Kobo is somewhere ROTFLAMAOing and LOLing.

S/he is an interesting character, eventhough annoying. She is unflinching in her views and doesn't do compromise. Argues from a biased standpoint and acts holier than thou. It was because of people like her that the term "chief complainant" exists.

Maybe we all silently like her. Dislike is love's cousin you know.

Please what's rumuigbo do ikwrz cal children rumu. Self denial is the height of stupidity. Well igboz are not looking for numbers. Any person that denies us can go no be by force. Afterall majority of ikwrz don't behave like us. They even sell their fathers lands to buy drinks and are generally lazy (majority of them)

Revolt,

Very unfair statement. I do not think that there is any where that was developed solely by the indigene. Lands must be sold and bought or taken by force for development to take place.

Same thing is also said about Owerri and Umuahia indigene and even the famous Omo oni Iles in Lagos. In life, you must use what you have to achieve what you want and land it is in the case of indigene. Go to any city (including your home city) and ask what proportion of land in that city is owned by indigene.

If any of them should sell land to you, rather than mocking them, you have to be grateful that God placed you in a position to be a buyer of land rather being a seller.

Chinenye, everyone knows that Igbo language and culture are not homogeneous across the board.

Now if you are saying that he has Ikwerre parentage but has referred to himself as Igbo on several occasions, do you not find it strange that he should admonish someone else who like him, also aknowledged his own Ikwerre roots and also emphasised that he was Igbo as well ?

I find it ambiguous that someone could claim to be from two different geographical locations with equal tenacity. Yes, I know each parent could be from any of those areas but when that applies, it is only proper to disambiguate such claims by specifying how you are from both areas at the same time.

bk/babe90:


Well, wut can I say? typical Ibo, tryn to claim everything that belongs to others!!!

I do not have time for your infantile rants. Rest assured that I have lowered my standards by responding to you.

ChinenyeN:

How did he try to pass himself off as Ikwerre?

@ikwerre#1.ozila ny'iwhuroha zi nu nairaland.dieli.m'bu nwo wali rumuigbo.meka

why must you impersonate?ikwerres are simply rivers people.we acknowdledge our similarities but not to say that we are you.you are you and we are us.ikwerre#1 you are igbo.

In the first quote, he claimed to be from Rumuigbo.(Ikwerre land)

In the second quote, he separated Ikwerre and Igbo into two camps. He went further and placed Ikwerre1 into the Igbo camp and placed himself into the Ikwerre camp. “we acknowdledge our similarities but not to say that we are you.you are you and we are us.ikwerre#1 you are igbo.”

All I wanted to point out was that those that live in glasshouses should not throw stones.

I really did not owe you any explanation and did not think that I would have had to break down his statements like ABC for anyone, as they were quite clear. However, I would have been happy to explain to Egheleghe if he had asked for one.

Quote from: egheleghe on Yesterday at 07:21:29 PM

why must you impersonate?ikwerres are simply rivers people.we acknowdledge our similarities but not to say that we are you.you are you and we are us.ikwerre#1 you are igbo.

You are accusing someone of the very offence you are committing. You tried to pass yourself off as Ikwerre just to reinforce your point, but you forgot that you have claimed to be Igbo (Oru in Imo State) on several occasions. When did Ndi Oru become Ndi Ikwerre ? Let Ikwerre speak for themselves.

@ibime.oru is igbo.thats my tribe and its not lost like some people believe.

@sumime,if an average igbo man marries in his 50's,then an average igbo man in his late twenties like me wouldnt have patternal great grand dad.MAYBE,HE IS OVER 200 YEARS OLD!!!.
N.B.those traders you under-estimate there academic credentials might be more qualified than you are.at least i'm sure of some from my state imo which is by far the most educationally developed state in nigeria.VERIFY

ndu_chucks:

The earlier you learnt that in a negotiation, you don't necesarily get all you want and must give and take, the better for you. The alternative to peaceful negotiations is force - some of you people who have learnt nothing from the civil war, seem to be advocating force by your rigidity and lack of understanding of what negotiations mean.

Everyone knows that the aim of any negociation is to reach a common ground. However, any negociation based on false premise is bound to fail from the start.

Continue gloating about the civil war as if another one is a threat.

"The He-goat wey dem carry go market get bia-bia, the man wey carry am go market get bia-bia too, but na when market start we go know who carry who come"

ndu_chucks:

@Ibime, The question I meant to ask you is as follows: What other natural resources do you have in the Niger Delta besides oil, and how have those been developed? Once again, if you don't have an answer, just state as such.


@Ibime and FACE, your irrelevant rants about off topic issues will be ignored. If you have not yet figured it out, the point I am trying to drive in your skull is that, resource control has to be negotiated in the appropriate manner among interested parties. It behooves interested parties to negotiate from a position of strength, which will come through an understanding of the strong views of other stake holders.

You will never be given 100% resource control as you expect without employing the most sophisticated negotiating tools available to you. An important component of these tools is an understanding of the realities of what you cannot have, unless you are willing to use force.
You can keep dreaming all you want.

You keep referring to the use of force as if it's a dare. If that is the stand point of your representatives, you will be disappointed when that time finally arrives as it may well come to that. With a mind like yours, you really deserve to be described as parasitic.

ndu_chucks:



ngwanu, I admit prematurely jumping into the conclusion that you are from the Niger Delta area. I apologize for that - there is nothing inferior about being from the Niger Delta by the way.

Some sort of federation is in order with full resource control and an appropriate amount of tax. I would however exclude oil and gas resources discovered, drilled, and marketed, with the financial resources of Nigeria. I'd be OK with 100% control of newly discovered oil, as long as the states used their own resources to discover the oil. All existing oil will remain the property of the federal government. All offshore oil found and not yet found must remains the property of the federal government.

Lazy south/south states that have invested absolutely nothing, should gain nothing from existing oil wells.

Obviously you think that it is inferior to be from Niger delta, otherwise you wont make that patronising statement without any form of provocation or pressure to declare that they are not inferior. That came straight out of the blue and reflects your true feelings and I don't need to be a psychologist to tell that.

Furthermore, you went ahead and called them lazy and callously stated that they should gain nothing from existing oil wells because you think that they have invested nothing.

You forget the human lives they have invested and are still investing. Yes, some will die early death because they drink from polluted water. Some will not be able to farm because they have lost their farm lands. Yes, they are investing but not by choice as they would not knowingly destroy their other means of livelihood because they want oil to flow. If they invested by choice, oil would still flow but they would make oil companies to act the way the oil companies act while taking oil from Scotland i.e without destroying the environment in the process.

Talking about lazy, we all know who is lazy in Nigeria, refusing to go to school (even with all the quota system and educationally disadvantaged rubbish) begging shamelessly on our streets and embarking on killing spree at the slightest drop of hat.

With regards to Nigeria investment in oil exploration, let me see. Hmmm, O.K the centre can have back N10,000 (quite generous) cost for the pen and papers they used for signing MOUs with the oil companies. But wait a minute. No, the federal govt should first refund the millions of dollars their agents have stolen from oil revenue.

Resource control means resource control without exceptions. Why do you think that you are going to die without oil ? Very strange and lazy mindset.

By the way, SS governors are in the minority. The real stumbling block to the filling of the power vacuum in Abuja is the North.

Quote from: ndu_chucks on Today at 01:03:15 PM
[b]I have been wasting my time trying to have a reasonable discussion with you people. Your statements above makes one think that you are simpletons and ignoramuses.   Let me inform you that there are house/senate rules that must be followed and several motions voted upon before an issue is finally brought to the full senate for debate and voting.  Specifically, there are committees that must first agree to table issues for discussions in the commitees befores the issues can ever be tabled on the full floor for debate. If you don't know that a handful of senators can stall procedings, then you people are not very bright.

Here is your homework: go and find out which south/south senators belong to the commitees responsible for initiating the actions that could make Jonathan the acting president. Once you have that answer, things will be clearer to you. It is not enough to wish your points away, you need to know the facts.
Divide and rule is the new keyword that you people are using to support your denials, ko? Continue to bury your heads in the sand, until kudunkudu(or guluso - that ant-like creature that walks backwards that lives in the sand) gouges your eyes out. I noticed that people like Dede1 have come to offer you moral support on the one hand, while  calling you people idiots and fools on the other.   Serves you right.

Your dear governor Diepreye Alamieyeseigha is currently praying that the court compel the Federal Government and the National Assembly to reinstate him as the governor of the state. I suppose pointing out that that man is a thief that belongs in jail will be tantamount to using a divide and rule tactic on you. Dan tselewa!

@Wily+Wily, what will be the location of you suicide when your favourite daughter elopes and marries a hausa-fulani man?[/b]


Ndu_chuks, I have no time for dimwits and would not waste my time addressing their (your) silly aspersions.

If there is no provision in the Constitution to enable Jonathan becoming acting president, what legal standing would your fictitious (mainly in your mind) "committee" have discussing that possibility? O.K, lets assume you are correct, are you trying to say that the SS committee members are in the majority, Dan Iska duru -uwa dan tselewa mahukaci (you probably think you have a monopoly to expletives, just like your murderous knife wielding brethren, banzan yaro iska) ?

I am from the SE, Umuahia to be precise and I have defended people from all corners of Nigeria. I believe in equity and know where I stand on issues. Just because I have said that Jonathan should act if Yaradua is unable to does not automatically make a Bayelsan or Alamieseigha my governor.

Yes you are correct, Yaradua has not violated the Constitution in any way. He is simply unable to act on or violate the Constitution because he is either dead or does not have any control of his awareness.

I believe in the following and I would like to know where you stand:

1. Full resource control with 20% tax to the centre (loose federation)
2. State of residence rather than state of origin
3. Equal opportunity and merit in place of quota system and federal character
4. Freedom of worship (no state religion)
5. Smooth transition of power without ethnic bias

Ibime:

Mugu, how many seats does South South hold in the senate as compared to the North?. . . answer correctly and win a prize!

Im sure you get the point. . . if you dont, lemme spell it out for you. . . if the Northern Senators really want Jonathan to take over, there is nothing SS senators can do about it. . . by sheer weight of numbers, the North can pass (or deny) any resolution they want in the senate. . . they should stop treating the Nigerian people like illiterates. . .

You would not get a clear answer from him.

Is it possible for 18 people to dictate to 90 others ? If it is possible, how come they are not able to dictate when it comes resource control and other national issues ?

I have noticed that divide and rule is Ndu_Chuks' method of operation and it wont work. He always tries his best to instigate hatred amongst SS & SEners and creating non existent animosity . You gotta call a dog a bad name in order to hang it don't you ?

What have you people really gained from your regional rulers that you give them such unflinching support regardless of whether Nigeria is moving forward or backwards ?

Ndu_Chuks, "yes" or "no", should Jonathan be the president in acting capacity already ?

edoyad:

Almajiri face, if you like you can register your father's 4th wife's maiden name as your your new username, i will decode your ignorance through your illiteracy.
What is southern zaria in the first place ? Did your imam give you that term while he was farting in your "Face" whilst you were praying to your magic black box in mecca ?
If you have not been to kaduna to know that across the bridge means then i urge you to find any christian from any part of Nigeria who resides in kaduna to educate you.

Stop showing your ignorance Edoyad. I went to FGC Kaduna and I was there for six years, hence my reference to Malali. Would you prefer that I referred to you as Chongai, a derogatory Hausa name for you or a Southern Zarian, a term used to describe people south of Kaduna ?

I am a Christian from Umuahia Ibeku and I do not need to change my user name just to battle with you. I can feel your rage and frustration with northern muslims (Hausa and non Hausa) and I know that you are in a very militant mood so I will let you have your day.

OMO IBO:

FACE, in your attempts to dispute my comments and then make some sense, you only succeeded in showing that you really did not read my comments.

I never at any time said Enfield encouraged Graffiti. Rather what I said is this:
I am very certain about the above because I have visited the site. I have also had the opportunity of speaking to a Ponders End official and a Police Sergeant in charge of the Enfield Community Development.
I have intentionally left the names out for anonymity. If you insist, i cant post it including their contacts.

If you know Enfield very well, you'd notice that there's an open field close to Halfords.
This is where the council and the Police are trying to develop.

Again, if you read my comments correctly, you'd notice you directly or indirectly agreed with me with regards to Graffiti.
Let me re-iterate, there is/are no graffiti site(S) in Enfield but i'm sure i've seen one somewhere in London. . . . .although
3-4 yrs ago - the police and council are also aware of this cos it is in the open.

Lastly, Graffiti and other forms of art may not be lawful but some councils have realised that if embrassed, could help reduce crime.

CAPICE!

Sorry I misunderstood ur original view on graffiti. I agree with most of what you said here.

Ofcourse, I know Enfield like the back of my hand and I do get involved with council community works.

The only open space close to Halfords in Enfield business Park is Enfield Playing Fields with about 22 football pitches where I go to tap some footy every other sunday. Behind Halford is British Car Auctions and the adjacent land belongs to them.

I am unaware of any joyriding development around the area, however there is a new ongoing go-cart development in Lea Valley in Enfield. Maybe you should ask your friend again.

edoyad:

And mr ayinba anybody could decode you're a parasitic almajiri survivalist, aren't you ? Please tell us which one you are, citizen Y or real4life ? You ignorance oozes through your posts so easily that i can decipher any of you no matter how many usernames you try to log on with.

Edoyad, you have tried several times to insinuate that poor level of western education in the north is a Hausa thing and that other Muslims in the north are not violent like their Hausa counterparts.

Truth be told, you have a near even split of Christian and Muslim Southern Zarians. The Northern Muslims are generally intolerant regardless of whether they are Southern Zarians or mutanen Hausa bakwai. Poor level of education in the north is also not limited to the Hausa alone.

I can tell you now that if Nigeria were to split as a result of religious violence or the current political em passe, the south (especially S.E) would not want anything to do with Kaduna state or any other northern state because we generally do not share the same values, goals and objectives. The average southerner sees the northerners as one and the same people, primarily because they share the same values regardless of the morality of issues at stake.

Would your Nok people support issues like :

1.Resource control
2.Merit as opposed to quota system
3.Educational equal opportunity as opposed to favouring some states classified as educationally disadvantage
4.Transition of power to Jonathan in the event of Yaradua's demise
5.Equal opportunity in all spheres of life in Nigeria ?

If you could tell me how my classmates when I was in secondary school in Malali  were disadvantaged to myself or to their counterparts in community sec schools in the east when it was time to take Jamb, then I might be able to see it from your own angle.

I would advise you to sheath thy militant sword against the Hausa in your state, because they would remain your country men if Nigeria should split (unless you split from them) and it would be in your interest to be good fellow country men.

Ndu_Chuks and co, it would do you well to try and educate your brethren on the need for religious tolerance and peaceful co-existence.

Too right.
However, there must've been a reason for the police and council to co-sign to these forms of art.

I'm sure the pro's and con's were somehow weighed.
In Enfield alone drugs, alcohol and anti-social behaviours were on a high until the Police and council recognized they could be on to something positive if Drifting was encouraged.

I do not have the facts and figures but drifting, graffiti and other related forms of art are being recognised.

@ Omo Ibo

You don't have a clue about Enfield. I live in Enfield and there is a special anti graffiti team in the council. There is no joy-riding facility being developed by Enfield , the ASBO level is not higher than the national average and graffiti offenders like the notorious "TOX" are being prosecuted throughout UK.

The police and road safety in Abuja looked the other way while senseless youngsters embarked on murderous adventures on public roads.

What if the UK encouraged such yobbish behaviour, would that make it right and worthy of emulation?

The information below is from Enfield Council's website.


Tackling graffiti
Graffiti is an offence by law, under the Criminal Damage Act 1971 and Anti Social Behaviour Act 2003.

Graffiti removal causes unsightly damage to the neighbourhood and removing it is an expensive and unnecessary cost. As such, we make every effort to prosecute offenders and prevent the crime from recurring.

Shop owners who sell aerosol spray cans to underage children will be prosecuted.
Those who report graffiti vandals can be rewarded up to £1,000, depending on whether the vandal is successfully prosecuted.
We share intelligence and evidence with agencies such as the police and British Transport Police.

http://www.enfield.gov.uk/info/584/vandalism-graffiti-reporting_and_removal/62/graffiti/2

Biafran war was forced upon the easterners when more than 30,000 men, women and children were killed and the govt looked the other way.

There were northerners in Biafra until the end of the war and those wishing to leave before the declaration of Biafra were given military escort by Ojukwu to ensure their safe transit to the north. Gowon could have done the same but did not do so, and the massacre of easterners continued.

Put in the same situation, Ndi Igbo would fight again. We lost the war but not in shame. We earned our respect and our bouncebackability has continued to astound our detractors.

Why is it a nice wish to have a Republic of Southern Nigeria but a taboo to wish for Biafra. Dem tie us and una with rope ?

"Me too" syndrome is a bad. Biafra is not workable, Biafra no get land, Biafra this, Biafra that , haba. Must you take another mans medicine for him ? You hold us to a different standard all the time and you think it is fair.

Find 2008 report below. 2009 report should be on its way.

http://www.nigeriapolice.org/NPF-2008_Annual-Report-Final1.pdf

I have gone through the thread and it looks like most Southerners would like to secede from Nigeria.

Why then is it that most people westwards of Agbor come down on their eastern neighbours like a ton of bricks any time the later dare hint that they would love to be an independent nation ? Is it only a good idea when the whole south jointly secede or are they inseparable appandages of each other ?

Life is not all about "me too". If it is right for the southerners to break from the federation en bloc, then there is nothing wrong with any individual group wishing to go it alone.

In my opinion, we have greater potential as we are at the moment, but of what use are those potentials when there are forces ( constitution, nepotism, corruption, quota system, etc etc ) which continue to kick those potentials into the ground.

A simple transition of power to the VP in the event of the president's demise as stated in the constitution has degenerated into ethnic/regional political chicanery.

There is no way we can move forward like that and I think that the best solution at this point is to re-negotiate the terms of our co-existence and agree to part ways if necessary.

Those who make peaceful resolution of conflicts impossible shall find physical revolution/war inevitable. Everything has its  elastic limit and the continued existence of Nigeria as a nation has almost reached that limit and only time would tell if it would snap or return to shape.

For those who expect some form of royalty from other regions, you'd better have the military might to enforce it.