that selfish so if it hasn't to first hand the i hve no business helping a friend with such problem
you may have heard about a solution of something and then pass it to some one in need of such solution capish? so ask around and see if you can get a better solution to help those with supernatural probs.

please what is the best approach to this problem I need good ideas not just denial,or it exist no it doesn't kind of replies Do you guys watch The TV program call Ikan bee (sic)(something Dey) make us know how to handle this things. thanks

I see no point killing the boy for feeling natural
as he said age doesn't count what matters is love
so teach him how to find true love and how life should be played
what you did to him may make or break him it depend on his kind of person

To be frank we all have such filling at that age but we manage to keep
control not by our power but out of fear of the result of our asking and what may follow
some of  us resort to blue films playboy meg. romantic/erotic novels e.t.c some of us were caught mastubating, or foldling with our sisters and neighbores cos when we say love at that age all we know is sex in our minds and  before you know it we were 18 and 19 then action stated,  yes we got moral reformed

If you like or love what u see, is no crime irrespective of age, class,place, or custom
love can make things happen beyond natural to mystical,
when you see a dog doing it to pig you will understand what i mean
even in India there is class issue and people go against to show love and do you know what? the lower class is killed if found out(imagine)

don't be suprise y'all snazzydawn may be the one who may first have crunch of this little dodo and manage to stay out, when the guy got the incantation to ask. even if not the boy is not to be killed.

for me the boy needed to be directed properly and not shocked (some react badly to this method of corrections)
why not my boy you are okay, but you are too young  to be thinking love at this age wait until when your 18 or 21 you will understand me and other women and how love should be shown and get good results but for now people will laugh at us and at me particularly for being a dumb. ask him if he can walk naked to sch. now that he is 16?  that to show that age is some times neccessary.

yes my little boy " age is just a number but there is age of eligibility for lovers, like 19 to 22 and 23 to 30  is a good age of love with older woman but 16 to 21 is out of the norm capish? am telling this for your good and as a family friend if not i would have shown u some bad actions. so be a good fellow and wait for age 19 that's three to four years from now and then imagine my age number by that time.  go find Jesus he needs you
than i do?
you may have your fun when you took him out and subjected him to demand list wahala but the onus is on you to call him back and correct him as his elder sister it a duty not a favor
it's not late call him back and tell him why you took him out and the tell him what is expected of him at that age simple

I have similar issues with you girls wanting to be treated as big girls, they now come to my room and lay carelessly i call them to order and today they truly love me. even some married women go the same way so it has nothing to do with age alone,

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well, let's get down

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and Five(5) web cam @ =N= 2,000
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hello! people?

well all i know is that- its your decision to make though it may be hard but its your decision all the same.

Now can you because your hubby Lanre escape death and ask him to continue with his evil ways? lets say he is an armed robber will you still want to give up the fight because he escape a night of death? no sin is better than the other its just that luck carry's the day.

on the other hand, if you will take your time to see the kind of person this girl he is seeing , and know if you have anything in common that if it happen that he marries her you won't lose a thing. then ask him to marry her so that you put your energy to something useful to your family.

any way is a way, that name Moni look and sounds like Monies, may be she give Lanere good luck with his life. you may even change your name to moni de 1st abi everything na trial, Jacob answered Esau just one 4 a day and his life was changed forever, maybe that's the style you needed so grip it while it is still open.


thanks
am out of here

like Neman fall into the river of Jordan with doubt yet seventh time to see the prove of God of Israel pls try it too. it cost you nothing but reward you with Knowledge of God.

pls. make sure the bible never fall while you suspend it with the fingers gentle while you are at it.( if Gens to Rev = 200pages divid by 2 = 100 thas where the key should be tied. for get about the preface and stat at Gen to count to Rev. forget the index pages too they are not part of the holy words.)
ask it to turn back or forward when it is about to fall and guide it under with your hand so that it does not get on the floor pls. pray for truth before and and forgiveness after the execise Good luck

Ka:

Absolutely... of course I'm assuming. The thing is, you can prove the existence of a thing (if the thing is properly defined), but you can never prove the non-existence of a thing. Think about it - how would prove conclusively that something doesn't exist?

you can prove that something does not exist if you know  how to use its detector, e.g to know if oxygen exist u burn  a stick in a close jar if it burns then oxygen exist but if otherwise the its oxygen negative

@WesleyanA
@nferyn : God exist or not, i said that you meet a house empty doesn't mean it has no builder, a pot by the sea doesn't mean it has no owner?
the world was created By God and we must give Him his dues
this is one experiment for u
get a complet Bible (old and new testaments. divide the bible in to two equal parts and and get a lager key that can be handled by two fingers e.g that in lock key of 1980s now tie it in the middle of the bible, with red or black tread make sure it is firm.( the key should have it tail well in the bible while the head can be hold by two fingers of two people sitting opposite. if someone did somethin and deny it we use this method to find the person out. by holding the key with the index fingers of the holders then begin to call the names of the suspects e.g If it Mr A took this money bible turn forward, hallelujah turn, hallelujah turn, hallelujah turn, and if it turn ask it to turn back, try out one by one all the names of the suspects and see for yourself. In fact do this and ask if God exist turn and see the result then use any other book and see if u will see it turn,

now we will know if it is a trick or for real from u guys do it and let us know

i hope some the rule has begin adopted?

she is not for you and the earler u wake up the better i know a lot of people with the same problem as soon as the move on they get someone much beter. so wake up and look for your GHod giving girl. one word for you if God gives u something must It a problem to you?
so look for God gift to you and experince the diffrence. Again as your mother and sister they are women they will tell the truth. go on ask them now u are old enough! even marred women you know and free with they will help you out with the truth (GO and GET a Brand NEW GIRL and u will thank me for it)

pls say why u want a clone as ur life partner

seen how serious things are here i have joined the good shareholders of this great Temple.

and have took it upon myself as duty to market convert people bring more flock in to this temple.
to this end am asking the accountans asistanat accountants, Treasurer, Financial Secretary or any other post holders
in the name of Sacred Coconut( El- Plam, Al- Nut ) to make fund available or accessable to me physicaly via westen union
the work of this temple must be told to the world, sorry i forgot i also need cash to host a web page and posters
what do all Coconution think? yes a great Idea.

will leaving in europe change my skin colour too?
then how often do you here of Garri and Okaro soup over there? does that mean they don't exist there, then all this horror film they produce how come the play it well if the don't have some aspect history to copy?

please, share your exirence with us and the examples that are logical

i will be back soon

that you meet a beautiful house empty, my brother does not mean the house has no builder(s)
or that you meet a pot at the sea does not mean that it has no owner... it's this simple THIS WORLD HAS A CREATOR(S)

in you evolution theory is true by now will still see monkey getting wiser by the century or babies having some clear cut monkey features like hair/fur or something like that even if by very very low occurrence rates

As a child you may think good things in life are free, but now as adult you know most good things are expensive, you were shocked then you got use to it... that how u will be as soon as u meet your maker.

well folks keep it up

nferyn:

I honestly don't know what to say about your story. This seems to be very weird. Did the chimney come down in the end. Anyway, is any of this ever recorded? if you were working during the day as well as night, you may have been hallucinating because you were tired or seen things and imagined others due to being tired or maybe lack of food or anything. I don't know the context

Why is there not even one recording of such an event by an outside observer. Your senses can easily be tricked. Magicians give the impression of sawin people into two halves, sticking them with swords and the like without inflicting harm. They're all illusions.

If just one person could reproduce one of these event in front of a sceptic audience, just once> Hasn't happened yet.

@nferyn yes the chimney was brought down by the small crane to our suprise the next morning
dream does not always say things in the past as you claimed dream mostly point to the future ask most people around u.

nferyn:

Dreams are just your brain arranging the information from the past day and storing it in long term memory, rearranging some neural pathways. It uses both collected information from your past and the new information that came in during the daytime. This rearrangement causes you to have weird dreams, of which you only remember the most remarkable ones.

To have anything to say about this we need to know the information content of the dreams, , the ones you remeber and the events with which they correlate. Out of that we need to find out if these correlations are statistically significan to warrant claims of foresight. This has not yet been proven (and it probably won't be proven anyway)

Intuition is usually knowledge that is so well drilled into memory that it becomes part of the subconscience, so you can be surprised with the results because you didn't consciously go through the steps that lead you to that conclusion
Very well possible, nothing supernatural about it. We may not yet understand the mechanisms, but this does not violate any natural law.


Optical illusions or your mind playing tricks on you. It happens very often, nothing spiritual about it, even though it may seem so
that would be proof of the supernatural if the occurence of the prophecy were statistically significant. if you can have someone make this sort of claim a few times and record whether or not it happens, I would accept that as proof. (given that this cannot happen by chance)
I don't understand your point here

the point here is that you turd around and saw the person who was looking at u so secretly as if u just told about his position.
again intuition has noting to do with fore knowledge at all. you may just for instance her a voice lets of any of your close family or may be you keep remembering the person just too often with some time let's a 6 to 10 times in a week and you call to know how this person is doing in real life only to be told that the person is very sick or dead, what will come out of your mind is no wonder i keep think and remembering him. this because your spirit have close affinity to that person sprite simple. and that where intiton is aptly displayed

@Scorpio  please do your best to convice them here abeg and abeg no carry anybody near oba, them go melt so they can't be able to tell their encouter with the Chief Wizard of Benin kingdom
once again abeg. we will do our best to point it out for them here

well i like the way u guys are trying to bring in life to this issue
let me just give a little evidence to spirituality

one is dream, and 2 is intuition the being about expected ending or occurrence just like your formula in maths but mark u. just that it never happing out 100% does not mean it failed.

some people have a way of knowings of what the future or event have for them
e.g any time i feel hot below my knees i now that i may soon fail sick and within one to tow weeks it happens.

have u ever sat down quietly all alone some where in the forest or at the sea or mountain or in the field or just some where alone and you have a feeling that some one is watching, peeping or gazing at u from an angle only to turn to that angle to see the person?

some can do divinations in my place and give names and date to things in future and with time it is 100% right

@Neron even prophecy is spiritual, so what more do u need to prove that we have abstact nature by way of being spirit conscious or sub conscious? even some are active (witch, ghost abiku, obganje) and they have similar pattarns, Probable u did not grow in a typical African village, and some conservative cities like Ibadan Ilorin Enugu Onitcha. note your controlled by your origin and tradition to some extent but in general you have this inpact pure and simple

not only the bible we know we were giving this in born Authority rule over beast n plants

for example you may kill ten dogs and born a forest to please ourself and with no guilt but with just an innocent man how do u feel? even if no one is there to ask u why. Mind you dog may kill dog and no wahala or guilt, but can Man kill man and experience total peace? leave the bible out of it for now i too have my plea for some of its contents

I see so all those pastors that bind witches and wizard before God are just asking God to distroy non existing powers abi. and the native doctor that detects the unknown are just smart if not born detectives? just told me that even the scientist has no voodoo too. Boy
let me tell this real story

when i worked with NNPC Kaduna,
the Japan co., CHOIDA, came to carry out a TAM (turn around Maintenance)
we got to a point and had a problem bringing down the Chimney at about the hight of ten to fifteen story building, the crane went and hung half way it was fix and we tried again the same thing happened again the Japan guys order for much bigger crane still the same thing. they now have to order for the biggest crane from Port/h this crane is called Land and sea but we named it hulk hogan after the wrestling champ in vogue then(1989) we even have to dismantle some of the pipe-lines to allow this Hulk of crane to get into the refinery. ladies and Gentlemen o!yes we failed to bring down the chimney, oyibo man come dey laugh, its time for Voodoo. they send us home at about 10.am and even promise to record 2hrs overtime for us since its not our wish not to work. well we all ran home but i have to stay back because i do night guard at the refinery after day work and they forgot to ask the guards to vacate too. so by 11pm they brought in cows in trucks, other Night/G with me were watching from a close distance unseen by the oyibo engineers cum voodoo men and in blacks like Neengers they started to sing and dance makiba dance.

in the end they lay the cows and burn them up alive with all kind of hot drink in line with their practice. note we don't know why they were doing that, but our motives is to storm there as soon as the last man leaves the ritual ground, to do what you may ask? yes of course to feed ourselves if possible bring some home the cow meat and drink to stupor with oyibo wishkey abi na vodka hot drinks we are tired of kaikai and ogogoro, oyibo own na original.

well to our suprise noting was left for us we ran back with the greatest of all speed, my people
the grass of the field was green and untouched by any fire. the whole burning was in the air, and their gods ate and drank all the cow and drinks. we walk around the ritual ground we had to run when we start hearing unusual voices and laughter from distance. the ground was hot and kind of quaking (tell me how the nine of us had the same feelings)

so my people there is  witchcraft, even in science, they just don't show it out too often.
in my place there is a place you will go and make incantation with life ram and if your accepted
the ram goes dead on your shoulder an if not after 30min you will be asked to leave cos the gods refuse ur ram.

If there is good prayer to bring good luck then it is only logical that there is evil prayer to bring ill luck, simple. just say what we need to do. to create Orthodox practise in handling of this problem

i will be back again.

nferyn:

Why?

We have been tinkering with life since we set foot on this planet - dogs, cows, chicken, pigs, horses, goats, etc are not exactly natural wild animals. They have been created by humans through selective breeding. Biotechnology is just making all of this quicker and easier

that's the point on whose authority were men given the go ahead to go into human cloning?
I undertand God said do rule over the beasts n Plants but where HE said man is my plea for answer

am not against good investors mark you.
it's the activities of the bad ones which i know are in majority is in question here, since our Govt. are not enforcing the need law to cheek their excesses

Denial is the act of blindly rejecting the importance or value of something with the intent of alleviating the instinctual desire for it; or, the act of disregarding seemingly factual information with the intent to avoid dealing with the ramifications of accepting that information.

so make sure u don't deny what we all know to be true just because we don't want to deal with it
of late ritual killer have been working our street and people now believe that they are real un like before

if u believe in good as in church u must believe in bad as in witchcraft, cos everything force has equal and opposite reactional component
so answer the question

goodguy:

But what about those we see on TV and in churches and even those we read in books confessing their sins and the number of people they have killed?

Can they lie against themselves?

@WesleyanA i told the forum to give reason(s) for or against their wish to marry or not to marry

E.g I will not marry a clone for it is morally and biblicaly wrong for now!

not just yes i will marry or i'll never marry a clone kind of thing


keep the answers coming i will be back soon with some shocking details...untill then which side is your side?

@nferyn 2 man and woman makes the case for Gay produced baby if only a man cell did all the show.


3. It is theoretically possible to do that with identical twins as well (not so possible as the cell must mature and then cultured before cloning take place)

@WesleyanA ID twins are netural clones its ok, but they differ with lab clones by 1 they have differnt personalities(one introvant and one extrovant), 2 they are from two different cells (one from a man and one from a woman) 3.they have closer time of existance from 3min to atmost 2hours but your clone may be produced ten years later or as at when u want a clone of u

@kelvin you will be told that person A is a clone, so will u marry a clone?

@forum try to say why u fill it morally or logically or otherwise you may or may not marry a clone
not just yes and no thing

@kazey it is not that simple, the buy up the economy and dectect your politics then your policy then have more right over u that how the colonised our fathers in the past nag our leaders now capish?

this happen in our society so just say the wayout not to deny it occurrence.

some who do not have the power to bewitch pick and love one over the other like Jacob's mother;Sarah she now place the fall of her first son Esau.

and i heard that a good witch-mother will hide her son and lay in his place if it is her time to contribute her own share of blood and meat to the suprise of her other cult members the morning after, in fact i heard that it hapend that her mates started cursing her that she per took in eating their children's fresh blood and meat only to exchange her share with her old and dry meat.