fact that Bible never said Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 and Jesus returned in 1914.

MaxInDHouse:


Preachers in buses and public squares are the owners of the buses or places they stand to preach shey?
No nah!
So if they're preaching what they believe and you don't go about countering what they preach what makes you feel Nairaland is not an exception?
Simply put you have no messages so you're on the hunt for anyone whose message is disturbing your conscience because there are thousands of people with different messages on this forum but only Jehovah's Witnesses are your problem.
If anyone should go through your profile now 90% of your posts are against Jehovah's Witnesses yet there are thousands of people whose beliefs contradicts one another.
WHY?

Nairaland is a public forum. It is called NAIRALAND FORUM.

.

All the questions you asked, I responded with answers that carry far reaching messages that you ran away from .


Just don't make your temperature starts to boil over to your usual default

MaxInDHouse:


It's either you agree with people's messages or you waka pass, do you stand up in public buses to argue with religionists spreading what they believe?
If you don't then it's wrong telling someone who brought a message you have a message when actually you have never arranged to spread your own message other than arguing with those who brought their own messages!

The bold is because nairaland is the property of MaxInDHouse and Jehovah's organization


Communication 101 in the screenshot. Are you speaking into the air?

MaxInDHouse:

People who truly have a message CREATES THREAD for everyone to know what they have in mind going to different threads and arguing with people who brought their own message is enough to show that you have nothing to share!

There is a share button below each of you post here. You do click it as well to share your message


When you were busy asking questions and I gave you fitting response you don't remember it was about argument

My post is giving you a lot to worry about.

Aemmyjah:
Answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Jehovah accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?

2. Was Jehovah accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?

3. Was Jehovah accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle

4. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem

5. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?


Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship

Jehovah didn't give you dates. Jehovah didn't write in the Bible that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BCE.


The 70 years was nowhere recorded in the Bible to start from 607 and end 537 BCE.

That was how you were boasting and bragging about calculation of date of birth and anniversaries

Jehovah's Witnesses is different from Jehovah. Exposing your lies and the lies of your religious organization has nothing to do with shaming Jehovah.

Aemmyjah:



Does Archaeology corroborate what Bible says

A. Always
B. Often
C. Seldom
D. Never

If a believer sees something from the Bible that is not supported by archaeology, which should be go for? Archaeology or Bible

Does Archaeology tell us that Israel spend 70 years in Egypt as Jehovah says? No. Fake churchian like you will stand with archaeology

Does Archaeology confirm or give any existence of Joseph in Egypt? No

Does Archaeology give any evidence of the Exodus? No

Does Archaeology give proof of the tower of Babel? No

The only archaeological proof of David is just a stone that has his name on it and archaeologists dispute about it that it is a significant proof


Mind you, the watchtower publication which has 2 main magazines - watchtower and awake is the most distributed and translated magazine. Our website is the most visited religious website and the most translated website - Google, Facebook and YouTube does not even come any close. Our books are not for profit like your own church people do. Who has not heard about watchtower magazines before or the Awake or Bible Teach book or Enjoy Life book or Book of Bible stories which all are from our publications and I have not mentioned Caleb n Sophia videos. Mention the websites of your own church or what they are producing.


Now let's go back to 537 BCE, it was well established that the Babylonian empire came to an end in October 539BCE following the conquest by Cyrus as prophesied since the time of Isaiah over 100 years earlier. And in 537 BCE, the Jews were freed. The Bible never mentions specific dates of any events but chronology and reliable secular history can help one to find the dates

Was Jehovah accurate about who will destroy Babylon, how and the name of the person to free the Jews? Yes

What Jehovah said about the time the Jews will spend as captives (70 years), should we say his prophecy failed cos many historians conclude otherwise or, that Jehovah is always right and that 70 years will lead us to 607 BCE?

Note that even the years they spend in captivity, some historians say 48 years, some 50, some 56, some 60, etc. Even the dates of birth of sequence of rulership of the kings of Babylon do not tally according to historians and some kings are left out of the picture


So rest
You know little about the Bible
You should hide your face when JWs are speaking about Bible

We have even published an article about it. Why not check it yourself?

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20111001/When-Was-Ancient-Jerusalem-Destroyed-Part-One/


Why am I, Emmanuel choosing 607BCE as the year Jerusalem was destroyed? Is it cos of the Watchtower society says so? No
It is because, I am personally convinced that God's word is true and no element of lies or inaccuracy is on it as I've examined unlike human literature or history. So if the Jews were released on 537 BCE, then counting back the years that Jehovah said they will spend which is 70 years leads me to 607BCE. To hell with whatever secular history will say whether they confirm it or not ..


Emusan, answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Jehovah accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?

2. Was Jehovah accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?

3. Was Jehovah accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle

4. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem

5. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?


Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship

Just show 537 BCE from your Bible another long write up follows

Why am I, Emmanuel choosing 607BCE as the year Jerusalem was destroyed? Is it cos of the Watchtower society says so? No

Good

It is because, I am personally convinced that God's word is true and no element of lies or inaccuracy is on it as I've examined unlike human literature or history.

Human literature is what you relied upon to say the Israelites returned back in 537 and you already admit they are inaccurate

So if the Jews were released on 537 BCE, then counting back the years that Jehovah said they will spend which is 70 years leads me to 607BCE. To hell with whatever secular history will say whether they confirm it or not ..

What your brains didn't sleep well upon is. It is the same secular history that tells you 537 you are using to count 70 years backwards. It is not your Bible that says 537B.C.E. . Reason well. The foundation of your defense is faulty


Building 1914 on the inaccuracies and lies of secular works of 607,537 BCE is equal telling us you are lying and you can't see it despite it being in front of your eyes like the nose

MaxInDHouse:


What is not destroyed in your own perception?

God, Moses, Jesus and Bible which of these do you have something tangible to talk about other than everything is false?

I went through the profile of Edybleketara and i've found something that shows he doesn't care whatever the Bible says so there's no need arguing with him!

Rathers than focus on the message attack the person

oteneaaron:


Loooool

E pain the guy!

Since you're the owner of Nairaland why don't you just delete my comment?

There is no need for the name calling - you know that I'm not an atheist.

😁😁😁

You're entire faith is based on 1914 and this has been proven to be a big fat LIE.

Abi oooooo. Without 1914 God's organization becomes non existent

Edybleketara:
Just say you can't answer his question, otherwise you'd have focused on the message rather than the messenger.

Those questions are beyond him and he is using every means to run away from them including asking us to abandon his thread for him

MaxInDHouse:


Of course you do, what you're doing right now isn't spreading any message but arguing over the message of another person.
People who have something to share don't go about dragging what others are sharing.
Once i notice something wrong in a message the first thing Jesus commanded me to do is walk up to the person and tactfully express my opinion but if the person insists it simply means we are not on the same page so i must take my leave.
WHY?
Because i have my own message sticking to one person arguing over his message indicates that you have nothing to share!

Of course you do

That's what happens when am individual don't know what nairaland forum is all about


In the cause of any conversation or discussion messages are being passed across. Communication 101

I repeat I don't have to create a thread on this forum to pass my message across

MaxInDHouse:


Your own case is SETTLED!

You're an atheist who doesn't believe anything found written in the Bible so your opinion here is worthless.

However thanks for commenting!

Looool

MaxInDHouse:


Why not speak for yourself nah?

You came to argue then you wanted to speak in behalf of everyone out there as if you have concluded for them and worse still you want to speak for me again.

Haba na so you be?

Looool!

Why not speak for yourself nah?

I am speaking for MaxInDHouse. Achorladey = MaxInDHouse

You came to argue then you wanted to speak in behalf of everyone out there as if you have concluded for them and worse still you want to speak for me again.

I don add am to my note that I came to argue. I know you are not speaking for me but only drawing conclusions about what I have come to do here

Achorladey is not = behalf of everyone and I am not concluding anything on behalf of anyone. Deflection and diversion na part of your strategy. When I said.....

Deep down you know 1914 has nothing to do with the Bible

It is my own conclusion drawn from the discussion with you about 1914 not speaking for you

johnw47:


Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;


lost false jw mad max

you false jw's boast of being obedient to men
if Christians were to boast it would be of our obedience to GOD

1Cor 3:21 let no one boast in men.

1Co 1:31  Therefore, as it is written: "Let the one who boasts boast in the Lord."


GOD is Wonderfully Awesome < now that's a boast Christians would whole heartily agree with,
boasting of GOD, not of men

you false jw's boast of your fellow false jw's also, even posting pics./idols of your idols

Looool

MaxInDHouse:


You only came to argue if you have any message all you need is to start your own thread to spread your message!

You only came to argue

I don add am to my notification

if you have any message all you need is to start your own thread to spread your message

.

I don't need to create a thread to pass or spread my message.

Aemmyjah:



Everything is based on prophecy in the Bible
Like a jigsaw puzzle, we bring them together and get a clear picture

It is based on the tree image of Nebuchadnezzar's dream which has 2 fulfillment, the initial relating to Nebuchadnezzar and the final relating to God's representative rulership
Ezekiel also adds to it when he says that the turban will be removed from the king until it comes to it rightful owner
Jesus himself also adds to the prophecies when he talked about when the appointed time of the nations will be fulfilled

Through Daniel prophecy, it has pointed us to the time when the Messiah will appear - 29CE (now secular history says 26CE but jesus ministry was 3 and hakf years ans Bible chronology and history poimta to 33CE as his year of death so 29CE is more accurate). I can also do the same calculation of the appearing of the Messiah using same Bible methods which led us to 1914 as Jesus rule. So Bible has helped us to see when the Messiah appear which is 29CE and it has also helped us get to see when Jesus began to rule. Let's us not forget that 1914 is a significant year in world history and what Jesus prophecied about the time of the end began then as well as John Revelation vision in Revelation 6


The Jews were released from Babylonian captivity as Jehovah promised
As Jehovah also foretold, they would spend 70 years as captives in the land so 537- 70 years leads to 607 BCE. A Bible believer will accept that or resort to history. If I want to rely on history, I can as well believe that Moses, Pharaoh, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joshua conquest of Canaan, Davod and Goliath, Tower of Babel, Joseph of Egypt never existed and the Exodus never happened or the plagues cos the ancient Egyptians who were meticulous in their history has not shown any such proof.
So when you think u can shame us by choosing side of history when we support God's word, remember that history itself can make u think that many people and events and places in the Bible never happened

So rest

This one no even understand the question they ask am. Just as you were busy manipulating how to calculate anniversaries and date of birth

If I want to rely on history, I can as well believe that Moses, Pharaoh, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joshua conquest of Canaan, Davod and Goliath, Tower of Babel, Joseph of Egypt never existed and the Exodus never happened or the plagues cos the ancient Egyptians who were meticulous in their history has not shown any such proof.

Weak attempt to seek sympathy that those dates in the first instance are not supported from the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:


You don't have to give yourself HBP on this matter it's either you accept or reject it.
Thanks for commenting!

😂🤣😂🤣

You don't have to add your HBP peddlings about it. He didn't say anything concerning such. Just face the discussion. I know the stage where your own words rendered the whole topic useless and confirms na la cram la pour. Deep down you know 1914 has nothing to do with the Bible

Emusan:


You didn't answer my question!



From where did you start counting your 70 years?



Until you answer the very basic question.

Where did you start counting your 70years?

What did you add to arrive at 1914?

Where did Bible provide those information?

Sure, let God be True and let men be lie.

Your gods in Warwick are also MEN, don't forget.

The question heavy

Aemmyjah:



How many years did Jehovah say that his people will be in captivity? 70 years or 50 years?

Which one should a Christian accept? That of 70 years leading to 607BCE (which is a conclusion based on the Bible prophecy) or from secular historians whose data is not always accurate?

Even if all the historians points to a date that contradict what Bible points me to, I will still choose the Bible. Let God be true and men be found a liar

When you guys are told to reason and reason well the arrogance of copied works of those that fits cooked doctrines of your religious leaders is what you will call Bible research.

Even if all the historians points to a date that contradict what Bible points me to, I will still choose the Bible. Let God be true and men be found a liar.

The limitations of this statement shows you don't understand the length and breadth of CHRONOLOGY as it applies to the Bible. The Bible has never point to dates dates dates as in

God call Abraham 1 Chislev 4090 B. C. E

Or

Solomon built the temple 1st Adar, 2046 B. C. E

and Nebuchadnezzar destroyed that same temple.... 3rd Abib 607 B. C. E and then Israelites returned back from exile in year 4th Nisan 537 B.C. E.

Read your Bible from now to eternity you will never see such dates in the Bible. You stating..

points to a date that contradict what Bible points me to

Is fallacy, the bible didn't point you to any date as in zero dates, non existent dates. The bible didn't point you to date of destruction of the temple [/b]or [b]start of exile and date of return from exile.

All these dates of 607 BCE, 537 BCE are from secular sources it has nothing to do with the Bible.

That's why some call those calculations used to arrive at 1914 as mental gymnastics

Emusan:


You did that yet after what you posted as OP you yourself didn't convince about what you wrote that you have to rush to YouTube for more facts to support your OP which later discovered to be an Apostate video in which the content of the video never even supported your claim in the first.

If what you posted couldn't convince your own self, how do you want it to convince others?

He just wants free access to post lies and manipulations .

The same person later said dates don't matter and you created a thread based on date that Jesus became king on that day

More evidence that he will choose and pick his own lies and manipulations over that of Jesus Christ

MightySparrow:



Do I look like the one you can lecture? I don't think so. I lay on the table facts of history.

I am familiar with the topic. So you have not definitely answered the question.

The question still remains, from where did you get 607 BCE when all credible historical evidences point to 587 BCE? What is your source?

The same person that has been contradicting the evidence his own religious organization presented

MaxInDHouse:

The word JEWS doesn't just mean tribesmen among the Jews rather it means accepting all the ties binding on those having the same faith as they do.
So to the first century Jewish community Jesus and his disciples are better killed than bearing that name "JEWS" with them.
That's why whatever comes from Jesus or his friends is trashed till today!

MaxInDHouse is more of Jew than Jew. Do you agree?

The word JEWS doesn't just mean tribesmen among the Jews rather it means accepting all the ties binding on those having the same faith as they do

You can choose to redefine Jews = Yoruba. It is part of your lies and manipulations. It does not change the below....

No, he certainly was not. All those whom Jesus first called as his disciples were Jews. Then, at Pentecost 33 C.E., Jews and Jewish proselytes were the first ones to be anointed with holy spirit and thus come in line to reign with Christ in heaven.

Go and redefine your definition of Jews to your GODS of men housed in USA. It still does not change the fact that the Jews accepted Jesus Christ first

MaxInDHouse:

Sorry some grievous sins causes spiritual death to the sinner.
There is spiritual sickness and spiritual death.

Spiritual sickness is backsliding while spiritual death is deliberate act against what our God says. Someone who started doubting the word of our God is spiritually sick even though such doubts is sin but not as a deliberate act, so while the former can pray alone for forgiveness the later needs the intervention of the elders {James 5:14-15} do you think someone who deliberately pick up a weapon to kill his fellow believers in the Kingdom Hall can still be regarded as one with God's people?

So both are not on the same page!

That in bold is enough for me to say you can keep your lies and manipulations going regarding trying to make David an edomite for Killing Uriah. It is not a grievous sin

David committed a "grievous sin" and because of that changed from Israelites to Edomites


Is my message clear?

Sorry

Sorry for yourself for advancing more lies and manipulations.

MaxInDHouse:


I am still answering your questions just as you ask only that the responses doesn't sit well with your thoughts.
Once anyone turns against the orders from our God such a person is no longer on the same page with the rest of God's people only a complete turnaround from the wrong course can save such a soul!

You are not answering my questions. Your lies and manipulations about that are still here on this thread.

I am still answering your questions just as you ask only that the responses doesn't sit well with your thoughts.

Your response are not answering my question. Your responses have been used repeatedly to advance lies and manipulations which I keep exposing repeatedly as you are using to side step my questions.

Once anyone turns against the orders from our God such a person is no longer on the same page with the rest of God's people only a complete turnaround from the wrong course can save such a soul!

David remain an isrealites despite the murder. Your thousands of lies cannot refute that. Despite praying to your Jehovah everyday to forgive you of your sins does not stop you being called one Jehovah’s witness