malvisguy212:
do you know the meaning between messiah and prophet?

Messiah is the annointed one while the prophet is the chosen one. Differentiate

malvisguy212:
NO. Why will the Jews kill the one who will save them (according to the quran) the Jews never rejected moses. They are impatient.

And they didn't kill (in fact behead) John the Baptist despite the fact that he was a prophet? The Jew knew John was a prophet and they didn't spare him so what makes Jesus any different.

Scholar8200:
Here you go! He was neither forced, coerced or persuaded! Yes He endured the cross. (that's because going to the cross was not a walk in the park!)
Rather, for One Who had always been in Vital relationship with the Father, death (separation from God due to the sins laid on Him) was an unthinkable source of unbearable sorrow.
Matthew 26:38
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death:

On the cross, this was the only outcry! My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me!

Your submission contradicts:
Luke 18:31-33
31 Then taking the Twelve [apostles] aside, He said to them, Listen! We are going up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written about the Son of Man through and by the prophets will be fulfilled.
32 For He will be handed over to the Gentiles and will be made sport of and scoffed and jeered at and insulted and spit upon.
33 They will flog Him and kill Him; and on the third day He will rise again.

If He was forced or coerced, the verse on calling for legions of angels will be superfluous

He was only unwilling to bear the cross. In mount Gethsemnie he accepted the fact and stop Peter from fighting cos he knew his faith. Yet when he was on the cross he thought he had been forsaken. Christians logic is baffling.

Scholar8200:
It was a trial of faith for he who had received great promises concerning a son from his barren wife. There is no better source of explanation than that written:

Hebrews 11:17-19
By faith Abraham, when he was put to the test [while the testing of his faith was [d]still in progress], [e]had already brought Isaac for an offering; he who had gladly received and welcomed [God’s] promises was ready to sacrifice his only son,
18 Of whom it was said, Through Isaac shall your descendants be reckoned.
19 For he reasoned that God was able to raise [him] up even from among the dead. Indeed in the sense that Isaac was figuratively dead [potentially sacrificed], he did [actually] receive him back from the dead.

Verse 18 was the real sting of the test! That's why Abraham,in verse 19, did not reason that God would give him another child (even though he had others and Ishmael showed he was not impotent) but would raise up the one of whom He had spoken and made such promises, if death had actually occurred.

Moreover, Sarah was 90 (in chapter 21) when she had Isaac and Genesis 23 records her death at 127 yrs meaning the events between Genesis 21 (when Isaac was born) and 22 was 37 years: long enough for Isaac to had grown and Abraham and Sarah to have aged even more and since the promise of a child had been fulfilled, there was no expectation on the part of Sarah to bear any new ones hence the test of faith.(apart from Ishmael and Isaac, Abraham had other sons after Sarah died meaning the trial of faith was particularly concerning the one of whom God had spoken)

All these circumstantial evidence you are trying to conjure shouldn't supersede a crystal clear evidence that Ishmael is Abraham first child and should have the status of THINE ONLY CHILD. The test was if he would be willing to sacrifice his only son. The test would be defeated if he had another son somewhere. Mind you God wasn't testing Sarah but Abraham so don't involve her. I seriously don't know how you put up your defence to this explicit fact.

Scholar8200:

I mentioned humanity because:
John 1:14
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


This is not the first time an angel would strengthen a person in view of a task: Elijah, Daniel, Ezekiel had the same experiences (passages are available on demand). But nowhere in the Bible did angel strengthen anyone to pray; the Holy Spirit does.

this is not a physical agony; something similar happened here:
John 11:38
Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave.
This is still the experience of any real believer today who knows what it means to carry a prayer burden:

Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered


Yes. That was in the same garden of Gethsemane after the prayer, when the soldiers came. It shows He was now ready to face the Cross! Before this time He had said:

Matthew 26:38
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death:

This weight of sorrow was gone when the abductors came. How? The strength received in answer to prayer!

In the end, it all boils down to one thing that "Lord" Jesus didn't wanna die via "let this cup pass over me" but he was forced, coerced or persuaded to take on the cross.

Scholar8200:


The events in Genesis chapter 22 were recorded after those in chapter 21 wherein Ishmael and his mum were sent off:
Genesis 22:1
After these events, God tested and proved Abraham and said to him, Abraham! And he said, Here I am.

A hebrew wrote this:
Hebrews 11:17-19
By faith Abraham, when he was put to the test [while the testing of his faith was [d]still in progress], [e]had already brought Isaac for an offering; he who had gladly received and welcomed [God’s] promises was ready to sacrifice his only son,
18 Of whom it was said, Through Isaac shall your descendants be reckoned.
19 For he reasoned that God was able to raise [him] up even from among the dead. Indeed in the sense that Isaac was figuratively dead [potentially sacrificed], he did [actually] receive him back from the dead.

Verse 18 was the real sting of the test! That's why Abraham,in verse 19, did not reason that God would give him another child but would raise up the one of whom He had spoken, if death had actually occurred.

I actually expected a lot from you than what you typed. So because Ishmael and his mum had left, Ishmael ceased to be Abraham Son? What logic. The language was "thine only son" Gen 22:16 and Genesis 22:12. To further convince you, after the death of Abraham, Ishmael was still the son of Abraham Genesis 25:9 " And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him (Abraham) in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephronmthe son of Zohar the Hittle......"
So thine only son shouldn't be in dispute since Ishmael was the first son.

Scholar8200:
Isaac.

You said Ishmael is the first son and in Genesis when God was referring to the one who was offered for Sacrifice
Genesis 22:16-18
“I swear by myself, declares the Lord, that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son, 17 I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring[a] all nations on earth will be blessed,[b] because you have obeyed me.”
Who is the only son since Ishmael came first? Isaac

Scholar8200:
And each time, He qualified it by saying:

Matthew 26:39
...nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

This sure points to His humanity!

Luke records the following:
Luke 22:43
43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

After this prayer, He was able to say:

John 18:11
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

So Jesus is only human after ally at the bolded. And the angel that appeared came to strengthened him for his death or to pray further? Because in Luke 22:44 (after the angel has appeared unto him from heaven) "and being in agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground". Why was Jesus still in agony after the angel appeared?
John 18:11 was not referring to mount Gethsemane but when they came to arrest him.

plainbibletruth:

1. At the first bolded; can you honestly claim that this is true or are you trying to deceive us? If it is true prove it.
2. At the second bolded; can you really show us this from your Quran so we can know who is stating the truth and who is presenting falsehood.

1 Quran 2:285
Sahih International: The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination."
2. “The ummah (Muslim nation) is agreed that the Messengers are infallible in carrying out their mission – they do not forget anything that Allaah has revealed to them except with regard to matters that have been abrogated. They are also infallible in conveying the Message – they do not conceal anything that Allaah has revealed to them, for that would be a betrayal and it is impossible to imagine that they could do such a thing. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘O Messenger! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not ,then you have not conveyed His Message…’ [al-Maa’idah 5:67]. If anything is concealed or changed, then the punishment of Allaah will befall the one who is guilty of doing these things, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘And if he [Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] had forged a false saying concerning Us [Allaah], We surely would have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might), and then certainly should have cut off his life artery (aorta).’ [al-Haqqah 69:44-46]. One aspect of infallibility is that they (the Prophets) do not forget anything of that which Allaah has revealed to them, and thus no part of the revelation is lost.”
“The Prophets and Messengers may also strive to find the right judgement in the situations with which they are faced, and they judge according to what they themselves see and hear – they do not have knowledge of the Unseen. They may make an incorrect judgement, as happened to the Prophet of Allaah Dawood (David), who failed to do so, and Allaah helped his son Sulaymaan (Solomon) to come up with the right answer in that particular case. Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that he heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘There were two women, each of whom had a son. A wolf came and carried off the son of one of them, who said to the other, “The wolf has taken your son.” The other said, “No, he took your son.” They came to Dawood to ask him to judge between them, and he ruled in favour of the older woman. Then they went to Sulaymaan the son of Dawood and told him what had happened. He said, “Bring a knife and divide the child between them.” The younger woman said, “Do not do that, may Allaah have mercy on you! He is her son.” So Sulaymaan ruled in favour of the younger woman.’ (Reported by al-Bukhaari).

Scholar8200:

The highlighted was said on the Cross, not in Gethsemane:

Meanwhile, Jesus statement in Gethsemane shows He was not praying against dying on the Cross:

Matthew 26:53-54
53 Do you suppose that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will immediately provide Me with more than twelve legions [[q]more than 80,000] of angels?
54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must come about this way?

If He did not want to die on the Cross, why did He not call for the angels seeing He wont be denied?

Before now, Jesus had said:
Luke 18:31-33
31 Then taking the Twelve [apostles] aside, He said to them, Listen! We are going up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written about the Son of Man through and by the prophets will be fulfilled.
32 For He will be handed over to the Gentiles and will be made sport of and scoffed and jeered at and insulted and spit upon.
33 They will flog Him and kill Him; and on the third day He will rise again.


The answer to the prayer in Gethsemane is seen by the angel coming to strengthen.

Mathew 26:39 And going a little further he fell on his face and prayed, saying, "my father, if it be possible,let this cup pass from me". That's the prayer of Gethsemane. Jesus was unwilling to be humiliated and he wasn't referring to any angel for strength.

Scholar8200:

In that order:Ishmael;Isaac.

But God's statement to Abraham concerning Isaac already lays to rest that which you seek to clarify:

Genesis 21:12
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Besides, Isaac,borne by Sarah, was the child of Promise. Any controversy on this?

So we both agree that Ishmael is the first son. Who was offered for sacrifice?

malvisguy212:
the isrealite are a very stubborn nation,and God know this. Even the land they are about to possessed, God say;
"It is not for your righteousness or for
the uprightness of your heart that
you are going to possess their land,
but it is because of the wickedness of
these nations that the LORD your God
is driving them out before you, in
order to confirm the oath which the
LORD swore to your fathers, to
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
( Deuteronomy 9:5)

And in exedus, they are about to begin as a nation, everything was new to them so, at some point they even doubt Moses.but when they become fully aware of the promised, you can see in the gospel how Philip and Nathaniel reacts when they saw Jesus .

Are we not saying the same thing? Despite the fact that Jesus was the messiah they still went ahead to kill him (even though they failed)

Scholar8200:
Okay. Since you believe all the previous prophets, do you agree with this prophesied by Isaiah & Daniel:

Isaiah 53:12
Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great [kings and rulers], and He shall divide the spoil with the mighty, because He poured out His life unto death, and [He let Himself] be regarded as a criminal and be numbered with the transgressors; yet He bore [and took away] the sin of many and made intercession for the transgressors (the rebellious).

Daniel 9:26
And after the sixty-two weeks the Anointed One[Messiah] shall be killed and shall have nothing

The bible is never a good source for me because of so many contradictions. Jesus was aware of these prophesies and he went to the mount Gethsemnie and pleaded with God not to be killed and FORSAKEN . Eli Eli Lama Sabathani. HOW WILL I AGREE WITH THE PROPHESIES OF ISIAH AND DANIEL IF JESUS DIDNT AGREE WITH THEM?

malvisguy212:
you are soo wrong my friend, Jesus DID NOT read any gospel to anybody, the gospel is about him.

Jesus did not speak His own words, but
the words that the Father gave Him (John 8:38-42; 12:49-50; 14:24). His message was not primarily about Himself, but rather the good news that the Father ordained to be announced on earth. So what ever claims in the quran that say Allah gave Jesus a book, is a lie.

Let me tell you the truth, your spiritual knowledge is soo weak, you do not understand anything, it is only God that will deliver you from this spell, angels don't inspired people, it is ONLY the holy spirit that do such.

You said the gospel wasent meant to last for ever? This is the first time I am herring this, can you proved it ? Deep inside you, you know it's a lie. I will provide a verse in the quran that will expos your lie, but first, proved it "the gospel wasent mean to last forever" as you claim.

Re read what you quoted. I was actually astonished with the fact that you said the Bible is from God despite the fact that it didn't originate from Jesus. I never said Jesus was given a book but he was INSPIRED by RUHU LIQUDUS (what the Christians refer to has Holy Spirit and the Muslim to as Gabriel). The actual question are; has the gospel stand the test of time? How many versions of the gospel do we have? Why so many contradictions in the gospel? Why has the gospel been revised by Christians over the years? If the Holy Ghost is the one inspiring the writers of the bible, who ain't Jesus, then you can as well be inspired and add or subtract from the bible? I can go on and on but let me stop here and wait for your answers.

Scholar8200:
But there was no specific reference to a Seed in Whom all the Nations of the earth will be blessed in Ishmael's case! Bro, there is nothing confusing there! God specifically told Abraham that in Isaac shall your seed be called!

Let's clarify some issues. Who was Abraham first child between Isaac and Ishmael? Who was offered for Sacrifice? Let's start from there.

NumberOne2:


Do they have a choice? When their fighter jets and weapons are from US.
Are there not Muslim Soldiers in the Nigerian army. Does this change the fact that Boko Haram kill in the name of Islam. I thought you had a brain? Who are Boko Haram?

Let me debate with the intelligent Christians. Please take the back seat.

NumberOne2:


Okay you have a brain.
See the Aljazeera poll that 80% of over 40,000 Muslims voted YES in support ISIS.
http://www.aljazeera.net/votes/pages?voteid=5270

It was posted on NL:
https://www.nairaland.com/2385798/al-jazeera-poll-destroys-myth#34860767

I am sure even if the "one billion Muslims" were polled, the results will barely change.

And who are the coalition fighting Isis http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-ten-arab-nations-join-us-led-coalition-against-isis-1465106

Scholar8200:
What would you say to this:

Genesis 26:1-4
And there was a famine in the land, other than the former famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went to Gerar, to Abimelech king of the Philistines.
2 And the Lord appeared to him and said, Do not go down to Egypt; live in the land of which I will tell you.
3 Dwell temporarily in this land, and I will be with you and will favor you with blessings; for to you and to your descendants I will give all these lands, and I will perform the oath which I swore to Abraham your father.
4 And I will make your descendants to multiply as the stars of the heavens, and will give to your posterity all these lands (kingdoms); and by your Offspring shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, or by Him bless themselves,


God reiterated the same promise to Isaac! This has nought to do with Ishmael! God said to send away Ishmael because Isaac was the promised child and the one by whom the promises will be fulfilled!

Genesis 21:12
12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

That these matters were established milleniums before your religion vis a vis your claims of this applying to Ishmael raises serious concerns!

And also the son of the bonds woman, I will make a nation also, because he {is} thy seed. Gen. 21:13. The Bible is not a reliable source bro because it's just too confusing.

Scholar8200:
@ Confirmer, do muslims see Jesus as the promised Messiah?

Of course. You are not a Muslim if you are in doubt of Jesus the son of Mary (pbuh) being the promised Messiah of the children of Israel (Mathew 15:24)

Scholar8200:

Jesus came in fulfilment of God's promise to Abraham:

Genesis 22:18

18 And in your Seed [[e]Christ] shall all the nations of the earth be blessed and [by Him]
bless themselves, because you have heard and obeyed My voice.

He came through Israel and they, being the biological descendants, had that first benefit but after His Passion, all that believe (and receive Him as their Lord and Saviour) from all nations are blessed!

In the quoted verse, was Jesus mentioned or was inferred? A similar and better verse was revealed in the Quran about the the offspring of Ismael when the Holy Mosque was being erected by Abraham and Ismael.

NumberOne2:


There is a difference between sin and offence. Sin is to GOD. Offence is to MAN. Dont mix them up.
What sin did women and children in the market commit to be BOMBED by a Muslim?

Does Islam not know that if a man refuses to become a Muslim today, he may change his mind tomorrow?
Why kill him today because he refused today? Is that a wise action?

Funny analogy and the over one billion Muslim worldwide are bombing innocent women and children. Stop reasoning like you have no brain.

Malvisguy212 you are running everywhere opening new threads and losing out in the end. Don't you get tired? Whenever the Quran is talking about the Gospel, it's actually talking about the inspiration received from God via Ruhu liQudus (Holy Spirit) or Angel Gabriel. Do you guys think Jesus was reading the Gospel to the Children of Isreal from a book ? Jesus message was meant for the Israelites ALONE and the Gospel wasn't meant to last forever and that's why it's corrupted. God is capable of protecting is book like the Quran has been protected from any addition or alteration for CENTURIES. The bible was reviewed by scholars as early as in the 1900s and alterations and additions were made. There is only one universal Quran unlike the Bible. The contradictions in the Bible is so much that Nairaland won't be able to contain it. Salam.

malvisguy212:
you know the messiah more than the isrealite, infacte you know there history more than them!!! The quranic verse I quote agreed, the Jews accept Jesus as there messiah and still went all the way to boast, "whe have killed the messiah" does this make sense to you? The Jews know the meaning of messiah "anointed one"( one who will save them) but they went on and kill the ONE. Keep on deceiving your self.

Did the Israelite not worship the Calf despite the fact that Moses was known to be a messenger? They were transgressors and many of the messengers sent to them, they killed.

plainbibletruth:
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 If a prophet talks about ONE that is greater than himself should that prophet be held in higher esteem than the ONE to whom he points? 

Is the messenger greater than the one who sent him?

Mohammed revealed the status of Jesus. That status is clearly that of a person who is presented as UNEQUALED and EXTRAORDINARY. Not even Mohammed matched him as SINLESS, as THE MESSIAH, and as one that is still ALIVE today in royal magnificence, waiting for His second coming!
You don't deny any of these FACTS, do you?

Do you know believe the Quran is from God or you are only cherry picking on a few verses that suit you? We don't make distinction between the Prophets and we believe in all of them. Adam was Fashioned by God the Almighty Himself and that doesn't make the best. Noah preached for 950 years and that doesn't make him the best. Jonah survived the belly of the whale and that doesn't make him the best. Moses spoke with God directly and that doesn't make him the best. Jesus woke the dead (by God's permission) and that doesn't make him the best. Solomon controlled the whole species (human, jinn, birds etc) and doesn't make him the best. All the prophets of God are sinless. All the other prophets were sent to either their family, community, race, or country but only Muhammed was sent to not only humans but to the entire living and not living things.

malvisguy212:
the Jews reject Jesus because they thought the messiah will fight war for them and win, All the kings in the bible fight war and they are expecting Jesus to carry on with this tradition of fighting battle and winning. But Jesus came to call his sheep. But here what the quran say:

Surah 4:157: And their saying:
Surely we have killed the Messiah,
Isa son of Marium, the messenger
of Allah; and they did not kill him
nor did they crucify him, but it
appeared to them so (like Isa) and
most surely those who differ therein
are only in a doubt about it; they
have no knowledge respecting it, but
only follow a conjecture, and they
killed him not for sure. (Shakir)

Does this make sense to you?If you read this account in its entirety from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, you will understand who they are that are saying, “Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah.” According to the
Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this. Think!
Would the hostile Jews call Jesus the
“Messiah” when they have rejected him
as the Messiah? It must be remembered
that the Jewish religious leaders even
objected when Pilate wrote a title saying, “King of the Jews.” (John 19:19-22). It is, therefore, illogical for the Jews to boastfully say that “we have killed the Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah in the first place. And if they did recognize him as the Messiah – as this verse implies – would they have killed him?

The Isrealites were witnesses to the miracles that Jesus did (by the permission of Allah) so they knew for a fact that he was a true messenger. Its one thing to know the truth and its another thing to submit to it. Many were Prophets sent to the Isrealites that were killed Quran 2:87.

jcross19:
is there any salvation in islam? Let me coach you, do you know why you are praying for your dead anabi, mohamMAD?. When he was dying he said he did not where is soul is going after death, he was talking to aisha on a sick bed. Then tell me why would he doubt is life after death after he promised you 72 horus to bleep huh why can't you reason with a man that says in john 14 vs 3 says: and if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also maybe where I am. Please think wise and choose wise, you destiny is in your hand, hell or paradise choose for yourself.

You are pained. Truth and falsehood differs.

Jagoon:


We don't need mohamed's pathetic tongue to confirm how great Jesus is. Jesus greatness had been confirmed for over six hundred years before the earth became cursed with the coming of mohamed. Mohamed merely included plagiarised stories about Jesus into his filthy quoran to give it some credibility. It's a strategy all professional con men adopt to gain credibility.

Continue wallowing in falsehood after the truth has been manifested. Even the Jew saw Jesus as an illegitimate child and it's only Islam that recognises Jesus (pbuh) as a prophet of God.

plainbibletruth:


It's astonishing but perhaps the best word is 'shocking' that many of them venerate normal, ordinary, commonplace, run-of-the-mill individual whereas one who is presented as unequaled and peculiar is hardly given attention, recognition and reverential respect. 

You guys are simply pathetic. On whose tongue was the Quran revealed that Jesus was given the astonishing reference? It was this same Prophet Muhammed (Peace and Blessing of Allah be on him) that it was revealed to about the Status of Jesus and that Mary. Prophet Muhammed Mother was not even mentioned once in the Quran and Mary has a Chapter in the holy Quran. Is it too hard for you to reason?

malvisguy212:
good, so actually God can have a son without a consort? Very God. Calling Jesus the son of God is not actually a bad thing.

You are becoming redundant and boring. The truth has been made manifested to you. It is now your choice to follow the truth or to follow your vain desire. Death is true. Good bye

malvisguy212:
do you want to know who Jesus really is ? Read here. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%201:15-23

You are in no position to tell me who Jesus is. He is one of the messengers of Allah sent to the people of Israel born of the Virgin Mary. He spoke in the cradled and he was neither crucified nor forsaken (Eli Eli lama sabathani). He was raised up to the heavens and he will be back in the end of days to clarify between us (Muslim) and you (Christian) and he shall enforce the one and only true religion acceptable by Allah.

malvisguy212:
The Qur’an asks a question in Surah 6:101:
“How can He have a son when He
hath no consort?”

Observe carefully how the carnal and
physical traits of humans are attributed
to God in this verse. No consideration
whatsoever is given for the divine infinite nature of God. Just because men on earth cannot have sons unless they
cohabit with their wives, so the Qur’an
blasphemously concludes that God, too,
cannot have a son unless he cohabits
with a wife.

God Almighty was able to create the vast universe and every living being in it out of nothing, he is unable to produce a son for himself without a wife. If God could actually cause Mary to produce a son without a husband, why would it be impossible for him to similarly produce a son without a wife? And with the quranic
verse you quote, does this not mean "Allah ask a question" but later answer himself? He cannot have a son without a consort.

It isn't difficult for him. It only need "be" and it shall "be"and God would need no Mary to carry the baby.

malvisguy212:
who is Melchizedek? Is he God? Provide scriptural proof.

Confirmer:

If not having a father qualifies Jesus to be a son of God[/b]then [b]Melchizedek shall be God of God. Since he has neither a father nor mother and not even a genealogy according to your bible.

The bolded words is just trying to let you see that Jesus wasn't begotten by God.