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Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 11:05pm On Nov 15, 2017
UbanmeUdie:




You are the one that is causing confusion here by your post.

Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:10 mentions the word earth but in different context or meaning.
the first earth mentioned refers to the world or planet earth to be more concise and the second place where it is mentioned clearly referred to dry land as earth.

Now, for the purpose of your so called research and claims, which do you mean?
then use your sense, because the radiometric test was done upon the second earth, the one we step our feet on today.

Its common sense, accordinf to science, that earth that was created in second day is more than 4billion years old according to the radiometric test. Use your head
Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 11:02pm On Nov 15, 2017
greatnaija01:
bro am a theologian... i studied greek n hebrew and those words have no issue o.... I WENT TO LIFE THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY LAGOS.
cos when we come to ESCHATOLOGY... EARTH is simply the ground in the WORLD.

the WORLD simply means the EARTH and its ATMOSPHERE.


the world simply means earth and atmosphere? Really? Who taught you that?
Sorry sir, the world consists of the earth and every living creature in it sir.

And again, the quotation down told us how planet earth came to be sir and it was created in the 2nd or 3rd day, the light (sun) came in the first day

Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 10:51pm On Nov 15, 2017
UbanmeUdie:



pick up your bible and don't be in a rush about reading Genesis 1:1-3

Verse 1 says, In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. You need to understand that verse 3 didn't happen immediately. between verse 1 and verse 3 was a time lag.

Mind you, a day before God is a thousand years before us and vice versa.

What God created on the first day in the creation account in Genesis 1 is Light in verse 3-5.


You need to understand that how many verses of the scripture appear are not actually based on the time of occurrence.
bros, drop your ego, "earth" was created in day 2. Even you don't know the bible. Read down and see it, are you blind?

Read the screenshot of genesis

Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 10:32pm On Nov 15, 2017
greatnaija01:
I have proved it o... the world AINT 6000 YEARS OLD. its more n no one knows the exact date.

no Sir, I think you have issues differentiating the words "world" and "earth"

According to the Bible after the firmaments has been separated, earth was created on the second day of creation. You need to check the meaning of "earth" sir, you believers need to drop your ego and ignorance.

Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 10:18pm On Nov 15, 2017
UbanmeUdie:
shocked



No scientific analysis or proof can fault God's word.

Genesis 1:1 says in the beginning God created the heaven and earth.

Now, do you know how many years interval between verse 1 and verse 3 of Genesis 1

I honestly don't think you do.


Until you are able to see that, what is contained in Genesis 1 is not as literal as you see it, I won't comment further.
the Bible said he created earth, heaven and light in two days sir, the first and second day, unless you want to add to what the Bible said
Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 10:17pm On Nov 15, 2017
greatnaija01:
lol
you are so BLIND..... that a blind bat can be your god.

let me open your EYES.

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them: and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH(REPAIR- meaning it has been existing long before that time n it was to be REPAIRED) the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

as promised... Genesis 1... REPLENISH shows that its not 6000years.... deut 29:29 shows it too... WHAT GOD DIDNT MENTION.... DONT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES OR USE CARNAL SCIENTIFIC MINDS TO CALCULATE GOD... it leads to HERESY.

you do not really want to know God... its clear u see the bible as a story book. You just come here and VOMIT THRASH... Genesis 1:1 = if you read it and you know other scriptures you will see that Verses 1 n 2 occurred in different UNMENTIONED UN ACCOUNTED TIME-FRAMES. GOD DOES NOT CREATE IMPERFECT SYSTEMS... GENESIS 1 does not mention alot of things... so pls STICK TO THE WORD OF GOD... knowledge puffs up n brings PRIDE.

your post is totally off from what we are discussing, go back and read to original post. Gosh
Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 9:42pm On Nov 15, 2017
Gmajor:

Do you enjoy quoting things out of context or are you ignorant?
I'm not ready for dunce belivers here

Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 9:41pm On Nov 15, 2017
tempest01:



When was the begining

Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 9:36pm On Nov 15, 2017
tempest01:


The bible didn't say there was no earth....it says it was void and without form.
Genesis 1, "in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth"
Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 9:30pm On Nov 15, 2017
ikbnice:
Let the drama begin
lame please, Adam was created 5days after earth was created. Do Christians in Nigeria know the bible at all?

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Religion / Re: According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 9:29pm On Nov 15, 2017
greatnaija01:
You didnt quote scriptures to prove your point BUT you just VOMITTED YOUR IGNORANCE SHAAAAA..... guy quote scriptures with accurate proof n I will prove to you that the world is MORE THAN A MILLION YEARS OLD with only Genesis 1...


you are the person vomiting ignorances, go read sir, Christian in Nigeria are the dumbest people ever, they don't even know their bible.

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Religion / According To The Bible, Adam Was Created 6000years Ago, Hard To Believe by betterABIAstate: 9:23pm On Nov 15, 2017
There's still a misery behind this, its not possible in reality that the earth is just 6000years old, the ages of offspring from Adam to Jesus till date records 6000years. This is impossible in reality

According to scientific radiometric dating of earth elements, the earth is over 4billion years of age.

http://www.hebroots.com/lul7_8.html

Religion / Re: 'Apostle Suleman Collects N5000 For Handshake For Blessings' - Man Accuses by betterABIAstate: 6:21pm On Nov 15, 2017
Alcatraz005:
Pastors are under fire in Nigeria. But no matter what they do with our pastors, we would never accept ISLAM. God forbid bad thing. They can continue maligning the Christian faith and its messengers. Islam is a NO NO for millions of Nigerian Christians.
Nigeria pastors are criminals, I'm a Christian though

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Religion / Re: Primate Nicholas Okoh Speaks On Tithing by betterABIAstate: 8:44pm On Nov 14, 2017
sdkalu:
I pay tithe of 10% and I will soon make it 20%. My sweat, my money, my church / pastor and to my God. Abeg come and beat me for paying tithe.
if you like give all, who cares, is it my money that will pay for parking space at Ikeja airport?
Religion / Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by betterABIAstate: 2:05pm On Nov 14, 2017
Ken4Christ:


So, because he is an Apostle, he cannot make mistakes. There is a difference between a revelation he got from the Holy Spirit and trying to analyze what was already written. Apostle Paul had the greatest revelation concerning what Jesus did for us but on his comment concerning the tithe Abraham paid, I don't agree with him.
so there's a mistake in the Bible cheesy

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Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 12:43pm On Nov 14, 2017
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Religion / Re: Tithing by betterABIAstate: 11:46am On Nov 14, 2017
When you go to a cinema, you collect AC and popcorn for just N1,500 and still watch a movie. The owner of the cinema pay tax, churches don't, so why must I pay a church let's say 15k of my 150k cos of AC?

Did the bible say we should pay for AC in church?
Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 11:41am On Nov 14, 2017
ajog1:

I am gonna have to cut you short there. Jesus participated in the rites of those days, tithing was one which he did. Mark 12:41-44 gives a clear account where the Christ sat opposite where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the "TEMPLE TREASURY". Jesus in vs 43 commended the widows' midget offering more than others. Which sends a strong evidence that he was part of rendering of offerings in the Temple.
However, Jesus never actually placed serious emphasis on tithing, little wonder he in Matthew 23;23 literally threw a jab at the pharisees for placing much attention on paying tithe at the expense of MORE WEIGHTIER MATTERS which is mercy, love and the ministry of the Holy ghost that he spoke of on his ascension.
Now, the offering of valuables (monies, foods) is commended as an entitlement by Apostle Paul who in 1 Cor 9:11 asked if it were too much to reap material blessings having blessed the Corinthian brethren spiritually.
I could rightly assume that this thread was born out of the controversy surrounding tithing, wherewith I succumb to the fact that several abuses has been made on tithing by several persons.
But we should never underscore the importance of investing your valuables into the propagating of the Gospel of Christ.
To which I conclude by saying having the ministry of the holy ghost is key to living in these times, identify a spirit-filled Biblical assembly and I am sure there may be times where you will contribute something substantial (way more than the 10 percent) to the servant of God who has imparted you and the growth of the gospel.
No force is placed on you to pay any tithe; sowing into the kingdom is not a money-multiplying scheme- there are blessings that money cannot buy. The responsibility therefore lies on you to identify kingdom investment that causes heaven to rejoice and key into them!
stop quoting Bible in half, read Mathew 23 from 1, that chapter was meant to criticize the pharisees, it m wasn't talking about tithe. Oh you lots claim to know the bible but know nothing
Religion / Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by betterABIAstate: 11:36pm On Nov 13, 2017
Tithing crooks looking for every means to maintain the statusquo.

The Bible even stated that he tithed 10% of the spoil, give some to his men who went for the battle and returned the remaining to the king of Sodom. His reasons was that so the king of Sodom wouldn't think that the spoils made him rich
Tithing crooks and fake translation cheesy

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Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 10:50pm On Nov 13, 2017
petra1:


Where did the Bible say so
the Bible never said so either, don't force us to give us to do what Jesus didn't do.

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Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 10:39pm On Nov 13, 2017
petra1:


It’s about the topic and not about you paying . If you pay you reap the benefit if you don’t na your wahala

Read Mattew 23:23
stop quoting this your Mathew 23:23 version, Jesus is not a tither

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Religion / Re: What Do The Anti-tithe Army Make Of Mathew 23:23 ? by betterABIAstate: 10:33pm On Nov 13, 2017
Tithe is not the most important thing, "woe be unto those who pay it and forget most important things"

Little wonders Jesus never practised it

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Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 10:21pm On Nov 13, 2017
petra1:


But you know there’s no place such is written . Avoid insincere question . I’m sure the reason you couldn’t answer me is because you’ found yourself guilty by that question I asked . I can understand you inability to answer . Silence is consent . You can see my point now. If you condemn tithe because it’ was mentioned in the law anf you give offering , pray , fast , give to beggars , worship etc . It is hypocrisy to condemn the tight ( no offense ) They were all part of the law together .

So my point is we do all these not because the law say so but because they are principles . There Re spiritual principle mentioned in the law .The only things done away are what christ has fulfilled . He didn’t fulfill alms to the poor , he didn’t fulfill prayer , he didn’t fulfill offering but he fulfill burnt offering which is Sin offering , he didn’t fulfill tithe .
I won't still pay it until you quote the bible where Jesus preached or practised tithing

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Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 10:06pm On Nov 13, 2017
petra1:


Do you believe in fasting , praying , giving offering?
I won't pay tithe until you show me where Jesus and his apostles did it. Don't ask me uncorrelated questions
Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 9:45pm On Nov 13, 2017
petra1:


The 3 year tithe was for the poor . It never replace the one for God in support of the ministers of the sanctuary . Why dwelling on the minor . We tithe not because it was mentioned in the law . But because it’s a principle . Fasting was in the law prayer was in the law . Giving alms was in the law why are we still doing them
I can't believe you Sir, cos you want mW to pay tithe. Tithing is not Christianity, Jesus never did it

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Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 6:46pm On Nov 12, 2017
SAVIOURJESUS:
burnt offerings, sin offering and peace offering were all symbolic referring to the sacrifice of Jesus. which he fulfilled by his death.
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Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other.

Do you see Jesus didn't even condemn tithe payment. Notice that Judgement, mercy and faith were placed on the same category as tithe but those were higher than tithe.

Payment of tithe is out of love for God and a way to honor God not because it is a law.
What matters is that Christians agree so God agrees.
Shallom
Jesus never tithed sir
Religion / As A Christian, Who Really Needs Your Money? by betterABIAstate: 5:03pm On Nov 12, 2017
The pastors or the indigents?

Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 4:55pm On Nov 12, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Did Jesus broke the laws Yes or no?
I did no do the part that said pay tithe every 3years and burnt offerings
Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 4:43pm On Nov 12, 2017
asuustrike2009:

He never practised it indeed! You're so funny. Very funny even with the Bible verse. Swallow your pride before it's too late
show me where he practised or preached about the topic, tithe.
Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 4:38pm On Nov 12, 2017
asuustrike2009:

Oga am not misquoting but stating the way it's. No need to argue because Jesus never condemned paying tithe at all.
he never practises it and I won't do it because of that, I will always preach against the falsehood
Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 4:33pm On Nov 12, 2017
asuustrike2009:

It's you that's lost because you have made up your mind to think as you like. I showed you from the Bible in Matthew 23:23 that Jesus wasn't against tithing yet you choose to believe what you think. Now tell me ,did Jesus emphatically say Christians shouldn't pay tithe? No. So why the unnecessary argument. Why do you want Satan to use you to achieve his aim in this end time? Why have you bluntly refuse to subject yourself to learn instead of claiming right? As a Christian whatever you're thought, learned are subject to scrutiny and the best teacher is the holy spirit not just your Bible. Whatever you don't understand ask him to explain instead of studying the scriptures like story book.
stop quoting Mathew 23:23, you don't understand the message there, you are interpretating It to suit your ego
Religion / Re: Anti-tithing Thread by betterABIAstate: 1:23pm On Nov 12, 2017
SAVIOURJESUS:
who told you Jesus didn't practice tithing? Do you know that Jesus fulfilled the whole law? Jesus didn't break any law including the law of tithing.
show me where Jesus also gave burnt offerings in accordance with the law

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