Parachoko:
Do you know my tribe? An owo man will find it hard to understand an Akure man. Though I think owo was under the control of Akure.

They all saw themselves as German under different kingdoms. They do come together sometimes to fight the Romans.

Someone United them all under one country. The British didn't make the mistake of classifying the Yorubas and Nupes under one ethnic group.

let's ilaje for instance

the believe is that we speak ilaje even when the language is close to other present day Yoruba

there was word like Yoruba describing the present day Yoruba as YORUBA in precolonial era

just like you being an owo man


coming to fight that you are saying is a common thing in war strategy

the Saxon made alliance with the welsh ( wales ) to fight the Danes

alliance is a war strategy that doesn't make you one outside the war except when the both parties involve decide to uphold oneness just like Yoruba of post colonial era

Parachoko:
Yorubas of owo and Akure do not speak the same language. You're talking out of point bro. Edo is not a name of an ethnic group or tribe.

Most Yorubas trace their ancestry to Ife. The Oyo Ilorin war was caused by a Fulani man taking over power in ilorin and he tried to expand his kingdom into other Yorubas kingdom.

Oyo was controling most part of Yoruba land, it was after some part decided to stop paying royalty to Oyo kingdom that led to a civil war called the kiriji war.

There was a time German were not United. They had different kingdoms before they were united.

do you know that Benin was and is still called Edo before colonial period came or do you know that no edo man call himself Benin man except Edo man ?

before Germany became united, do all region called themselves German?


mr man don't let your emotions or love for your tribe keep you away from the truth

me saying akure and owo speak the same language is just to make my example clearer being that they have all adopted to be called Yoruba...

nothing more

Parachoko:
What of the war between Oyo and Ilorin? Akure was a kingdom on it's own. If it had ask for help from owo kingdom, maybe they would have come to their aid.

this war among themselves only shows how divided they were

one thing I want you to understand is that

the Yoruba for example of akure and owo ordinarily speak the same language no doubt but the argument is that in those days

an owo man regard himself as an owo speaking man same with an akure man..,.

this is a prefect resemblance to saxons and Danes but today they are all English


there was nothing like Yoruba or igbo being use to generalise them in precolonial era like Edo had.

those claiming opposite view with the op on this very topic are only doing it to claim worth of unity among his tribe in ancient time especially when talking about Igbo and Yoruba people

the fact that the Yorubas never had a word that generalized the entire people in those days as one was the reason Benin military could come to akure cast war on them and the nearest owo man will sit comfortable in his land saying "its not my concern"

this unarguably shows the people never have that unity in precolonial era even in the east


I could argue with anyone that the Edo's had a unifying tribal name in precolonial era before many Nigeria tribes today

the topic is educating nice one op

this topic is an absolute waste of time

the two state ( especially Edo) have never made their stand know to anybody about joining anybody if 9ja divide which is not going to happen.

Edo believe in self independence and it come to that situation, I don't see edo joining either east or west


if you have not live in this area don't come here to say rubbish like this people will like to be with east or west

go to Edo and find out what a typical edo man have to say about himself

go to Delta and find same about an Urhobo man

don't come here to say rubbish

UGBE634:
When I said that you should know I was mocking you in this context , they would try to protect him online and offline just the way every other Benins would do. if that is ywhat you meant by the word slavery. No one calls himself Oba's slave in Benin

otenmwen o ghan...

Akpama y ewaen we wee

talking to fool is a waste of time
bye

TAO11:
That one pepper am again!

ikpezuma na asaka
I like your tears keep it on

Truthshots2:
One of my friends and former colleague told me this: "I don't go on social media because it is filled with idiots".

It would be nice to make a real debate platform which would be governed by logics and well moderated.
Right here you have some crazy lying and deluded yar.iba who keep saying nonsensical things and just keep talking as if logics and truth don't matter.

their cowardness stink to the heavens

TAO11:
What does he have to say this time?

Oh, nothing as usual. Okay!

you too dull

big time

TAO11:
Yes I know that. And I appreciated your spotting it.

Oh okay, you didn’t mean to type that. Got it.

It is reflected multiple times in different texts. Hence it is deliberate.

A-B-C-D... are not Bini (or Yoruba) concepts. They are alien concepts borrowed to express our native words in written form.

And many words (native or even foreign) are sometimes pronounced slightly differently from how they appear in writing.

“Ooni” used to be spelt as “Owoni” in some 1800 text, but the pronunciation is nevertheless as the former.

And no where did I insist that it is pronounced in a certain way.

Refer again to my comment, my words are:

(A) “This Ogiamien is also spelt as Ogiamwen in classical Benin text”

(B) “The Benin one is also spelt Ogiamwen”

You clearly didn’t know it is also spelt as Ogiemwen in some Benin text.

Hence you don’t know what you don’t know. Clear?

don't try to prove that you are correct because it will lead you into more trouble

everyone is telling you that it's wrong you refuse to accept


this shows how foolish you have become even those that were supporting you have desert you in shame

TAO11:
And what makes you think all your knowledge must come from me?

thanks for showing your foolishness



ewe nu ma kon

UGBE634:
OGAIME- the title of the olu of warri means king over the riverine terrain, the text you wrote that made me quote had Ogiame on it. I thought you quoted my correction I sent to gregyboy and I came to correct it. the Ogiamwen you wrote does not have any meaning in Benin it certainly was a mistake that is what I am trying to tell you. the Ogiamien is not even in full spelling it that way won't reflect it full meaning, the e matters a lot in this context. lol at you don't know what you don't know me full bini man come and take lectures on the language you will need it to carry out this argument proper

let her keep on fooling herself

TAO11:
When you what the word spelling is, you will wake up from your internal danger and self hate.

what is the meaning of ogiamwen?


please a straight answer

TAO11:


Lol.

You just said there is no Ogiame in Benin only to reach a spelling of “Ogiame” for the Benin family.

Now get this:
(1) Ogiamien is the name of Evian’s son. Their saga led to the invitation sent to Ife.

This Ogiamien is also spelt as Ogiamwen in classical Benin text.

You don’t know what you don’t know.

(2) Ogiame on the other hand is the title of the Olu in Itsekiri land.

madam you are too confuse to understand

you think only what you see on paper can save you here

let me shock you even if you bring anything classical book or whatsoever

the word ogiamwen in Benin has no meaning when talking about Ogiamien

if I still explain now you will still dance in your ignorance

keep deceiving yourself

UGBE634:
No it is in it raw state OGIE-KING, AMEN- WATER hence the term Ogiame, that is the correct spelling, Ogiamwen is wrong

Oga tao11 is a confused fellow

even if you explain this language to her she will start behaving abnormally

just like the Oba explanation she remain dull claiming superman even when she don't understand the language

TAO11:
I know. The Benin one is also spelt Ogiamwen.

The earlier comment is a misspelling. Thanks for helping to catch it.

stop contradicting yourself Ekpoki

even the very one you spell is rubbish

let us assume it is even correct does that make it the same meaning as ogiame of warri?


your hate for Benin will make you cry us a river today

nisai:
You will mention everyone as if you were making sense. Why?

Oga shut up

Simbrixton:
mynd44 seun of nairaland threat to life

I think say you nor dey fear


agbi !!!

TAO11:
I think there is a new deadly strain of ‘apollo’ in your Benin kingdom. Hence your inability to see the moniker in the attachment below.

And he is correct as far as the underlined phrase in the attachment is concerned.

““Ogie” is your Bini word for “king”. Make sure to love, respect, and embrace it.

“Oba” is the Yoruba equivalent which my ancestors fed to your daddies & mommies.

It is a colonial Yoruba relic upon the Binis forever and ever. Amen!”

tao11 get a life


you claim u have a Benin dictionary with u last time

now you are here assuming meaning of words from another words

I no get your time am busy

I will advice you to get a life

Simbrixton:
eru oba dey talk I dey laugh you truly you be ozuor big one

nobody get your time

go find life

Simbrixton:
and den dey life ur people for obayunwa I pity you sha

your ogbeness is to the high heaven I swear

Simbrixton:
which oba same oba dat ran to Abuja wen small ijaw boys threaten am? Iginuwa was the snr brother of the children of oba Olua makes him snr to the Bini stool

make I show u

okhomwon?

Simbrixton:
ozuor e pain u abi

haha see Ikian dey pull he leg
akpasubi use itsekiri curse me

I wan hear u

Simbrixton:
slave of oba dey talk ijaws dey wait una for gelegele uhundan

while use Benin to insult me

I expect you to use itsekiri


akiko

Simbrixton:
we itsekiris reject you everyday and we would continue to do both online offline Facebook everywhere

you mean the itsekiri calling the Oba of Benin their father and the Oba of Benin remain unchallenging ?

Simbrixton:
e choke bros

no body get your time

go find life

Truthshots2:

That person is most likely not itsikeri, the yoruba propagandists are on full deployment trying to hijack the Olu throne.

simbrixen is not an itsekiri man

he just an imposter

it is in their blood don't be surprise

Truthshots2:


I think Oba means "king of kings", in other words "emperor". That is the translation which a French visitor to Benin empire gave in the 18th century.

he is seen as such because of the position he hold but the meaning of Oba is someone shining

if you speak edo language you will understand what am saying

all my life I have studied edo language on how to read explain interpret etc

in the case of obaseki, obakhavbaye, obarisiagbon obaradesagbon etc which are chieftency title revolving round the Oba himself

eg obaseki..... the Oba is more than business, wealth, trade etc the SE in obaseki is originally stress not to be mistaken with OBASEKI (The oba has reach market ) the SE in this other world is not stress.

obakhavbaye... the Oba decide whatever happens on earth.

in Benin most chieftaincy titles revolve around the oba, then what is the meaning of Oba ?

that is what will have explain countless times but some ignoramus decide to remain dull

so at this end no one can hold Benin responsible for their genetic tribal dullness

Truthshots2:


From my memory, that person whom you are replying is the definition of stupidity. It seems that person can't see how stupid he or she is. I gave up talking to fools like that.

In a Kingdom, only one person bears the title King, whereas several people bear the title duke.

my brother Una get time to follow person wen ignorance wear crown for him head dey talk upon how gregyboy explain everything about Oba ,ogie and the rest for her, her brain still dull forming I too know even when she nor dey understand edo language

I don still explain for her na only God know the level of ignorance she wan com display again

Iamgrey5:
Was warri under Bendel in 1979?

Was Benin the powerful monarch in the old Bendel?


Wasn't a former Olu's mother of Portuguese orgin?

So why was the law written in 1979? Almost 100 years after the first Old of warri?

Was the ancestors sleeping when someone with Portuguese blood ruled warri In the previous century?

was Oba of Benin the governor then ?

what am saying is that


the law was unanimously written in 1979 by the same itshekiri for a reason

if they want to change it, it should be unanimous

as it stand if ayiri decide to go to court he will win the case because the still stand

until they come to a unanimous agreement on the way forward regarding the law the tsola thing is a waste of time except they want problem in their kingdom

you don't see white and call it red

becoming king is no by choice but destiny so saying tsola is our choice are wasting their time when the law is there

am an Edo man I will not take side because of that
so I expect you not to take side because you are a Yoruba man

if they want tsola as king it is easy...

let them do away with the edict unanimously after all nobody force the law on them in the first place

tomorrow the king mother could be an Urhobo woman an Igbo woman ijaw woman Hausa woman even Fulani woman then causing more similar problem

Iamgrey5:
A law was written at the Benin Palace in the 1970s when warri was still part of Bedel state to prevent Itsekiri and Yoruba from reuniting.

It was done because the Olu of warri then protested to remain with Yorubas when Midwest region broke out of Western region.

They even started spelling their words differently to further the division e.g they decided to start spelling Sola as Shola

Decades later the law is being put to test because Itsekiri and Yorubas often intermarry

Case in point the owner of Vangurad newspaper(an itsekiri) married a Yoruba woman.


How do you tell an itsekiri bearing Ayo, Sola, Ire and Femi that he or she has nothing in common with a Yoruba?

so na Benin palace dem for write the law for 1979


you too dull


the only thing that would make him become olu is because he married an edo woman in order to secure his children

but this can also help him

not because one kind ooni say something

if ayiri decide to go to court with the law who do you think will win

do you think your online wailing can help issues ?

the law is the law.....

the father was not stupid he knew the law why didn't he change it as king