BBIA:

wine has always been an alcoholic drink. it is called wine because it is made from fermented grape juice. check every resource available and it will state so.

The first thing about you is you're trying too hard to sound smart in an area you have nearly zero clarity. Nothing in the Greek etymology for wine, "oinos," indicated alcohol.

There is ancient word for juice from fruits (which is not a modern day invention). The closest to it is what Jesus used, "FRUIT of the vine." He literally used the word drink of this FRUIT...

Virtually every ancient resource that mentions "fruit of the vine" projects it as FRUIT. The greek submission there is "gennēma ampellos" which literally indicates "vine fruit." It's so precise! But you're incoherently trying to cook up a point from nothing.

non alcoholic wine became possible only in the late 1800’s when a dealcoholization method was first developed to remove alcohol from wine so that even people who don’t take alcohol could drink and the idea was business driven

For it to be wine, it must be first fermented grape juice.

Are you doing a skit here? There has always been non alcoholic wine or "light wine." Who taught you this bradadash??

First, there was such a thing as non fermented grape juice (referred to as 'grape fruit'; which is what Jesus took). See a quote on it from ancient Roman statesman, Cato: "If you wish to have must [grape juice] all year, put grape juice in an amphora and seal the cork with pitch; sink it in a fishpond. After thirty days take it out. It will be grape juice for a whole year"

It was called grape juice. In Jesus' words, it's"fruit of the vine. Some call it wine still. But it's unfermented!

You spew ignorance with such boldness! Are you just trying to be funny?

stop trying to defend your ignorance and learn.
Na your type the mislead people in the name of christianity with your own bias opinions.

Now, this baffles me so much.

Me that I am taking a Biblical anti-alcohol stance, I am the one misleading people?

You, the freely drink alcohol ambassador, you are the one teaching truth. And this truth is so important to you that you consider it the great commission, "go into the world and drink alcohol."

Man, like I said, there's no support for your drunkenness in the Bible. Read the thread again to begin with.

If you would be an alcoholic, don't build it on Bible doctrine. There's no place for it in the Bible.

BBIA:

Jesus broke bread and drank wine, how hard is it for you to comprehend that.

he turned water to wine too. that too you will try to modify to suit your own fanatic doctrine…


oya continue.

I normally wouldn't indulge. But this fallacy that "wine" has to be alcohol is disturbing.

Jesus called the wine He drank "fruit of the vine." Matthew 26:29. You know what a fruit of the vine is? The words literally mean fruit from vine (those little grapes). That is grape wine. Not Hennessy.

If you want yo drink alcohol, do so with your bold mind. Don't try to justify the indulgence with this fallacy. Please...

BBIA:


drinking alcohol and drunkenness are different things oga.


I am a christian and I know Jesus drank alcohol.

the last time was at the last supper.


I don’t know where you fanatics get your own doctrine coined from.


drinking alcohol has never been a sin before both God and man.

but drinking until drunk can lead you to sin and should be avoided.

Next time don’t come and embarrass yourself like this.

If you want to drink alcohol, free free to indulge yourself in your drinking and drunkenness.

It's either you lack a proper command of English language or you're just rude.

I am a "fanatic" (you know what that means??) for explicitly going through the scriptures in response to an error. But you trying to validate your drunkenness or "drinking" out of all is there is the ideal believer? How absurd!

Antipob777:
Fellow Nairalanders, join me thank God for this giant Rat I killed in my farm today.

Its indeed the Lords doing as meat is very expensive in the market now and God blessed I and my family with this giant Rat.

I am going home later in the day to do the needful on the Rat and use it to prepare a good Egusi soup.

Indeed what God cannot do does not exist.

My God is a miracle working God.

I blame nairaland mods for allowing just any junk on the fp.

You mean anyone can just go online and lift any picture and just build a lie around it to generate dilly attention.

Expanse2020:

Does it hurt you to hear the truth....

What truth? Have you typed any here?

epainos:
There is no need to curse each other because of a debate that has been unresolved for centuries. Even Aristotle wrote about it.

In most of the Bible verses that are subjected to debate, the word "oinos" was used. And the meaning is unfermented or femented grape. Because of this, scholars keep using ideas, assumptions, and scenarios to prove their stand. But in the real sense, no one can prove it or disprove.

Good luck!

Thank you. Not cussing, really. I could have indulged him/them with reasonable debates. But the robotically dogmatic nuisance they constitute is mind-blowing. Not one you can engage in a sane elenchus.

Imagine abruptly mentioning a six year old thread as though it was written yesterday. With no courtesy at all. Weird and sincerely baffling!

Expanse2020:

Most of these guys love to lie and do cover up
Let call a spade a spade...
Lying at this tender age when you Full become pastors nkọ...with uncontrollably lies

Funny thing is that people like you only go about seeking validation with pointless fruitless exchanges online on religious threads.

You have no concrete positive impact anywhere in real life. No desirable lifestyle. Just online noise that amounts to nothing.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, I am happily Jobless. But since when did it become a crime to be jobless or a reason to ignore the Truth of Jesus Christ to be proclaimed?

Your particular issue seems to be that your ego rejects the idea that you were wrong then and are probably even wrong now of the person of Jesus Christ. That is the only logical reason for these continuous attacks on my person instead of the message upto even this ment

Rest. Or keep mentioning if it helps you feel sane.

Ps: there's no attack on your person. You are the attack here. Anyone with some reasoning can see that you're being a silly nuisance here!

Kobojunkie:
Pointing out that contrary to the claims of the illogical, Jesus Christ — the same who later on told His followers that it is not what they eat that makes them unclean — ate and drank and was seen by even the Pharisees doing so, is fruitless argumentation? Yikes! I guess to you it is better to continue propagating lies against Jesus Christ instead.

I know you're jobless. But just stay off my threads and mentions, going forward...

Kobojunkie:
Look, your religious ideas contradict the God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ, whom you lot pretend you follow. It is almost as though your every idea is steeped in nothing but logical fallacies. So, as far as theological dissonance, the is what is the purview of the religion of Christianity itself - a religion built on lies that pretends an alignment with that which it contradicts.

Stop being a jobless busybody scrolling through nairaland threads to arouse fruitless arguments. Find a life! Note my monika too and stay off my mentions.

Kobojunkie:
You are joking abi?

Anyway, you never admitted anywhere in the thread that you were wrong and that you no longer hold that train of thought — the idea that alcohol is some sort of sin —, hence the reason why I responded, informing you that you were wrong in claiming Jesus Christ never drank alcoholic drink while He was here on earth. I am not certain why the comment infuriates you.

P.S. I don't keep monikers in memory given that a lot of folks switch monikers on here often. I mostly respond to comments as I see them and move on from there.

Like I said, you are not alright... Your theological dissonance will not drag me six years back. Take your joblessness and idleness out of my thread.

Thats all you live for: empty, mundane squabbles online with no worthy fruit outside this space. Get the heck outta my way!

Kobojunkie:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

As expected typical churchian retort! Attack the messenger and not the message.

My Monika should be familiar to you. I have severally indulged and engaged your theological dissonances.

But I stated why this is weird. And this isnt the first time you do it. A six year old post. So I should jump into the train of thought I left six years sgo to indulge you? Don't you use your grey matter?

ValCon888:
A lion was killed for being a lion. That is what I know.

Y'all are just forming woke. A human being died, but you're more concerned about the animal. And its disgusting and silly! But do some thinking.

There are several reasons why killing the lion is crucial. On a very basic basis, it has taken a human life. It has tasted human blood. A basic understanding of wild animals is that they would intensify hunting any specie they've once "overpowered." A lion that has mauled a human being becomes a high risk at that zoo irrespective of how monumental their safety procedures are.


On the philosophical level, man is at the apex in the hierarchy of all species. All species exist for man. It's not the other way around. It's only proper that an animal that has held its own over man (especially in man's territory) has breached nature. It's an "anathema" in man's world...

Stop being woke for cheap social media likes that just likes whatever sounds new... Those liking the posts are equally as mentally drab!

Kobojunkie:
Stop chomping down on the lies of your gods of men. It was never a sin to drink alcohol in the Land of Canaan where Jesus Christ lived and grew up with His family. The Law of Moses pretty much specified Alcoholic drinks as being acceptable in the land. The only people commander by God not to drink wine were those under a Nazarite vow and this for the duration of the vow. So wherever you got the notion that Jesus Christ didn't drink Alcoholic drinks is not Scripture but your particular brainwashing given you by your religious overlords.

Are you crazy or something? Or you are just not normal upstairs? What kind of human being is this?

You would disturb my mention for a chat that's six years old! Don't you find that weird? Are you that jobless and empty-headed? So I should jump back to streams of thought of six years ago to indulge your mental slowness?

Jokerman:


I'm talking of transport and ease of accessibility.

Just imagine I get to Ikeja, will enter bus to Ọgba, then take bus to Abule Egba??

You don't have to go to Ogba. You'll get abule egba directly from computer village. Just by that new bridge.

Dailyprintsng:
He will overcome all the trap, Trump is my man

They're really attacking him o? They just want to get rid of him before the election. But they will fail!

Kinzo0917:
This page go reach 30 pages today just like arsenal matches

Lol. E go pass

madridguy:
After he broke some Baba rule as if na you be the baba.... Leave story, na hard drug dey worry him... Let his friend take him to Yaba left side

SAY NO TO HARD DRUGS

As per na you be him dealer abi?

Some naive, porn-watching BOYS think its fun to be raped.

Newsflash! It's traumatic when anyone at all manipulates you sexually against your will. Your mind does not want it. You are scared for your life. You are awkwardly helpless. It's not a porn scene. It's not fun! It's an assault.

naija4life247:


If you are mentally stable, then you will know that you are also a slave to the Jews

You're assuming he's a Christian shey?

How are Christians slave to jews 🤣 The same Jews that they've converted most of them to christians?

You're trying to force a counter attack that's inexistent. Instead of you to think through the sham of your religion. One built on lies, plagiarism, deceit, and violence!

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It is high time Christians accept the fact that NO Moslem will ever condemn anyone for killing an "infidel" who insults the Prophet or anything sacred to their heart.

Wake up! You already know what that means, right?

Some of them actually do o. Though very few, some still believe their book teaches them not to kill or maim. Those are people I want to engage. I'm assuming the poster I quoted is one of such. Though this is unlikely as they are so so few.

CoronaVirusPro:
Stop copying news from propaganda bots!

Anyone familiar with twitter knows that, Azzat Alsalem is a propaganda machine!

Shelve the propaganda narrative. You people should actually address the blood hungry excessiveness of your fellow moslems... Like this hasn't happened in the north severally? Your fellow adherents brutally taking the life of another human being based on allegations like this...

I never thought or imagined that religion would facilitate terror. But Islam does. And this isnt propaganda or islamophobia. It's glaring!

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Mikel actually fulfilled his potential in terms of the position he played. He never had the traits to be a successful number 10 - for one, he was too big and slow, and in that position it's best to be small and agile.

The problem Mikel had was he was very good at a style of play that was not yet seen as important while he was playing. These days a player like Mikel is what most coaches would love to build their team around.

Even for Nigeria he excelled best by being the organizer from deep areas.

Classic no 10 role wasn't about pace though. It was more about trickery and ability to spot chances. If you watched the likes of Kaka, Pato, Pirlo, etc., you will get. Mikel was that kind of no 10. You couldn't dispossess him, and he could create a chance from nothing with precise passes. He lost that at Chelsea.

spagettiluv:
ibos are the power engines of Ibadan
Without them,Ibadan for don collapse since

You lots just like to excite yourselves...

How does this make sense to you??

Emma1Oj:
Lagos will collapse the day Ibo pple decide to leave.

No other tribe investment in Lagos can withstand that of Ibo pple

😂 I am not the type given to tribal tirades. But this is too delusional!

Lagos is lagos because of the colonialists. They set the tone for its development long before 1914. It's just an advantage they handed to the yorubas.

Igbos and other tribes come to lagos to make money because of its development. Its not the other way around. If you leave your Ikeja, lagos stall today, hundreds of others will compete for your space. And it'll always be like that for a while.

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