And here we are still talking about Sanusi

Just imagine for a moment that Sanusi becomes president come 2023... Gandollar will get the Dino treatment with alot of Dasuki spices

But, ofcourse he can't be president in 2023 because the north can't keep power beyond 8years straight. Otherwise, we will Orubebe the whole thing and there'll be no Jega ending

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May their conscience continue to visit them, may their interests continue to conflict and may there always be confusion/disagreements amongst them for the benefit of Nigerians because the kind of decisions these vampires called politicians make on our behalf leaves one really dumbfounded and the saddest part is that the people can't collectively do anything about it.

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Private in an iconic public place at the climax of a romantic getaway... on the backdrop of a lovely natural scenery like a waterfall.

I don't want anybody up in our business. We don't need the cheers and claps... it is a private moment and not a show!

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Inside life!

This matter has been over flogged abeg!
SLS is not the first traditional ruler to be dethroned...

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Estimated billing... the cash cow of electricity distribution companies
Now that the proverbial cow has been strangled, expect more darkness

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Apparently, nobody is invincible... only God rules forever!
I hope what Ganduje swallowed for this kinda bravado will sustain him for a very long time sha

Traditional institutions should be respected and neutral to politics.

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Do not despice the days of little beginnings... accept the little and grow from there... take it for the experience... the economy is in shambles and people are surviving on less.... all these suffices as good advice on one part given a common circumstance that we're all familiar with.

On the other part, 65k is very small for a graduate with responsibilities already living in a state like Lagos talk more of someone relocating! No offence intended, it is people who earn meagre wages that are more susceptibility to corrupt practices because they need extra income. You won't be able to survive 3 months outside that job if you lose it.

You will incur expenses, things are not cheap and your job should give you a means of living not just an avenue to slave for another!

For the staff bus, you'd spend long hours in traffic except the company is located close to where you live (which most likely isn't so). There'll be days the bus wont come or you'll miss the bus... calculate the cost of transportation to and fro.

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Tall tales
Let them come and install cameras in our bedrooms na
Good hygiene saves lives though. Protect yourselves!

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You'd appreciate the fact that you're not in Nigeria. Nigerians have a certain mentality that typifies most of the ghettos and average places. You simply can't miss the difference.

However, that roads are bad, no electricity etc... no be everybody dey experience am for naija o!
If you live in the better parts of certain cities in Nigeria, the only major difference will be the foreign faces and weather.

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So poor and sick people do not attend this church? No needy people around the community or neighbourhood of the church?

Why do fund raising for a common ring that doesn't guarantee that marriage will even take place?
Na wa o

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Who has time to read all these junk words about scums and their hustle?
If I read two lines of this epistle, let me not drink water today!
Nonsense and politics

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Monkey business

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700k as newspaper allowance or entertainment allowance?
They can as well tell us that their numerous aides earn 30k minimum wage na
These people can lie ehn....
Nonsense and corona virus

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As a man, determine what you want! Do not let any woman pull you into a situation that's entirely her idea.
If it is something you're cool with, buy into it and take over the control of its direction.

@OP, you should be happy she did that; you didn't play into her plans. Let her try someone else... at 35 she doesn't seem to have much success with it.

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Can Chelsea rise up to the occasion tonight?

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Until they discover the gate of hell, I'm not impressed!

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Valentine kor, Bonaventure ni...
I've got me!

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All these their disoveries and imagined figures are like anti-kwaption in Nigeria...
They just keep throwing around big bogus figures that have no basis in reality.

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May his soul RIP... A true fan here!

Mods, oya modify the title of this thread and include my name.

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Kuje prison for reunion and private arrangements

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Things are getting tougher and the government that is responsible for the security and welfare of the people is the culprit here.

I'm not against the ban, but create alternatives and palliative measures for the socioeconomic impact

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Good job mister... keep the flag flying high.

I love the neatness, ambience and quality of the background... it is in a place like this that you will find it easy to properly think of productive things that will benefit mankind.

Not the type we have here that is spiced with poverty hence the inspiration for scheming of various scams.

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If Abacha that wasn't known as a thief stole this much, then imagine the humongous thievery of IBB (the known International Babban Barawo) but nobody will touch him as a "bretton woods agent" plus that he's still alive.

All the presidential candidates paid homage to IBB despite leaving public service decaces ago... why?

Abacha's loot lost immunity when he died.

xpmode:

Buhari did not paid homage to IBB

I hope you're not a lazy youth... or is google not working on your phone?
Anyway, I've helped you with the simple task


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So, it happened in a hotel where men went to solicit sex, the ladies went to vend sex but the management of the hotel didn't like this unofficial arrangement?

I have nothing to say

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Copy and paste your way to trouble
You must not say something on every matter you come across.

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Happy birthday to one of football's greatest ever player

But, I hope he doesn't break his leg while trying though
Ok.bye

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He chose the wrong place, props and time to tell his expensive joke.
Nigerians are the most gullible people and it is no wonder why we have the kind of leaderships we get.

We have institutions with pathetic unprofessional buffoons and the country is just a terrible shame.

Seeing how we are managing our affairs in 2020, it sure is a long way outta babylon.

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BoncoBoy:


So u accept that the universe cannot just start to exist but ur God which is much more complex than the universe can just start to exist abi??

I'm glad you acknowledge that God is much more complex - so, what makes you think man's finite brain/awareness can comprehend God in His real essence? To bring this point home, as a human being, there are sounds below our threshold that we cannot hear but animals can hear them. There are lights that our eyes cannot see but some animals can etc... There are natural phenomenoms too low or too high for us to be conscious of (without special equipment deviced to imitate the natural abilities of other creatures) and there are some other things we can never know.

God exists and the evidence is inherent in everything that exists in and outside our world - take it or leave it!

How did this your god start to exist

Death comes to us all... When you die, you might ask Him yourself sir.

LordReed:


Age has no bearing on truthfulness.

It does!
Sometime ago, Joe was two years old, he couldn't drive a truck, true
Same Joe is now 20 years old, he can drive a truck, true

Many years ago, malaria had no cure, true!
Today, malaria has cure, true!

Conversely, man had need for food and water 5,000 years ago, true
Today and in the next 10,000 years man still and will still have need for food and water, true

So, what are you talking about?

What did your god God make the universe from?

He made it with the substances and materials we can see, name, touch and evaluate today. Might I remind you that there are still a lot man hasn't figured out yet? Because we can define and even categorize elements and phenomenons today doesn't mean they weren't created to specificity and purposefully (by the Almighty, All Wise God) - they didnt just come to being just like that.

I don't make the claim that god doesn't exist. You who is making the claim that a god exists are the one who needs to prove it.

If you cannot create anything out of nothing (scientific fact!), I cannot understand why everything you can see in our material world and in space doesn't serve as enough evidence that they were created by a Supreme Being - God!

There are sufficient explanations for why the universe is the way it is. Those explanations do not require a god and they work quite well since they predict more accurately what kind of results we shall get when certain actions are taken.

That you have explanations doesnt justify anything, it only shows how incredible our brains are in observing and making deductions.
It is cheeky to say systems work without needing God... I mean, they were designed to work like that!
If you put water on fire long enough, it will come to a boil and if you leave it on the fire, it will evaporate... no brainer - stone-age knowledge!
We have been armed with functional brains to figure out some of these things and operate them which doesn't take away the fact that God designed it to be like that.
Scientists have observed (and explained using the gravity theory) that "space particles" approaching earth goes around it rather than directly into it - That is some plausible explanation but the real question is, who designed it to be like that?

The device you are using to communicate is one such result and it requires no god at any point to actualise.

Proves my point! The device didnt invent itself, someone did!
It works as long as it is powered on (and not faulty) because it was designed to be so. Whether I use it or not, some background processes will continue to run and I can choose to stop some - because it was engineered to be smart like that! And what is more, if I don't give it certain input, the device will never bring out specific output... just like how we are on earth.

The device doesn't need God to operate will make sense on a shallow level.
Think deeper about it, which part of that device was not made from items and elements found on earth? Even the brain and ideas behind it comes from the brain - a physical matter... God's creation!

Don't put words in my mouth, I don't mention magic so just stop that if you want an honest conversation.

I was asking you a question using my own word; like magic.

Yes.

Yes what? which part of my quoted post are you yes-ing to?

budaatum:


https://www.nairaland.com/5238668/evolution-101

Does not change my definition or use of the term here. If anything else, your thread further proves my point - man going through a process of changing form to becoming what he is today. The evolution in that thread talks nothing about the accumulation of knowledge but rather, adaptation by natural selection. Different things!

Taking on the evolution theory itself, who has a copy/evidence of the first cell that split to become two and so forth? Just speculative theory I suppose?

It is scientific law that you cannot create something out of nothing, so, where did the first cell come from?
And that is for the human side, how about the animals? they also came from the same one cell?
How about the plants, also from the same cell?
How about earth, other planets? how did they form? or they also split from the same "cell"?

And to the bollocks of natural selection, how come in the sea for instance, there are all sizes, shapes and persona to the creatures in there? I mean, they all live in the same ecosystem and if evolution is true, a lot of these creatures shouldn't exist today - dont you think?
They are also living organisms afterall... or are they immune to evolution?

budaatum:

I so love Christ. He is written to have said, "All that you do for those whom you see before you pleases the Lord your God in Heaven whom you see not".

Yet, some still go looking for God in heaven.

Do you even understand what you just quoted?
Let me help you, you cannot see God but, He is pleased with you being your brothers keeper.
It doesn't mean you should only seek to please man or that God does not have His place in your life though you cannot see Him.

budaatum:

Only those who wish to blind themselves see evolution as "man changing form from apes to becoming the erect homo sapiens that exists now". There's a lot more to it than that, and even you know that since you were "expecting you to say that" in response.

What other evolution are you talking about then as regards the human race?
For your information, man at his core has not evolved one single bit. People who are born in remote villages far removed from civilization still live like our forefathers - primitive such that they source everything they need to survive in the bushes.

I'm implying "knowledge in passed down from generation to generation and is improved as time passes". Basically, evolution. It's the reason I have matches and a lighter that has evolved from rubbing stones to make fire. "Incremental knowledge" has refined how I light fires.

That is not evolution at all. You should check the meaning of evolution again. Man has not changed in any form, we only live better now because of the refined processes and knowledge we've accumulated overtime - that is what has improved about man. For it will be senseless to be born in a place that has items of civilization and still resort to cavemen ways.

The words in a book do not exist? You are funny! I wonder where what we quote comes from then. Need I show sources for them so you know I don't just make up the words I quote? Do tell, is there any merit in loving ones enemies, or doing unto others as one might want done unto one? And why believe what you know as if you merely believe and haven't tested it?

I didn't say otherwise. I was questioning you about what you said... smh. Please, read my quote again slowly

The two who walked past the man who was "stripped of his clothes, beat and left half dead", were both believers, while the one who "saw him, took pity on him, bandaged his wounds pouring on oil and wine, then put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him, and the next day took out two denari and gave them to the innkeeper saying, ‘Look after him and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have", was an unbeliever and the one Christ said, “Go and do likewise”.

Those believers are just adherents of their religion. They probably are there for clout and the social factors. Like I said, some religions are more wholesome than others and sometimes, it is the people that are the problem.

Consider that I can not possibly be referring to what I do not acknowledge, and what I refer to and acknowledge deserves a lot more than just believing it.

It was you who said you weren't born into a religion and don't believe in God

I didn't "mention buhari and trump instead of Okonkwo and Ikemefuna", because "buhari and trump" do not make my point while "Okonkwo and Ikemefuna” do make my point despite only "exist[ing] in the play", or more appropriately, in a book, and despite that, can be learned from.

You'll have to elaborate on this. What do you think my perspective might be, and what makes you think I am riling?

That's the vibe I got

Please know that you have in no way offended me.

Alright, good to know

Unless you mean "find yourself outside civilization" with no opportunity to pack matches and lighter, you might be right here, but if you have ever tried lighting a fire with stones, you'd know how difficult it is if you don't know how.

There are people who have had to survive on an island due to a plane or ship mishap - It happens. Nobody hopes for these things but they do happen. I hope you get the context now?

I myself like being prepared, and do not embark on ventures without preparation, so it's very unlikey I'd find myself needing to light a fire with stones. The world I live in is nowhere like that of "our forefathers, I guess, and " the higher power" of understanding serves me very very well.

Good for you sir

Well, I hope you change your mind about what you felt after considering the evidence instead of just believing whatever you want to believe.

What evidence? Nobody has produced a single evidence against the existence of God - just fallacious logic!

Remember I said you don't know me and you said you don't care? That knowing was about perspective, and we are here explaining each others perspective to one another, which I think is work to make one understood. You sir are working hard and it's appreciated.

Touche! I stay on topic whenever I have these sorta conversations. I react to only what you actually say or imply and not what I know about you or your inclinations.