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What's the difference btw Abdu rushins grail message and amorc?

Abd-ru-shin and His Grail Message have no trace to any existing Movements on earth. As the Work implies, "In The Light Of Truth", It explains the Will of God which manifest as Adamantine and Incorruptible Laws of Creation such as: The Law Of Reciprocal Action, which Jesus talked about as (sowing and reaping). The Law Of Attraction Of Homogeneous Species, Jesus also talked about it when He said (birds of a feather flog together). The Law Of Spiritual Gravitation, the so-called misunderstood rapture....and many other Laws operating in God's wonderful Creation.
The Grail Message is the continuation and completion, also, a consolidation to the Mission of Jesus Christ in the World of Matter.
It is That which Paul in his writings refered to as: "That which is perfect"!
It is what Jesus meant when He said to His disciples in John16:12-15 thus: "I have yet many other things to say to you, but ye cannot bear them now; Howbeit, when He, the Spirit of Truth is come, He shall guide you into all truth and show you more things to come...etc.
The Grail Message is obtainable in major book shops and Grail Centers world wide so, you can get a copy and examine It.
It does not bring a new religion and is intended as a torch to guide every serious seekers into all truth about God, Life, Creation and Existence. It is addressed to earnest seekers only! For only such shall find.

Amidst all the chaos and puzzling questions which no religion nor sciences on earth hold the answer, There's only one source that holds the answers to all questions.
The Grail Message!
www.grailmessage.com

With your IQ test whatsoever, you yourself are highly misled! Jesus said: "Ye shall know the Truth and It shall set you free"! TRUTH! This indeed is what is lacking and therefore why we are experiencing all the troubles in the World. Truth! No religion nor sciences on earth is in any way near It. Misunderstanding and misinterpretation are what you find in all religions in the place of Truth. With all what you people are saying here about white deity and whatsoever, you are misleading yourselves, all that you people need is the knowledge of Creation and the existing Adamantine and Incorruptible Laws of God operating in all Creations. From the beginning of Existence there has never been a time when God left men comfortless and without guidances. At the beginning the people then had no need whatsoever for Messages, they had recognition of the Elemental Beings Whom they refered to as gods and goddesses Who gave them instructions that led to peace and successful life at that time. These Elemental Beings are Creatures of God and could only lead them to the knowledge of the existing Laws of God. In the course of false progress man decided to over cultivate his INTELLECT therefore gradually disconnected or closed themselves against those Elemental Beings, as a result of which envy and hate started crawling into the World of Matter. At a point out of the mercy of God, He started sending prophets with Messages of warning, yet mankind out of over cultivation of their intellect that resulted in spiritual death, therefore the fall of man and the setting in of hereditary sin, which alone granted Lucifer full access into the World of Matter, still refused to heed the warnings of the prophets. As a result of the fall of man, humanity as a whole was at the verge of utter destruction if a mighty hand was not stretch forth to help. For this reason just because of the few who were good, God decided to sever a Part of Himself, a Part of His Word and Love and incarnated It in the body of flesh and blood(Jesus) so that with His Unsubstantiate Power He could bind the power of Darkness and bring help to humanity in the Word of God which Jesus Himself was and is. He brought the word of salvation and at this point, the Darkness was afraid of loosing all Its gribs on humanity and so decided to make use of the willing tools whom through them, the Darkness could again raise His head, accused Jesus wrongly and put Him to death. This the Darkness succeeded but before then, the Word of salvation has been brought. Again, Jesus Himself knew that the people of that time were not so spiritually matured to understand aright all that He taught them, out of love He prayed to the Father for another to come when humanity must have spiritually matured to teach them in a language they will understand. And He told His disciples in John16:12-15 thus: I have yet many things to say to you but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit, when He the Spirit of Truth is come, He shall guide you into all truth and show you more things to come... He obviously told His disciples that He did not complete His mission on earth and that another was coming in His name to complete it. He called Him Who was to come the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, the Son of Man. Paul in his writings called the teachings of Him that was to come: "That which is perfect" because all of them who wrote the bible only knew in parts. Here is where misunderstanding and misinterpretation crept into Christianity because (1) they misunderstand the mission of Jesus thinking He came solely to die so that His blood can wash away their sins... False! Jesus cited in many parables to prove such belief as false; He said to the Jews who claimed to be children of Abraham that Abraham would not do what they were trying to do, trying to kill a man that has brought them the Truth, Who never did them any wrong. In another occasion He told the parable of a Man who gave out His vineyard to labourers, it came a time when He was to get what was due to Him and He sent His servants but only for those servants to be beaten and sent away empty handed. Finally He sent His Son thinking they would respect the Son when they see Him, yet they gathered and put the Son to death. He asked what the people thought the Father would do to those labourers. And finally on the cross, He prayed an intercessory prayer: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". If the dead of Christ was a necessary one why didn't He pray prayers like: Father bless them for killing me so that my blood can wash away their sins? Thoughtlessness on the part of Christians! He even added thus: "Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap". Now let me open your eyes, the devil tricks you people to be pleading the blood of Jesus because he knows according to the Laws that he who pleads the innocent blood is as guilty as those that killed Him, because pleading it means a direct support of that bastard crime committed against the Son of God. (2) Lucifer blinds the heart of the Christians from understanding that the Son of God is not at the same time the Son of Man because God is not the same as Man. The concept of the terms "Son of Man" simply means; That Son of God through Whom man came into existence! Am sure this takes your mind back to the story of creation as written in the bible. "in the beginning the world was without form and void and the (Spirit of God) went through the surface and God said, let there be light!". Hence the Holy Spirit the first to come into creation before every other thing including man who seems to be so dear due to his spiritual nature, and the Holy Spirit Whom through man existed became indirectly like the Servant of man because the whole of Creation including man anchors on Him, for this reason Jesus said that sins committed against Him cannot be forgiven, hence the Son of Man. He is the Third Personality together with Jesus forming the Divine Godhead, hence the Holy Trinity. Jesus is not coming back! The Son of Man that was to come had come and gone and as the world could not recognise Jesus so were they unable to recognise Him. And they did to Him as they did to Jesus because the world never appreciated the Truth and therefore would not harbour any Messenger from God. We are now standing in that predicted dreaded Last Judgement where the whole world is undergoing great purification, flushing away all that oppose the Will of God through natural and man-made disaster so that the One thousand years of Peace(Millennium) that's waiting at the corner can be ushered in. Any manner of questions are highly welcomed! You can as well add me on Facebook.com/bsjay4all or @bsjay1 or bbm 2324C8E7

Again, you people should stop belittling God by calling churches "house of God". God and church are never the same. Churches are built and set up by human beings and therefore cannot be termed as house of God. If they are operated in the right way it would be rightly called "a place of worship of God". The earth we are living in is but a very small part of the House of God. Creation as a whole is the House of God! Service to God are the things you do in your neighbourhood, the help you give to the less privilege ones, taking care of those flowers and trees in your surroundings, observing the Laws of God and live accordingly, which you stand to reap abundantly if you do them out of love from your heart because as it is written, what you sow is what you reap, whether good or evil. It is there in the bible when Jesus was addressing those on His right hand side thus:...when I was hungry ye gave me food to eat, when I was in the hospital ye visited me.....etc. He never mentioned church nor tithe and offering. Church work is never God's work! True love, giving and forgiving could in a way be considered as part of God's work cos these are His Will. Churches are business places where those who set them up make their earns meat, no service to God is to be attached to it. Creation is the House of God, churches are men's business centers!

What a senseless question! Has anyone ever seen God descended to any church to collect money? No! Tithes and offerings are tricks of false pastors, prophets and priests that Jesus said would come at the end of the age to rob their members to enrich themselves. They are robbers who don't care about the welfare of their victims but their money. Religions are the most useless and sharpest tools organised by Lucifer to cause chaos and commotion on earth. The only service one can offer to his God is by recognising the Will of God and live accordingly. Love thy neighbours as thyself, give to those who ask of you." Whoever bears within himself a firm volition for what is good and strives to give purity to his thoughts has already found his way to the kingdom of God, all else shall then be added unto him". Words of Abd-ru-shin! Churches cannot help anyone in any matter. Man must fight for himself!

I am a Nigerian and I quite agree with you guys. Religion has made Africans especially Nigerians to be so mentally lazy, empty minded and blocked headed. They can quote all the portions of the bible in order to support their indolence but have no faint knowledge of those words they quote. No wonder Jesus said: My people perish for lack of knowledge! Religions are the sharpest tool Lucifer has used to cause commotions on earth. Churches are built here and there not because they are leading people to God but as business empires where the pastors and priests rob them by means of tithes and offering tricks to enrich themselves and also gain public influence and authority over those members who blindly and wantonly surrendered themselves to their power. They easily pick up stones to do away with what is beyond their comprehension, they pass judgement and call it names immediately. Out of shear indolence of their spirits, they are expecting the second coming of Jesus, poor wretched human beings! Please when you guys are talking about Africa don't generalise the flaws to all Africans because they are so many enlightened ones here. But soon sheeps will be separated from goats in no distance time, when all religions and churches must be scrapped away from earth surface.

It is so sad how so many of you use good intentions to pave your way to eternal destruction. It is sad indeed! The person making this sort of blasphemous write-up is in a very sorry state. You unfortunate and deluded Christians have so dragged the Image of Jesus to mud, forcing it to the same level with you wretched human beings.
Very soon your eyes will be opened and you will at last realise how thoughtlessly you made mockery and blasphemed against God. You do all of these in order to attract more customers/members to your church so your purse can be enlarged, you dig your spiritual graves by so doing.
If you'd known this Jesus aright, you would be afraid of calling His name at all much less associate Him in such a destructive testimony.

Why are you guys deluding yourselves with acquired knowledge which benefits you of nothing? Neither science nor religion is of any great benefits to man.
You speak of time yet have no faint knowledge about time except what sciences has offered you which is in no way near the truth.
Take for instance your own self. You exist in all eternity unchangeable but only your form(physical body) which is animated by the YOU standing in creation undergo changes. You are born as baby, grow up to an adult, grow old and die, these are the processes of your changing form yet, the man in you(your spirit) standing in creation remains the same, not old nor a baby.
So it is with Time. Time is eternal. It does not change but Its forms change! We cannot speak of real Time here on earth cos only Its forms are what we experience on earth which is bound to change. For this reason Jesus said that a thousand years is like a day over there... Time stands still and we walk into It to pick our wants. Someone spoke about the Astral world and associate it with Time. You are nowhere near the Truth cos the Astral world is the nearest to the physical earth and therefore as inferior as the earth. It is a place where all departed souls from earth step feet first and can still hear and see things going on on earth although not so conscious of what is happening based on the conditions of the soul while on earth, ignorance and indolence of his spirit while living on earth. God, Life and Time. You special knowledge to be able to comprehend Them.

I really do feel sorry for those who are genuinely seeking for the Truth but come to forums like these to ask questions. There are certainly blind people who will feed you with so many lies out of their own spiritual indolence. And if a blind man leads a blind man... Am sure you all know what will be the outcome. The problem is that the world is afraid of KNOWLEDGE that can lead them to the TRUTH! And so, what they cannot comprehend they pass judgement and call it names. And they are quick to casting stones. What I tell my fellow enlightened one is, don't bother casting pearl before swine cos even the Gods themselves fight in vain against stupidity. Leave them alone to sleep quietly in their spiritual slumber and indolence. In their pseudo-knowledge and conceit, they believe that the death of Christ on the cross served as means to wash away their sins when Christ sternly said: "Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he reap". The difference which lies between them and the enlightened ones is that they accept and sing the name of Jesus while the enlightened ones seek for true knowledge about the Bearer of the name which alone also lies the difference between wisdom and foolishness, hence the parable of the ten virgins. Seek and ye shall find; this wise admonition of Christ have they rejected and find it convenient to cling to blind and empty faith that pays them no real benefits. No wonder Jesus made statement like: My people perish for lack of knowledge! They call the adherents of the Grail Message, members of Amorc, Freemasonry and others devil's worshippers, same way they called Jesus Himself prince of the devil! Leave them alone for already we are standing in that Last Judgement that the bible talks about yet, no Christian on earth takes cognisance of it nor the predicted signs. They are foolishly and ignorantly expecting the second coming of Jesus; what a pity! Jesus talked about the coming of a Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, the Son of Man, and they mistake Jesus the Son of God to be at the same time the Son of Man, thereby equalling God with Man. Foolishness! The meaning of Christianity simply is Thoughtlessness and Misunderstanding! Afterall not even the disciples understood Him in many things He said. Leave them alone!