VomeSchakleton:


Lol! I actually don't blame him, it's sad seeing your ethnicity getting swallowed into extinction.

loll that's your goal, you want Fulani to forget what they are and want them to be assmilated so hard to others.
Fulani are in so many African countries, they will never extinct

VomeSchakleton:


Lol! I have few worries and what some Mauritanian thinks doesn't make the list. I'm just pointing out that your points are better addressed at your pullo YouTube uploaded. That's the true irony.

Waou I didnt know people would get mad just because I said Fulani and Hausa are not the same, which is the truth.
I never said Fulanis are better or vice-versa.

Baayanjida:
This thread is about languages not Ethnicities, keep your ignorance at base.

Hausa are not tribe but ethnicity and mixed with everything around them for over 2500 years. But when it comes to Nigeria, you cannot distinguish Hausa from Fulani . In Agadez or Zinder Niger, you cannot distinguished Hausa from Tuareg, they all mixed to the point you cannot tell who is who unless you are from there or live there . What matter is Hausa culture that overtaken every small culture around it.

African Americans are ethnically related to Africans, but culturally related to Europeans than Africans.
Fulani only keep their phonetype when they are nomadic, but once settled in cities, they tend to mix with hosted the population. That's how humans migration works for over 100,000 years.

From your point of view, the same can be said for all Africans people, no one is 100% something.
Even if people intermix with each others, an identity still exists.

VomeSchakleton:



It's ironic the YouTube user who uploaded the video is a pullo man. Go and tame your brothers before you try to educate others.

This comment is not adress to you,

What's your problem with what I said ? Is there any insult or something ?
Only speaking the truth, it bothers you obviously

VomeSchakleton:



I don't see the irony in that. Besides, how do you know they are mixed or not? Hausa has a very diverse range of ethnicities. And I don't even think he was talking about physical beauty rather than the song and language, please read the whole thread to understand.

I'm talking about the video mentionning "Hausa Beauty"
The other guy said they are part fulani, part hausa
The whole thread is about Hausa language
You should read my comments carefully and the guy is clearly talking about physical appareance

mrMeen:


They did not just look likE fulani, they whole lots of them are part-fulani,part-Hausa..guy if u really want to knw about Us,then tour Nigeria or else u will remain clueless about us.

The clueless one is definitely you.
It's not because some are mixed with Fulani and Hausa that Hausa-Fulani is only one identity. Not the same ancestors, not the same history, not the same language, etc...
And physically when both of groups are not mixed at all, we clearly see they are not the same.

The video's title is "Hausa Beauty", then they should not use Fulani or the mixed ones otherwise is a lie

VomeSchakleton:


That's because some of them are.

That's what I was thinking, very ironic using fulani or the mix ones to talk about hausa beauty

mrMeen:


They did not just look likE fulani, they whole lots of them are part-fulani,part-Hausa..guy if u really want to knw about Us,then tour Nigeria or else u will remain clueless about us.

You use Fulani or mixed Fulani to talk about Hausa beauty
Why dont you show Hausa alone ?
You try so hard to make like Hausa and Fulani are the same, they are not dont try to fool people, that all !

Excuse my ignorance, can anyone tell me why Hausa language is considered Afro-asiatic language ?
Thank you

Baayanjida:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKEH6lliAA

Some of them really look Fulani on that video

mrMeen:


Guy.... It dnt matters if their are nOt Hausa-Fulani in Mali,Gambia,Senigal or wherever. Atleast they exist in Nigeria:p and that matters to us Hausafulani in Nigeria.

Another thing.It's either Hausafulani Beauty or Fulanihausa Beauty in my cOuntry..lol

Guy.... It dnt matters if their are nOt Hausa-Fulani in Mali,Gambia,Senigal or wherever. Atleast they exist in Nigeria:p and that matters to us Hausafulani in Nigeria.

Another thing.It's either Hausafulani Beauty or Fulanihausa Beauty in my cOuntry..lol

Plus you said wherever they are in Africa, that's why I said Hausa-Fulani doesn't exist outside Nigeria
You contradict yourself

mrMeen:


Guy.... It dnt matters if their are nOt Hausa-Fulani in Mali,Gambia,Senigal or wherever. Atleast they exist in Nigeria:p and that matters to us Hausafulani in Nigeria.

Another thing.It's either Hausafulani Beauty or Fulanihausa Beauty in my cOuntry..lol

Guy.... It dnt matters if their are nOt Hausa-Fulani in Mali,Gambia,Senigal or wherever. Atleast they exist in Nigeria:p and that matters to us Hausafulani in Nigeria.

Another thing.It's either Hausafulani Beauty or Fulanihausa Beauty in my cOuntry..lol

Well it's still Fulani Beauty or Hausa Beauty, dont invent a new group that doesn't exist !!!!!!!!!

mrMeen:
Hausa-Fulani where ever they are in Africa they stand above any group in Beauty. ;DHausa-Fulani where ever they are in Africa they stand above any group in Beauty.

Hausa-Fulani doesn't exist outside Nigeria
There is no Hausa in Gambia, Mali, Senegal etc...
It's either Fulani Beauty or Hausa Beauty

Fulaman198:


The women he posts aren't even representative for a lot of Nigeria. That's why I had a great laugh.

right hahaha

Here some others

Why are you obsess with Horn Africa vs West Africa ?
There is beautiful and less beautiful people in every group !
The Horners girls you post are cute but not that gorgeous and the Nigerians girls you post dont represent the whole West Africa, they have a whole different looks in others countries.
So when you say Horn Africa vs West Africa is bullshit ! It will make more sense if you say Afar girls vs Soninkes girls for example but anyway this kind of "competition" is stupid !
Here some beautiful girls you find on the West (Mali, Guinea, Senegal, Gambia, Mauritania)

Nowenuse:



My brother, sometimes communities may have dual identities and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Go to northern african countries like Morocco & Algeria, many arabized berbers both claim an arab identity and sometimes a berber identity.

Talking about Arabized Berbers, they do have a real identity issue. They wanna be more Arabs than real Arabs themselves. They even insult and bash Non Arabized Berbers like if they are not Berbers lol. When you say to them, you are not Arab but Arabized, they gonna get crazy. Anytime I have a discussion with them, they dont want to say they are Arabized but at the end, they admit North Africans are Arabized Berbers but only culture matter.
Sometimes it can be ignorance. My friend is Kabyle (a berber tribe) but she thinks she is Arab just because she is Algerian. She doesnt speak Arab nor her parents but yet she thinks she is Arab.

People should not forget where they are from

VomeSchakleton:
The president also doesn't speak Fulfulde but to me l, all fulanis, including the so called Hausanised fulanis are the same to me. Doesn't matter to me because to me you can't be hausa if your ancestors weren't, because Hausa is an ethnicity, not a culture. Someone calling them hausa just because they don't speak Fulfulde to me is far fetched and baseless. They are NOT hausas.

I kind of agree with you.
The Senegalese President is Fulani but he was born to a Serer place, around Serers and speaks Serer. So he considers himself Fulani with a Serer culture.
He said he was able to speak Fulfulde too just because his grandma taught him. His wife is Fulani by mother and Serer by father.

I thik that's the same for the Hausanized Fulanis they are Fulanis with Hausa culture. They are not Hausa originally.

Fulaman198:


We Fulani (Fulbe) or Fellata in Arabic that speak both Fulfulde and Hausa consider the Fulanis in the Northwest as mainly Hausa. They call themselves Hausa-Fulani, but I just call them Hausa. They don't have any element of Pulaaku.

It's really sad they no longer speak Fulfulde, I hope they'll remember their language is very important.
Personally I consider themselves still Fulanis but completely Hausanized just like the Arabized Berbers of North Africa. The last ones are so arabized, they dont want to have something to do with Non Arabized Berbers. They completely reject the berbers side of them and I guess that's not the case for Hausanized Fulanis, they still remember they are originally Fulanis.

Nowenuse:



My friend. As a Nigerian, from the central part of the country. I'd tell u that there is one reason why hausas and fulanis are usually classified together as one. There is a reason for it and whosoever will tell u that there is no reasonable or justifiable reason for this is lying to u.

Fulanis in Nigeria actually do not have their own defined homeland. They came much later to Nigeria and their settlements thrived on islamic conquest.
The larger population of fulanis settled in Hausa land and took over power in hausa land by the islamic jihad launched by Danfodio which he claimed he wanted to purify the corrupt kind of islam the hausas were practicing then.
As time went by, the hausas gradually linguistically and culturally absorbed most of the fulanis in their midst. This is where that unity, oneness and joint identity came from because majority of the fulanis in Nigeria now became linguistically and cuturally hausas.

Although we have some other fulanis in Nigeria who did not settle in Hausa land, rather they settled to the south eastern parts of hausaland where u have a lot of minority groups. They conquered and displaced some of these minority groups and founded large emirates and towns in these places. These are the fulanis of northern nigeria who managed to retain their identity, culture and language of which FULAMAN is one of them. These fulanis are mostly under the North-eastern part of the Nigeria and they are fewer compared to the hausanized fulanis in the North-western part of Nigeria.

So i now believe u get the reason for the identity HAUSA-FULANIS in Nigeria?
Majority of d fulanis in Nigeria were hausanized, and their population was too large to just be ignored and brand all of them as hausas. Also, the hausanized fulanis considered it a prestige to retain their identity somehow even though they lost their language n culture because of the influence they have all over northern Nigeria as rulers of most emirates and the sultanate.

Thank you for this interesting answer.
So they are hausanized fulanis just like arabized berbers of North Africa.
These groups are still 2 groups, not one. As I said before people can identity themselves with both of groups but tribes are not the same.
You can say, I have 2 cultures Hausa and Fulani but saying my culture is fulani/hausa is wrong. It's very misleading for people.

Fulaman198:


Correct and Mauritania

Except Mandingo, they aren't in Mauritania.

Do Fulani that only speak Hausa in Nigeria consider themselves Fulani or Hausa ?

Fulaman198:


Oh ok got it, you are a combination of many things

Yes all of these ethnicities are represented in Senegal.

Fulaman198:


Are you Fulani (Pullo)?

Mandingo, Peul, Maure Darmanko and Arab. That's why I said Senegalese/Mauritanian is more simple.
I know more about Mandingo and Arab sides but I'm trying to reconnect with the 2 others.

Fulaman198:


You should have some friends teach you how to speak Wolof (assuming you are Wolof). Start watching TV shows in only Wolof, etc. I think it's very important that Africans know their respective languages.

You are right but you forgot, I'm not Wolof that's what people assume when you say you are senegalese lol, it's like Senegal=Wolof

Fulaman198:


Nonsense! Tufiakwa!

You do realise that Islam has been in the West African region for almost a thousand years more than Christianity.....(800 to be exact) so what you are saying is nonsensical at best. Some of the greatest African empires were all Muslim (The Songhai Empire, the Kanem-borno Empire, Sokoto Caliphate, the Tukulor Empire, The Mali Mande empire, etc. etc.) If they were as colonised as you say, why did they maintain their respective languages and ways.

With that said, it's ridiculous if you think we should bow down to Yoruba Muslims. For what purpose? Exactly what Wisdom will we be gaining? Enlighten me.

Exactly !!!
I saw so many non Africans muslims criticize Africans muslims for being muslims. They dont know Islam arrived in West Africa especially the the sahel region almost at the same time as Maghreb.

Fulaman198:


Interesting, Well it's the same in Niger and Northern Nigeria. Hausa is the main language, but others like myself can still speak Fulfulde. Just like I'm sure les Peuls in Senegal and Mali can still speak Pulaar/Fulfulde.

I didn't know Hausa is the main language, you're lucky to speak Fulfulde because me I was born in France and grew up there, I can only speak French unfortunately.

Fulaman198:


Senegal is actually in a very interesting state. You know of Wolofinisation right? Wolof is becoming the main language that everyone speaks taking precedence over Pulaar/Fulfulde, Serer and the few Mande languages in Senegal.

You are right ! Almost everyone speak wolof, some people forget their native language and even their culture.
The same thing happen in Mali. Bambara is the main language so people mostly speak bambara even if they are not from this tribe.
French colonization highly participate to the wolofinisation of the society.

Fulaman198:
If curi00 is from Senegal/Mauritania, chances are that he/she is from Fouta Tooro leydi. Fouta Tooro extends from Senegal into Mauritania.

Fouta Toro in Senegal, Mandingo as well
Maure Darmanko in Mauritania

tpiah2:


What you are saying is you want Fulanis in Nigeria to be separate from the Hausas.

not at all!!!!!!!!!!!!! where I said that ? dont interpret just read the words
All I say there is no Hausa/Fulani as one tribe. Hausa and Fulani are both unique groups and people can identify with both of them without make it one.

VomeSchakleton:


you cant even begin to fathom how much that word buggers me!

and seriously? hausas claiming fulani? thats a new one. besides, thats gotta be awkward, we dont even look like you.

and there are dozens of muslim ethnic groups in nigeria, like kanuris, nupes, igala, etc but youre right, everyone just calls them hausa, heck if youre from the north youre hausa. its annoying AF! worst part is when they dont correct them.

anyways, what matters is at least we know we're not the same, no matter how much they try to cram us together.

Every tribe has a distinctive look so of course we dont look alike but sometimes it doest not mean anything because even inside a tribe people are different.

I would say we are all Africans with our differences. Knowing your tribe is good as long as there is no division among people.