Janosky:

"There is no option to Jesus", Agreed.

"You don't like throwing tantrums,But all your pastorpreneurs and you immaculateSense, have all the Masonic symbols of Pyramids, Cross & Crown in your Church, house & business premises (screenshots).

Courz says "Jehovah is Lucifer" & you Immaculate supporting that blesphemy ?
Your deluded friend,Courz is LYING desperately to ALTER my posts as well as MaxInDHouse & attach FALSE labels to Jehovah's servants & committing blasphemy against Jehovah's name, you believe him.

You are another Courz low grade

Kobojunkie:
1. If you had paid close attention to the details of what the disciples said there in Acts 15, you would have also realized that they meant that to apply only to the Christians who lived there in the Nation of Israel. The Old Law of Moses was given by God as the Constitution of the State of Israel and so those affected by it where the Jewish people whom God gave it to - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 - the foreigners who live among them in the Land of Canaan.

God intentionally excluded all other Nations from that Covenant and rightly so. So you living in Nigeria pretending to live by what God has set for the Constitution of the Nation of Israel , do so in ignorance and arrogance of God's Truth..

2. What God's New Covenant Law and Gospel in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, said to you on this matter is instead....
Jesus Christ you are free to eat anything you want and never worry about it being unclean or able to make you unclean , this since it is not what you eat that can make you unclean - Mark 7 vs 9 - 23.

So don't let me shackle you with their lies born of ignorance of the Word of God. Eat all you want to eat and never worry because Jesus Christ us God's Truth, to very Word out of God's mouth by which you are meant to live your very life - Matthew 4 vs 4.

OkCornel:


Good night bro.

OkCornel:


Please where is the 7 year treaty that was broken midway in this long story of yours?

Is it not a joke to claim a covenant with many for 7 years was in place between 66-73CE which was entirely a Jewish Roman war timeframe?

Please how does a 7 year war translate to a 7 year covenant with many that was broken midway?

What sort of upside down analysis is this?

OkCornel:


So...does that mean they are not Jews even with all the genetic testing et al?

You still haven't answered the question. Are they impostors? Yes or No.

OkCornel:


You can't give a direct answer?

Scaredy cat?

OkCornel:


Simple yes or no. Is "European Israel" is impostor?

I wan laugh today

OkCornel:


Revelation 11 v 1-3.

The vision was shown to John over 2 decades after the temple was destroyed

OkCornel:


Wetin this guy dey talk? Which one be European Israel?

Are you implying the ones occupying Israel are impostors?

OkCornel:


Bros, I am still looking for the 7 year peace treaty in this long post of yours o.

Who exactly ratified this treaty "with many" for 7 years?

OkCornel:


Just as how the agitation for Israel to become a nation was wishful thinking a century ago abi?

Like I mentioned earlier, you know nothing about eschatology.

I'm still waiting for that leader that had a covenant with many for 7 years and broke it mid-way o.

OkCornel:


Who doesn't know that?

Please read up on this and clear your ignorance.

https://templeinstitute.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount_and_Eretz_Yisrael_Faithful_Movement

See the progress made so far. The site remains the only bottle neck. Every other thing is in place.

Kobojunkie:
The movement to rebuild the temple no even begin today. It has been on for a very long time.

OkCornel:


Please name the ruler o, let's benchmark history against the scriptures.

Emperor Titus? Nero?

OkCornel:


Do you follow news in the middle east at all?

Read up on the Temple movement in Israel

OkCornel:
Hope2014 and immaculatesense,

Kindly point out the ruler in history that;

1. Had a covenant with many for 7 years and broke it mid-way.
2. Bring the abomination that causes desolation which Daniel, Jesus and Apostle Paul spoke of in Daniel 9 v 27, Matthew 24 v 15 and 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4?


How difficult is it for you both to comprehend that it's this 7 year covenant which kicks off the last week of Daniel's prophecy?

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

Please name that leader that had a covenant with many for one 'seven' abeg. I'm waiting

Kobojunkie:
And the temple was also destroyed about 2000 years ago too, or are you insinuating it will be rebuilt and destroyed again?

OkCornel:


Nah, you're still struggling with basic logic hence you're confused with the context.

1. Is the beast the Antichrist? Yes or No.
2. Anyone who opposes Christ, are they AntiChrists? Yes or No.

It's straightforward, the answer to both questions is yes.

But if something so basic is still confusing to you, well I can't help your level of understanding, if you can't get the context.

OkCornel:


Where does your 62 x 7 stop in history?

Daniel 9 v 26-27;

25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.
26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.

OkCornel:

Please tell us which ruler in history made a covenant WITH MANY, broke it mid-way and desecrated the temple?

Are you still struggling to connect the dots?
1. Daniel 9 v 27
2. 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4
3. Revelation 11 v 1-2
4. Matthew 24 v 15

It's one ruler that will fulfill all these verses, not some of it.



You need to up your study in eschatology. It's obvious you're struggling with the basics and cannot see the patterns.

Hope2014:

Jesus Christ will be killed again.....

OkCornel:


It's the same person bros.

Read Daniel 9 v 26 -27;
26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. THE END will come like a flood: War will continue until THE END, and desolations have been decreed.
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.


Look at the parts I bolded, WHAT END was referred to there?

OkCornel:


It is both. Understand the context. It's in the screenshot.

"The" AntiChrist (the beast)

AntiChrist (anyone who opposes Christ)

OkCornel:


I'm not obsessed with the beast. He's merely a pawn in the grand scheme of things. He will show up, play his role and be destroyed alongside this faulty world system.

All those speculations he's Obama, Trump etc is rubbish. But he will be easily identifiable when;
1. The covenant "with many" is in place. He will arrange for the covenant - Daniel 9 v 27
2. He desecrates the temple
3. The two witnesses arise to oppose him and his government.
4. And he kills the two witnesses subsequently.


Are you aware of any leader in the past that ticked these four attributes?

OkCornel:


Look at the screenshot again. Your answer is there.


Antichrist is interchangeably used with the beast who is the personal opponent to Christ at the end of the age.

Antichrist in the wider context is anyone who opposes Christ.

In the wider context. Satan the dragon is also Antichrist (note, not THE Antichrist) as he’s in opposition to Christ.

Basic logic and straightforward context.

If you can’t get this, then it’s fruitless discussing further with you.

I don’t know where on this thread I ever claimed the dragon and false prophet(s) are not antichrists.

Enough of the strawman argument. The answer is in the screenshot.

OkCornel:


Ogbeni, anyone who is against Christ is Antichrist. Like it’s so basic.

Why do you hastily assume on things I don’t conclude on? Can you point out where I said the dragon and false prophet(s) are not Antichrists?
You know what I mean, but you’re eager to score cheap points.
The Antichrist is also the beast and vice versa. I use that interchangeably.
If you can’t understand it, then proceeding with our discussion is fruitless.

See the screenshot below for the different contexts to the word Anti Christ which further clarifies my point.

Context 1 - The personal opponent (that is the beast)
Context 2 - Anyone/force in opposition to Christ

Don't get excited over nothing.

OkCornel:


Ogbeni, anyone who is against Christ is Antichrist. Like it’s so basic.

Why do you hastily assume on things I don’t conclude on? Can you point out where I said the dragon and false prophet(s) are not Antichrists?
You know what I mean, but you’re eager to score cheap points.
The Antichrist is also the beast and vice versa. I use that interchangeably.
If you can’t understand it, then proceeding with our discussion is fruitless.

See the screenshot below for the different contexts to the word Anti Christ which further clarifies my point.

Context 1 - The personal opponent (that is the beast)
Context 2 - Anyone/force in opposition to Christ

Don't get excited over nothing.

OkCornel:


After the government of the antichrist (beast, false prophet and the dragon) is conquered at the war of Armageddon, only then can all these be achieved.

OkCornel:


Very easy questions. Got my hands full. I'll be back to answer them...whilst you prepare answers to my questions as well.

OkCornel:


When the lawless one enters the temple and declares himself God.

Paul explained this in 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4

OkCornel:


Read Matthew 24 v 21,22 & 29;

21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

Let me know when these have happened. Don't mistake beginning of birth pangs for the days of unequalled distress.

And I've made my stance on pretribulation rapture clear on this thread and on this forum. It is a false doctrine.


Work beckons, we'll continue in the evening.

OkCornel:


You are conflating salvation for fulfillment of prophecy.

How did the Israelites and Jerusalem achieve the things in Daniel 9 v 24 especially after they outrightly rejected the anointed one (Jesus Christ) and cut him off?

That's the million dollar question. Daniel 9 v 24 was very legible and clear. Daniel's people and the most holy city are to achieve those things, not the anointed one.

Daniel 9 v 24;
24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

The question still stands, at what point were these achieved by the Israelites and Jerusalem?
1. Finish Transgression
2. Put an end to sin
3. Atone for wickedness
4. Bring in EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS
5. Seal up prophecy and vision
6. Anoint the most holy place.