magnus.ameh:

It is time for all Aficans to realise that the western countries are not God. we are stronger than them if we hold unto our Devine values,
for righteosness exalt a nation but sin is a reproach to any people

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rdnaidoo:

The question to consider is, "What is next on the list of okays"? Sex with animals? Does this sound right or will it be acceptable because we are humans and as a result of that we have the power to disobey our creater for the sake of human Freedom. Then we are heading to a distruction of the human race. How can you sleep with a man and you are male and how can you sleep with a woman and you are a woman. Does that even feel natural. Please man! Gay rights are not of this world it is of sick minds and seriously sick hearts. How do our kids grow up in a world that has this kind of rubbish. Its hard already to bring them up in a society that is crime, drug and not God fearing. Think!!!!!!

BigBoer:
It depends on what is seen as being "in". Right now it is fashionable to bash religion , bash other cultures who don't agree with the Liberal West , and promote gay rights. If some liberal nut case starts shouting that bestiality is acceptable and gains enough followers , then yes unfortunately you will see sheep starting to agree with him , especially with the influence of social media.

aardvarkie:
People are BORN gay, it's not a choice. People who have sex with animals and kids are mentally ill - there's a big difference. A womans mouth wasn't made for male genitals but it's acceptable to get blow jobs? It's okay to bang your wife in the rear? It's okay to have vibrators and plastic twats? It's good to have a submissive wife at your beck and call to satisfy all your sexual needs? Get real man!

Anwar:
in France it is legal to marry a dead person, hows that for western law,
defend your western laws now,
Divine law is flawless if practiced upon honestly, without prejudice and not to for personal gain

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Dele]
hello folks,
the current anti homosexual law passed in nigeria is not new, they only updated it to include a ban on gay marriages. the anti gay laws in nigeria can be traced back to the colonial constitution inherited from the then british colonial authority. i beleive every country has a right to it's own laws, it's arrogant for you to sit in your country and be critising the laws in far away lands. is it right that saudi arabia is still beheading people for various crimes in today's world?, is it right that america champions democracy but sentences children to prison and still practices executions in some states, is it right that the queen or king of england is never elected by the the people, there by giving so much to one family ad infinitum??, the anti gay laws might be right or wrong either way it's a nigerian problem, let the nation with perfect laws cast the first stone!

Phoenix:
Yes lets just do nothing and not voice an opinion - ever

shoyinkapatrick:
@Dele, Thanks, this is Africa. Most of the problems Africa got today are been created by the western nations. Who are they to tell us what we want? Can we dictate to them,hell no! Africa must be govern by Africans with their believes, morals and good culture. South Africa is more or less not Africa again, so I can't blame some of then that are supporting Homesexual. Guys, "TIA" This is Africa.

justwise:

Ok, thanks for that, never knew.

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[quote author=john.a.swart]
Compromising on values has led to a deterioration in the attitude of the youth of today to the detriment of society in general. That is an undisputed fact! While I do not reserve the right to "judge" since that is God's job, not mine, there are basic premises set within numerous religious groups that condemn the sanction of homesexual practice in any form whatever. Who is right? The right of an individual to believe the principles of acceptable behavioural principles taught during childhood OR the realistically totally unnatural sexual behaviour by individuals who are psychologically unable to have a normal relationships with the opposite sex? Add to that the statistically proven prevalence of perversion within the "gay community" in comparison to others including the "swingers" and others!!!! I'm not a "gay basher" and I have no intention of beating up gays or anyone else but I hold the opinion that homosexuals need serious help!

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joel.mathope
Gay communities dont have a problem with straight people being straight, why cant they let them be what they want to be, and they claim to be a democratic country shame on them.

rdnaidoo:
Joel, how can Gay communities have a problem with people being straight. God created Adam & Eve and not Adam & Steve. Boet Come On!

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[quote author=Stefanie]
Well done Nigeria!!! I would certainly vote for this bill to pass!! Its a shame SA's Constitution does not allow for that to be banned in SA as well. .

[quote author=mbossenger]
From your avatar it looks like you are a graduate. Hopefully not a Law graduate.

irene:
You're a very sick meisiekind. Very sick, get help.

laurene:
Our Constitution doesn't allow for it because, given our country's history with human rights, when drawing up the Constitution, lawmakers tried to take into account the basic human rights and dignity of all the people in the land.
Yes, it is often not adhered to (daily) but that is why we have various law enforcement agencies, govt watchdogs, activist groups and so forth.
You appear to be a law student, I'm surprised you don't understand this.

This is in my personal capacity.

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myniek:

I can't believe this law is going to be passed in Nigeria, it's horrific. Freedom of choice and sexual orientation is a basic human right and should be fought for! If this law is passed, and it probably will be, it will be taboo to even speak of same sex relationships in public. Laws like these can only lead to 'freedom from choice', which is no freedom at all.

Richard:
Freedom of choice is a myth, Since the government decides what freedom we have it is no longer freedom. There are hundreds of things that we are not allowed to do but because we are allowed to do some things suddenly there is this liberal view of freedom of choice. If you want free choice then go live in the mountain or away from major cities, Even then you are limited to what you can do. 100 years ago homosexuality was considered a sin, yet people weren't complaining about freedom of choice, In fact, I feel that in this day-and-age there is actually less freedom of choice, hence the desire to have more freedom of choice.

RPhiri:
I say let people choose who they want to be, I don't condone homosexuality but I have no problem with it. Nigeria needs to focus on the civil unrest In the country, rather focus on creating a Bill to strength the flawed laws in that country. Once this Bill is effective we may just see an increase of foreign internationals coming into the problem, causing a budget crisis in the country and giving rise to further xenophobic attacks on foreigners and gay activists defending the rights of other homosexuals coming into the country.

Shipingana:
I am not gay neither anti gay/lesbian, but agree that they bear from heterosexual relationship, they are not aliens from another planet or animals,they are our brothers, sisters, uncles and aunts, so why not respecting their fundamental human rights as anybody else enjoys it, even animals are protected. At the end of the day we are all humans.

Manqoba Qkoba Nxumalo:
way to go Nigeria!!!gays & lesbians r a sickness in this world that Africa needs to cure

news24.com date=1323337057:

Abuja - Nigeria's parliament pushed ahead with a bill on Wednesday that would harshly crack down on gay rights despite moves from US President Barack Obama's administration to counter such legislation.

The bill was introduced into Nigeria's House of Representatives on Wednesday after the Senate last week approved the measure that would outlaw gay marriage and ban public displays of affection between homosexual couples.

Gay organisations would also be made illegal, leading some to raise concerns over whether funding channelled through non-governmental organisations in Nigeria for Aids treatment would be put in jeopardy.

A spokesperson for the House of Representatives and a cabinet minister were defiant in the face of Western criticism over the measure.

‘To hell with the US’

"We have a culture. We have religious beliefs and we have a tradition. We are black people. We are not white," said Zakari Mohammed, who is also a lawmaker.

He said same-sex marriage "is alien to our culture and we can never give it a chance. So if (Western nations) will hold their aid to us, to hell with them".

Information Minister Labaran Maku said "we reserve the right to make our laws without apologies to other countries".

On Tuesday, the US put the fight against gay and lesbian discrimination at the heart of its foreign policy, but stopped short of warning transgressor nations they could be stripped of US aid.

Obama ordered all government agencies that play an active foreign policy role to take steps to encourage foreign nations to put a premium on gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender rights.

Sentences

British Prime Minister David Cameron has already warned that his country will consider withholding aid from countries that do not recognise gay rights.

The bill passed by the senate would make same-sex marriages punishable by up to 14 years for the couple and 10 for anyone abetting such unions.

It also sets out a 10-year sentence for "any person who , directly or indirectly makes public show of same-sex amorous relationships".

No debate took place during the introduction of the bill in the House of Representatives on Wednesday and a date has not yet been set for it.

Mohammed vowed lawmakers would proscribe even tougher penalties than those proposed so far. He said "to hell with the super powers if they are for gay marriages."

‘Against our culture’

Maku told reporters after a routine weekly cabinet meeting on Wednesday that foreign nations had the right to comment on any Nigerian laws they were unhappy with.

"We live in a democracy, we live in a free country, we live in an independent country," he said, adding "some of the things that are considered fundamental rights abroad , can be very offensive to African culture."

The house has to vote in favour of the bill before President Goodluck Jonathan ascents to or vetoes the legislation.

Senate President David Mark said last week that if any country was unwilling to "give us aid or assistance just because we want to hold on to our values, that country can keep her aid and assistance".

It was unclear why lawmakers decided a ban was necessary, with gay marriage not known to be prevalent in Nigeria and homosexuals already harshly discriminated against.
- SAPA

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[quote author=Mohammed date=1323337057]
Dear USA. Imagine if you actually respected other people's views. If you accept that you are not always right, in fact, hardly ever. Imagine if you were actually tolerant, and governed by morals and ethics. Imagine if you actually respected that people, when following a religion, would like to abide by ALL its injunctions.

You cannot continue to force down a farce like 'democracy' down the throats of people who choose to be governed by divine laws. Sadly, you will always remain the outcast.

Kritesh Harpaul date=1323337057:

It's not about the USA!!! It's about what's right and what's wrong dumb-ass!!!!

Phoenix date=1323337057:

Gay people have a right to live their lives just like everyone else. it isn't a white western thing - and isn't going to go away. It is part of human nature. A certain percentage of babies made by heterosexuals will always be gay.

Juno date=1323337057:

"you actually respected other people's views" What a hypocrite you are. These views of yours are selective aren't they? As long as they subscribe to those divine laws they are acceptable. When they don't then they are unacceptable. So don't talk about respecting other peoples views, you clearly don't!

aardvarkie date=1323337057:

Well Mohammed, you talk about morals and ethics as if you have any - taking the rights away from other human beings who cannot help being gay is not moral or ethical. I'm not a fan of USA politics but you sir, are one ignorant bigot. Also, your "Divine" laws are archaic, backward and neanderthal beliefs such as this have no place in a modern, forward thinking society. Perhaps the problem is there are too many people such as yourself with an IQ under 100 that is the problem.

Moi1980 date=1323337057:

Yes, because throwing someone into jail for 10 to 14 years for being gay or in a gay relationship just screams respect and tolerance.

Vicjustice:

What manner of "luck, skills, intelligence, hardwork and proper management of money" that would enable a person (who does not have a residence permit) to make it rich (legitimately) within 3 months of inappropriate residency in a country like South Africa?
But why is it so difficult for you guys to be honest and call a spade a spade?
A Nigerian man would rob companies, cheat others, smuggle drugs, traffic humans, scam people, and yet give God the glory with no conscience, and others like you will approve the crimes and excuse the actions . . ., it's such a shame!

Mthobisi:

WOW! Looks like you gave an honest representation of whats really like! It looks pretty good. Yeah I would like to see Soweto. I heard there are 'Big malls' & a lot is changing & its like the biggest & hyped township in SA.