i dont believe the sahihain are infallible. NO. But i also do not place myself in the position to bring out which hadith is wrong. NO
whether Amina, the prophet's mother was a believer or not is also beyond me. I'd only beg you to let it lie. Am not sure what you think to achieve by discussing their places before Allah

Al-baqir, do you seriously think it needed to dabble into these discussions. am beginning to be afraid for you. These are delicate matters regarding which one MUST not make mistakes.
Qur'an said father, you brought in the interpretation of uncle. Really? Whether you like it or loathe it, nit every single man down from Ibrahim till Muhammad was a believer, and ofcos they were decendants of Ibrahim and Ascendants of Muhammad....so tread carefully.
As for who is or who is not in hell, Allahu a'lam. why should you bother about them?. I dont think its that type of knowledge we must acquire

funshint: That's the problem with interpretation of all these books (Quran and Bible) into English sometimes the meaning is lost. I guess Hell in this sense does not mean "Hellfire". It only implies the grave or a state of permanent rest. This shouldn't be misinterpreted. Just my own submission sha!

Hell is Hell fire....always

diamonda1: can it be true

As for this story, i dont know but i believe him. whatever the numba of musoleen i.e pple who stand to pray, once the imam steps out and tells them to organise themselves, they will all obey. That is the power of the first takbiratul ihram, one which makes every other activity haraam. so people touch each other feet to feet, shoulder to shoulder standing in all glory before their lord and it takes you only to be human to drink in the awe of that sight if you see a congregation in makkah

An for records, its ALLAHU A'LAM. An assistant Alfa should know that much at least

balash:
I love this response,would like to ask u something! The way we perform ablution!! I mean the step's washing hand,nose,mouth,face,arm,head,ear,leg's!! Is It anywhere in the quran this steps the way we perform it? U all making it look like I actually formed this up! I said my ustaz thought me ths in the hadith while still in arabic lessson then but I can't remember what hadith? I can't say anywhere in the quran which clearly state's it? Moreover quran don't gve detailed answer's Rosul actually Gave it in detail's...I hope u all are not mistaken me? I never said quran doesn't say we shld marry 4?? Am standing on my ground that marrying more than one wife is not by choice but by. Reason!! U All backing this thing up instead of us to enlighten Eachother and correct some people's intuition's on this law's.Allah even say we can make rule's with islam on common sense! most of this weathy men now marry like 10 / 15 different wife's and alfa's actually perform nikkai 4 them? Is there anywhere Allah permits marrying like 10 because U wealthy?? This stuffs is makng rounds too much in nigeria and I mandate u to go to learned scholar's and confirm what I said? I finished quran at a tender age! Did waleemah when I was 16, and studied hadith for 2yrs more b4 I turned into an assitant alfa in my arabic lesson because my ustaz wasn't around anymore and I have Nothing less than 5 People under my tutelage who did walimah Graduation also? Am not been proud or somethng! I might have Shelved into lotta things while in the university Which made Me forget a lot (am ashamed of that) but the Fact stand's quote me anywhere and if you ask and u been told am lieing then u can always come back and wash me dry? Most of u denying my quote's does not know if am right or wrong u just want to stand on that right that marrying more than 1 is by Choice and not reason and I will never accept ur stands also!! Reference or not! Its what I knw! Somethings doesn't just leave ur head no matter what!! If u wake me up in the middle of the night to recite surat mulk,yasin,kaf etc I won't even think twice b4 reciting it offhead! This are things I was thought lots and amonsgt things I can't easily forget! This rule's on marrying more than 1 is what I knw and if u feel u dnt want to believe me! Walao halaam but am standing on it (go figure)....Salaam

now i should like to laugh so hard!really? people under your tutelage, suratul mulk and others by heart, 2years study of hadith.blah blah. you hav got to be swelling. Now 2yrs study and you cant rememba just one to back your stuff up. Now i'm going to be ashamed for you. Your knowledge of surah al mulk and others doesnt give you that right to pass fatwa on crucial religious matters. besides mulk has nothing to do here. it doesnt even discuss polygamy. i ddnt see you mention surah an-nisai. what happened? maybe you havent learned that. you should do so.
i also missed the part in your OP where you said the wife MUST agree to the new union. really? Alfa re o try rara. The prophet married new wives even without telling the previous wives. Aisha got word that hez getting a new wife but not from him. You dont understand the role of a husband in shariah. i hope you will stop making a cake of yourself. just stop it already

dyfatai: Its suprising to see a woman take this kinda stand in a polygamy discussion. Obirin bi tie sowon. I salute ur understanding of the deen sha.

thanx. our islamic law is not subject to someone's whims and caprices. A person cant observe the part that favours him or her and leave the rest. when you are a muslim, embrace the law in its entirety

balash:
Walaykum salaam dear,whre are u geting ur own belief's since u said what i posted was personal reason?? i posted the main reason with polygamy in islam by Allah and i can authoritatively say poygamy is more embraced in aafrica expecially in nigeria and most of some scholar's are nit talking about it? in nigeria every chief imam would automatically have a 2nd wife but in the main islamic core countries why are polygamy not embraced the way we do here? islam has been long established in most of theis country long b4 we in nigeria abolished traditonal religion? if u can get close to a scholar who is very versed and doesnt incline any form of self defense's in judgement plz ask! my quote wasnt determined on personal decision..

its okay. dont get me wrong here, we are not at cross roads. That other pple do not embrace polygyny as in Nigerian situation doesnt matter. what you said is not totally wrong but The law of polygyny makes the rule subject to ability of the man to do justice and ability to maintain the wives...now if he likes, he cud take 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 even when each one has been a 'darling'. it doesnt matter. The rule is a gift

ameenahz:


tbaba1234 is a good option too and i'm sure he's not taken .

lol. buh an Umu must av an Abu now. as i am umuNusaybah, esji has booked tey tey to be AbuNusaybah..so alfa tbaba oni binu ni

As salamu alaykum. this has ben an interesting read. i love topics on polygamy from islamic perspective.

What i'd like to chip in is that if a man has the MEANS to sustain more than a wife, he needs absolutely NO REASON to marry another. He can do it just because HE FEELS like it. whether his wife likes it or not. however putting ha emotion into consideration is mere moral obligation not legal obligation.
Whether he discovers her to be hermaphrodite or not fine enough or whatever! he can take another. All the reasons OP listed are personal preferences.
The key point is that He must be able to comfortably maintain both wives and their kids

As far as i have dared to Imagine, the difference of Religions have always been there. when a Muslim crosses over, muslims go red (y not), if a christian crosses over, xtians start to ask why the publicity, whats d big deal, blah blah. Thats why we are humans. everyone believes in their own religion. we cant agree buh we can co-exist. its high time we stopped the bad blood. islam is victimised, more than any religion in the world. "Its d religion of terrorist, tell your brothers to bring back our gals, tell your people to stop bombing" really we dont need it. Islam has laid down ways to live of which bombing and abduction isnt part of. if anyone does dem, den hez out of the fold of islam...terrorists are NOT muslims. do not blame islam for the evils done by muslims. blame the people demselves.
come to think of it, There was a time when Christianity was worth it!

kuss: if we have to write stories of people that converted From Islam to Christianity this forum will not be able to contain it, I am one of them born and brought up a Muslim, my father died a Muslim my mother is still a Muslim but today am washed by the blood of the lamb

Good for you o jare..the washed-by-lamb-blood-somebody.
what better accomplishment cud your dad av achieved?. To us, dying a muslim is our greatest achievement. if Allah wants you, He will show you the way. if He doesnt, den to HIM belongs all praises. Everyone cant be a muslim you know?

tuffgongjo: u really make sense except where u made a cheap remark which isn't worth it,cus xtians pray in a language that d populace understands.

i am impressed by you. you ddnt even snap at him even though you thought he was wrong to refer to 'shirobobo' or stuff. speaking in tongue however is not a language of the populace. Not even that of the christians. its a jargon of God knows what. Tongues as used in d bible means 'language'. simple

'And ye shall speak in different tongues'...i suppose ds means different languages as we have a million and one today

husband ti dapo ni ward.. this is tbaba's thread not ESJI's who is the Abu Nusaybah

Aameen. may Allah accept it and the prayers of every muslim. bring lights to our hearts and make us fear him.

well done my 'husband'

shukran jazeelan albaqir. Al-an, fahim.

great!

salam alaykum yaa jam'a. tbaba, mac, the new phemiey....i see y'all. i avnt been following in toto. i have been very busy with books ehn..exams in sight.
i know av really really missed buh in shaa Allah after exams i will be back full-on for a summary by TBABA or ESJI..


salam

on the prophet poisoned thing, wallahi i wanna learn not argue. have dropped the argument loving self somewhere. now am out to acquire. tell me wht killed and i will inshaaAllah hold on to the truth...

Al-Baqir:


I've read through and can see your "fatwas". Lol.
I simply don't want to contribute. Before you knew it, you will see some brothers with accusations and the whole thread might end up derailed.

i wasnt sure of my givings. there is no scholarly authority. i need you alfas to tell her dos stuffs wth authorities. she might wanna convert and we could be a reason

scientifically, the brain cannot draw a picture of a face one has neva seen before in a dream. you mustav seen the person for real, in a picture, on the tv, newspaper or even in a market just like dat. buh ur brain mustav captured the picture cos it cant create an image on it own.
however its possible to dream of someone yu v neva met buh not wth his face ofcos if yu avnt seen even his picture b4.
From experience wallahi...by Allah, i have dreamt about broda lanrexlan and he should be a witness, i sent pm and told it to him the following day. i avnt seen his face anywhere so d face i saw in my dream wasnt his. i even told him he had tribal marks wic he sed he didnt. thats d possiblity of seeing a virtual person in a dream.
in d instant scenario, if am to believe that the broda didnt lie to the lady just to marry her, den he mustav seen ha image somewia or a look alike....

Are those humans in the pictures?. so many men going to karbala. imam hussein is so lucky i see. shiites are very loyal to him. they even donate their blood just for him. i hope to see one eating poisoned meat for the prophet too one of this days

harmeenart: @Babylaloroy: Just aw it should be.Jazakallahukhyran
@op: A muslim can work in a bank if it doesnt deal with usury and any other forbidden deal.
Abortion :Allah commands us not to kill our children out of fear of poverty. It is He wu provides for u n for them. It is haram except when a known harm to mother or child is known.
And to the issue of christians: Allah doesnt refer to them as idolators,but people of the book. Hence,makes it permissible to eat their food and marry from their women those wu are chaste.We are just not to partake in their celebrations as it goes against wat we believe in.
In Islam,the injeel is what is recognised as the book revealed to jesus. We believe the bible contains some of it. So we believe in that which tally with wat is in our book and we leave the rest.

mashaaAllah. thanx bibi Aminah. I wanna add something again. We are even commanded to believe in the revealed books...the torah, injeel which is bible, zabur of david, and Al Qur'an of Muhammad! However, i still do not think the bible of NOW is the bible of THEN. it has changed far far far away from what was given to prophet Isa a.s. That doesnt mean we wont believe the believable though. we take the truth and jettison the fake. Bible of now says eesa was crucified, we dont think so. And so many other contrary beliefs... Buh in all we are to believe in the revealed books- injeel inclusive to be complete Muslims

peace

busar: gσσɗ тσ нєαʀ тнαт уσυ αʀє ℓєανιηg тнє hood.Allah amu σʝσ ʀσ σн.

Amin ooo

harmeenart:
hmmm, wat can I say babylaw.......sha send invitation o or its e-walimah u go use am do ni?
Barakallahufiih sis. Aw skul too?

Amin. thanx babe. skul's fine...bikhair

sixth: perception of christianity: i donot like to hurt your philosophy or anyone else's buh truth has to be told. Allah told us in the quran that 'whoever does a religion besides islam will have it rejected from him' That is HE wont accept it and he shall be of the losers on the day of judgement...may Allah protect us from such loss. Unluckily, christianity is not islam so it forms part of 'others'. There is only islam and others.
seventh: gayism and lesbianism called homosexualism is a grave sin. a big crime. its morally degrading and unnatural. people believe the pple involved are born that way. its erroneous and i think not. Allah sed HE has created us to marry fom the opposite sex and find tranquility. islam doesnt allow for ds morally degrading dirt and it was d engagement in it that caused Allah to wipe out 'Qawm Luut' the nation of prophet luut(lot). inshort, its a crime i cant even exaggerate enuf!
eighth: abortion is even wider than in ordinary parlance. in islam it is outright haraam wia d baby poses no life threat on the mother. it is killing wic is also a sin. some school of thought differ on weda it is excuses b4 three months wen the baby is now human...Allahu a'lam. let scholars clarify. Buh from my knowledge of islamic law and as a general rule, a woman is not allowed to abort simply because she doesnt want the baby.
ninth: islam is even science itself. islam is the bedrock of science and without it, science probably wudnt av found footing this much. there is a million and one examples i cud give on how islam has proved science or how science has cum to confirm science in the quran. The importance of mountains as quran calles dem pegs for holding the earth, the formation of rain, everything right to the way you eat and drink and sleep. subhanallah!. islam has left no stone unturned and science.is no exception. The prophet sed its good to drink water only minutes after eating not immediately...science.proved it.
we shud lie down on the right side wen sleeping....science proved it against sleeping on d left.....etcetera
tenth: inter religious marriages. It is a wide topic too. Generally if there are so many muslim unmarried sistas, i see no reason y a muslim shud marry a non muslim...it is general that we muslimah shudnt even marry a non believer at alll, buh the muslim men MAY marry only from the people of the book christians inclusive provided he changes her...i dnt know about if he doesnt change ha.
11: creation. Allah created the world. the universe, the heaven and the earth and man and angels and unlike in christendom, HE didnt rest! And hez Ahsanul Khaliqeen...the perfect creator. He only need to say the word 'kun'...be! fayakun...and it will be. That was how he created His creations. He made prophet Adam as the first man and he moulded him from clay, dust, mud....as its severally called... following a well known event, He sent him to earth to dwell with his wife Hawau and procreate, and Allah revealed that HE had made us into several nations and tribes...from that single man and woman Adam and eve who is the greatest ancestor of all humans alive!! subhanallah!how amazing can that be?
12: the bible: thats a book, not a holy book as christens claim. astaghfirullah if i err buh i tink not. the book is just a book of letters and epistles as written substantially by st. paul. if you arent bias, yu will know the story surrounding your bible...its a book subject to ammendment, additions, subtractions and alterations....The Quran for over 1400 years has remained unchanged ever and it stands the test of time everly...why? because it wasnt written by a human!

lastly, everything i av written above is my responsiblity and i alone shall be responsible for it inshaaAllah. let no one take islam for it as most people do. may Allah show guidance to whom He wills...

salam

peace be upon you lady, i wish to ansa your question in its entirety, buh as it is, i cant support dem with authority. i will try as much as i can then i hope our scholars in d building can give you something yu'll understand inshaaAllah.

first: Allah is the only supreme person in the heaven and the earth. As far as i've known, there is no person we take as yu take the popes. in different regions or states, we av elderly scholarly leaders like MUFTIs or AMEERs who serve as the leader of their own arena, region buh not of the whole muslim world. the prophet p.b.u.h said if three men are travelling or togeda on a journey, den dey shud make someone their leader. that is to stress the importance of having a leader so there is peace and tranquility moreso since we v been ordered to obey whoeva leads ...if he leads right
second: during christmas, the muslim world isnt expected to feel anyhow and we infact feel nothing. its nt any special day to us because of reasons i'll rush thru so i wnt bore yu wth ds bulk.....prophet isa being celebrated on dah date according to our own quran was born around april,may,june not december....mas in latin means death, dat is christmas is d celebration of death of jesus not his birth as is now widely claimed and we dont believe in his death. if yu delve into d history of christmas, yu will realise its a pagan practise to celebrate their pagan gods nd godesses. Then chrismas isnt recognised in islam as we av our own recommended festivals called eid al fitri nd eid al kabir. Whoever innovates anyother is not among us..inshaaAllah
Third: leaving the folds of islam is called apostacy. ar-riddah. and it is a grave grave grave sin that merits harsh punishment..only by Allah. there are several quranic verses i Cant quote now that says an apostate deserves 'adhabun shadeed' most severe punishment. buh it wasnt specified. tho there are examples in history where apostates were killed buh that was in an islamic state during the era of the noble Muhammad. pbuh.
fourth: mary as in christendom is called Maryam ibn Imran in islam. she was a devoted muslim who lived in a closed tower worshipping Allah day and night and eating from bounties directly from paradise. she was a virgin who conceived mirculously and birthed the messiah- isa ibn Maryam. the jesus christ. That was Maryam and we rever her and respect her as Allah s.wt even mentioned her name in d quran and devoted a whole surah of Quran in her name. Buh we are not to worship her at all. shez to be an embodiment of virtues we muslimahs can emulate not worship as catholics do.
fifth: muslims are allowed to work anywhere the pay and d work is halaal i.e pure and allowed. A muslim man can work in a bank and be true to his work; no embezzlements. However for a lady working there. if the work doesnt entail her mixing so freely with men and the use of hijab is allowed,then mashaaAllah, she can work there buh i personally av some reservations. A muslim woman is expected to spend more time with her kids teaching dem the deen of islam. taking care of her husband nd d rest of the family, i think bank job is not so accomodative. buh in general, if decent dresscode is Allowed, den its ok to do it.its nigeria and one must survive

to the single ladies in d house, sissie, deols.....haminah
am leaving you to it soooonest!

tbaba is unmarried?. i neva thot yu were though buh it looked more like it to me. so old uncle we are expecting ur own ceremony come 2014. share invites and lets rock it!...inshaaAllah.

mr. mac, yu sef shud begin to dey mura o.


who else..ehn ehn mr esji, coughs# i reserve my comment for im

maclatunji:

You did not answer me question and you are asking me another.

I will answer to save energy- sheikh? Far from it, I try to be a good Muslim is all I can say.

sorry i forgot. i didnt write it. a friend shared it.