men cheat because they have pen.is
and pen.is likes variety

...simplez

there is really little or nothing a woman can do about it
except dangle threats and ensure she puts in place a leash to restrain him

Emmafrancis: Like seriously Am yet To understand the rational behind the fleeing of people that r supposed to be quarantined.

find answer here:
https://www.nairaland.com/1858891/love-thine-neighbour-thine-self

ehmm OP
just in case u go back
console urself with this:

2 Corinthians 12: 7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong

1stCitizen:

Patience is a virtue. Why not wait for another 25 years when you develop a brain before commenting.

This is sad for me. I used to admire that couple.

don't be too emotional about these issues my friend
after all, no life was lost

Also,
don't worry. Life goes on.
Sadness is transient

wait, let me be clear
Cameroon bombed a Nigerian territory? !!!!!!

Well if they did
this should be a good reason for us to be able to pursue and bomb BH in Cameroonian territory

I mean, this was one of the excuses that the military always gave why they could not curtail BH
i.e. that they normally take refuge in Cameroonian territory where we're not permitted to operate by law

Even if this is true
it won't affect his ministry. Thankfully, he has built his ministry to withstand such shocks

Sometimes, I wish this one wife thing was not mentioned in the bible
MOG's no for get any issue

Also,
if he cheated on her
she could equally cheat on him if she wishes
as long as there are no infections passed on by any party
and this shouldn't raise any eyebrow in the church

abeg I tire,.. make I face my own business

Zacheaus Somorin 
with agency report 


A Perth-based international adviser, Dr. Stephen Davis, who survived months of extreme danger to try to rescue more than 200 schoolgirls kidnapped by terrorist group Boko Haram, has alleged that one of the primary sources of funding for the terror group is Nigerian politicians.

THISDAY had exclusively reported that one of the key federal government negotiators trying to secure the release of the Chibok girls from the clutches of Boko Haram was Davis.

Davis has worked in Nigeria in the past with the Archbishop of Canterbury and Head of the Church of England, Justin Welby, to negotiate the release of kidnapped oil industry workers in the Niger Delta.
Speaking yesterday in an interview on ABC News, an Australian television station, Davis, 63, said he had realised the only way to stop the kidnappings was to stop the sponsors of Boko Haram.

While Al Qaeda was involved in training Boko Haram recruits, Davis said one of their major sources of funding - aside from raiding banks - was Nigerian politicians.

“That makes it easier in some ways as they can be arrested, but of course the onus of proof is high and many are in opposition, so if the president (Goodluck Jonathan) moves against them, he would be accused of trying to rig the elections due early next year,” he said.

“So I think this will run through to the election unabated. These politicians think that if they win power they can turn these terrorists off, but this has mutated.

“It’s no longer a case of Muslims purifying by killing off Christians. They are just killing indiscriminately, beheading, disembowelling people - men, women and children and whole villages.

“I would say it's almost beyond the control of the political sponsors now. Terror groups are linking up in Somalia, southern Sudan, Egypt and we have fairly strong evidence they are talking with ISIS members.
“They will link up with ISIS and Al Shabaab and I think that what we are seeing in that region is the new homeland of radical Islam in the world,” he told his interviewer.

Davis, who returned to Australia after a four-month sojourn with rare footage of the intense fighting in Nigeria's North-east, as Boko Haram stepped up efforts to establish an Islamic state, said he established extensive contacts with tribes and terrorist groups in Africa, including three small cells of Al Qaeda, while working as a troubleshooter for oil and gas company Shell in the Niger Delta.

When news broke in April about the girls’ kidnapping from a school in the village of Chibok, near the Cameroun border, Davis, who had recently moved to Perth from London, decided he could not sit on his hands.

During the journey in North-eastern Nigeria, his life was threatened more than once, but his Australian passport saved him.

“When confronted by groups with an AK-47 in my face they'd say, ‘you are American, we have to kill you’,” Davis said.

“When you say, no I’m not American, they think you are British, and say you will still die, but when I said I’m Australian, they said that’s all right. I have no idea why but it’s certainly been helpful.”
The devout Christian managed to smuggle out of the country footage of a handful of schoolgirls who escaped from Boko Haram.

They detail the atrocities they endured, including being raped almost on a daily basis.
Following media reports that nobody knew where the girls were, he decided to reach out to his contacts.
“I made a few phone calls to the Boko Haram commanders and they confirmed they were in possession of the girls,” he said.

“They told me they’d be prepared to release some as a goodwill gesture towards a peace deal with the government, so I went to Nigeria on the basis of being able to secure their release.”

Arriving in Nigeria, Davis quickly set up talks with commanders and he believed he had brokered a deal.
Fearing being arrested, the Boko Haram commanders - holding the girls across the border in Cameroun - had a list of conditions.

They wanted the military to stand down and promised to drop the girls in a village before phoning to give their exact location.

Davis said they lived up to their promise, but in a region ravaged by war and corruption, the rescue was sabotaged.

“The girls were there, 60 girls, there were 20 vehicles with the girls,” he said.
“We travelled for four-and-a-half hours to reach them, but 15 minutes before we arrived they were kidnapped again by another group who wanted to cash in on a reward.

“The police had offered a reward of several million naira just 24 hours before we went to pick them up.
“I understand, from the Boko Haram commanders I spoke to, the girls eventually ended up back with them.

“I don't know what happened to the group that took them but I suspect it wasn't good,” he disclosed.
Davis said a young man kidnapped by Boko Haram and used as a driver later helped a handful of girls to escape.

One kidnapped girl, who managed to avoid having her mobile phone confiscated by turning it off and hiding it in her bra, managed to call her family while hiding in bushes, but had no idea where she was or which direction she should be heading.

After being told to walk west by following the sunset each evening, the four girls managed to cross the border from Cameroun and into Nigeria before being reunited with their families.
So far they are the only girls to have escaped from a Boko Haram camp.

When Davis later tried to contact, via text, the young man who helped them, he received a sobering reply.
“The person you are trying to contact has gone on a journey from which there is no return,” the reply read. “He was an infidel.”

Davis said the longer he stayed in Nigeria the more it dawned on him the kidnappings would not end.
“It became very clear that if I was able to get 50 girls released, then another group would kidnap 70 or 80 more. So by freeing 50 you were consigning 70 or 80 more to the same fate,” he explained.

Davis said initially journalists from around the world including CNN, the ABC and BBC flocked into the country, but they concluded it was far too dangerous to send any crew into the North-east of the country.
He said since then, the violence in North-east Nigeria and the threat of foreign journalists being kidnapped and beheaded, there has been limited coverage of the crimes being committed by Boko Haram.

“Boko Haram used to telephone Nigerian journalists and give them a story, but that doesn't happen anymore,” he said.

“They go straight to social media. They post their own material and they’ve learnt to become very savvy on social media and use it as an instrument to terrorise.”

Davis, who has a PhD in political geography, has worked as an adviser to former President Olusegun Obasanjo and the late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua.

He also worked for Shell in Nigeria in an advisory capacity between 2002 and 2004.



Source: http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/australian-negotiator-politicians-funding-boko-haram/187570/

edogirl2: All this because Mr Tinubu did not support you for Chairmanship of the APC?

Haba, why must this be a do or die thing. You have occupied several top political positions over the years, so what's wrong if someone else (from your own state btw) becomes chairman of APC?


And going on and on and on making all sorts of unproven allegations is not helpful to you Mr Ikimi. More embarrassingly, the main target of your vituperations has not bothered to respond to you.

You win some you lose some. I think it is best to let this go.

Ever built something with people
then they turn around and push you away for flimsy reasons?

How do you think that Tinubu would have felt
if the South West governors had sidelined him?

Anyways,...as long as APC does not crumble. I'll be happy

I have written the final part of this article here:
https://www.nairaland.com/1874502/apc-pdp-some-fundamental-ideological

..I'll edit later

CONCLUSION
Although there is another group that see Jonathan simply as a failure
and would rather that any other 'capable' person takes the reign of government
whether in PDP or APC. This group is in the minority.


SO in conclusion, when you see people pointing to ether APC or PDP as the ideal part
be rest assured that their support is driven by either one
or a combination of more than one of the 'ideologies' that I mentioned above

....which of these is yours?

Ideology 5: Ethnic Politics

Some ethnic nationalities feel that they have been previously seen as second class citizens
In Jonathans PDP, they see a psychological reversal of fortune
You will see such people in the South South and South East

Others see APC as a vehicle to show that their ethnic group
is the intellectual driver and King makers of Nigerian politics
You will see such in the South West

2)
Religious neutral (a)
This category, are not particularly bothered about the religiousness of parties

The candidate can be a christian, muslim or sharia promoter for all they care
they've lived side by side with christians and muslims all their lives
You'd find this category in the south west and middlebelt

Religious neutral (b)
These are mainly xtians who like the (a) category, are not particularly bothered
about the religiousness of parties/candidates
What they might be bothered about are parties/candidates
that they percieve to pushing an islamic agenda
they can be found in all South and Middlebelt


New Group: Pro -Xtian
Jonathan has been accused of causing religious divide never before experienced in Nigeria
The reason is because for the first time,there is a new group of pro-xtian voters.
Jonathan's team have painted APC as both a muslim and extrimist party
And has whipped up a previously silent group by empasising that muslims seek to dominate xtians
This new group is heavilly pro xtian and anti -muslim.
The aim is to push South West and Middlebelt xtians to the side of PDP

Ideology 4: Religious politics

Previously there were only 3 main religious political affiliations
1) Pro -islamist
This group have a strong inclination to vote only for Muslim candidates,
preferably muslim (especially sharia inclined) candidtates from the Core north,
Middlebelt, then SouthWest in that order

This category can be found in the core north and previously supported CPC
'For now, their loyalty is with APC because of Buhari

Ideology 3: Enhancing Party Competition
Some although believing that the parties are no different support APC.
This is because they appreciate that is dangerous for Nigeria to be a one party state
For example, previously, under a PDP monopoly
you could go to sleep knowing that whoever emerges PDP flag bearer will be the president
Thanks God that there is now at least some doubt.

The folks who freely pushed for the two party approach is the media
they carried 'progressive' stories of the APC while ignoring some of its 'retrogressive' stories
Interestingly although the media is many times thought to be owned by the south West
a huge percentage of the top 'National' media houses are actually owned by South South and East folks
So don't be surprised if closer to elections you start seeing a more balanced narrative.

Ideology 2b: Some PDP "conservativeness"

PDP on the other hand is hinged on some 3 or 4 men
They are Obasanjo, IBB, Annenih and maybe Ekwueme

These men (asides from Ekwueme) can best be described as conservatives
or worse retrogressives.

You can be 100% sure that they wont decamp from PDP to any party
They can support other parties against theirs
but they are not going no where
Everyone else, including their kids, followers, associates
and President GEJ won't hesitate to decamp from PDP to other parties if need be.

However the influenc of these men apart from Anenih
has been considerably whittled down in the PDP national level

Ideology 2a: Some APC "progressiveness"


APC's ideological difference from PDP is hinged on two men. They are Tinubu and Buhari.
I honestly cant say that these men are not progressives -at least within Nigeria political space.
No matter your arguments,
from their history, you can say that they are at least anti-establishment or anti-status quo

Every other politician in APC will be more than happy to decamp if the oppurtunity beckons.
Atiku, Saraki, El Rufai, Lai Mohammed, Oshiomole, ?Fashola? etc. will easily jump ship.

Now, if Buhari and Tinubu's influence in APC whittles down
there is a possibility that they might get out of the party,
or even support other parties such as the PDP against their party,
but you can be 99% sure
that they will not suddenly become card carrying members of PDP

Ideology 1: Belle politics

-Some are paid to be e-communication supporters
-Some are presently members of parties
-The relatives or benefactors of some are stunch members of parties
and so will receive goodies if their brothers party is in power
(Remember the Cramjones/FFK/APC connection. That is assuming Cramjones is not FFK)

These set of people actually have little or no loyalty to any political party
they will switch once their meal ticket switches

..DP

Water poured from cup to cup

Ever seen kids play by turning same water from one cup to another
then pretend that the cups magically make the water different stuff like tea or juice etc?

Well Nigerian adult politicians play the same game
One minute they are progressives in APC, the next they are anti-establishment in PDP


Despite this, the parties do represent some fundamentally different ideologies
and therefore, mean different things to different people
Some folks are explicitly concious of this, others gravitate towards the different ideologies
but cannot place their fingers on what exactly it is.

So what they do is to constantly highlight the strenght of the parties that they support
while pointing out the weakness of the other party

Introduction

This is the 3rd and final part of my threads trying to show that APC = PDP
while in the same breadth, trying to salvage some fundamental differences

Part 1: https://www.nairaland.com/1864112/change-management-pdp-apc-terrorism
Part 2: https://www.nairaland.com/1868740/when-apc-pdp-using-change

Blockus:
She suspected.. That is grounds to Quarantine him.
Immediately a Doctor suspects that a patient is carry such a deadly and highly infecteous disease like Ebola, that Doctor is required by Law to isolate and Quarantine such a patient and then Contact the Nigerian Ministry of Health.

we're back to why i called her intelligent
from the level of argument displayed by some doc on this thread
i suspect that such 'intellectual' curiosity to 'suspect' is not common place

Blockus:
Let me just say this..
If the Doctor had let Mr. Sawyer go after diagosing him with Ebola.. She would have lost her license and very likely go to jail.
Its not a matter of intelligence, its a matter of DUTY!! There are certain illnesses that are on the high priority list and have a protocol that ALL doctors must follow when once the diagonose a patient with them.

nope
thats not the way i heard it happened

1) she suspected >> 2) restrained him based on this >> 3) then confirmed it

1) and 2) are the key

Once 3) was achieved, almost anybody would seek to quarantine him

phantom:

abeg no vex. I no fit argue with you.you obviously are UNINFORMED. don't take it the hard way.

ok naw
if this statement is what makes u feel better,..enjoy
Hope you go places with such talk

phantom: please don't tell me that.
Nigerians support their govt with silence! when you don't ask the right questions or ask for accountability,why won't your leaders continue with the ra.pe?

Nigerians are not just weaklings,but poor,ignorant weaklings.

You are correct in this ^^^ ooo
but the issue at hand is the NMA strike
(I have assumed that you are a doctor)

1) Are the nurses and other health professionals happy with you guys?
2) If they increase your salary to 2million a month will you guys drop the strike action and forget about the ammenities you're fighting for?
3) If after increasing your salary to 2 million, they also increase the salary of other health profs. to 2 million or more will you guys embark on another strike?

....think carefully about this from the perspective of the wider Nigerian doctors viewpoint
maybe it will provide some clue

phantom:


she kept doing her job till she died. has it not ended in "eyahh" "pity""so sad""she was brave","you died so that we may live","you are an icon","god bless you sister"

how many of you give a hoot what she earned there?

how many of you have suggested what govt should do for her family?

you are quick to remember she was doing what she was trained for but very slow to review THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH SHE WORKED.

I have suggested what government should do
https://www.nairaland.com/1858891/love-thine-neighbour-thine-self
and i know what i'll do if I ever meet her kids or husband

phantom: ....... mentally deranged Nigerians. wholeheartedly defending a government that can't provide guns and bullets for its soldiers.

soldiers are going AWOL! I guess its also the doctors fault.
in case you have forgotten boko haram has retaken gwoza while your soldiers are burning their uniforms and hitching rides.....lol
crazy Nigerians! defending a president who is in Germany for medical attention as I type this,while his hospitals remain shut. the ordinary Nigerians can die for all he cares.
if that is not Jonathan flipping a giant-sized middle finger at all of you,I don't know what is.

you guys really deserve that drunken clown and his cronies.

Phantom, phantom, phantom
Have you noticed that no one on this thread is supporting the government?
In fact, you'd be appreciated if you go over to germany where GEJ's security is low key and take him out

If you swat a tsetse fly perched on a man's scrotum
you'll have the man to contend with and not the fly

..thats the reason for the mentally deranged nigerians you laugh at
try hard to decompose issues into its various strains

egift: This lousy theory is what PDP always promote because everyone knows they have failed Nigerians. Be Patriotic, send PDP back to the drawing board to reconsider whose interests to protect (Nigerian masses OR greed cabals).

Up APC.

In the next thread, I'll try to pschoanalyse your point of view.
please make sure to read it

....Cheers

Make i conclude go siddon
Jesus tok say if salt looses its saltiness
then its no good and should be thrown away

2015, you can throw out Goodluck, and after that the next president too
but for now,
when we faced an emergency, and doc-o-tor who still receives salary turned their backs for a "noble" reason
then anger will naturally rise up against doc-o-tor

and thats why the salt was thrown away

phantom:

please go and seat down. I am not interested in this your epistle/PhD thesis.

where is the president of your country as I type this?

Wait naw
u're a gentle and intelligent man
and should be interested in PhD thesis

Would you rather that I dont argue the points
and just say aye or nay

@ ifyclose2

5)

I said that I have always been surrounded by folks from the medical profession
This is how the argument has always gone:

The doctors complain that they spent so much time at university studying
the pharmacists retort that they also spend long time studying and that whereas a doctor can only take one life at a time in error
they (pharmacists) can take the lifes of hundreds at a go in error

Other 'medical' fields feel slighted that they are looked down on by even the most junior of doctors
I mean it this thread, someone made reference to the nurse running away derogratilly
such putting down is typical

No wonder the JOHESU group is anti NMA