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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 5:17pm On Mar 28, 2022
somehow:


Don't worry about what I end up getting online.
Don't worry artisans again online as well
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 5:17pm On Mar 28, 2022
Kingdemu:
Guy has been reluctant to act probably due to the nature of the original source of the money. Believe me no legit Nigerian will be owed 2m and will not act when he knows the name, address, acc number, phone number and every bio-data of the debtor, unless if he has a skeleton in his cupboard. An old allegation of online fraud got me thinking that making too much noise offline may boomerang with the authorities. Even Brabus' boldness and replies seem to suggest something only the two of them are privy to. Just read in-between the lines. So let's just help him continue insulting Brabus online and getting more sympathy. That's what he wants and that's what we'll help him do. Brabus you're a criminal oo


I tell you Sir, hard earned 2m in this present economy Oh. I support his calling him out but what I am hammering at is that he ought to do more than that alone if truly he wants the money so that his situation won't be like the previous but the way next keeps throwing it to his face like "u can't do me nothing" is outta this world

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 6:19am On Mar 28, 2022
DUNKA:
Dont be distracted. Every one will get his due sooner or later.

What better solution have you proferred to him or just the back and forth words. You said sooner and sooner is no time, help him retrieve his money like this week if you have anything to offer than just words here

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 6:10am On Mar 28, 2022
somehow:


Don't draw me back oga. Go and read the comment I quoted to understand the context.

What you don't know is this,you will always get the online sympathy but that won't bring back your fund. Act n stop the online dancing with some people just rubbing your back and you feel you are winning the cause, baba do what you need to do n try the people that wants to give you other ways but abeg no lose guard enter another one chance oh and let your matter end his act. �️
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:16pm On Mar 27, 2022
somehow:


Calling him out is what some are trying to derail, they want the case buried but they don't know that 2021/2022 is not 2011 nor 2015.

While I continue offline, I won't let him thrive on this thread and there's nothing any of his supporters that eat from people's sweat with him can do.

No one is against you calling him out, but don't attack innocent artisans or traders simply cause they trade with him or not voicing out on your issue. No sane person is in support of fraud or fraudsters.
Ask for directions offline on how to retrieve your money asap and stop making yourself go through all this emotional trauma here with next just taking you for a Ride. Lots of people will be willing to assist you on ways to go about it. If that 2m is really important to you, u would have done more than this nairaland calling out

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:05pm On Mar 27, 2022
Greenarrow01:


egun he has a right to post whatever he wants, but those that keen the client that was defrauded has a right to defame him and damage his business ? Even when he (blessed Sunday) has not been accused of fraud before ?
You can choose to not do business with him sir, but it doesn't make sense if you choose to defame him and his business, especially when he has not commited any fraud.

Few days ago ragpaput accused rotech here, and Sonnie came to his defence, should ragput because of that go about damaging sonnies business because Sonnie didn't support his claim ?


We can't be attacking people's source of living because they are not in tune with our beliefs, or position or what we stand for. Especially when they have not committed any act of fraud.

I feel somehows pain.
The over 2m is damn painful
But I won't be blinded to him publicly try to defame or destroy another innocent man source of livelihood.
Ps.
Me self no fit fight you sir.


Leave them Jawe @greenarrow.
Won't the guy sell without them doing business with him. @somehow, Why coerce anyone to support you or align with you, is he here because of you.
Stop bullying people to support your cause or plight, he wasn't there when you were transacting with next. You've gotten the sympathy you want and you said you have your way to retrieve your fund, so let others post what they want.
Awon agbaya kan wa ni group yi that are bullies from time immemorial n I wonder how they train/ed their kids.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 5:52am On Mar 22, 2022
rotecch77:
I Have make my point clear here
- you paid for door and you requested for refund I did so
- you paid for basin you asked for refund I paid back

Why can’t you pay me my money that is left with you ?

Any way I have make my point clear enough here.
I will not talk again about it because you will not pay so why worrying myself

Stop it already Chief
Why spend more on a project without the client's consent? If he/she decides not to pay, no Jupiter can coerce him to pay.
You refunded back n he confirmed you did but shortchanged- dispute that with evidence
Said you refunded when you didn't meet up with the agreed day/period. Dispute that with receipt but u keep saying you won't talk anymore n keep coming to say what doesn't add up.
Ur brand is getting hitted n u don't see it already, dialogue with this person already plz

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:21pm On Mar 11, 2022
Thenext:
Good evening good people, please who knows how they charge for marble/granite top for kitchen cabinet.
Cc Egunmogaji, Hajj Muftau etc

Charge as how? How they Sell or charges of artisans/tiler to work with it
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 7:14am On Mar 01, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Ans To your ??: NO
Morning sir.
You missed the Point.
Personally i don't like dirts. From my first day on a project, I make available a trash bag for my workers to use in order not litter the environment.

Talking About POP stains, which are unavoidable but can definitely be minimised with some measures, I'd reiterate again "it's not the job of pop workers to clean up the stains for you, but you can respectfully request them to help".
Dirts or stains: it's advisable to spell out the terms & objectives of a contract/job/work before you give it, so as to avoid arguments.

The common Nigerian behaviour: you will see someone eating snacks in his car & he will wind down just to throw the nylon or trash whatever on the road!!! So many examples of such disgusting habits.

But I believe you can bring people up to your standard & make them learn certain things or give terms on how they can work with you perfectly.

Ps: My post is not an attack on anyone.
it's just a call to attention.


We all make mistakes.

Well said Chief
It's advisable to spell out terms of work from start truly but I will give n recommend the artisan that does that over the one that doesn't even if his/her bill is quite high.
Cheers

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 12:45am On Mar 01, 2022
hamtabfawaz:



Good Evening Sir.

Cleaning is definitely not part of the scope of work for Pop workers. That's meant for the cleaners.

However, you can respectfully request them to clean up for you, before or after you've given the job.

Diverting poor Labour's balance after they've completed your job, just because they didn't clean up the site for you, is really not a kind thing to do sir.✓


This is just a call to attention✓.
God bless you Sir.

Nope, you are not right with this. You need not be told to know you have to do the right thing.

if you met the site you are to work littered or filled with dirts on your arrival, will you be comfortable to work in such environment?
How do you make a difference n set standard n class amidst common artisans, n does it even promote or add value to your work?
Those are edges artisans have over each other

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 12:31am On Mar 01, 2022
ChybuzzDD:


You have just reminded me of something
Please, what's the best way to clean POP stains on doors, windows and floors?
The guy currently doing my POP has already created a cleaning wahala for me

Damp a napkin with water n rub off with it. Afterwards, there are wood polish spray u can get in the market if your doors are wooden, glass cleaner for your windows-comes in can too n liquid soap with mop for your tiles. Only a professional can use scrapper for the tiles

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 12:26am On Mar 01, 2022
folmus:


Good admonition!! That's what I expected from his comrades cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

They are on top now n can yab anyhow. The only person that did well was the person that noted the sofas he didn't cover which is a good correction. How will you work with p.o.p n don't get stained?

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 10:45pm On Feb 24, 2022
somehow:


Only if a particular country and her puppies stop building military bases all over the world in the quest to control the world.

You are so on point. Ukraine will suffer the hit and still remain under the control of the particular country for allowing their soil to be used.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 4:36pm On Feb 23, 2022
KolaShangOne:
Saw this.. From a Nigerian up North.


Are you sure this is made in Nigeria Sir?
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 1:18pm On Feb 23, 2022
Shikini something

Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 12:38pm On Feb 23, 2022
DrGoodman:


Mummy forget the long Turenci, in my place they have a proverb for this kind of contest "Na person wey them slap dey owe a fight"

As I see the expensive bag and raw cash, my dada scatter grin I strongly believe the guy is very rich and peppering you to sleeplessness.

You owe us some pinchure, show us your own bags and cash. It's wrong to answer people who show cash with mere words.

We will be the judge here.



Ahhhhhhh! Assignment for person wey pepper dey pepper again! Not my handwriting oh, just passing through

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 12:31pm On Feb 23, 2022
bixton:


Everyone is a billionaire in his/her own way..........
But the true billionaires know themselves and don't talk about money. They show geninue character and not one filled/ full with/of pomposity trying to intimidate and bully others. Whatever anyone brags about and does not have is none of anyone's business. The internet is filled with many make beliefs.

If the bold above is to be true then I guess a majority of NLs fall into that category.

Baba calm down now, you are been too hard on them Nah. Awon team pompous and bully, we know them jawe. Even young chaps are busy impacting lives out there while they are here bullying with their audio years abroad

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 10:34pm On Feb 22, 2022
ArcToyin:


That is just the bottom line of their menace. Funny enough, they are recruiting young ones into the system. A 15 year old boy had once challenged me on a site.

Lol, you can imagine that gut Sir.
They still came to us this afternoon seeing we were lifting our steel trusses up for roofing. I was just laughing at them shouting n threatening hell, last last it was some thousand not to delay our schedule with their madness and I'm still expecting another batch.

It's a menace that has come to stay I think, osun state dude collecting omo-onile at ologuneru Ibadan. � Eastern n south south are worse than we even have it here.
Ki OLUWA wa pelu wa nio
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 6:37pm On Feb 21, 2022
hamtabfawaz:


Kopelli, Na Government Pikin you dey insult like that! grin


I wonder, when they will be eradicated.

Until we change the country from politics of thuggery and do or die. Those omo onile are not just doing omo onile, they answer to our politicians n highly placed people during election, when they want to flush out their opponents, get their items for rituals or cause mayhem.
Don't be surprised, they have commissioners of police and the likes on their speed dial and they have been to so many cells and back.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 6:38am On Feb 21, 2022
sonnie10:

This is a beautiful bed. However, it lacks the mastery of craftsmanship. There are no woods joinery which is signature of higher quality woodwork.
Look at this piece in my guest room. Notice how individual 2 inches woods are joined to create a pattern that formed the headboard and foot of bed. Also notice the natural grains of the wood. Everything has its own frame, headboard, foot and side.
Those are the type of details I wish to start seeing by artisans.
Anyway, how many would pay $8k to make a bed set in Nigeria.

God bless you Sir, that's exactly my point. Lots of photos, links, videos of live projects done that I can share which are hand crafted n top notch but how many of our people here can afford to pay the premium. Yes those that will pay will do and they don't make noise n rant here all time.

We are ready to pay the premium abroad but can't here when we get down.
Someone said earlier that nairaland is bad for business, no not nairaland but some c*ckhead baby adult on the property section here makes it seem so once you don't align with their School of thought.
We must demand for the best as there is no excuse for any artisan to collect someone's hard earned money and throw it down the drain but it's wrong to conclude there are no credible and top notch service provider that can compete with foreigners if you have been dealing with the bad ones so far.
The individual should check him/herself to know what might be the factors getting him attracted to the wrong artisans.

I cum in peace

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 1:34pm On Feb 20, 2022
rotecch77:

Abi wetin we go talk again, before people will talk say I Dey support the guy too much about price

Lol, kudos Chief. You are doing well SIR
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 1:33pm On Feb 20, 2022
mufutau55:


Abi you wan kill us, "The Billionaires" on this thread? smiley

Hajji M.

Kill ke, baba oh! Pikin like me no fit oh. I dey pray and work to be a billionaire too and join the geng of billionaires nio.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:31pm On Feb 19, 2022
multikolour:
actually, they are many of them in Nigeria but the nairaland know it all made conclusions without research.

90% of big interior decorators have their factory and deliver based on specification.

From Lagos to kano, Abuja etc.

Even in Jalingo the Taraba state capital a guy called Felix is doing great in that a

taraba, greet mile six people, roadblock and
Magami folks for me OH. Let's not get to gembu for now

Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:25pm On Feb 19, 2022
rotecch77:
Those that ready to pay premium for furnitures here is a guy they brought to channels tv today ……. It’s all about locally made furniture work

If they don't Gerrit, they should forget about it.
Can they pay the premium for a local product gangan ni issue. They can't walk the walk n can't pay the Price. Without them, artisans are living fine n good. Let them get their viva or vivoo or vivuuu.
The so called Chinese, Lebanese, Italians are using our guys here at their respective workshops for their productions but our imported oriented folks pay the premium.
If you know you know.
Same people that can buy imported items can't pay 100naira for a block setting or 1200 for tiling. We muueve

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:08pm On Feb 19, 2022
rotecch77:

You don’t need to be confused my brother once you follow who knows road.

Just do it as advised here, sand paper, mixed 1st coat as primer then you are good to go my brother.
To be candid with you 60k is not rip off ooo, if truly the guy is good but you can still ask him for reduction

60k reduction again Chief rotecch
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 6:10pm On Feb 17, 2022
badbreathcure101:
that's for your kind sir but I ve been on this forum for years and in my experience nairalanders are bad for business, unless you want to spoil your reputation. Thanks to Jiji some of us won't have become anything in life. They want the best, they know the website to extract the best stock photos on earth but when it's negotiation time the combine like 50 artisans and start hit their heads together then play on the weak side of the hungry ones and then come back here to say that they don't get value for their money.

Alot of proffessionals here can relate to what I'm saying. That's why you rarely see some advertising here anymore, unless the newbies.

Off your mic please,we know them already. They want to be worshipped on here, they critique others but go offensive when you are opposed to their opinion. Awon baby adult

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 4:17pm On Feb 17, 2022
Person2person:


You don't need to generalise it as 'the whole of lagos'...there are genuine leather (animal skin) in Mushin, it is sold per square meter..there are special Uphostery guys that use industrial machine for the coverings.

Let them generalize jawe, most of the best guys never advertized since they started the trade and the millions keeps finding them down to the slum they operate from.
If you get money for oyinbo, get it like we haven't seen or used imported items that were below grade n purchased at exhorbitant price before





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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 4:09pm On Feb 17, 2022
sonnie10:


One other truth. You won't find a good furniture maker in Lagos. If you want the best furniture in Nigeria both style and quality, you have to visit Ikot Ekpene in Akwa Ibom.

U don't mean it?
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 3:29pm On Feb 17, 2022
michlins:
how many people want minimalistic designs in Nigeria. You folks in this thread are somewhat living outside of reality seriously.

You guys have been berating Nigeria artisans for a few days now. If you think what we're doing is easy, kindly do it. The reason designs are repeated is because that's what our society wants. We want it big or nothing.

Being an artisan in Nigeria is very very difficult. You want to do something different whereas you don't know how the market will accept it and it's not like you have the funds to test new waters. Getting tools is very very expensive and even when you manage to get it, they will still compare your prices with what others are charging thereby demoralizing you.

What is the purchasing power of Nigerians. How many people can afford treated hardwood. The few who could simply would import it from Dubai.

Biko, if you don't want the artisans are currently making, take your own design and give them to make for you or you can simply import same.


You just said my mind, you can't even bargain the prices of the Ikea n the likes you folks ship in but we will call foul if a furniture maker gives you his/her price.
It is what it is, I know some shops that sells mushin product as foreign in this same Lagos n you people buy without hazzle. The fact is you won't want to pay a local artisan exhorbitant price for what you want cos he operates under a shed.
Beside @egunmogaji, nothing is so special with the chairs you posted that you looking for Sir

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 3:20pm On Feb 17, 2022
EgunMogaji2:


For living room this are examples of what I've been searching for. However Nigerian Carpenters have gone lazy and prefer to make all these easy to manufacture Babalawo huge sofas instead.

For the right price,you will get this easily.
"For the right price"
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 9:04pm On Jan 24, 2022
3strikes:


I don't think this is a gate...it does look like one actually..... It will be nice if someone can design a gate like that tho. But this is a TV /media console.




Ohh! It's actually a console, lovely. Didn't look closely to see the vases up. Nice concept for a gate too just that it will consume some numbers of pipes sha.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 9:18pm On Jan 23, 2022
michlins:
A gate

Not just a gate, a gorgeous gate at that.

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