Bidam: The devil can transform himself as an angel of light,so also are peeps like you who claim they are christian,i don't need to tell you about demas,you know the story.

Paul himself said he was in danger of false brethren,so i don't understand what you're yapping about my statement here.If you feel uncomfortable with that phrase then too bad.

As for the fear of the devil,you don't know me and like Paul rightly told the corinthian folks about his experience,i don't like boasting about mine.But since the devil is using you to speak this defilement here on the internet,i will tell everyone the testimony i had to clear the air you defiled.Spiritual attacks must ofcos be met by spiritual resistance.

I was in kano when boko haram attacked the university killing some of my christian brethren.
Was i afraid when they attacked? No..i was ready to die anyway for the sake of the gospel because i came from a moslem background.

Am i better than my christain brothers who were killed by satan in kano? No..but some how it was a miracle i lived to share what i am telling you now.

My problem with greenhorns like you who are new in the faith is that you fail to realise that the devil can have permission to kill christians.Ever heard the word MATYR?

I am very much aware of the believers authorithy in Christ and i very much know my legal rights and boundaries,so stop assuming and jumping into foolish conclusions here.

During the time of antipas the faithful matyr.The empero nero ordered that christians be fed to lions as a sort of sport in their coliseum..So are telling us here that christ wasn't with those folks when they saw death staring at them in the face? My friend you better wake up to the reality that christianity is not for babies like you cos when the true test of faith comes folks like you will abadon the faith. I have seen folks like you who cram alot of scripture and say thrash in the comfort of their homes but when faced with a little challenge,they cower.

As for respect- you picked what you wanted my post to say without reading it in proper context. I said only SPIRITUAL FOOLS DISRESPECT THE DEVILS STRENGHT. if you are one then you should respect him cos he has a 3rd of rebellious angels at his beck and call.You can ask the son of sceva, what happened to them.

Now we wise men crush him in the power of the Lord laying aside our own power. If i will boast,i guess it's in the Lord.This is not pride.With all humility i know who i am and what God has done to me and through me in the lives of many.Shalom.

Candour:

My bro, its dangerous when you use your experience to establish a Christian doctrine. When I was in the demon killing by fire arena, without fail, I always had one bad dream or the other every single night. I mean every night. If i saw a cat, spider etc then, i always screamed 'die by fire'. I left that ministry in 2010 and I can confirm to you that I can't remember having such dreams again. The question now comes thus

Could it be that I was having dreams of demons regularly because they dominated my prayer points, praise and worship and my waking thoughts? You be the judge bro

You're right the devil is fake. John 8:44 calls him the father of lies while Eph 6:11 says he has wiles. He's just a trickster my bro. Let's stop glorifying him. Jesus died for you and rendered Satan powerless. He's powerless in my life anyway. Pls see him that way in your life.

God will keep on strengthening you my bro. The devil can do you no harm. He's powerless concerning you. You're seated far above principalities and powers because you're in Christ.

Paul admonished us to renew our minds. Pls set yourself to this task of mind renewal through the word and you'll see whatever darkness scamper. Your life is hid in Christ, and Christ in God so who is the bagger that can dare come close? Dem never born am

Bidam: Thanks, i guess i have problem communicating with peeps like ajayikayod here. My post never implied that i am afraid of the devil neither does it say Christians should respect the devil. Most Christians online who makes empty noise here aren't even genuine ones to start with. They habour different kinds of lust and are always having inordinate desires, but they are the ones to teach us online here. I LAFF IN TONGUES.

Even the adulterous babylonian prostitute will laff at these folks because she drank the blood of SAINTS that dumbfounded even Apostle John himself in revelations.

peterphd:

Tell me how life has said there is a god. Unless you produce evidence for God, atheists have the right to dismiss your claims.

david_hume:

Actually, it only took minutes because i had a good teacher...
And thanks to such geography classes, i was able to discover how ignorant christians are to believe this:

12 On the day theLordgave the Amoritesover to Israel, Joshua said to theLordin the presence of Israel:

“Sun, stand still over Gibeon,
and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.”

13 So the sun stood still,
and the moon stopped,
till the nation avenged itself on[b]its enemies,
as it is written in the Book of Jashar.
The sun stoppedin the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.14 There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when theLordlistened to a human being. Surely theLordwas fightingfor Israel!

david_hume:

When my geography teacher told us that the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around, i was filled with UNBELIEF!
Until he proved it using the change in seasons.

So u CAN read a book with disbelief at first and be convinced of its truth value after.

That's the difference between science and the fairytale u call the bible!!!

Divepen: where did devil come from?

macof: From the hearts of men

Divepen:

THAT MEANS THERE IS ON SATAN?

Gombs:

That means men created satan?

david_hume:

Why are y'all trying to foist the notion of an atheist prophet on us?
We have no dogma, no leaders, and no "holy" books.

The absurdity of religion is clear for anyone bold enough to question the status-quo!!!

Bidam: Yet he is causing sickness,wars and diseases. It is only in Christ we have liberty.

You ran away from the other thread without answerinng pertinent question.You have not told us whether you have cast out a single demon in your entire life.

peterphd: ^^
Please get off the internet. You are to stupid to understand science and life.why don't you believe the yoruba creation story but want us to believe the Jewish one brought to us by slave traders?

Bidam: The bible is also clear about the devils strength,i am not the one who said it.

Lucifer was someone who 2/3rd of the angelic host followed him in his rebellion.He should be respected.

Bidam: Godliness great is a mystery.

Iniquity is also a mystery.

From time immemorial foods have always been offered as sacrifices to idols even by ancient Babylonians,so it is an error to say this practices originate from Africa infact it is folly to assume such stance.

The bible may be silent on such issue because it is far better to talk about godliness than godlessness.

Because the bible is scanty on information about satanic domain doesn't mean they are not real.Demons can possess individuals and oppress Christians.

Overeating is sin and satan thrives on sin that is what we refer to as lust of the flesh. A Christianity can unknowingly open a door way to the enemy when he/she indulges in gluttony. A christian who over eats lack discipline.The dream might serve as a warning and a pointer that the enemy lies at the door.Now if a christian does not put a stop to that,he is inviting disaster.

So also is the issue of sexual immorality.I know of Christians who sees having sex in dreams as normal but later this tend to play out in the physical because they never dealt with the issue after they dreamt it by praying about it.The bible encourages us to watch and pray ALL manner of prayers in the Spirit without ceasing THAT WE DO NOT FALL INTO TEMPTATION.

Without a constant fellowship with the WORD and the Spirit, a christian is not immune to these controlling forces.

The bible calls them the spirit of the power of the air that is at work in the children of disobedience.

A lazy christian will always find himself falling into the same temptations again and again unless he aggressively address these issues with the help of the Holy Spirit and the WORD.

I am not saying all these to put a scare on any one neither am i saying it to glorify demons but it is good to put everything in proper perspective
so that we will not be ignorant concerning the devices satan uses.IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE.

There is actually no middle ground.It's either you are HOT or you are COLD.God HATES lukewarmness.

It is rather sad that the Christianity we have today is lukewarm in its approach to kingdom dynamics.It is even shocking to hear christian say demons don't exist and that they are figment of our imagination.

Only spiritual fools disrespect the devil's strength.Wise men crush him in the power of the Lord.

ooman:

Sorry this took a long time, but its better late than never, and besides, i have something to clear

Assuming I believe that there is an invisible Flying Pig holding the earth in place, and i offered no proof of my Flying Pig except for my faith, then you can as well claim my Flying Pig does not exist by reason of not believing in my Flying Pig, its as simple as that..
As Hitchens already said, that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence too...

There is no evidence for any god, but because gods exist in people's head, the best position of an atheist is to say Yahweh doesnt probably exist, just as we can say the Flying Pig does not probably exist, but cannot really prove both as non existent

Alfa Seltzer: everybody knows there is no such person as god.

plaetton:
Stop being silly.
Let me prophesy that your children, no matter how much you brainwash them now, will throw away al your religious bullshyt into the garbage bin as soon they free,and so will your grandchildren.
Bottom line?
Your religious bullshyt ends with you and your generation.

plaetton:
Two or more people who reject the idea of an omni omni skydaddy would naturally use the same lines of argument to refute all ridiculous notions of god.
I mean, in how different ways can a person say no to bullshyt?

ARareGem: It's mostly the aftermath. Also, I've heard testimonies of people confessing of how they were initiated after eating in dreams....

But it's true o, I don't actually recall chewing on the food or tasting it. I just wake up believing I ate.

In fact, there was a time I kept on dreaming such and I was tremendously shakened. Was busy binding and casting. One day as I woke up from the recurrent dream, I just hissed and went on with my normal activities. Didn't even pray. The dreams stopped.


Lesson learnt: The devil just loves to feed on your fears. Don't let him.

Gombs:

I know...but why do christians import it into their lives?
Dats my concern



Yeah, wishful thinking brings about a particular kind of dream...but why then attach it to demonism?



Are Christians supposed to be under such influence?



Nah! I'd dine in the dream...I've done that quite atimes.

rapture_ready: This belief is actually prevalent in Nigeria (or africa) where a lot of malevolent occultic practises exist. It is not strictly a "christian" belief.

Possibly, most times we dream of eating, it may just be our brain wishing we had steak for dinner

However, demonic attacks & spiritual poisoning do occur (if u no bliv me go try una village dibia ) and this is what drives the caution, which at times extends into paranoia.

Dreams sometimes have physical meanings and interpretations. So I say next time if you see food in your dream, TELL D MAGA MAKE HIM CARI D FOOD CUM UR HAUS 4 MORNING! Afterall, dream food no de sweet or giv any nutrients 4 bodi.

Logicboy03: We are in agreement, sire, albeit a partial agreement.

I have always maintained that animals dont believe in God because they lack the capacity to think about a God
Also, I have also maintained that many tribes had their own different gods with different properties.
Some tribes never even had a concept of God.


God, if he exists, is a selective mofo

Fxwarrior:

Like I said ignorance of the law is not an excuse.Does the belief that you just came out into this world just like that not sound ridiculous to you?
Atheism is borne out of man's rebellious nature.

Secularist: The burden of proof would always be on the religious.

macof:

A man saw a 6 yrs old girl?.just to be clear according to ur religion when does judgment happen?

Immediately after death or After Yeshua has returned

Logicboy03:


smh....

Secularist:

If i cant question it then its bullshiit! What then gives theists the right to question the truth? Theists refuse to wear a thinking cap when it comes to their gods and then become halfway intelligent when trying to discuss why being an atheist is stupid. If only they would use that same intelligence to question their indoctrination, if only.

god is not awesome, he is fucking serial killer! Except god is the name used for the madness that turns sane people to lunatics.

Secularist:

Cad tá á rá?

Jamey Maxwell: Hmmm.
I believe there is still hope.

Logicboy03:


like what?

What Dawkinsian ideas have I been parading here?

Enigma:

I've just noticed that I forgot to include tye link in my first post. Here it is: https://www.nairaland.com/765094/heard-there-different-kinds-atheism/2#9227593

I have also edited the first post.

Well, they mit be thinking it, i m not thinking it, i know it is. So if anyone think otherwise d person can give me a simple definition/meaning of ATHEISM.

Secularist: I believe the burden of proof does not lie with the sane of mind.

If a man enters a courtroom with bushy hair and torn trousers, why would i go on trying to prove to such a man that he may not be mentally stable?
The whole of life provides you with the madness that religion has allowed all over. The bible God is more like a petty king with a temper tantrum. I have no debate with a person who cannot see the madness of boko haram or the dark ages to understand that no disease has killed more people than religion has over the ages, or divided more people, or turn physiological sound persons into serial killers.

I have no discussion with mad people.

Logicboy03:





Way to miss the point......

Secularist: Hehehehe

Please O! I was very clear in my topic header, i dont want any christian or islamist person bringing anything to the table, this discussion is light years beyond you O.