So god created free will. Which means the hutus used thier freewill to kill the tutsis, the tutsis used thier freewill to run to churches and beg god to have mercy, god decided to ignore thier freewill and allowed the hutus to use thier freewill to enter the churches and kill the tutsis Huh Huh

God was watching. God did everything to stop the war but the people choosed the war. Before the war, God had set before them life and death, and then asked them to choose life but they refused and choosed war instead. So don't ever blame God for this. God is not to be blamed.

What did God do to stop the war If your god is all powerful then why couldn't he stop the war ? Pliz don't peddle the free will argument is has been debunked

To the author may your mother rest in peace. To Abuzola you are a sick bustard.

Of all the atheists on this forum, you have consistently been the most silly.

You see acts of human brutality: acts of man's inhumanity to man, and you begin to bleat about God?

What has God to do with the monstrosities of intelligent beings who are accorded free will?

When will you learn that we have free will exactly so that we can learn and develop over time through our mistakes?

Gosh, you do not inspire thought at all.

Free will ? Where was the free will of the victims of the Rwandan genocide or holocaust ?

When over a million people died in a period of 100 days where was god ? Why didn't he protect them ?

For god so loved the world that he created suffering so that we can have free will

With evolution comes the baggage of survival of the fittest. The religious mind can not explain how a loving god who created the universe with us in mind would have such a horrible system in place.

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

But the moon is not a light, but only reflects light from the sun. God spends a day making light (before making the stars) and separating light from darkness; then, at the end of a hard day's work, and almost as an afterthought, he makes the trillions of stars.

It was later discover that even the bible is scientifically accurate and has all along holds that the earth was Sphere ______ open your Bible to Job:26,7. in KJV the hebrew word for sphere was interpreted as earth while in other translations it is correctely renderd as circle or sphere.

Scientifically accurate ? The same book which tells us that diseases are caused by demons ?

In the same way, I don't know why many young scientists have been persecuted and ostracized by the so-called 'scientific establishment'.

Could you give us the names of young scientists who have been persecuted by the scientific establishment ?

This thread has taught me a valuable lesson since coming to NL - that people who like to bash religion are often a confused lot who have lost their self-identities. Science does not try to fit any theory to any sort of "evidence" - that is not science but stupidity! Don't let any loud and cheap professor deceive you on that. Scientific theories are not made to fit anything; but rather, theories arise from hypotheses which have to be tested for their values rather than "fit" them to anything. Dude, who sold you so cheaply? Undecided

Religion on the other hand does not have any "theory", in as much as a religion is not an enterprise with theories to be fitted into any hypothesis. Rather, religious inquiries are founded on teleology - where you find even non-religious people discussing the nature of all sorts of realities. They do not try to "fit" anything into anything, but attempt to analyse things in a way philosophical way.

The difference between the two is that the former tries to investigate things through a set of systematic protocol, while the other tries to analyse things through various types of logical paradigms.

Why have so many scientists been persecuted by religion  ?  Why was the father of modern science Galileo Galilei  persecuted by the Roman catholic church ?

This thread has taught me that you can't argue rationally with religious people. Science fits the theory to the evidence. Religion fits the evidence to the theory.

That, probably, is because you do not know what the differences are. Has the microscope or telescope told you about your soul? Have those things told you everything about your total makeup as a person?

Microscope has told me there is no reason to believe that l got a soul.

Thanks to the  emergence of the telescope and the microscope,religion can no longer offer an explanation of anything important.

This is also very much true and the reason it has failed to become a scientific law.  Hypothesis, theories that have gone on to become scientific laws all have working formulas but TOE has no working formula and thus remains a myth that is believed by atheists and Christian compromisers.

The germ theory of disease is not a scientific law but that does not make is any less true. In fact the germ theory of disease is a cornerstone of modern science. The definition of theory in science means that your hypothesis is backed by empirical data about observable phenomen.

Without a literal fall, there is no need for redemption and thus no need for Jesus or Christianity.Acceptance of evolution compromises the purpose of Christ's redemption. In accepting evolution and attempting to fit the Bible around it, a theistic evolutionist ends up believing that God used suffering and death to advance animals to men. In other words, death is no longer the penalty for sin, but merely a part of creation. However, according to the Bible sin and death are the opposite of good. Thus, the Bible and evolution contradict one another.

Most stupid girls are in church !

because it was necessary for the garden

Your god is an callous and capricious . He knew the consequences of putting the tree in the garden but did nothing about it.

@sleek u're my person.Thats exactly what i think about frivolous mind.[/quote

Why are you insulting me ? I just asked a legitimate question about your Christian beliefs

The bible tells us to forgive 70 x 7 but amazingly when Adam and Eve  ate from the tree of knowledge of evil and good  god did not forgive them instead he punished for eternity. Christians how do you explain this ?

Wonders of the scientific method is that it criticizes itself, something religion still has to learn

I would beat the pastor and take him to court

Dear friends
We are all human. If it happen to me. i will be very sad but not curse the Pastor or blackmail him. But take the matter to God in Prayer and fasting because is the work of Devil. We can't fight the issue with flesh and body. it is a spiritual matter. It happen to me in a revise other when Pastor Wife decide to give me face even inviting me to they house when nobody is around, giving me suspicious gift. Before i realized and fight the useless devil out of her. My friend take it to God.

Here is my number one problem with religion. It makes people stupid

The question my friends is would Nigeria be a better place without the so called men of god ? What major contribution have these men of god done to the economic,political and social development of Nigeria ?

I wonder. He says God doesnt exist and yet he has thread upon thread on the punishment of the same non-existent God? You gotta laugh at the insecurity of these folks.

Trying to get help you guys see the light and how twisted your religious beliefs are

Do you know that the very popular belief that burning in hell for eternity might not be so?
Do you know that (yes there is the Lake of Fire) this hell which is well known might not be what everybody thinks it is?
Do you know that the stuff said in Revelations are very symbolic stuff and not literal stuff?

Hell is not as everybody is making it out to be.
True it is a place/period/realm of torment but it is for a time and for a reason.

Mt. 25:46 - "They will go away to eternal punishment."

So the bible says people burn in hell for eternity and for me l don't understand the jurisprudence behind that system of judgment. How is it fair to have secular humanist and Adolf Hitler burning together in hell for eternity ?

Does the crime on not believing in a god who refuses to show himself warrant burning for eternity in fire and brimstone ?

@^

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

What a fallacious argument ! Always remember that the burden of proof is with the one making the positive claim !

Has it occurred to you that the Garden of Eden was not a physical place on this planet?

Where is the garden of eden then ?

"Adam and Eve didnt know what death was?" it is remarked

Beg to diifer. If they didnt, they would have asked,

Of course they didnt ask because they understood what death was

"This is the equivalent of trying to punish a toddler with jail time when they don't even know what is a crime" another remark

These werent toddlers but growns.

Toddlers dont give reasons for their actions, these chaps gave explanations for the actions about to be taken and tried to justify it

Not a case of trying to punish but rather the aftermath of a cause and effect.

They knew what they were doing, at least Adam if not Eve.

How did they know that what they were doing was wrong when they had not yet lost their innocence i.e. they had not yet eaten the tree of knowledge of right and wrong.