this is actually a Nigerian joke with the name switched around. Its obvious the average Zimbabwean is not as smart as a Nigerian. There are no civil servants in Zimbabwe, only Mugabe servants.

maybe he's praising mammon.

~Lady~:

How does that mean that the Popes are successors of Peter? Because Christ said that the gates of hell shall never prevail against his Church. Meaning it will last for ever.

the problem is you "understand" a lot of peripheral hubris but fail to understand the real nitty gritty details. Yes Christ made that statement but the real ques is WHAT DID HE MEAN BY "CHURCH"?

If you carefully read thru the bible (you know that one you "compiled", no where is "church" refered to as an organised form of religion. You hear stuff about the "church in wilderness" (Acts 7:38) . . . that was in the old testament when the Jews knew nothing about salvation, grace and were still under the law. Romans 16:3-5 talks about the "church" in the HOUSE of priscilla and Acquilla . . .

Do you really understand what the term "church" really means?

~Lady~:

You don't appoint a leader to a position and expect the position to die off when the person dies. If so then Christ didn't plan on his Church lasting till the end time.
It only makes sense that when he positioned the apostles he planned on having successors to those positions

Someone else brought this up earlier, your posts are full of man's fallible "wisdom" and very little to do with the gospel at all. According to man's wisdom, a church can only last as long as you have a "leader"?

~Lady~:

hence why today we have the Apostles who are priests, missionaries, bishops, archbishops, sisters, and so on. These people are sent out to spread the gospel, that's what apostle means.

That is another false statement. The apostles of the bible are so far removed from those idolatrous folks who wear cassocks and other uniforms of organised religion in your "church".

~Lady~:

Why do we take apostolic succession so seriosuly, there's a passage by St. Paul (I can't think of it right now, I'll look it up for you) that spoke of those who were christians who were supposedly preaching the gospel to the churches and St. Paul basically stated that those people weren't "sent out" by any of the apostle, meaning no random person can wake up and walk into a church and start preaching.

This again highlights the serious problems with people who call themselves "christians" and have a very limited knowledge of the bible they claim to have "compiled".

This is Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Did you even read the earlier verse? (since you couldnt even quote this correctly how can you even remember to read it IN CONTEXT!)

1. Paul was not remotely refering to anyone being "sent by the apostles".

2. Right from verse 1 of Romans 10 we already know whom Paul was talking about - 1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

3. The entire chapter 10 is centered around an appeal to the jews to salvation in the blood of Jesus Christ rather than clinging unto the law.

4. Verse 14 is the prelude to verse 15 and this is what it says - 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

- We dont see anything about anyone being sent by any apostle there. Enough of building a theology on falsehood and deliberate misapplication of the gospel.

~Lady~:

We also see in the acts of the apsotles that before anyone was sent out they had to receive blessing from the apostles, basically being ordained to spread the gospel. On several occasions apostle Paul talks about sending someone out to the Churches. That also showed that they were very organised and it wasn't a bunch of Churches on their own just doing whatever they want, they were united with the other churches that were founded at that time already.

Carmelilly spoke about this earlier but it seems you prefer to tie your ankles around your own unbelief. There is a difference between being "organised" and "organised religion" as we have it today. Timothy was "ordained" to minister to the greeks right from when he was not yet a teenager . . .
Just as similarly as the Lord would pick men who followed Him in their hearts in the old testament so it was with the new testament christians.

The new testament church ordained apostles, pastors, teachers, bishops, helpers . . . nowhere do we see them "ordaining" nuns, celibate priests (actually EVERY CHRISTIAN is a priest unto the Lord), popes and the other nonsense.

~Lady~:

Lol, the Pope is not God incarnate that's just you adding your own in there, he is the Vicar of Christ, i.e. and Ambassador of Christ

what is the meaning of this heresy? Every Christian bears Christ in them. Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Where in the bible did the apostles appoint an ambassador for Christ?

~Lady~:

and from the Power of the keys that were handed over to the office of Vicar of Christ, the Pope can certainly make decisions and as Christ said "whatsoever he binds on earth can be bound in heaven, and whatsoever he looses on earth is loose in heaven"

Yet more nonsense . . . EVERY CHRISTIAN has the power to bind and loose too. This false power of the pope cannot have come from the same bible we read . . . oh sorry you dont even read it at all or you would have seen this - Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

What power then has the pope that you as a christian do not have? What "decisions" is he making on your behalf? did you read Matthew 18:19? It says if ANY TWO OF YOU shall agree on earth as touching ANYTHING, it shall be done unto you . . . so what is the role of the pope now?

You know, reading the above i lost complete interest in exposing the rest of your heresy.

You might want to pick a copy of the bible and start prayerfully reading it . . . will serve you better than just foaming in the mouth about "questions". Its apparent you really are not saved by grace.

the return of uncle Dauda. . .

Lady is still spamming the threads as usual with nonsense . . . just look at this heresy she said here . . .

AND YES GOD TELLS US EVERYTHING.

Here is what the bible says - Matt 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh

Maybe God has told Lady when He is coming.

Make i hear word o jare!

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