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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 2:32pm On Dec 18, 2013
rigormortis:

mohamad is a daughterfvcking idol worshiper who hoodwinked gullible fellows into worshipping his family idol by copying Christianity and Judaism to suit his blood thirsty nature and claiming to have a clearer message with his twisted interpretation on the messages contained in the two religion.
fact.

Be civil and debate in a grown-up manner. Your insults are un-called for. Please watch your language

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 2:30pm On Dec 18, 2013
SHAAWA

Mohammed never honored them, infact he even as a child he has never took
part in their yearly celebrations. He had to visit there once as child
on his way he decided to rest and fell asleep till it was all over.

Ah Ah now - why such lies? I have quoted authoritative sources from Islamic historians and scholars such as Ibn Isaq yet you conveniently turn a blind eye.

He never believe them to be his gods, that was he will to the mountains
to meditate. He will at the sky and said those idols in the Ka'aba are
sculptured by men they will never be able to create this.

Yet it is the same Kabbah that every muslim is encouraged to go to at Meccah and kiss and worship. It is the same Kabbah that muslims bow to and pray. Have you been in the Kabbah? Do you know what is in it?

Devil was mentioned in the bible does it mean Jesus/christians honoured the devil?

The devil was mentioned and each time he was mentioned; it explained what he did. The devil tempted Jesus 3 times and he no where did it say the devil deceived Jesus Christ. Jesus rebuked satan and said, get thee behind me Satan. The explanation that the Quran gave for Mohammed enforcing the worship of the 3 goddesses was that Satan deceived him. How can Satan deceive the last and greatest of prophets?
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 2:23pm On Dec 18, 2013
Infoman51

The marriage between prophet Muhammad and Aisha was consummated when Aisha was matured for marriage not at the age 6-year.
She was 9 years old when Mohammed, a 54 year old "prophet" slept with her; are you saying a 9 year old child is matured enough for marriage?

I have already asked you and your other gullible Christian folks that you should give me evidence in your bible that marriage below 18year is sinful but none of you is able to give me such evidence.

You asked me and I told you; the Bible doesn't give an age - It doesn't state it. However, there are no prophets in the Bible - non whatsoever where any prophet married a 6 year old child and slept with her.

If you can't find it in your bible that so called under age marriage is sinful then you dont have basis to condemn it.

I can't find the word internet in the Bible yet I use it everyday as part of my work. I can't find Aeroplane, yet I get in one when I want to travel great distances. So, you have no point.

Islam supports marriage between man and woman regardless of there age differences so far both man and woman are physically and intellectualy fit for marrige and the man seeks the consent of the lady and his parent.

You are right here and that is why 7th century, cave like Arab mentality of marrying children is plausible to individuals like you smiley

Islam is not like Christianity that encourages celibacy which makes these christian celebates to be satisfying there sexual urge by secretly abusing several young girls and boys in there domain. which religion will you prefer, a religion that seeks your consent before marrying your daughter or a religion that secretly sexually abusing your daughter in the name of celibacy?

I am not against arranged marriages. I am against marrying children and having grand-father men sleep with babies. You and I are having this discussion because a Senator in the federal republic on Nigeria is divorcing a 17 year old and marrying a 15 year old. The clash here is of one between our civil laws and Islam and also against common sense. Attributing abuse of young boys and girls in the Catholic church is not a Christian teaching. Please show me in the Bible, where Christians are taught to do such? You can bring it up as evidence but it falls short because the Bible doesn't teach it. Secondly, do you know how many cases the Catholic church is facing for such abuse. It is the same Catholic church that you conveniently believe when they tell you the age of Mary smiley

Every false allegation you made against islam I have given you the corrrect answers for it but the verses I have been given to you to prove my point in your bible none of it you are able to disprove

1. Saying Mohammed married a child is false - I asked you, can you give your 6 year old daughter to a 54 year old man to marry? You haven't answered me

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 12:37am On Dec 18, 2013
Infoman51: I have already gave you the comprehensive rebuttal of such false allegations, if you are ready to learn read and digest it so as to clean your brain from the poo you read from anti Islamic sites. Paul message is contradictory to Jesus message that is glaring in the verses I pasted to you.

What can you teach me Bros. You are blind because of your religious leanings. You refuse to condemn a man that sleeps with children. You refused to answer if you will give your 6 year old to a 54 year old man. You ignored every Quran verse I provided and said you addressed it smiley

It's only God Almighty that can reveal himself to you.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 12:12am On Dec 18, 2013
Infoman51

WOW - SO THE ENTIRE QURAN IS LYING? CHA CHA CHA CHA CHA CHA! One of the reasons I left a religion that:

1. Allows it's messenger marries 6 year old children
2. Doesn't know when he is deceived by Satan or not

You can reject the story all you want, it doesn't change history. I pray the Almighty God reveals himself to you
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 12:05am On Dec 18, 2013
Infoman51

Copying and pasting others opinions about the Bible and Christians have been going on for ages. Please present 2 contradictions on what Paul taught and what Jesus taught and I will address them. In the same way, please answer the above I have quoted from one of the most authoritative sources on Islam Ibn Ishaq regarding how Mohammed endorsed the worship of the 3 goddesses and later changed his mind
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 11:45pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: Surah 53:21-25 What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God hassent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to Godthat the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong.from above verses 21 to 25 It clearly condemns the deity of these idols

Fir your history, read: The complete text of Muhammad's episode with Satan is found in writings of the most ancient Muslim historian, Ibn Ishaq.2 The text follows with its footnotes. (T. is an abbreviation for the Muslim historian, at-Tabari.)

The Life of Muhammad

[b](sc. reconciliation) to his people, put upon his tongue ‎‎'these are the exalted Gharaniq 1 ‎whose intercession is approved.' 2 When Quraysh heard that, ‎they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way in which he spoke of their gods and they ‎listened to him; while the believers were holding that what their prophet brought them from their ‎Lord was true, not suspecting a mistake or a vain desire or a slip, and when he reached the ‎prostration ‎3 and the end of the Sura in which he prostrated himself the Muslims prostrated ‎themselves when their prophet prostrated confirming what he brought and obeying his command, ‎and the polytheists of Quraysh and others who were in the mosque prostrated when they heard ‎the mention of their gods, so that everyone in the mosque believer and unbeliever prostrated, ‎except al-Walid b. al-Mughira who was an old man who could not do so, so he took a handful of ‎dirt from the valley and bent over it. Then the people dispersed and Quraysh went out, delighted ‎at what had been said about their gods, saying, 'Muhammad has spoken of our gods in splendid ‎fashion. He alleged in what he read that they are the exalted Gharaniq whose intercession is ‎approved.'‎

The news reached the prophet's companions who were in Abyssinia, it being reported that ‎Quraysh had accepted Islam, so some men started to return while others remained behind. Then ‎Gabriel came to the apostle and said, 'What have you done, Muhammad? You have read to these ‎people something I did not bring you from God and you have said what He did not say to you. ‎The apostle was bitterly grieved and was greatly in fear of God. So God sent down (a revelation), ‎for He was merciful to him, comforting him and making light of the affair and telling him that ‎every prophet and apostle before him desired as he desired and wanted what he wanted and Satan ‎interjected something into his desires as he had on his tongue. So God annulled what Satan had ‎suggested and God established His verses i.e. you are just like the prophets and apostles. Then ‎God sent down: 'We have not sent a prophet or apostle before you but when he longed Satan cast ‎suggestions into his longing. But God will annul what Satan has suggested. Then God will ‎establish his verses, God being knowing and wise.' ‎4 Thus God relieved his prophet's grief, and ‎made him feel safe from his fears and annulled what Satan had suggested in the words used ‎above about their gods by his revelation 'Are yours the males and His the females? That were ‎indeed an unfair division' (i.e. most unjust); 'they are nothing but names which your fathers gave ‎them as far as the words 'to whom he pleases and accepts',‎5‎ i.e. how can the intercession of their ‎gods avail with Him?‎

When the annulment of what Satan had put upon the prophet's tongue[/b]
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 11:40pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: Surah 53:21-25 What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! These are nothing but names which ye have devised, - ye and your fathers, - for which God hassent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire! - Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord! Nay, shall man have (just) anything he hankers after? But it is to Godthat the End and the Beginning (of all things) belong.from above verses 21 to 25 It clearly condemns the deity of these idols

Hahaha, you need to read your Quran more Bros. Let me take you on a learning curve:

When Muhammad and his community came under severe persecution, eighty-three of his followers who had no protection emigrated from Mecca to Ethiopia, taking refuge in the ancient Christian country, Abyssinia.1 Under increasing boycotts and pressure, Muhammad went through a time of weakness and compromised with the Meccan pagans by acknowledging the existence of three pagan goddesses alongside Allah: Lat, Uzza, and Manat.2 The Arabian goddesses are mentioned in Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22.

When the inhabitants of Mecca heard Muhammad's confess the importance of the ancient goddesses inside the Ka'aba, they immediately revoked their ban on him. Those who had immigrated to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) started to return home after hearing Muhammad's confession and his acceptance in Mecca. But when they arrived, they were shocked to hear that Muhammad had retracted his confession and admitted that he had fallen prey to the whispering of Satan. Thus, today Islam considers Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22 are related to the time when Muhammad spoke the the Satanic Verses

THE QURAN SAID MOHAMMED WAS DECEIVED BY SATAN FOR SUGGESTING MUSLIMS SHOULD WORSHIP ALLAH'S DAUGHTERS

In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake, alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God. But later on Allah abrogated those Satanic Verses with new revelations and instructs his prophets with new verses. According to Islam, Allah permits such demonic inspiration to test weak believers and to cut off those with hardened hearts.

Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth): Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53. Yusuf 'Ali's translation


The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were unable to distinguish Satan's voice from God's voice, then could there be verses in the Qur'an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were really from Satan? Maybe much of the Qur'an is Satanic in origin, in spite of Muhammad's conviction that it was entirely from Allah.

The Qur'an clearly states that Muhammad spoke in the name of God and that he said things that God had not commanded him! Next, he charges that all the prophets of God voiced Satanic statements! According to the holy law of God, Muhammad ought to have been put to death as a false prophet! According to the Holy Scriptures, if a prophet spoke anything in the name of LORD that was not from Him, the prophet must be put to death! Muhammad spoke in the name of Allah and then admitted that he had really spoken the words of Satan.

This is what the Bible says to false prophets: But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. Deuteronomy 18:20 (NIV)

So, we see that Mohammed actually endorsed the worship of 3 female deities and later said he was deceived by Satan to do that(I don't know how a holy prophet can be deceived by satan). So Bros, it's in your Quran oh!

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 11:27pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: no Mr dump, Jesus wasn't the founder of Christianity, Paul is the founder of Christianity there is nothing like Christianity during the time of Jesus. what Jesus preached is in Contrary to the basic belief of Christianity. evidences for this better truth is glaring in your bible.

Christianity means Christ-like. It means, living like Christ did - THAT IT ALL IT MEANS; nothing else. Paul didn't invent Christianity, Paul never taught anything contrary to what Jesus taught. It's only muslims in the entire world that hold such views.

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 11:25pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: you are just making mere lies without giving prove or did you mean that because Quran made mentioned of these three idols and also condemned them mean Islam honour these idols, that mean to you Islam also honours divinity of Jesus because Quran mentioned and condemned it. if you have such wrong impression then am sorry for your slowpoke reasons.

Really, the Quran condemned them - please show us Bros.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 10:29pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: the catholic are the origin of Christianity they know more of Christianity than new founded non orthodox christianity sects

Hahahahaha - Then why didn't they write Mary's age in the Bible then? You are so daft. Jesus Christ is the origin of Christianity, not Catholics. NA WA FOR SOME PEOPLE OH!
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 10:19pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: he had already answered you by bringing references from catholic's books

Bros, the Bible is not a Catholic book smiley. If it was, the Catholics should have written Mary's age in the Bible - THEY DIDN'T.. There is NO E BIBLE where it mentioned Joseph or Mary's age. So, all these attempts are outside the Bible.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 10:15pm On Dec 17, 2013
naira2009:

The bible was written in the old days so why are you still following what you find there? Why do you give tithes? Why do you sing Abraham's blessings are mine? Why do the Jews still observe the Passover? Why do churches celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
My friend airplanes fly, the computer works marvels because people did not throw away what their fathers learned and discovered. Instead they built upon it. History, science , mathematics etc!!! Marrying a 14 year old virgin was part of the Jewish tradition.

WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO SHOW US FROM THE BIBLE WHERE MARY WAS 14. When Aisha was 6 years old when she married Mohammed, the Hadith was clear; we didn't go to any encyclopedia to explain it - SHOW US IN THE BIBLE WHERE MARY WAS 14
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 10:08pm On Dec 17, 2013
naira2009:

Show me in the bible where Masada is. The bible is just one library of information. Other libraries (books) give information. Have you heard of Josephus the historian, or Pliny or Constantine. Is Constantine in the bible? Yet he is a very important figure in Christendom. The bible says "My people go into captivity because of lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6 Isaiah 5:13.

Obviously you are not following the commandments of God because the bible says "Give attention to reading, to exhortation to doctrine. 1 Timothy 4:4. If you gave attention to reading you would know that most all of Church history comes from the Catholic Encyclopeadia

Since you CAN'T ANSWER IT - YOU SIT BACK AND KEEP QUIET. You are here quoting Bible verses that has nothing to do with Mary age. PLEASE SHOW US WHERE MARY WAS 12-14 WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS?
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 10:07pm On Dec 17, 2013
SHAAWA:


Al uzza and Manat are idols, you just answered yourself that they are pagans arab's gods not muslims.
The very idols he destroyed and remove from the Ka'aba at the conqest of mecca. The very same
pagans that engaged him to wars.
Try and read about the Jahiliyya period, mecca before islam. Just read with open mind.

Why is Mohammed paying homage to them? His tribe worshiped these idols and he did as well. Why does he have them in the Quran, why is he honoring them?
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 10:05pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: this verse didn't condemn polygamy as sinful give me an unambiguous statement in the bible that said it is sinful, just a single verse that said if you marry more than one wife you are a sinner or you will go to hell just like it is said fornication is sinful.

Stop playing stupid, we are not talking about polygamy here, we are talking about child marriages and the marriage to one person alone
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 8:10pm On Dec 17, 2013
abbeysteph: You ve really made my day wit your adequate n courageous responses 2 die hard jihadist on ds thread eg shaawa,informan and d not so informed herbscure.All d teachings of ds muslim can be very evil at times,I remember vividly in my secondary sch days at alimosho grammar sch:anytime we went 4 d jumat prayer alh abesin d cordinator some of d things he alway preach is hatred he always tell us that david oyedepo ask some alfas n imams to do blood sacrifice wit cows during d foundatn laying that's y winners chapel raji oba is always crowded wit people nd me been d financial secretary of mss our org is koboless n all we do is appeal 4 fund 2 purchase mat n kettle 4 ablution,my thoughts is alwz like if all wat dis man keep tellin us is true y can't we do d same in dis our small jumat mosque and let it be crowdy just like winners wich will bring mor fisebilillai but as time goes on I find out dat all na wash with no iota of truth bottom line is tank gudness I left them 2 continue wit dea mediocrity.I mean if allah is truely mighty how humans sud kip fighting his wars as d case in d quran abeg enlighten me more if una care oooo

The truth will ALWAYS prevail smiley
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 7:48pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: your claim that you are former muslim has been exposed as lie since you wrongly asserted that we worshipped 3 idotary daughters and black stone in mecca, you don't need to lie to defend the flaws in your religion. in Islam it is blasphemy to believe that God begot children. Quran said in Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:"Say: He is Allah,The One and Only."Allah, the Eternal,Absolute."He begets not, nor is He begotten.And there is none like unto Him."[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]. the kissing of black stone is not synonymous to worshipping the black stone or else you also accept that if you kiss your wife it means you are worshipping her. muslims worship Allah the creator of everything including the black stone which is one of the stones use to build the kaaba. if you said you believe in one God, do you still believe in the concept of Trinity, because Trinity means three gods joined together to form one god or are you not among trinitarians that belive Jesus is god? undecided

If I lie, please explain these two verses in this Surah:

Surah (53:19,20) = Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza. And Manat, the third, the other?

Is my wife a stone. Do I travel thousands to miles to Mecca to kiss my wife? Kissing and venerating any object apart from Allah is Shirk - if you don't know that as a muslim, I feel sorry for you. Kissing and worshiping anything else is idolatry and muslims do it every-time they go to Mecca. Is Allah in Mecca? Is Allah in the Kabbah?

Why are muslims kissing it? Why do they travel to kiss this particular stone? Why can't they go to Ogun and kiss all the stones there or to Jos and kiss all the stones there?
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 7:47pm On Dec 17, 2013
SHAAWA

There is nothing like that in the Quran, can you back your claim with a quranic verse?

[quote]How was your day? you were missing all afternoon.

We are on different time-zones

While Muhammad was in Mecca, his followers were few, his movement grew painfully slowly and he, too, felt the pain of estrangement from his tribe. According to early and treasured biographical and historical accounts of Muhammad, authored by competent Muslim scholars (such as writings of at-Tabari and Ibn Sa’d), Muhammad longed for better relations and reconciliation with his community. Thereafter, the accounts continue, God revealed Surah 53 to Muhammad up to and including vss. 19, 20. These two verses read:

Surah (53:19,20) = Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza. And Manat, the third, the other?

I suggest you read the context and history of these verses from the Hadith for more information. These 3 deities are female goddesses that Mohammed pagan tribe worshiped. I will leave it at this for now.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 6:57pm On Dec 17, 2013
SHAAWA:

To start muslims do not believe in God having. Even Christ with his perculiar is not considered to be son of God in islam.

You did not answer my question. Does Allah have daughters as stated in the Quran or not?
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 6:56pm On Dec 17, 2013
naira2009:
Go and read the Catholic Encyclopaedia. Joseph was 90 years old when he married Mary (Virgin Mary) who was 12 -14 years. She gave birth to Jesus when she was between 12-14years

I am still waiting for you to tell us Mary and Joseph age in the Bible smiley. So, you are using Catholic encyclopedia to explain the Bible smiley. People are indeed desperate

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 6:43pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: Mr man, jesus said in the bible that he came to fulfil the LAW but not to abolish law so it is you Christians that are disobeying him by distorting his command in order to satisfy your selfish interests

DO YOU SUPPORT THE CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE BETWEEN A 6 YEAR OLD AND A 54 YEAR OLD MAN?
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 6:31pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: there are strong evidences that proved that those who wrote gospel of new testament are not the disciples of Jesus. that shows you are very ignorant about your religion to have wrong impression that gospels were written by Jesus's deciples

That's not new? Even the Quran claimed Jesus spoke as a baby - an event that is no where recorded in the Bible. Most muslims take the Quran's account of the Bible and they ignore the Bible own account. I find that really really shocking since the very Quran muslims say are the words of Allah has an extra Surah in the Shiite version of the Quran as compared to the Sunni version of the same Quran.
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 6:18pm On Dec 17, 2013
Infoman51: The verses you quoted doesn't prohibit marrying more than one wife. there is no where in the bible that specifically said marrying more than one wife is sinful it rather gave history that some prophet like Abraham practised polygamy

1 Timothy 3:2 = Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach

I hope that helps

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 6:04pm On Dec 17, 2013
SHAAWA:


ROFL and you claimed to be a Muslim before. Allah's daughters from which mother. When Christians visit Jerusalem they also dash billions of dollars to the Jews(staunch enemies of Christ). There is no disease greater than ignorance

Are you denying that Mohammed encouraged the worship of Allah's daughter in the Quran?. Christians go to Jerusalem for historical reasons, they don't go to kiss the black stone housed in the KABBAH and dress in white smiley
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 5:47pm On Dec 17, 2013
pickabeau1:


So you are even female and u are justifying child marriage
Well that is not new.. the mods here support it and call those of us who dont brainwashed

If she condemns it; she will condemn her prophet doing the same to a 6 year old child. That is sacrilege to a muslim

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 5:42pm On Dec 17, 2013
SHAAWA

I know all about JESUS (PBUH) in a purest and most respectable manner and I also know of his miracles which he did by God's permission.

The Jesus you know if the Jesus in the Quran. The Jesus in the Quran has been striped of his deity. He was demoted to a mere man and nothing more. His cruxifixtion is complicated. His death for the sins of the entire world is twisted - the JESUS OF THE QURAN is not the same Jesus in all His glory and power as he is described in the Bible. So, I understand your knowledge of Jesus - I used to be just like you smiley

That was why he always gave GOD the glory. Did Jesus saved himself from Jews? you have not still answer the biblical age limit for marriage.

The Bible doesn't state an age - I told you that before. Jesus died willingly. He was to die willingly, His death was pre-told and fore-told thousands of years before His death. Which is greater, someone that can willingly die and rise from the dead or someone that enjoys killing others but dies of poison and can't save himself?

Moses fought Pharaoh, David fought Goliath.

Cha, Moses never fought Pharaoh oh smiley

Prophets fights back when attacked by enemies. Jesus called Jews men of inequities, vipers adulterous and wicked generations. Flogged and turned the money changers table, destroyed 2000 pigs and you think he will not fight evil with force if I had an army?

I keep asking you - did Jesus kill anyone/human being. All you have said is that killed pigs. That should be a plus for muslims because you don't like pigs smiley. DID JESUS KILL ANYONE?

How many hearts did he won, he couldn't even win his disciples heart.

He won 2.3 billion Christian hearts including mine. I was a former muslim who imagined my good deeds will take me to heaven, who thought going to mosque every friday will increase my good deeds smiley. Jesus the Christ died for me while I was a sinner.

All the your hearts were won by "apostle Paul"(self acclaimed 13th disciple of Christ). A staunch hater of Christ told you guys that Christ chose from a dream and gullibly believe.

Paul was bitten by a viper, a very poisonous snake and shoke it off. He didn't die. Your Mohammed was poisoned by jewish woman and died. So, who is greater and who should any reasonable person study and believe? The "so called" last a great prophet that slept with a child and died of the poison from a jewish woman whose tribe he wiped out? or should I believe the apostle, that poison couldn't affect. An apostle that healed the sick and made the cripple walk? I will leave people with common sense to choose.

God always send angels to his messengers. If resurrection is what made Jesus great what about Patience Jonathan and sister Linda? Please read your Bible well and stick to the teachings of Christ instead of coming here and opening your mouth like Senator Yerima

You go school at all? This statement is pointless if anything at all.

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 5:21pm On Dec 17, 2013
naira2009

@ Judek2
The Catholic Encyclopedia states, “From the age at which Hebrew maidens became marriageable, it is possible that Mary gave birth to her Son when she was about thirteen or fourteen years of age. No historical document tells us how old she actually was at the time of the Nativity.”

I was careful to ask you where in the Bible it said Mary was 12-14 years old when she gave birth to Jesus. So far, you didn't answer the question but WENT OUTSIDE THE BIBLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. Aisha was 6 years old during marriage and 9 years old when Mohammed had intercourse with her; that is taken from your hadith. Please TELL US WHERE IN THE BIBLE MARY WAS 12-14 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS.

Also, “Jewish maidens were considered marriageable at the age of twelve years and six months, though the actual age of the bride varied with circumstances. The marriage was preceded by the betrothal, after which the bride legally belonged to the bridegroom, though she did not live with him till about a year later, when the marriage used to be celebrated.”

Yarns, smiley. Since you can't prove from the Bible where Mary was 12-14 years old. I suggest you SIT DOWN and SHUT UP on this matter

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 5:17pm On Dec 17, 2013
opeyemi@2013

Prophet muhammad(pbuh) died just like other human being because every soul shall taste death, he is not God although he is most beloved prophet of God. He experienced death just like other prophets like moses and abraham etc did experience it.

Mohammed died from the poison of a Jewish woman. He killed her entire family and the woman taught if he indeed was a prophet, he should be able save himself from the poison she put on his food. After all, he killed her entire family/tribe and forced her to cook for him

[b]From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: When Khaibar was conquered, a roasted poisoned sheep was presented to the Prophet as a gift (by the Jews). The Prophet ordered, "Let all the Jews who have been here, be assembled before me." The Jews were collected and the Prophet said (to them), "I am going to ask you a question. Will you tell the truth?" They said, "Yes." The Prophet asked, "Who is your father?" They replied, "So-and-so." He said, "You have told a lie; your father is so-and-so." They said, "You are right." He said, "Will you now tell me the truth, if I ask you about something?" They replied, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim; and if we should tell a lie, you can realize our lie as you have done regarding our father." On that he asked, "Who are the people of the (Hell) Fire?" They said, "We shall remain in the (Hell) Fire for a short period, and after that you will replace us." The Prophet said, "You may be cursed and humiliated in it! By Allah, we shall never replace you in it." Then he asked, "Will you now tell me the truth if I ask you a question?" They said, "Yes, O Abu Al-Qasim." He asked, "Have you poisoned this sheep?" They said, "Yes." He asked, "What made you do so?" They said, "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you."[/b]

Abraham and Moses didn't die like this Bros, so please get your facts straight smiley

Prophet isa(Jesus) too will come back to this earth to exprience it just like any other human being.

Hehe, Jesus died, raised from the dead, ascended to heaven. He is not coming back to die again Bros - it doesn't even make sense for Jesus that is in heaven will come back again to die smiley

It is false assertion that prophet died due to poison, because after he was poisoned he still spent many years on the face of the earth. There are concrete evidences that showed he survived the poison that is a miracle if you fail to admit that.

WHY YOU DEY LIE NOW?

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713


The apostle of Allah sent for Zaynab and said to her, "What induced you to do what you have done?" She replied, "You have done to my people what you have done. You have killed my father, my uncle and my husband, so I said to myself, "If you are a prophet, the foreleg will inform you; and others have said, "If you are a king we will get rid of you."
Ibn Sa'd p. 252


He came out with the help of two men and his legs were dragging on the ground. He was between Al-Abbas and another man [Ali Ibn Abi Talib]."....
Sahih Bukhari 1:11:634

It's CRYSTAL clear from muslim sources that he died from the poison - saying otherwise mean you are LYING bros.

He died according to the decree of God after he has accomplished his mission of spreading the truth message of God.

He died because of the terrible things he did and his death was even foretold in the Quran and it described exactly how he died. As a muslim, I encourage you to read your Quran and Hadith smiley

The wars prophet muhammad(phuh) fought were wars of self-defence from persecution and oppression just like david, solomon and some other prophets fought in your bible, you dont expect me to quote such verses out in the bible, you should have read these wars in the bible or you turned your blind eye to these war verses.

Not all wars Mohammed fought were self-defense Bros. If you want to engage me on this one, I will list each battle for you and why it was fought.

Prophet isa(jesus) would have carried out the same self-defence wars if he has an organised army like some other prophets. That is why in some verses in the bible he made declaration of war preparation for his followers.

Do you have any evidence that Jesus fought and killed anyone like Mohammed did whether in the Bible or Quran? If you can't, then your statement is incorrect and not true

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 4:53pm On Dec 17, 2013
opeyemi@2013:
why is it "original sin" for a lady to marry at the age below 18-year? quote verses in your bible that told us the rightful age of marriage or that said it is sinful for a lady to marry below 18-year of age? I know for sure you cant find such verses in the bible that condemned such type of so called under-age marriage. You just use your common sense to term it inhumane act, why cant you use the same common sense to challenge your belief that 3 gods is equal to 1 god(1+1+1=1, god of father, of son, of holyspirit equals one god). There is nothing spectacular that you were a muslim before you went astray, there are always been ignorant muslims like you that have poor background of islam which made them to go astray but despite that islam remain strong, when ignorant muslims left islam many non-muslims replace them by reverting to there natural religion, islam.

Off topic ignorant statements from a man that has little to nothing to say. If you believe Christians worship 3 gods, then you need a reality check smiley. Since you want to side-step the issue and start talking about the Triune nature of God, I wouldn't engage you. As a former muslim, I was taught and believed that Christians worshipped 3 gods but after "spending time", "researching" and "praying" for God Almighty to open my eyes; I realized that Mohammed knew little to nothing of the Christian faith.

For your information, Christians believe in ONE GOD. If you don't believe it - that is your tea. Muslims are taught that they are true monotheist; I wonder how can that be possible when Mohammed encouraged the worship of ALLAH's 3 daughters. When Mohammed claimed and confirmed that he was deceived by satan. You muslims go to Mecca and dash the Saudi government billions of dollars every-year to go and kiss and black stone; as if black stones done finish for your back-yard. If kissing and praying to a rock everyday isn't idolatry; then I don't know what it is.

Yes, Islam is growing; it's called biological reproduction. One man marries 4 wives, each wife has 5 kids - obviously, they will populate. That doesn't exclude the camels and donkeys you count in the north in Nigeria to give the impression that Islam is growing smiley. There are 1.5 billion muslims and there are 2.3 billion christians. You guys have to marry more wives to catch up smiley
Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 4:39pm On Dec 17, 2013
herbscure02

How do you "christian" married when your master or God did not laid any foundation for you to be married. Did your God ask you to marry? But now your pastor were molested around instead of them to marry d second wife


www.nairaland.com/246478/pastor-arraigned-over-alleged-molest

www.nairaland.com/1023689/70-yrs-old-pastor-use-indomie

Must you show your ignorance all the time. Or are you just blind because of your religious leanings. When youask questions, do you actually do any research or you just sit at your imam's feet and accept anything he says without doing and background research your self. Jesus taught that a man should marry only ONE woman over 600 years before your prophet came and married over 15 for himself. Let's give you some Bible education:

Matthew 19:4-6 = 4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

I don't follow the lives of pastors Bros, I follow the life of Jesus and His teachings. I understand that muslims view Mohammed as the best of persons and venerate his character. However, marrying of 6 year old children is a 7th century cave like culture that has NO PLACE IN OUR TIME AS EDUCATED HUMAN-BEINGS

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Celebrities / Re: Senator Yerima Divorces 17-year-old Wife, Marries Another 15-yr-old by cloudstar: 5:25am On Dec 17, 2013
SHAAWA:


You may call it sick but we never hid it. Iam surprise to hear that to
you common sense supercede religion. When you believe Adam and committed
a sin, God that has power to forgive could not until He sent His only
'begotten son' to die. I am responsible for my own sins, sins are not
inherited Mr. Common sense.

So the Jesus you were asking people to seek for is mere lip service. By their fruit you shall know them.
Jesus cannot fight because he never had army. All he did was to kill 2000 pigs. what was there offence I wonder!

Stop teaching me the concept of original sin in Islam madam - I was a muslim just like you and know more than you can imagine. Here you are talking about Jesus and have left your senator and your prophet marrying under-age girls. PLEASE LEAVE JESUS OUT OF THE EQUATION. It always surprises me why muslims always conveniently quote the bible and go back to Jesus to prove their twisted point yet conveniently deny his cruxifixtion and deity. Jesus taught non-violence, He healed the sick, raised the dead and the Quran even recorded that he created a bird out of clay. Mohammed with all his army, was he able to raise the dead? Could he save himself when he was poisoned? He died from the poison of a jewish woman who's family/tribe he slaughtered but the "so called last and greatest prophet" couldn't save himself.

Jesus willingly died, He fulfilled prophecy. He didn't need an army because His kingdom is not of this earth. He is concerned with the spiritual well-being and the heart of a person and not with their good deeds. He wants to change the heart of a man and woman that will ALLOW THEM FROM GIVING THEIR YOUNG GIRLS TO GRAND-FATHERS THAT ARE 10 TIMES OLDER THAN THEIR KIDS.

I ASKED YOU - IF YOU HAD A 6 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, WOULD YOU GIVE HER TO A 54 YEAR OLD MAN?

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