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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:35pm On Dec 19, 2019
My condolences to all the lefties and liberals who woke up this morning with the realization that Donald J. Trump is still their President. grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:27pm On Dec 19, 2019
wowcatty:
@coluka, your head dey there!
Thanks bro grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:34am On Dec 18, 2019
Secret FISA Court Makes Rare Public Statement, Chastises FBI for Misleading Them

https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf

And some funny characters on this platform were trying to gaslight and claim the IG report found no wrongdoing by the FBI. Jokers!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 8:09am On Dec 18, 2019
wirinet:
More than 700 historians sign letter calling for House to impeach Trump
You mean 700 rabid anti Trump liberal historians? no one is
interested in their biased opinions.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 4:36pm On Dec 13, 2019
Lol, they are already blaming the Russians grin grin grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 9:50am On Dec 13, 2019
Liberal's delusions have collided with reality in the UK and their lamentations have begun. Let the sweet tears flow grin

Congrats Boris Johnson, you did it!!!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 6:01pm On Dec 12, 2019
GalaticHorde:
give me the reference from the report, page and paragraph
GalaticHorde:
okay, maybe you can help with a video recording of the IG's testimony to the senate then, or a verbatim transcript

Read chapter eight of the report,
especially Pages 233 and 234

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 5:25pm On Dec 12, 2019
GalaticHorde:
yes it should have been disclosed, the question is, bias in favour of whom?
Steele's political bias against Trump which the FBI confirmed that as of 2016, he was "desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being the U.S. president."

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 11:42am On Dec 12, 2019
basilico:


Garetz believes that the Crossfire Hurricane was started by the Friendly Foreign Govt official ie Mr. Downer.
The IG can only interview those working at the Justice Dept He is limited in access to the CIA for instance.

How did Mr Downer get to meet with George Papadopoulos?

Enter Josef Misfud. Papadopoulos was working in London He told his colleagues that he was heading to the Trump campaign. They urged him to go to Italy where he met Mifsud. Mifsud told him that the Russians have dirt on Clinton.

Mifsud was connected to Italian and UK intelligence. He was not a Russian asset as Mueller claimed. Mueller is lying.


Going back to London Papadopoulos was invited for drinks by Mr Downer the Aussie ambassador to UK. Stephen Halper , a known FBI confidential human source was behind Papadopoulos going to Italy and also him meeting with Downer.

Note you don't walk in to a pub and meet Ambassadors randomly.This was a setup. By Halper. Downer repeatedly asked Papadopoulos whether the Trump was working with Russians
Papadopoulos noticed that Downer was recording the conversation. Papadopoulos replied that it would be treason to work with Russians. Till today the recording by Downer has not been released . I suspect Durham has got it.


Back to Downer. While a minister in Aussieland he helped funnel the Clinton Foundation a 25m $ donation. He is a personal friend of the Clintons.

Downer then waits two months to report to CIA London office Gina Haspel who then informs FBI that Papadopoulos told Downer while drunk that the Russians had dirt on Hillary and were planning to release it. Then Peter Stroyk the FBI Trump hating lover to Lisa Page
opened the counter intelligence Crossfire Hurricane.

Given that the IG could not question Halper Mifsud etc he could only conclude that the beginning of the spying operation on Trump was OK. He did not question those who setup Papadopoulos.



God bless you basilico, you absolutely nailed it and that's why Durham disagreed with the IG's conclusion.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 11:30am On Dec 12, 2019
GalaticHorde:
or maybe you are just too plain stupid to recognize that "clinton-funded" is not in the report, and steel himself was friends with ivanka and favourably disposed to the trumps as revealed by by the report, the FBI had agents as favourably disposed to the trumps as there were agents favourably disposed to the clintons debunking the FBI deep state pathological delusion, and the FBI wasn't rife with wrongdoings as misrepresentation of evidence to secure favourable FISA ruling to spy on one trump associate doesn't qualify as rife and as usual you cook up an alternate reality to justify the stupidity and crassness of the republican party or should i say trumpican party now as the Republicans we used to know had some modicum of dignity or maybe you're just deceiving yourself undecided

1. Ivanka's association with Steele ended in 2015 and the FBI
confirmed that as of 2016, he was "desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being the U.S. president."

2. The IG did confirm that Steele
was hired by a research firm that was working for and funded by the Clinton campaign

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:28am On Dec 12, 2019
garetz:


After watching the hearing, I think the IG made his case very well. he explained that the laws set a LOW THRESHOLD the FBI needs to meet before launching a counter intelligence probe and they met it and opened the probe lawfully but they now chose to conduct the investigation in a very wrong way. The FBI received a tip from the Australians the Trump campaign might be colluding with the Russians and they correctly opened a probe but they needed a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign and they had nothing to present to the FISA court to get the warrant so they decided to use the Steele dossier which they knew was false information to deceive the FISA court and get the warrant

I disagree, the FBI were more interested in pinning a crime on the Trump campaign than investigating anything and there was clear bias against Trump. They were not incompetent, they were deliberate and knew exactly what they were doing. Just look at all of them today, they're always on CNN campaigning against Trump, they are all anti Trump.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 12:39am On Dec 12, 2019
SEN. Ted Cruz: “A lawyer at the FBI creates fraudulent evidence, alters an email that is in turn used as the basis for a sworn statement for the court that the court relies on. Am I stating that accurately?"

IG HOROWITZ: “That is correct. That is what occurred.”

This is insane!!!

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 11:38pm On Dec 11, 2019
Well that's it, the Fake news
media refused to cover it but I
did my best wink grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 11:02pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz tells Sen. Kennedy he "agrees completely" that someone at FBI needs to be fired.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:31pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz tells Sen. Leahy he did not find evidence of political bias in starting Crossfire Hurricane.

Horowitz notes it's reasonable for people to look at the 17 errors against Page as merely gross incompetence and not obvious bias.

My opinion: I find it hard to believe FBI made 17 'Errors' and all the 'Errors' went one way--against Page/Trump. I've read of many many MANY dozens of "mistakes" by FBI/DOJ officials and every single one of them was in a direction harmful to Trump. What are the odds?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:31pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz saying that his bias claim was just about Priestap opening, not about all the other issues.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:26pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz reiterating that anyone who touched the surveillance of Trump campaign is not vindicated by his report, contrary to claims from media and other Democrats.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:25pm On Dec 11, 2019
Kennedy says after reading 15% of report, it made him want to heave. After 25%, he felt like he was dropping acid. Couldn't believe how bad it was. Horowitz agrees! shocked

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:23pm On Dec 11, 2019
Hirono wants Horowitz to say he's upset at Barr for describing the use of electronic surveillance and confidential human informants as "spying." He declines to do so.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:23pm On Dec 11, 2019
Sen. Hirono now up. She's trying to get Horowitz to say that the investigation was not started on the thinnest of suspicions, as critics have said. He declines to do so.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:22pm On Dec 11, 2019
Tillis noting that Horowitz received many questions that had nothing to do with his actual report. He seems to be critiquing the Democrats here, since they seem to want to avoid talking about the demonstrated abuse of the FISA process in the anti-Trump probe.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:20pm On Dec 11, 2019
Tillis noting how Steele was supposedly fired as a source but that the FBI continued to receive his information and do so via a DOJ conduit repeatedly. A dozen more times after his firing.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:18pm On Dec 11, 2019
Blumenthal: "[FISAs] are renewed because they are producing useful information, correct?"

Horowitz: "Or they should be producing useful information."

Blumenthal: "...they were producing useful information, correct?"

Horowitz: "I'm not sure that's entirely correct."

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:17pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz describes FBI/DOJ behavior outlined in his report as "pretty bad."

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:15pm On Dec 11, 2019
Blumenthal tries to get Horowitz to say that FBI didn't interfere in 2016 election. Horowitz declines to agree

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:14pm On Dec 11, 2019
Hawley pointing out that the DNC and FBI colluded in this Russia hoax. DNC/Clinton campaign secretly bought and paid for the dossier that DOJ/FBI used, even after it knew that it was complete rubbish.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:14pm On Dec 11, 2019
Horowitz says far more reforms and changes are needed than what FBI Director Wray wrote about in his response letter to the IG report.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:13pm On Dec 11, 2019
Hawley noting that the DOJ/FBI failures were weaponized via leaks to media, who fully coordinated with their sources to perpetuate the completely false Russia narrative.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:12pm On Dec 11, 2019
Cornyn notes that agents practiced in preparation for their intelligence gathering during security briefing. They held mock briefings to help them get info on Trump campaign as they were presenting themselves as merely briefing campaign.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:10pm On Dec 11, 2019
Graham: If FISA court doesn't take corrective action and do something about being manipulated and lied to, they will lose my support.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:08pm On Dec 11, 2019
GRAHAM Notes that manipulation of evidence changed Carter Page's HELP to his country to the opposite. Notes that attorney who doctored that evidence in order to violate Carter Page's civil liberties *also happened to have extreme partisan bias* against Trump.

Graham notes that newsrooms in America share this extreme partisan bias, as reflected in the texts from all these key FBI officials.

Lawyer who doctored evidence texted his worry that his name is on the documents targeting people affiliated with new administration.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 10:04pm On Dec 11, 2019
Now GRAHAM explaining how FBI blatantly doctored evidence and failed to mention exonerating evidence in order to secure a warrant to spy on an innocent U.S. citizen

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