1luvkipsus:

@Amakaone
Are you married

Why do you ask?

NINETOFIVE:


Unfortunately I could not find a correlation between what you've written and a propper taxation mechanism and ways to hold the government accountable, the actions of the so called fashola is pretty much eratic in nature, and gives away the fact that there is no proper data of the people in the so called market or the whole of Nigeria for that matter, people can not be dealt with as a block in this instance when they are almost from the same ethnic group, there has to be a sort of balance and fairness or we might be sending a wrong signal.

I appreciate that logic and basic deduction are not a skill that all people are endowed with.

Let me try and break it down for you.

I will explain based on the assumption that  the people in the market are self and employed actually[b] want to comply[/b] with the states tax legislation.

The state govt goes on an extensive exercise to tell people that people need to pay their taxes ( market traders included).

The same state govt spend a lot of money liaising with banks for collection, drawing up documents explaining the process etc, which info is made available at all tax offices in Lagos state.

The state government goes on to set up a website where all information relating to tax in Lagos state is published as well as all the necessary forms , info on processes etc is published.

The same state govt then gets into discussion with duly elected representatives of the traders making them aware that their members are not complying with state tax legislation.

This goes on for over a month ( no response from the [b]elected representatives [/b]of the traders).

While these negotiations are going on the state govt continues with its tax compliance mobilization campaign, and the elected representatives start collecting monies from their members but fail to make the necessary payments to the state.

On a certain date the state decides realises that these people are not willing to comply despite all these efforts that we have made.

A week or so later the state agencies move into the market and shut the market down.

Now can you please explain to me why the state should be held accountable and the taxpayers not?

What efforts have these taxpayers made to be compliant given all the avenues that the sate has made available to them?

I will be really interested in your response.

Could you please check this VIN for me?


ZFFYT53A140135538


Thanks in advance

Could you please check this VIN for me?


ZFFYT53A140135538


Thanks in advance

Mai Suya:


bullsh*t! the fact remain that without his EFFORT - however insignificant that my seem to you - the baby will not exist.

clearly you've never heard of sperm banks,

HR.hotness:

@ Amakaone

can u please send me an email, urs isnt on ur profile and theres sumthin i need to ask u, not food related

done

There is a difference between raw food and fresh food.
Fresh food by definition is food that is not preserved by canning or dehydration or freezing or smoking

Raw food is uncooked, unprocessed food.

So which of these do we Nigerians not eat?

we eat fresh fish, fresh meat, fresh vegetables

As for raw food we eat fruit, milk, etc.

@ladoma

It's men like you that give men in general a bad name.

How can you possibly be giving us a blow by blow account of all this when your wife's health and probably her life is in imminent danger?

Have you no shame?
do you not fear God?
Do you have no home training at all or is this how you were raised?


hisss,

Too sad

@gaddafi81

abi o!

me I dey fear all this marriage baby making wahala.
If it's not husbands stressing out their wives with all sorts, it's 20 hours of excruciatingly painful labour and blood all over the place.

I don't know o!

Your uncles own no get equal !!

less than 1 year after marriage he is already setting up his mistress?

Do these people not fear God, or whatever deity they believe in?
Do they not think that AIDS is real?
What's the deal wit these men abeg?

sweet mama:

[b]Hello Nairalanders, I'm new here and i have alot of issues bothering my mind,i have been married for three months now and is not easy adapting to this new way of life, however I'm getting use to.I get up as early as 5am to cook and prepare him breakfast but when he gets up he can't even make up the bed, it makes me angry. please tell me must i be the one to make up the bed, even the bedsheets I'm the one taking care of that, he throws his shoes anyhow, steep clothes and never bother to wash them, even when i do wash them he will hardly pick them up.I'm doing all i could to make the marriage a happy one but he seems not to realise it. when he gets home in the evening and i greet him with a smile and loudly he will answer in a way that i will not hear, i will have to do it the second time again but he will shout at me saying he answered me the first time. He use to be very nice when we were dating but now he is different. Even in the bedroom he doesn't satisfy me, he makes love to me once and just fall asleep he will hardly go for round two, he actually always leaves me half way making me feel uncomfortable. Please help me i don't know what to do.[/b]

kai

This marriage thing na wahala o!!

[/quote][quote author=NINETOFIVE link=topic=199453.msg3145054#msg3145054 date=1227764042]
What happened to the idea of coming up with a systematic way of collecting taxes, most people pay taxes not by choice, there has to be a complete mechanism to make you pay your taxes, Nigerians are too quick at copying, but at the same time, are too simplistic or just simply naive, is horrendous that most of the replies here are at an equal rate simplistic, or would I be right to think that there is a hiding catch here, cause that is the only smart explation. making people to collectively loose their livelyhood is not in the least fair, believe me the trickle down effect of this action is going to be cumbersome, If this is not pure witch hunt every case should have been dealt with on individual bases, right now Awo's principle comes to mind.

SELF ASSESSMENT RETURNS (Self Employed)

Self-assessment system was introduced in Nigeria with effect from 1 st January 1991 and it has been operational since then at the Federal Level and in Lagos State.

Under the scheme, tax payers are required to complete the Self-Assessment Tax Return Form 1 R 30.4 (Copy obtainable free of charge from all the Board of Internal Revenue Offices which are located in all areas of the State.

The completed tax return form showing the computation of the liability together with the relevant financial statements, detailed schedules and accompanied with payment of the tax due Is to be filed with the appropriate tax office within the time permitted by law. There is also a general tax guide which accompanies the self-assessment tax form to assist tax payers in completing the Form.

The TAX remittance procedures in Lagos are:

1. Taxpayer goes to the Tax Station to obtain Tax Assessment and Bank Payment Advice

2. Taxpayer goes to the bank with the assessment/ Bank Payment Advice, obtains the customised teller, completes the set correctly and pays to the bank

3. Taxpayer drops the Accountant General’s copy of the teller in the box while he/she goes away with two (2) copies of the teller temporarily.

4. Taxpayer goes back to the bank after Value Date to collect the receipt.

5. Taxpayer presents the Original Receipt at the Tax Station/Agency to complete the transaction for which assessment was obtained (if necessary).

NB: Only one receipt will be issued per teller.


Ignorance is never an excuse of falling foul of the law.

If traders can source all their goods abroad, go through all the processes, forms, etc of getting their "containers" to Niaja, Go through all the processes of getting their containers off the ships and through customs and then claim ignorance and  cry foul when asked to pay taxes for selling their goods in a federal state then they deserve what they get from LSG.

So because the law clearly states that tax evaders should be prosecuted it would have been better for the LSG to go to the market and arrest and prosecute all those traders who could not prove that they had been paying tax?

If the LSG had gone that route, and the traders not only lost their daily trading profits, but also had to pay legal bills and be saddled with a criminal record on top, then you all would be back here again decrying "Draconian State Government" yada ,  yada,  yada.

*smh*

@moves

If you are going to offer somebody advice on matters like these  I think you should not read selectively.
You understand my vindictiveness because I am a woman.
Frankly if it was a man who had posted a similar story about his wife I may well have said exactly the same thing.
How am I being vindictive?

Unfaithfulness, neglect and disrespect know no gender. The issue at hand here is lack of good breeding and home training.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you o jare!

The OP has stated numerously that this man has been neglecting his family, for about 2 years now.
You are talking about a slip up

There are 2 other women involved in his life (and she knows he is definitely having sexual relations with one of them by his own admission), spends no time with his son, His pastor will not help her, and you are saying there is no evidence of any abuse by the husband?

I think I specifically said she is being emotionally and mentally abused by this man.
He is unfaithful, neglectful, disrespectful of her not to mention the probability of infecting her with only God knows what diseases he may be picking up in his philandering escapades.

You can still sit there and post that there is no evidence of abuse by the husband and he may have slipped?
Slipped where exactly?  Out of his marital home into his mistresses bed?

How exactly would you define abuse?

Hisssssess


May I suggest with all respect  that you take your own advice that you gave to another poster " if u don't have reasonable advice; it is not compulsory to give one"

shetan:

Am sorry to say u are just making a mountain out of a molehill. Infidelity or extra marital affairs is something that is rampant among men(Nigerians or foreigners) We live in a world where sex is now a phone call and a click away, due mainly to the way your fellow women dress and shamelessly throw themselves at men. So, it will take the special grace of God for men to be faithfull to their women. I think u should consider yourself lucky your husband is not even thinking of marrying any of his mistresses. But are you sure U yourself are not the reason for his philandering? Have u sat him down to ask him why he is cheating on u? I know for sure that, that a man cheats on his wife does not mean he doesnt love her anymore. If he does it secretly, it means he still respects and loves u. How about a man who cheats and even tells his wife to take a hike if she can't stand it? I suggest u talk to him and iron things out with him.

@ If men have no intention of being faithful to their women then WTH do they go and take a vow that they will?

Is it by force to get married? Where is GOD in all this when the man is betrayig his marital vows? ***smh*** rubbish!!

In these days of AIDS and all that , if a man wants to have multiple sexual partners what gives him the right to drag another person ( in this case 2 other  people) into his web of lies and deceit?


And Why oh Why must it be the woman's fault that a man cheats and lies?  The fact that he does not have the courage of his convictions to sit her down and tell her that he wants to move on IMO makes him a man in name only.
Where I come from and where I was raised, Good or Bad the man will stand by his word and his decision.

Honestly
Some of you are men only because you have a "third leg", because your action surely do not say anything manly about you.
Any so called "Man" who is doing what this man is doing is an abusive, emotionally retarded coward.

Shikena!

bacterium:

Africa food is very smelling. Why is the food like that? I have one friend from your country she is prety lady but when I go to her house the food is so bad smelling. What is in it? Please I will like to know.
Thanks You,

I ask again,

Who in the name of all that is holy keeps inviting these people to NL?

I tire o!

angelina08:

American foods can not be compeared in Nigerian, [size=14pt]we Nigerians don't eat fresh foods[/size].

we don't?

@1luvkipsus

Married, Cohabiting , what does it matter?

The man is an abusive cheat.

What exactly is there for her to regret here, other than the bad choice she made in her husband?


All the women who are still with their abusive cheating husbands advising another woman to stay in an abusive relationship?
In aid of what exactly? for whose benefit? The abusive cheat she finds herself saddled with?

Misery surely does love company.

On which planet is a man of his calibre deemed a husband worth any woman's time energy and prayers abeg?

All the people saying forgive him, pray for him and all that,  ahn ahn, 
notto mention those saying she's maybe not as attractive as she was before, and similar rubbish

The man is abusing the woman and all you can suggest is forgive him and pray for him?

The man is mentally and emotionally abusive.
Why must it always the abused woman's fault?

Why should the abused woman wanting to walk away from an abusive relationship , and that is what this is, be told "Marriage is for life". So she should suffer under the abuse till what happens exactly? Till she has a nervous breakdown, commits suicide, kills her son,  when will you think that she has endured enough from this man?

@toluxa1

Are u sure this guy duped you or were you just trying to create some drama on NL?

You just bought this story hook line & sinker?
hmmm,

Kobojunkie:

Lagos tax laws in effect for the last 15? You mean say all that time wey I pay tax before those 15 years na ojoro? AAARRGGHHH!! lol

@kobojunkie
We know say u be Papa Ajasco,
but there really is no need to advertise your age na

@oluwdashmi

I meant all these horror stories about childbirth have put me off having children for life.
I have no children and after reading this thread hmm, I think it will be a cold day in hades b4 I do sha.

una sabi scare pesin o!!

bece:

why is my fondant breaking?
i don't know why my fondant is breaking,once i finisshed rolling and i want to transfer to cake it starts to crack then it starts breaking it makes my decoration to look awful like the amateur that i am.

@bece

I think you either have not kneaded it enough ( to make it more elastic) or it is too dry.When things are dry then they often need more water.

Any child with a chronic or recurrent rash that is unresponsive to prescribed treatment deserves a trip to a pediatric dermatologist.

Everyone who is jumping up and down saying Lagos officials are corrupt law breakers yadi , yada, yada.

Bottom line is Lagos tax laws have been in effect for 15 years.

If you have not paid your taxes since then (for the past 15 years for those of you who have been working or trading in that time period) , you are a law breaker. End of story.

It's not about Fashola, it's about you!! You are not qualified to call anyone a corrupt law breaker if you have been in contravention of the laws of the state for 15 years .

Talk about pot calling kettle black.

When you comply with the law and are above reproach, then you are more than welcome to decry lawlessness and corruption. Until then get our tax affairs in order, stop driving on the wrong side of the road during go slow causing more congestion, Wait till you get home before disposing that pure water sachet, don't chuck it on the road causing filth and environmental degradation etc, etc,

Tonim:

If people cooperate with the lagos Internal Revenue Service (LIRS), then the market will not be shut down. The
computer village was shut down because the operators did not heed to the govt's warning.

Fashola is not bent on shutting down markets anyhow, he is asking these businesses to pay their taxes. It is
up to the alaba market business people to determine their fate.

Now to the piracy issue, well that's a different case.

I concur.

If the traders at Alaba want to keep their businesses running and the market open, they know what they need to do to comply. Running helter skelter bemoaning the closure of the market will not help their cause.

@madea

Ingredients
2 tbsp olive oil or sun-dried tomato oil from the jar
6 rashers of smoked streaky bacon, chopped
2 large onions, chopped
3 garlic cloves, crushed
1kg/2¼lb lean minced beef
2 large glasses of red wine
2x400g cans chopped tomatoes
1x290g jar antipasti marinated mushrooms, drained
2 fresh or dried bay leaves
1 tsp dried oregano or a small handful of fresh leaves, chopped
1 tsp dried thyme or a small handful of fresh leaves, chopped
drizzle balsamic vinegar
12-14 sun-dried tomato halves, in oil
salt and freshly ground black pepper
a good handful of fresh basil leaves, torn into small pieces
800g-1kg/1¾-2¼lb dried spaghetti
lots of freshly grated parmesan cheese, to serve

Method
1. Heat the oil in a large, heavy-based saucepan and fry the bacon until golden over a medium heat.

Add the onions and garlic, frying until softened.

Increase the heat and add the minced beef.

Fry it until it has browned, breaking down any chunks of meat with a wooden spoon.

Pour in the wine and boil until it has reduced in volume by about a third.

Reduce the temperature and stir in the tomatoes, drained mushrooms, bay leaves, oregano, thyme and balsamic vinegar.

2. Either blitz the sun-dried tomatoes in a small blender with a little of the oil to loosen, or just finely chop before adding to the pan.

Season well with salt and pepper.

Cover with a lid and simmer the Bolognese sauce over a gentle heat for 1-1½ hours until it's rich and thickened, stirring occasionally.

At the end of the cooking time, stir in the basil and add any extra seasoning if necessary.

3. Remove from the heat to 'settle' while you cook the spaghetti in plenty of boiling salted water (for the time stated on the packet).

Drain and divide between warmed plates. Scatter a little parmesan over the spaghetti before adding a good ladleful of the Bolognese sauce, finishing with a scattering of more cheese and a twist of black pepper.

Tip:
You can make a veggie version of this recipe by substituting soya mince or Quorn for the meat, adding it to the sauce halfway through cooking. Or simply add lots of diced vegetables to the onions, such as courgettes, carrots, peppers and aubergines.

Enjoy!

jimmyjam:

it can never work be lagos state has no jurisdiction over national security issues by law, such issues can only be official from the FG, also fashola cannot enforce it because he has not control over police by law! shi ke na!

so fashola and the state legislative are only inviting qeury and possibly arrest from FG if they are to even try to pass such thing to law, [b]nigeria is a federal republic not a democratic republic [/b]and long live the federal republic on nigeria. nigeria was created before lagos state, long live the federal republic!

Are you for real? or have you just taken a few too many happy pills?


A federal republic is a federation of states with a republican form of government. A federation is the central government. The states in a federation also maintain all political sovereignty that they do not yield to the federation.
Powers of the central government are restricted and STATES retain a degree of self-government.


WTH are you going on about?

@pharoah. Personally I am all for the regulation of billboards in Lagos. E remain small pure wata and gala sellers to put up their own. Those things are an eyesore. Vulcaniser has his sign on the roadside, Amaka Pentecostal church has their own,Iya Basira has one. When will it be enough? Most of them are badly constructed,they block traffic signals. I always wonder if they were even authorised. Pavements are state land, we cant all just go and do what we like there. Not only the cost should go up but stringent specs should be given to anyone wanting to put up a billboard. If people want to use govt land to promote their businesses, they should pay.

chuxy12:

plz for those who are self employed how do we go about this tax thing before they will come and close my business and my shop. the sensitization is all about the need to pay tax but how do we go about it. remember ,70% of the peole in are self employed

@ chuxy12 go to this site http://www.lasg-ebs-rcm.net/

It should answer most of your questions my good man.


@all

Pursuant to Section 1 of the Personal Income Tax Act 104 of 1993 as amended and all other Laws enabling the Board of Internal Revenue, Lagos State, in that behalf, notice is hereby given to the following effect:

1. There is hereby imposed a tax on the income of individuals, Communities and families and arising to any trustee or executor under any settlement, trustee or estate which shall be determined under and be subjected to all the provisions of Act 104 of 1993, that is, any' individual or body of individuals (including a family) and any Corporation Sole, Trustee or Executor, having any income which is chargeable With tax under the provisions of this Act whether personally or in representative capacity shall within the period of ninety days from commencement of the year of assessment declare the income derived from all sources for the purpose of assessment of income tax for the year 2004 in the prescribed Form A obtainable from the Lagos State Board of Internal Revenue Offices given in sub-paragraph 5 below. Furthermore, All employers of labour are requested to collect and complete form H1 ( Returns of Income form) from the Tax Office within their jurisdiction and return them immediately.


The law has been in place since 1993. I think 15 years is sufficient time for people to geth their tax affairs in order.

Double N:

Quite Painful! You can just imagine the amount of money and business going down the drain. on STV Last night the Chairman of the computer village association was complaining that he for example had paid and was yet to recieve his reciept of payment!

Story, story,

His own association has been collecting LAWMA’s money without remitting it to the state.
I'm sure he conveniently forgot to mention that in his interview abi?

The Gov has been negotiating with his association for over two weeks about the issue, why did they not raise non receipt of proof of payment then?

ernal:

Najia sha!

The level of literacy in this country is still so so low.Education n More Education is the key success!!! No Nation will grow with her people not being educated.You all should stop comparing nigeria to the west or East.We all a third world developing country.Education is the Key.Why do you send your kids to school from nursery classes ,why can't you just put he or she into a university and see how he/she performs.Reforms with no education is mere mirage! Long live Naija!!!

I'm sorry , but that sounds to me like a total cop out.

A person who can find some supplier in China to sell them Computer goods and go through the entire process of shipping, paying duties, paying customs and all that and then saying I did not pay taxes where I sell the stuff because the govt did not educate me does not hold water.
At least that's MHO

For the love of God, They don't even  have to leave their stalls at the Village to  pay tax.
The Lagos State govt is moving its people into the 21st century that they are all selling right there in the Village.

http://www.lasg-ebs-rcm.net/
The Official Online Resource for Revenue and Taxation for the Government of Lagos State

Direct Bank Lodgment System (DBLS) of the revenue collection process and provide information for tax administration and planning while monitoring and co-ordinating  all revenue generating activities of the state.

It is a sophisticated information network system linking Tax Stations & other Revenue Agencies to lodgment banks. It uses the Consolidated Online Bank Information Systems (COBIS) messaging system for inter-bank communications by creating and maintaining a database of all revenue collection activities thus allowing for on-line tracking.

LASG-EBS-RCM:
 

    * Increases the internally generated revenue base of Lagos State
    * Provides easy administration, monitoring and co-ordination of all revenue activities in the state
    * Assists to identify fraudulent debit, diversion of funds and excess charges on the state accounts

They have access to computers(no be wetin them dey sell?), they have access to the internet (Cafe's boku for CV), but they still want to hold on to backward thinking.

What is wrong with our people?

For decades we have been complaining that we are getting nothing from the government.
Now that we are being offered something better we still want to carry on with our  hardheadedness and lawlessness?

"A Revenue Official, Akin Ariyo, confirmed that "the place is shut down because the operators of this village failed to pay their taxes. Fewer than 10 per cent of them have responded, so we are waiting for more than 90 per cent."

http://www.independentngonline.com/news/tfpg/article02

Everyone who is saying the government action was too high handed, of all the billions that go through that market every day less than 10% of the traders saw fit to pay their tax.

Non-compliance with the state government directives over a couple of months that all dealers and traders to pay their taxes were ignored.

Secretary to the Ogunbiyi Community Development Association, Barr.Mopelola Ogunajo explained that the closure was in conjunction with IRS and Lagos State Waste Management Agency (LAWMA).

Said she: “IRS just informed us this morning that they have been talking to CAPDAN since two weeks ago over tax; apparently nothing was communicated to anyone of us.

CAPDAN (Computer and Allied Products Dealers Association of Nigeria) is the representative union of most of the traders at Computer Village.
CAPDAN have been collecting LAWMA’s money without remitting it.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2008/nov/21/national-21-11-2008-013.htm

Can somebody please tell me how much more lenient the gov should have been?

People conducting business without paying tax despite numerous requests by the government for them to pay.
People collecting money in the name of government but not remitting it as they are supposed to?
Requests to abide by basic sanitation and environmental regulations ignored?

Even the capping of Income tax payments by the govt was not motivation enough for over 90%of them to comply?

N2500 or N5000 is really too much tax to pay for those traders who make in excess of N300,000 on a good day?
Daily turnover in that place runs into billions of Naira.

Why oh why do Nigerians always want to defend lawlessness?  


We all say we want Nigeria to change for the better, well the change must start with each one of us.

We want better roads, better education, better this, better that,
How is all that to be funded if the businesses do not pay tax?