MrMontella:

a terrorist is a terrorist...no diluting will change the meaning of ''Terrorist''

you need to answer my question,when o heard Christian terrorist I was expecting to see Christian equivalent of book haram,Isis and the likes,but I saw american white supremacy group,they are preach the same thing the superiority of white folks ,now calling this peeps terrorist and asking why they do not receive the same treatment as isis ,bokoharam,el mecca whteve seriously betrays my logic,you gladly chose the US over the middle east ,I may not like religion in general but I know those that is more f,*cked those that can get you killed in an instant

APCmyheart:


I guess you need to go read about the highest terrorist attack in the US are commitment by non Muslims..

most violent acts are commited by non Muslims because the population of Muslims there are low,Muslim countries like Pakistan,etc also have a similar if not higher crime rate

APCmyheart:


I think you need to digest the below image..

this was why I insisted you learnt the meaning of secular,religious terrorism are atrocities committed in the name of religion and NONE of those activities fall under those group, by the way Christianity didn't enslave Africans,Europeans and Arabs did ,it was even a trade affair, you and your scholar need to read a damm book,there is a difference between an abstract ideology and a person we only blame the ideology when the person commits atrocities frequently in the name of the ideology,slavely is not a European ,the Arabs the Chinese and the ancient Greeks also had it.

APCmyheart:




LOL why did they tag them terrorist? You asking how many people did they kill


another blind follower..

dude sm am an atheist but I ask again how many people have they killed,how suicide bombers do they have,did they distabilze their region and started immigrating elsewhere?

APCmyheart:


How about we talk about the Murder of over 20million alborigines in Australia?

it wasn't religious.pls Google the meaning of religious and secular

P

MrMontella:

pure hypocrisy....in its undiluted form

this post sounds f*cked,you can't seriously call "Christian racist group like kkk Aryan nation and other peeps on this list in the same vain you can Isis ,bokoharam,you will rather live in the USA with all their Christian terrorist group than the middle east,northern Nigeria

sissoko22:
white supremacist are Protestant Christians who hate other religious groups and race including Catholic and the Jew.

and how many people did they kill

Rilwayne001:


Yes, I was once deluded, but now I'm a progressive and not a Buhari supporter.

lol thank god for your life oh,only fools still support buhari.

MrMontella:

the reconquista is a pure religious war baba



the introduction of these diseases were intentional...and i have prooof of it sire

i dont get

the Spanish were immune even uninfomerd about the disease,this was a dark age people didn't even know about bacteria's and the science behind a disease talkless of controlling it,the black death is an example,wait do you think Jews were responsible for that because they actually brought rats from Asia through their trade,then the Christian missionaries who couldnt step in sub sahara Africa because they would die of African disease, they are many examples of disease transfer from one continent to another during the middle age,if the Spaniards intendendto wipe them it would have been with gun,European exploration was based on god,glory,gold not to wipe out people,am tired of the requiconsita issue,the Americans in the north and south were both Christians both used Christianity to defend their various stance,one said it has(slavery) been through out history and Bible stories the northeners said god created everyone equal,the south were thriving economically because of free labor the north didn't want that,the north block new states entering into the union from associating with slavery bla bla bla,the south left the fought a war to get the back in fact,www.UShistory.com

MrMontella:

yes..the same way the pope gave/signed a treaty that gave the spaniards the right to embark on religious conquests of the americas that slaughtered up to 75 million people

they left because of differennces on views of slavery...i believe i've delivered links to that


was he a confederate?


[url=eweb.furman.edu/~benson/docs/rcd-fmn1.htm]Here's a book by a confederate christian advocating slavery..Richard Furman(a pastor)[/url]
i wont explain...i'd just drop links to notable sites...i cant waste my strength for nothing
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/battles/crimea/

its a personal thread...
And my ''opponent'' is compiling his...i believe so


ok bye!

the Inquisition is what you should have mention not the reqiuconsista,majority was killed by European disease just like Europeans were killed by the disease during the black plague from Asia,
No a Christian northener like 100& of america was Christian if you bring some peeps from the south that justify slavery on their Christian belief they are equally northern Christian that opposed it, someone says egg is good using his tongue another says egg is bad using his same tongue,the other leaves the house because of the annoyance,and because he fears other peeps coming to the room that are about to be told egg is good,the remainer attacks the leaver,who is to blame for the conflict?,egg,tongue,the remainer,leaver!

MrMontella:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_American_Civil_War




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolutionary_Wars


did you bother to check the group i gave you?
''black hand''
i gave you the definition of ''religious war''

even the perpetrators of the assasination...are honored with a feast day by the orthodox church...

The monarch who also declared war on serbia..is beautified by the catholic church...


why dont you list them out..


so far..all you've done is to throw insults and ''talk''...no rebutting the evidences i've been bringing...

2)this thread is a form of personal thread..and im only using the ideology of my ''opponent''..

am tired of talking go to quora or any intelligent forum, to discus this stuff,ww1 didn't start because the poo you just posted it was a very non religious variety of reasons majority was because countries had treaties they had to keep ,

MrMontella:

i believe jesus said...
''If someone slaps you...turn the other cheek..''
my mistake on the belligerents

2) it was done and instigated by christians..thats the issue...
And its not ''protection''...it was ''control''..

i just made it simpler..because i wanted to avoid long talks..

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you are mad you if someone invades Nigeria you won't fight back?,u mention that the reqouconaita was a religious when I took time to explain stuff to you starting spilling poo,dude read about the conquering of Spain by Muslim moors,
The sole cause of the war was differences on slavery.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
dude..christianity was their animus...

The Confederates believed anti-slavery laws were a violation of both thier constitutional rights and their Bible installed right.. Even the constituional right was founded on the bible sef..

The confederate president,Jefferson Davis On slavery and his reason for his refusal to abolish it..


[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis
to Revelation...it has existed in all ages,has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts — Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America[118]


... the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example —Richard Furman, President, South Carolina Baptist Convention(A Pastor)
source
https://www.kingscollege.net/gbrodie/The%20religious%20justification%20of%20slavery%20before%201830.pdf



where did you see me include this


wait..is it notable sites labelling them as ''religious wars'' that you want?

The crimean war is one of the most proficent wars with religious backgrounds..do the search yourself since you love google and love insults...
I cannot teach an insultive being

cheers

so despite my explain you still think the reqiuconsita was a religious war?,you initially said the pope had something to do with it?
the civil was started when the Confederates left the Union not because of slavery ,read anti -slavery books like uncle tom cabin,it was written by a Christian too,with a lot of bubble quotes too about how all men were equal, you must have missed that ,explain the Crimean wars in same pseudo historical ways you manage to list the civil war ,ww1as a religious war,please give American history site where they teach their civil war as a civil war,it seems I am the only keeping this propanganda thread alive,this is my last post on this thread I really don't care what you keeping telling yourself, there are people who believe the earth is flat

Seun:
Bleep all communists and fascists. I am an anti-communist, anti-fascist atheist. Fortunately, most atheists on NL fall into this same category.

Mr suen we are both atheist but I an greatly displease by the misinformation on this thread imagine someone saying the american civil war,Napoleonic wars,ww1 were religious wars

MrMontella:

i believe you saw my explanation

the french revolution was started by monarch louis xvI of france..not napoleon...he was a catholic monarch... And fought other christian monarchs...
He started the revolution under the guise of ''just war'' as his ''divine right'' gives him...these two things are doctrines in the catholic church...
2)the catholic church was a major power in french politics..and the ruling pope oversaw actions of its ruling monarchs...This is a documented fact..

Its the cause of the war that matters


lies...the reign of terror is a period in the revolution...after louis xvi was overthrown

,
it was started by Great britian..
Who were under the ruling of a monarch..George III...a christian
and sought to restore the house of bourbon to its status in france..


are your intentions just to list whatever you like?


i didnt list this,


i may start ignoring you


names can be deceiving...it is a religious war..with christians at the forefront


oh yes...religious differences over religious groups ownership triggered the war...
Instigated by the russian orthordox tsar monarchs..


perhaps what i clearly stated evaded you...
It was started by the holy league...this was a league created by pope innocent...to trash out the ottaman empire


started by a religious nationalist group called Black Hand...
I can go deep into this if you want,
if i saw a definitive connection...i would

pls you are ignorant ,American civil was wasn't even fought because of slavery it was more complex that read it up,Louis didn't start the revolution it ,the French masses revolted against him,because France was broke and the nobles, clergy,kings someone held all the money,the revolution at best was fight against those ideas, kings were killed,nobles were likewise and clergy men were stripped PFF their priveledges,world war started when an ambassador was assassinated, countries had different treaties with each other,I believe you have a lot of learning to do if you really believe this trash, stop revisioning history especially when do not know the original story,ww1 is a religious war gets you an instant F ,there are many poo you posted here that I don't have enough time to address,it is already boring as it is for zeus pick a damm book, or go to site like quora-ask about these wars you get response from well studied historian instead of posting falsehood,just imagine someone saying the civil war,ww 1 were religious wars,stop misinforming the public in the name of "militant atheism"

MrMontella:

i said the reconquista....its similar to the crusades....just that it was done by rome and the majorly the byzantine empire


and i've defined it to an extent

stop being ignorant it was done by Spain and Portugal to recover the lands conquered by Muslim, since when is it a crime to defend and fight for your life,Google Islamic conquest, about the american civil war please I beg you in the name of Zeus stop being dump Google is ur friend I spent months reading that stuff it is a lot more complex than the shit you previously wrote how about pick a book and read ,I don't even know where to start explaining a war story from,now about the German-franco wars, explain your delusions, even the Crimean war

MrMontella:

it was what pushed me to open this thread...


it was based on an argument on slavery and the confederates justified their position on advocating slavery with the bible..saying eliminating slavery was taking away their divine rights instituted by the christian God


i didnt list this...did i?

Dont know what this is?

Or do you mean the french wars of religion?


napoleon wanted to restore the catholic house of bourbon to be the reigning monarchy in france...his defence was that the house are a direct descendant of st Louis Ix and so are the divinely instituted house

please name them

war fought for religious purposes,,,caused by religious beliefs or at least having roots in religious ideas.

so the american civil war is a Christian war?no the French revolution how was it a Christian war when Napoleon invaded Spain what did he destroy Christianity or the monarchy?,French war of terror infact the whole French revolution was the most anti Christian war ever fought in Europe,started by explosion of ideas from philosophers like rataire(didn't spell it well)other guys famous philosophers,read about the reign of terror,dechristainization of France,napeolionic wars,american civil war,Congo civil war, reqonsista you even listed Sudanese civil war,the Crimean war?the Turkish war?world war 1?,kukuma add briafra jion am

MrMontella:

so listing the so called irreligious wars are a problem to you?

And you're asking me ''which blooody encyclopedia''

why dont you take a simple google search on it and download the pdf..

you enclopedia just listed American civil war as a Christian war,please oga define a Christian war

Y

MrMontella:

so jesus's teachings are null in christianity right? I.e if someone slaps you,,turn the other cheek

also...
The crusades were religious....sanctioned and started by the pope...

the crusaders happen 1000 years but you still bitching around it,what stops a Christian apologist for list Mao revolution as an atheist war with the way you are reasoning,how is american civil war,French war of terror,Napoleonic wars and other countless f*cks are Christian war,
Bros define a Christian war

MrMontella:

the irony

why are you angry?

Is it because i fished out christians and christianity's henious crimes?


where did i list out this as a religious war?

Are you trying to accuse me falsely?



likewise this...

Why do you lie?


i listed a genocide as a war?
Or an attrocity?

so because the taiping rebellion was in china...it cant be a christian war?
Such a lame reasoning


oh...maybe you should ask the authors of the encyclopedia of wars why they listed it as a religious war

i dare you to list them out..let me disgrace you here...

Maybe you dont know the church in rome sanctioned these

Merlin's Beard you are so ignorant, you wrote Christian war but all am seeing here are world wars,civil wars, genocide atrocities that didn't even happen because of religious reasons ,and these are supposely christain wars,which bloody encyclepledia listed world wars,Spanish civil war and Congo civil as Christian wars?
Bros define s Christian war

Lucasbalo:
The movement you will lead from your village in Edo. What a clown you are.

hahaha u be witch ,I literally fell from my chair,lol

aminusanti:

* Isaac 37yrs and Rebecca 3yrs

* Mary 12yrs (mother of your God) and Joseph the carpenter 90yrs

What else??

look at this lying Rebecca was already In her menopause(68-)when Mary visited her with a her pregnancy ,a cousin is 12,her fellow cousin is 68 and above and her husband whom the Bible refer to as a young man is suppose to be 90,this game you Muslims always play to justify Mohammed marrying a 9 years old is becoming disgusting .

Dongreat:
"My God is not a poor God" so sayeth the "Pastors, bishops, and prophets" in Nigeria. Yet 80% of Nigerians live below 2$ per day with very limited access to proper Toilets. It's these 80% that goes to church 4 times a week, goes to Shiloh twice yearly, goes to mountains once monthly and fast more than 40 days and 40 nights yet their poverty remain the same while their preachers acquire private jets, exotic fast cars, edifice personal mansions, and gourmet dining. The worse slavery is not the burning of the flesh but "mentality ignorant" not knowing you are still a slave despite being a free man.

Religion in Nigeria is fraud, contributing to the dilapidating state of the nation because it has made abled men to become lazy, waiting for rewards not worked for.

where do you get your facts from?

Ibime check the FIFA eleven

Ibime:


If you like you can call Iniesta a better central midfielder. As AM, he is not better than anyone.

fabregas has more goals and assist na isnt that the yardstick we are using?so you don shift post go central midfield I thought you said the don was unproductive?

Ibime:


No midfielder is the primary scorer for his team yet AMs are expected to contribute as part of the I'd primary duties.

Even if na assists, Iniesta would tell you that is not his primary duty, rather Dani Alves should be outassisting him almost every season.

If na possession, he would tell you that is Busquet and Xavis job as they make 40 more passes per game.

His primary role must be dribbling, that's why we added the PIUS to his name.

okay why has all the people with a better ball brain then you made this point that iniesta is overrated,okay tell me is fabregas better than the don

Ibime:


10 of those goals scored in Spanish 3rd division, a regional league of 80 teams split into 4 regions of semipro teams and youth teams (Malaga B, Celta Vigo B etc)

Iniestas career senior goals is 55, less than Chilavert.

League goals is 34, less than Campos (we dont have Campos cup record).

What a disgrace.

dude stop yanking, iniesta is NOT the primary scorer for his team he is a playmaker a position which he has excell for his team both club and country, he was a not good am sure there are a lot of folks with a bigger ball brain that yours could have figured it out not you.

So wenten come happen?,who the man be

MrMontella:

[Democides.

.By Germany 1933-1945:21Million deaths(war deaths not inclusive).

.European War Deaths(World War two)(1939-1935):28Million deaths.

.Pre-20th century;Native American Indians 13.7Million deaths.

.Thirty Years War 5.7Million deaths.

.1900-1917Russian Tsardom Rule (Tsarists) 1.1Million deaths.

.1885-1908:Congo Free state 15Million deaths.

.1945-1948:Poland's Ethnic cleansing 1.6Million deaths.

.c.850CE:Empress Theodora;100000 paulicanists executed.

.1830-1903 :Venezuela Power struggles : 1Million deaths.

.Ante Pavelic(Croatia, 1941-45):359,000 deaths.

.Political dreams of Francisco Franco :1.4Million deaths.

.Efrain Rios Montt's Delibrate genocides :260,000 deaths.

.Chiang Kai-shek's anti-communist purge and massacre of civilians :10.2Million Deaths..

.Syngman Rhee's anti-communist purges:300,000 Deaths.

.Portugese dictatorship(1926-1982):740,000 deaths.

Totalling 100,459,000 deaths

I don't need to be a Christian to find this post grossly ignorant and shallow,I beg you find a history book and read before fooling, world war 2,Spanish civil war,native genocide ,even wars in China ,recongista is what you call Christian war,majority of these wars have absolutely nothing to do with religion,they are rather irreligious

Lukay99:


America was never and is not a Christian Nation, The U.S. Constitution is a wholly secular document. It contains no mention of Christianity or Jesus Christ. In fact, the Constitution refers to religion only twice in the First Amendment, which bars laws "respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and in Article VI, which prohibits "religious tests" for public office. Both of these provisions are evidence that the country was not founded as officially Christian.

AMERICA may be a nation of believers, but when it comes to this country’s identity as a “Christian nation,” their beliefs are all over the map.


Separation of church and state. You also mentioned countries like England, Switzerland and France. What's the population of the True practicing Christians in these countries? Maybe between 10% to 15% yet you called them a Christian country even though over 75% of the population of these countries sees themselves as a non practicing Christian. History tells us the only time most of this countries actually practice Christianity as a religion by the majority of its citizens and also as a system by the government(which use to be same as the Church) is called the Dark Ages the time of the crusaders which is not that much different from what we have today as ISIS. History always repeats itself

lol,seriously I think what he met by Christian country was the population not the government.

jeeqaa7:
buhari hates human rights....why?

see your life, wenten concern buhari na?

MtuMsuper:
We kenyans use Swahili as the national language, and English as the medium of instruction in institutions of learning. I have no problem if you guys tried it out, it's an African language you see. When two or more random kenyans meet, they converse with each other in Swahili.

my brother it is going to be very difficult ,a country of 360 languages where tribalism still reign supreme,which of these 360 languages should we pick?

petrov10:
fucking country


the same Britain went to China, India, Korea, Japan etc these people don't speak english


China itself has multiple ethnic groups yet they don't speak english




9ja carry english for head
even the lawyers they wear that craze person wig for head like englishmen




Africa eh

okay wentin we wan dey speak?,Yoruba?, Igbo?,mtceeev