you have nothing to say so obviously you'll rest your case.israel should go back to the 1967 borders period!!go back and therell be peace.

@davidlyan. what are you talking about? what im saying is very simple.there were arabs living in the area called israel today. jereusalem is arabic is called al-quds, bethlehem is called bait-laham.ask any arabic speaker what that means and theyll tell you it means 'house of meat' so it has a meaning in arabic.hebron is called al-khalil in arabic (to palestinians) and so on and so forth.

arabs were living in that area and were the majority before the jews came from europe on ships following the zionist lobbying of western powers to form a jewish state.zionist movement was started in russia by russian jews not jews living in jerusalem who wanted a homeland.

in 1967,the U.N decided that the arabs are owners of the land but at the same time,israel couldnt be dismantled.so they carved a border for both israel and palestine giving the israeli state a portion of the land and the palestinian authority another portion hoping that theyd eventually become a state too. this was all fair and good!!and israelis started moving into palestinian land.the land the U.N apotioned to them in 1967. they started bulldozing palestinian homes to make way for jewish settlements.why did the israeli govt. have to pull out their people after from these settlements after deals and pressure from the int'l community.you often see them on t.v, the jews being forced out by israeli soldiers while they struggle and fight their own soldiers to remain on the land.this is because their occupation of that land is illegal and it is stolen land.

@tayo-d. can you even begin to compare arab hatred for blacks to western hatred?what the european powers did to plunder and systematically destroy black and african peoples is not even remotely comparable to what arabs did.arabs only spread islam to blacks in africa and that wasnt even through force,it was through trade relations.arabs did take slaves from tanzania but it wasnt nearly as cruel as the atlantic slave trade.today there are still black arabs all over the gulf especially kuwait and oman and if you've ever been to that area,you'll see that they're treated as equals.

Secondly,everybody in the world hates black people coz theyve been made to beleive we're backward and uncivilized.there isint a place in this world you can go to that people dont have a certain contempt and disdain for africans whether hidden or exposed!!but i know for sure that european hate for blacks by far surpasses the arabs.

the darfur situation your talking about makes you brain washed and quite ill informed.the so called sudanese 'arabs' are black.if you look at their skin,they look exactly like the fulani of nigeria,they're black.the sudanese govt is controlled by the arab speaking people of the north and this is coz when the british gave them independence,they said the arabs were more enlightened than the darker negroes of the south.and left the country in their control.darfur has rebels,the rebels wanted to cede from the larger sudan and no responsible govt will just allow a part of the country to cede for no reason be it china,india or america.so the govt. and the rebels began clashing and some how mercineries called the supporter of APC got involved.all this rubbish about genocide is western propaganda. nothing more!!! and you're silly to beleive what the western media puts out.

im sure you'll agree when i say the western media is evil.have you not seen the images of africa that they put out.have you not seen the image theyve created for us on a global scale.the hunger,disease and poverty that they say africa is all about.these are things that they tell the world.and you're going to sit and beleive this darfur crap.wow its all anti islamic campaign of america and western powers.coz im sure if youve been to africa then you know its nothing like the western media shows it to be.

so please go and enlighten yourself before typing anything.you should be embarrassed that i exposed your ignorance and this should motivate you to go on some fact finding missions.

@davidlyan you said "restoring" as nation is not the same as "building one from scratch" wow so you agree for a while israel was non existent and inhabited by majority non jews (arabs both muslim and christian arabs) i hope you know that arab palestinians are 40% christian, i hope you know this!!so by your absurd logic all the blacks that were taken to the americas during the slave trade can come and restore the benin kingdom or the oyo kingdom or the asante kingdom,this is all restoration abi?

@osisi,hope you know that 40% of palestinians who are arab are also christian,maybe this will change your mind on the issue since you're a muslim hater!!supporter of western aggression and exploitation.i cannot understand how you can support the west given what they did yo us black people,its the same that theyre doing to palestinians.but you people are mad,i cant blame you!

you're an indiot, a concrete one,you pick and choose small portions of whats said and attack it as if thats all i said, i asked about the 1967 U.N border partition and you cant talk on that,instead you're talking about history that is inaccurate.there were more arabs in palestine than jews.and zionists lobbied western powers for the creation of a jewish state on arab land.the number of jews living there was small.there are jews that live in iran and yemen today but so what.if there were jews living in jerusalem, so what? that means they own the area?that means jews own germany!!
again what about the 1967 partition?obviously i have noticed you're an immoral person who beleives in jungle justice and the might is right world view,you have no sense of justice making you an animal!!
why is israel stealing land that belongs to palestine?? tell me!!your focus in on history and its not even accurate rather biased and one sided.there were arabs in jerusalem and environs and they were the majority, how come there are arab names for most israeli cities today if it was so desolate and unpopulated.even in jerusalem,the arabs made up more than 50% of the population,actually close to 80% when the ottoman were in control of the area!so i dont know what you're talking about.arabs populated that area and jews snatched it away,they continued their nasty encroachment after the 1967 border sanctioned by the UN

ok first of all,ill give you that, ill give you that the flag was initially an arab national flag later modified an adopted by palestinian arabs, your qestion was "show me a palestinian flag,history etc" in 1948,arab palestinians made up 90% of the population in palestine.secondly,are you denying that jews came to palestine en masse after they were granted a state due to zionist lobbying??are you denying this fact?
What is Judaism,who are jews?if you say Abraham is a jew then i can tell you he is an arab coz it was his sons isaac and ishmael that fathered arabs and what would later be known as jews.in other words,abraham was neither a jew nor an arab.moses and christ were proper jews in that sense.judaism as a religion are those people that follow the book of moses,the torah.so technically,the history of jews doesnt go as far back as you'd like to beleive.jews and arabs and other mixed-in ethnicities were the same extact people before a certain time.this is not what we're talking about, if you talk about history dont cite romans coz if thats your standard then the whole world as we know we it will have to be redrawn.ok are you saying it was fair for

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white europeans to come to "indian" land and slaughter all the indians in a genocide?what we're saying here is simple, there were arabs living in the area known as jordan,palestine and israel when the jews lobbied from europe and got on ships to come to arab land to form a country.even king abduallah the hashimite warned the british not to earmark arab land for promise of a jewish homeland which is what they did,if your telling me that the jews owned the land during the romans then you're saying its ok for white americans to go to europe and start forming countries and its ok for black americans to come to nigeria and carve out a state or two to form a country, i mean is that what you're saying?
so if you're saying that there was no such thing as palestine and it was legetimate for jews to get on boats to come to no mans land and form a country,what do you suggest should happen to palestinians of today,they should be rounded up and put in concentration camps right?or should they be pushed into the ocean.palestinian arabs dont have the right to be a state??no?

the matter went to the U.N in 1967 and the U.N partitioned the land giving palestine a portion even though the arab population was greater than the jewish pop.israel got more land that palestine.the issue is not this historical mumbo jumbo you're talking about,romans and all that rubbish.the issue is why is/did israel move into palestinian territory after 1967.the borders were demarcated and partitioned clearly by the U.N and it was favorable to israel so why is israel moving into palestinian territory past the 67 borders.why are they stealing land??.the palestinian moderates are saying go back to the 1967 borders and allow us to form a state without economic suffocation and strangulation.but israelis keep moving into palestinian territory.its like me and you are fighting over a piece of land and we take the matter to a village cheif and the cheif partiotions the land for us and after a while you come into my area and build a hut and then you come in some more.is that fairhonestly is that fair??

the palestinian flag was designed in 1916 following the palestinian revolt against the ottoman.there was no such thing as israel then

first of all, whats you're saying is completely mindless.prior to 1917 the british promised palestinians land as in a state if they allied with them to defeat the ottoman empire which had control over the entire arabian penisula including palestine and jordan.the reason was the ottomans were allied with the astro hungarians and germans towards WW1.now that being said, the british also promised european jews who had at their base the zionist movement which was an organization started by russian jews in the 1800's.the british in the belfour declaration double crossed the palestinians and offered the area known as palestine with arab not jewish inhabitants even under the ottomans to european jews who had been persecuted for a long time.the british promised the zionists a jewish state in palestine.actually the british offered three options to the zionists namely uganda,argentina and palestine for consideration as jewish homelands and the latter was chosen.the jews with the support of the british and americans then formed an independent state in palestine on palestinian territory and promised citizenship and protection to jews if they came so european jews came to palestine en masse on ships seeking refuge from europeans who despised them. go to israel today and start asking them where their grandfathers lived and where they were from and you'll hear russia,austria,france,germany,chezch republic etc.these people that populated israel were europeans.the jewish population in palestine prior to their exodus was very small and could be compared to the number of jews who can be found all over the world,there are jews who live in modern day iran,this doesnt mean that iran belongs to jews, or does it??

again there are about two million palestinian refugees who live in refugee camps across the arab world because israel snatched their land or exploited it out of their hands.you say that jordan was a gift to saudis ok then are you saying there were no people living in the area called jordan today.the british gave the land to the hashimites to rule and this is also because the hashimites had links to jordan going back a milenium or so!!was nigeria a country prior to 1914so because there was no such thing called nigeria prior to 1914,i can go and build a country in edo state and say prior to 1914 you did not exist because you were neither a state called edo nor part of an entity called nigeria.please dont give us your devil philosophy hear.this carving and social engineering of borders was a british construct and doesnt mean anything as it is only a temporary arrangement.the fact is palestinians were arab speaking people that lived in palestine so were jordanians and this was prior to anything called israel.

ok the largest ethnicity of americans are germans,so its ok for joe the american to go today and claim a part of germany as his country because his so called ancestors lived there?is that what you are insinuating?jews are like gypsys,they dont and have never had a country,everywhere they went,they were hated and despised.even in the bible,the story goes, that moses led the jews out of bondage in egypt to get to a promised land and when moses went to recieve the 10 comandements they began worshiping a calf and God cursed them and said they would never find the promised land.or am i wrong?

your suggestion of israeli cities is stupid,do you think arabs call jerusalem "jerusalem" or do they call bethlehem "bethlehem" they have their own names for all those cities you're talking about.again its like joe the american going back to a now completely different germany and renaming the cities to what his ancestors called it. i hope this is enough for your pin hole head to grasp.please dont support murder and injustice,it makes humanity barbaric and uncivilized.israelis are clearly wrong here,get out of the palestinian territories and all will be well.dont think you can go and demolish palestinian homes and set up jewish settlements and expect them not to resist this occupation.this is what they do if you cared to watch the video link i posted.they demolish palestinian homes with bulldozers and build their own settlements, outright injustice,if i come and snatch your house today and make you live on the street,wont you resist and if i call you a terrorist for resisting does that mean thats what you are, come on dude,get smart

what davidlyan is trying to say is that there is no such thing as palestine or there was never such a thing as palestinians,they were all jordanians right?and the jews didnt come to the area in ships!!for you to even claim that israel has not or is not occupying the palestinian territories is the most ridiculous and shameful statement ive ever heard on nairaland.so theres no occupation,theres never been occupation,palestinians are simply blood thirsty barbarians who love to kill and fire rockets,they love to grow up to become suicide bombers right?dont be an idiot,do you see how absurd you soundthe so called wall that was built by israel was on palestinian territory,the west bank is occupied by israel.they only pulled out of gaza but suffocated it and strangulated it economically!!
you might want to watch these clips from 1 to 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VoR5I2dTQ&feature=related

to all of you who support israel.you are moronic!israel and the hamas controlled gaza strip had a cease fire agreement for 6 months and the agreement stipulated that isreal end its seige, air,land and sea blockade on gaza.israel refused to do this so after the 6 month cease fire expired,hamas refused to sign another cease fire since israel had refused to honour the the original agreement.hamas began firing rockets. the question here is why are they even firing the rockets into israel, whyits because israel has occupied palestinian land, what they do is they move into u.n sanctioned palestinian territory and build jewish settelments on land that doesnt belong to them.this is the crux of the matter and im sure if israel stops stealing palestinian land then hamas or whoever will stop with the rocket attacks.this is so simple to grasp!!israel is the culprit.i fell like shooting somebody anytime i hear you idiots saying israel is defending itself.stop stealing land and they'll stop firing rockets,if you steal my land,ill find a rock and stone you with it untill you give it back.they pulled out of gaza but economically strangulated it and fortified it into a max security prison.gazans continued suffering, haba, is this fair.even in your dimented biased christian consumed-israel for jews ideology,does that make sense?

@davidlyan or whatever, you are ignorant.muslims do beleive jerusalem is central to the islamic faith.the prophet mohammad ascended to heaven from jerusalem.go and read please

Now that we have all seen what Yar'adua has to offer Nigeria, do you think obasanjo's third term agenda would've been good for the country. I mean Yar'adua is useless. If we still had OBJ,Ribadu would be on doing his job and atleast ministers would be intelligent like iweala,ekwezesili etc, whats your take?

@crea8ivity
Adedibu is a different case, he was more or less the same as mugabe!! he was a crook and rigged elections. he removed ladoja from govt. for not giving him his dues (public money) as per his godfather and all. how can you even compare adedibu to ribadu, what law or rules did ribadu refuse to obey? when they sent him on a course to nipss, didnt he go? even though he knew it was a ploy to get him out of the position. but that was not enough, that theif ibori wanted more so they wanted to demote him? but why? coz he was illegally promoted? but he was promoted by the commander in cheif (obj) on special recognition and that is lawful.so the regulations say that unless he does something wrong,he cant be demoted,you cant just demote an AIG coz you feel like it or can you??the fact is they have no real justification to demote him so it is they that are not going by the rules.he is fighting for his right, why should they be allowed to conspire and harm him, his career and the position and rank he clearly earned.

@crea8ivity, you are 'as far as i can tell from reading all the rubbish you've been writing' an slowpoke. you dont love nigeria coz if you did,you'd definately realize the fact that no single person in the history of nigeria has gone after corrupt 'powerful' people like AIG Nuhu Ribadu. He is a true patriot. apart from buhari/idiagbon,who prosecuted and jailed powerful figures guilty of corruption in nigeria. we have a blessed country but corruption is murdering nigerians day in day out and monsters like you are obviously supporters of corruption. Let me tell you something, by the grace of almighty God, you and ibori and co will not succeed in turning us into a failed nation solely because of your monsterous greed. How is it possible for anyone to see ribadu and say that he is a bad man.if he only went after political opponents of obj as you and muza keep insinuating,were they not guilty?were they not neck deep in looting and siphoning public money? as a matter of fact, were most of the governors he went after not members of the PDP,same party as obj?is ibori not a member of the PDP along with obj?how was ibori a political opponent of obj to the extent he (obj) wanted him jailed?you should think before writing rubbish. Ribadu went after corruption and tackled it to the best of his ability and people like you dont even have the decency to give him the credit and recognition he deserves.its a shame!
ribadu is a true patriot and he is not guilty of any wrong doing,he did not jail innocent people,if your father or relative was jailed,then they were guilty and you have to accept the fact that your family is corrupt and dirty. ribadu helped naija's int'l image among many other things. Inshallah,we'll get rid of people with your mentality in naija so we can finally progress. you keep yapping about how he is egocentric,what concerns you with his ego? i wonder,you should be looking at his performance.why should he not fight for his right?if he was duely promoted by a serving commander in cheif,how is that illegal?everywhere in the world,there is double promotion reserved for people that have shown exceptional effort and if anybody is an epitomy of "exceptional,extraordinary,zelous" then it is ribadu.and who says he should sit by and watch envious and devious "big men" snatch away what he rightfully earned? internationally recognized and globally respected is what ribadu is today.like it or not.so you and muza are saying that he should allow the big men/ogas to ruin him and conspire against him?why?get serious.

thats a true patriot!!!if only nigerians were like him, we would be at par with malaysia in development by now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrQGVqC8TJI&feature=related

just like this picture, i dont know whats being said but cant you tell whats going on, oga ibori is being a typical nigerian bigman, the way he's issuing orders and talking lazily while the other is an errand boy who is ass kissing and , im sure you can make up the rest for yourselves.

@tpia, indeed lets wait for deepzone. but if im talking to someone yes that person will listen but the reaction on this persons face will be regular, im not talking about whether one is listening or not.what im saying is that you should study the facial expressions of all four men carefully. who looks shocked and attentive. gov. makarfi in white looks like an enforcer, he has a "she' you understand?" gesture on his face while gov. danjuma in brown gives the jist or coaching. igbenidion and ibori are paying attention and absorbing whats being said like its almost a shock. if it was regular jist.their facial expressions would be regular as well. facial expression and facial gesture is what you should look at not "what they might be saying"

look at this picture thoroughly and study their faces, thats all i got to say.

naijaking, body language is a scientific fact with proof based on cognitive science, its not some sort of mystical thing like mind reading, body language is !00% real and effective. just read up on it.

coz body language actually makes up 80% of all comminication. if you know anything about body language then it wont be to hard to figure out whats going on there!!get a body language expert and they'll analyze this picture bit by bit for you.

See how northern governors are coaching southern governors as they absorb lessons like mugus. This is the reason the north has been ruling nigeria. they're politically more developed.

auwal 87, where did you get that hausa alphabet/writing system from?? whats the link? is it really true that hausas developed an indigineous writing system??

i mean what do you think? is it real? have you ever had an experience with it? if so, how real is it?

Ok some may be asking what the hell im talking about. But have you ever come in contact with a powerful politician or public servant? like a governor or a minister? if yes, how did you act in their presence? what sorts of gestures did you make?? did you kneel or bend etc? why do nigerians do that to powerful people? or atleast perceived powerful people? in the western world, people act normal to their leaders with a measure of respect, theyll use "sir" and so on but theyll stand and look at the leader/powerful figure in the eye and converse intelligently with him or her. They'll act with dignity. You'll never ever ever ever see a white person acting the way olu maintain is acting to yar'adua in the video below. This is what i mean by submissive gestures. we complain behind their backs but in their presence, we treat them like mini-gods instead of public servants. have you wondered what effect the general attitude we show has on these powerful figures? if im a leader and you act this way, i will definitely find it easy to cheat you,steal your money and dismiss you for sure. But i beleive this is at the core of nigerias issues. passivity and submissiveness of nigerians towards their leaders. If what is going on in nigeria was in any other part of the world, they wouldve had a revolution twenty times over. give it some thought!! what warrants yar'adua to be treated that way? who is he? is he not a public servant? meaning a normal human being who gets elected to serve the interests of people like a class monitor, lugard said nigerians love the display of power but seldom realize the responsibilities that come with it. which is evidence that what you let you leaders get away with is exactly what they'll get away with.people limit their leaders behaivours after all their all people. but the way olu maintain is acting suggests that we are truly a barbaric people. notice how ancient kingdoms treated their kings, this not only yar'adua and olu maintain, this attitude is endemic in nigeria, even LG bosses get this treatment. This is proof that nigerians deserve the leaders they have, we need to change our mentality.check out the video towards the end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ0XXH4Temk

ok i see alot of people saying, bankole is now power drunk and that given his education and exposure, he should have known better. But dont we nigerians make our leaders power drunk? have you noticed how we treat our leaders, dont we act as if theyre mini-gods as opposed to public servants? do you see anyone in the u.k goinfg down to the floor and mumbling yes sir to everything mr. brown says. nigerians are too passive,too submissive to power and thats why we need dictatorship.nigerians cant even stand with dignity to converse with a poweful public servant,they will make all sorts of weird gestures (bend down, kneel down,squat,take off shoes) they will humble themselves to the point of indignity, they will kiss ass and flatter, they will say yes sir, i will chop off my arm and leg and give you, HAS ANYONE EVER THOUGHT OF THE EFFECT THIS SORT OF ATTITUDE HAS ON THE POWERFUL LEADERS THEMSELVES?GET REAL. politicians are people and they can go only as far as other people let them go. it is nigerians that say "oga", "ranka dade", this or that as opposed to a simple "sir" nigerians are the biggest pussies in the world,so scared and so submissive, if the things going on in nigeria were happening in another part of the world, they would have had a revolution 20 times over by now. all you people complaining about your leaders, how do you behave when theyre right in front of you ask that and please if you dont know what i mean by weird gestures then check out this video and see how olu maintain was acting in front of yar'adua.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ0XXH4Temk

MCcain accuses Obama of taking blood oath in okija shrine,
Obama accuses Mccain of consultung marabouts to win presidency,
Mccains's son accuses him of sleeping with his wife, incest of Mccain,
Mccain goes to supreme court to challenge obama victory, says ballot boxes were found in obama's secret muslim mosque in chicago
obama urges mccain to accept election as act of God (as if rigging election is a Godly thing to do)
Mccain says obama's harvard certificate is a forgery.
obama and mccain fight over use of siren, obama says mccain has too mcuh siren because he is republican.

why would the president drop one of the most vocal and energetic people in his cabinet? I though Yar'adua and Daggash were very close. Just recently, he praised Daggash in South Africa for his work in making it easier to open a bank in Nigeria. Similarly, why would he drop Aliyu Modibbo Umar as FCT minister, these were people that were close to him. Any inside stories??

Obasanjo is much smarter than IBB though!!!!he even said that what helps him the most is that he has a mumu face (obasanjo said this) that he resembles a mumu and that naturally makes people underestimate him to his advantage!!!
IBB made nigeria worse however, can you tell me a single acheivement of IBB? atleast obasanjo brought GSM to nigeria but IBB has done absolutely nothing!!