patches689:


No need for such an aggressive post.

Please, this is not the other thread, controll yourself.

Direct your comment to MikeZAR, he is the one making mischief about fitting missiles on the P18N, everybody was discussing the matter peacefully to share knowledge until MikeZAR brought in the manners of the other thread....and you too copued his statement few minutes after. Go backwards and read his provocative posts and yours that copied his words. I could retaliate by hitting back on the Rooivalk sales he is trying to promote here using Congo DRC, but I decided not to do so because I don't think we need many imbéciles here, one is enough.

MikeCZAR:
Is the ship "Fitted for but not with"? The answer is no.

Is that the topic or subject of the discussion? The answer is NO, everydody already knows the status of the ship and we are all talking about if there is need to fit with in future. Stop trying to bring wounds from the other thread to this place and use your brain to understand the subject of other people's discussion before you jump in, use your brain even if its not that efficiently functional, just try use it, half bread is better than none my dear friend.

africaken:
kenya special forces

Who is the white guy? PMC ?

patches689:


That red life craft triggers my "military aesthetics autism".

Would it kill ya to put some freaking paint on the thing!!

Orange or red is marine colour code for search and rescue, the boats are deliberately bright coloured to make them clearly visible in peacetime maritme role, the people in distress at sea need to clearly see and signal by waving hand and screaming voice to attract attention of incoming rescue boat that is searching for the victims including near drowning men struggling to float in stormy sea.

Most likely Nigeria wont have conventional war at sea in the next 10 years or more, that threat is zero for now, but only God can predict tomorrow 100% correctly.

NNS Unity, second P18N

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patches689:


So this is it then?

We have destroyed you so badly that all that is left is for you to sh1tpost meaningless rubbish?

Fact of the matter is that you got impressed by nonsense kung-fu moves like a child

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Ask SANDF soldier or special force to raise a leg high in the air like a kick and see how testicles will break up an leak like damaged eggs. Your country has an HIV damaged army of weaklings, Ugandan soldiers will bëat the hëll out of South Afrcan soldiers. FACT !!

Msauza:


So, don't you know that skyshield and Air defence guns can shoot missiles down.

You DONT have them today

Msauza:


Then you have never done it, simple....

Then you have seen it done before, simple....

Msauza:


The only thing about Igirigi is that it has a flat bottom instead of a V-hull. Such armoured vehicles are dangerous to use in this time and era and are regarded as obsolete.

Igirigi has V hull shape. Degree of slant varies from vehicle to vehicle. Igirigi is modern.

Msauza:



If you can't do it then you haven't done it. There is nothing that boost your moral than proving people wrong. Of course that will make you feel honoured.

There is no honour in being ordered around to repeat same old posts to same old useless people.

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patches689:


Only 8% of Soldiers have HIV/AIDS

Its really quote sad that at this point you have to rely on fraud in order to have something to criticise use about




And their only Air-to-Air missiles are R-73/AA-11 with 20km range.




Do you really think they will hit gripen in the air? Are you mentally deficient?

Our radars will be protected by Skysheild CRAM - designed to shoot missiles out of the air




Which will get wrecked by Starstreak (which dont use Radar)

Cubans and Angolans could not do that to us in Angola... why could Uganda suddenly do it? And we didnt have CRAM or Starstreak back then!

Uganda would stand no chance in this hypothetical war

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Total rubbish post, SANDF has NO anti-missile capability today and Starstreak is a weak MANPAD with only maximum 1km ceiling, Ugandan air force will fly at 2km to 5km and rocket bläst SANDF into tiny roasted pieces.

patches689:


The only nonsense here is the man who judges military equipment by its looks

That surely refers to South Africans who judge Igirigi APC by its looks

Msauza:


OK, just revisit your post, copy and paste it again. That will be simple as ABC.

Why should I repeat it for the same people a dozen times? You go look for it underbmy posts as agaugust or Augustine Again. I wont let Southies waste my time.

patches689:


1. "hand to hand SF ops"... what are you? A 13 year old boy? does that sh1t actually impress you?

The truth is that if any South African soldier or special forces tries to raise up his leg and kick the head of an opponenet like the Ugandan soldiers do, the SANDF soldiers HIV weakened testicles will fall out of their natural containers and break like eggs.

patches689:


8% infection rate, all on ARV's and all barred from combat roles.

LOL....30 battalions of SANDF fighters already written off before any war even begins. Half dead army !!!

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patches689:


No, dont try to validate it, you are behaving like a child... judging equipment on how it looks

We laugh at your equipment because of its poor specs!

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Nonsense post

patches689:


Uganda has a military budget of only $250M and only 45 000 soldiers.

South Africa has a military budget of $4 billion and has over 70 000 soldiers.

If we wanted to or needed to we could do, and do it better than they could dream of.

Your huge defence budget is used to pay for soldiers' expensive HIV treatment drugs.

SANDF soldiers list includes 30 battalions of useless troops already HIV ruined.

Uganda's budget for buying 6 Su-30 Flanker jets with anti-radiation missiles and 1,000 Kornet ATGM, etc is about $750 million.

Ugandan jets will use long range ARM/ASM missiles to knock out all SANDF radars including your Gripen if they dare to fly, afer that they will wrëck all SANDF artillery and tanks/IFVs using L-39 jets and Mi-35 helicopters, then they will Rāpe the entire South Africa from the air and on ground.....till mama Soweto bleeds to death
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patches689:


No, you have never listed them

That is why we keep asking

Now break it down for us... what are these 400 vessels composed of?

I have listed them repeatedly/I am asked to repeat it every 6 months or so by the same people who read the list, that is why I refuse to do it again, I am not a retaaaaard with backwards moving brain like South Africans

CAN YOU SWEAR THAT YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN ANSWERED WITH THAT LIST ON THIS THREAD IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS?

SWEAR.

MikeCZAR:
I always advise you to keep quiet if you don't know somethings.

Is the vessel "fitted for but not with" ?

Go watch 10th to 20th seconds time point on the Chinese promo video of P18N and see the oil spill control tanks, position called amidships if you dont know marine tech. Thats where the Type 056 AShM are installed. P18N now named NNS Centenary is modular and convertible from gun OPV to missile light frigate/corvette. Ask questions when you dont know things, dont be ashamed to ask, I won't laugh at you for asking to be taught what is beyond your level of knowledge, I am your friend.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuUeO0NhMhg

jln115:

Judging by the photo's ive seen of Nigerias P18Ns i can't see were they can be fitted with SAMs, but i do agree they can carry up to 4 ASMs.

Modular construction. Anti-Ship Missile position is on the sides by modular removal of the two oil spill control tanks located on amidships position on each hull side.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCDG7tm2eLQ

Henry240:
Naval Engineering Services limited, the engineering branch of Nigerian Naval holdings has completed a complete re-fit of NNS Brass and NNS Yola at the Naval Dockyard in Port-Harcourt.


-Engines

-Vessel systems

* everything changed, they are essentially new assets. Photo below shows the vessels during overhaul.

Your photo shows NNS Aradu anchored close to the dry dock and refitted ships. She is likely close to her turn for refit.

For NN 2016-2030, I would suggest.

1. Refitted, slightly modernized-upgraded, fully reloaded and armed as missile frigate NNS Aradu $80 million maximum cost for 15 years life span, or else brand new P18N missile armed light frigate $120 million for 30 year life span.

2. One second hand Type 039 Song Class submarine from China $120 million for 20 year life span.

Total cost $200 to $250 million for conventional warfare fleet 2016-2030. Economic reality.

The other acquisitions for the next 15 years will be OPV, MPV, IPV, logistics support/supply ships, auxillary ships, long range patrol/SAR/Interceptor and insertion helicopters AW 139 and long range cheap Niger Delta patrol Super Mushashak turboprop aircraft.

However, the navy has officially decided 2016 :

1. Potential NNS Aradu refit
2. Refit of about ten old vessels of approx 58m sizes.
2. Four brand new missile patrol boats, two units each of 24m and 35m guided missile armed fast attack crafts. Approx total cost $120 million. Paid for.
3. One brand new Landing Ship Tank, budgeted for.
4. One brand new Survey vessel, budgeted for. (Nigeria's 'EEZ' limit about to be expanded by UN, need to do new territory survey and draw new national hydrological map)
5. 100 IPVs. All paid for.
6. Wants eight long range patrol helicopters, funds not yet granted
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ballballo:
GH

Oil money speaking for Ghana

patches689:


Here we go again,

judging things by looks

Do you know how many times you dumbo Southies have said Nigerian defence products are ugly?

I am just giving you a taste of your own medicine and you are already vomiting like soemone sick with cholera and crying like a baby

patches689:


Because they do fancy kung-foo?

Your HIV sick and weak SANDF soldiers CANNOT carry their legs up to kick the head of an enemy in hand to hand SF ops.

patches689:


Because they do fancy kung-foo?

No, it's rather because they fight real war for many years against El-Shabbab, a feat that SANDF cannot do.

patches689:


Nope

You have never listed the 400 specific vessels.

Thats why I keep asking

I have listed them repeatedly, that is why I refuse to do it again, I am not a retaaaaard with backwards moving brain like South Africans.

Msauza:


You are backward in terms of information and you don't know how recently Pretoria was overwhelmed and inundated with visits and calls from interested countries wanting to buy Rooivalk. The development of Rooivalk II will begin soon

Show us one foreign customer has paid one dollar for the Rooivalk at your air show

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Beautiful Mi-35 Hind....

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The world's ugliest attack helicopter, NOBODY will buy this obsolete design for $40 million
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Thiza:
SANDF BEST MILITARY

Military of Uganda alone will wipe out SANDF in 30 days


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT35nt62IoA

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Patchesagain:


Namacurra is harbour patrol

T-craft is SF

Neither are long range patrol vessels

According to South African navy official website, T-Craft 22m is the navy's current IPV
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Patchesagain:


list these 400 vessels.

I have done that more than 10 times repeated on this forum.

I am sure the list is even copied and saved by you in a file on your computer.

You just like to display why all Southies have a faulty brain that works in reverse gear

FighterPilot:



Bhahahahahahaja… you are the biggest joke of the century.

Tell us why would your navy want to buy only 49 ships in ten years when they already have 500 ships?

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-4023/

Go and tell those tales to your ancestors.



May I remind you that your navy is still US Navy's charity case.

As a dullard, you do not know the difference between a ship and a boat
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