Maynman:


Bro I want you to gain.
Who are the “Hebrews”? Who are the “paleo Hebrews”?

I kept telling u new tinz...u keep researching...if I explain who the Hebrew and Paleo Hebrew is to u...u will ask another question...

You are curious about me and who I am...so u wanna cease the opportunity to learn as many tinz as u can within this short timeframe u av with me...
It's very wise of u...but I won't...u know why...I was interested in who I serve...so,I did all my best to know who he is,others around him... possible substitution for him in other climes and possible mix up...like I said...I was prepared to learn and I learnt...but it took time...not in a short while...cos short while knowledge though brings curiosity but it's not good enough cos it needs time to sink in and link up...
So,digest the one I just put up der on this thread...in a months time...after u must av link them up and clear it curiosity...then...quote me and ask any question...u question will give me the hint whether or not u av digested and understood...

I will be waiting...I promise

Maynman:


I told you that he’s a cannanite deity, see you defending cannan land now bwahahahah
If not that you are dumb, “cannanite language” is a Semitic language, which language did Abraham speak?

Lol...don't u read? Or u easily forgot after u av bn schooled...? What a pity...
Must I also be d one to explain the relationship between Ur of Chaldean and Canaan to u? Must I always be d one to explain the relationship of the Hebrew and Canaanites to you?...don't u want to do anytin ursef...do u pay me for the enlightenment I av shown u in just 24 hrs?...
Now I am shown ur d semitic languages tree...u still want me to school u on the relationship dat exist between than?...
It takes alot to get to where I am...u can't just get there is 24hrs...
The ones u av learnt since ystaday is enough for u to be wiser that u were 2 days ago

Maynman:


Same Cannan land in Mesopotamia?
The ignorance is baffling bwahahahah
Where is Ur of Chaldean where is cannan?

Seems one has to be intentionally dumb to be a Yahweh worshipper of the shasu tribe.

Lol...I schooled u one the Canaanite languages...wen u claim there is nothing like dat...now u trsearch and confirm there is...now ur asking Ur of Chaldean...
Must I school u everything?
Yahweh of Shasu?
U still haven't learned?

Maynman:


Cannanite languages***
The ignorance is clear!

Lol...I can see ur short of word...but let me educate u about the Canaanite languages and why it was pluralised...no tribe can lay hold to Canaan...it was very vast the even Abraham came from Ur of Chaldean to opportunity a minute portion of the vast land...after many years while the Israelites were leaving Egypt to occupy this vast land...they had to dislodge 10 great nation's
Genesis 15:19-21
[19]the land now occupied by the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites,
[20]Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites,
[21]Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites, and Jebusites.”

The all lived in Canaan land...all this nation's or tribes av dialect of the semitic family called Canaanite languages...that is why it was pluralised.


I hope u learned...I still av more in stock...I know everything about the God (YHWH EL ELYON) that I serve...I know everything necessary about him...and I av presented him to u and others beyond REASONABLE doubt...I urge u to accept him and serve him through the acceptable way called Christ the Messiah...
Thank u

Maynman:


Old Testament was written in paleo Hebrew different from the Hebrew we have now.
There’s nothing like “cannanite language”. Aramaic is also a cannanite language.
Aramaic language is from Semitic tribe.
Of course Ugarit predates Aramaic language

See why I said your ignorance is glaring?

Lol...I am very polite but u don't research or know enough...notin like Canaanite language?... Aramaic language from semitic tribe...is not all of then from semitic tribe? Is Arabic language not also from semitic tribe?...do u even know anything?...av u even seen the semitic languages family tree before?...or are u just reading anyhow?...I thought ur wiser than dis...but ur still loading but pretty too slow

MaxInDHouse:


Whenever i remember the day JWs first came to me i always thank God that i never let go of them and each time i pray for them.

Èṣù is the same person as Satan the devil but due to failure of the churches of Christendom to produce fine fruit in the society most people are now going back to their roots with the intention of connecting the true God through those old traditions.
The truth is that all other nations apart from Israel (unknowingly) worships demons back then that's why those demons keep deceiving them.

Where are the Gods of ancient Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome? At least we all heard of Jupiter, please where are they now? Or do people think those Gods are no more?
Well God's word (Bible) revealed where they're now: They have transformed into angels of light! meaning they now bear names that's appealing to people because no sane human will like to worship the Gods of Egypt that were all rendered helpless in the presence of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
So those Gods now answer new names today {2Corin 11:14} and people are still worshiping them in mass thinking they're worshiping the God of Israel.

How can we unravel this mystery?
Well it's by carefully observing the produce of their religions! Matt 7:16-18

I believe we av settled this issue...I am Pentecostal by fellowship but I am a believer by wat matters which is serving God(YHWH EL ELYON) through Christ,the acceptable means John 14:6...anyone that does this is safe and saved...
No denomination or sect should or can lay claim to Monopoly of God's knowledge or service or acceptability...not Catholic,not Pentecostal,not Methodist,not Baptist,not Orthodox churches,not Jehovah's witnesses...no one...Christ will select his elect ones from all the nook and cranny of the world irrespective of tongue,nation or denomination.
Take this Home

Maynman:


Ugartic is one of the earliest language of the Semitic tribe.

Thank God u escaped by saying ONE OF the earliest because under the semitic language tree is West and East semitic...under the west semitic is northwest semitic languages in which under we av Amorite, Ugaritic, Canaanite language (extinct Hebrew) and Aramaic language...
The Old testament Bible was written with Canaanite language and Aramaic language...so,u don't av proof to say the Ugaritic language predates the Aramaic or Canaanite dialect of the semitic languages.


Go on...am listening

johnw47:


i have remembered that i purchased the NLT many moons ago for my e-sword
but lost it when i installed e-sword onto a new operating system, and forgot about adding the NLT back into it, i have now added NLT to e-sword again

many words can have diffrent meanings, so context is important in translating the meaning of words from diffrent languages

some bible versions have "firstborn" in col 1:15 which doesn't make sense
for example "Christ is the firstborn of all creation for by him all things were created"

^^ all things were created by Christ because Christ is the firstborn of creation < like i said
it doesn't make sense

NLT has "supreme" not "firstborn"
prototokos is from protos which means foremost and chief, so supreme fits

the NLT version does make sense "Christ is supreme over all creation, 
for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth"

NLT Col 1:15  Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, 
Col 1:16  for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see—such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.

Smile...yes I get u...but u were restricting ursef to Colossians 1:15
[15]Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
    He existed before anything was created and is supreme(prototokos) over all creation,
but I will show u wat ur missing...but ur not doing bad but restricted to just a verse...
I will use the same NLT with u...Proverbs 8:22,25
[22]“The lord FORMED ME from the beginning,
    BEFORE he created anything else.
[25]Before the mountains were formed,
    before the hills, I WAS BORN—

Let's continue...but let me clear the supreme and the firstborn thing use by NLT...note NLT is a version of interpretation and not translation...so,let's go to NLT and check the translation of supreme in Colosians 1:15 and other places in that same NLT wer firstborn was used in other passages of NLT...
The word Firstborn(prototokos)
Proto means first...
Tokos means son(masculine)
This word is also used for child bearing both of animal and man as in NLT Genesis 4:4
[4]Abel also brought a gift—the best portions of the firstborn (prototokos) lambs from his flock. The lord accepted Abel and his gift,

And Exodus 34:19
[19]“The firstborn(prototokos) of every animal belongs to me, including the firstborn males from your herds of cattle and your flocks of sheep and goats.

Now the question to u is can u or NLT substitute firstborn with supreme in both Gensis 4:4 and Exodus 34:19...?
You will agree with me that the emphatic answer is NO...but those are the error of interpretation in versions and that's why u av to compare versions with versions and then know the etymology of the word used in the original manuscripts...NLT shud av used Firstborn like other versions instead of supreme...

Now wat ur curious about is how is just Firstborn?...
His creation or birth was the beginning of all creation that is why he is the beginning and the end...compare John 1:1 with proverb 8:22...
John 1:1
[1]IN THE BEGINNING the Word already existed.
    The Word was with God,
    and the Word was God.
Proverbs 8:22
[22]“The lord formed me FROM THE BEGINNING,
    BEFORE he created anything else.

Compare
John 1:4
[4]The Word gave life to everything that was created,
    and his life brought light to everyone.

And
Proverbs 8:30
[30]I was the architect at his side.
I was his constant delight,
    rejoicing always in his presence.

I am a Pentecostal but I don't agree that the Father is not Superior to the son or different from the son...even the son acknowledge that there are things the Father knows that the son does not know and there are things the Father can do that the son cannot do...and that the Father is greater than the son...READ

Matthew 24:36
[36]“However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.
THE SON DOES NOT KNOW,ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS.

READ be below passage from verse 20 but I will quote verse 23
Matthew 20:23
[23]Jesus told them, “You will indeed drink from my bitter cup. But I have no right to say who will sit on my right or my left. My Father has prepared those places for the ones he has chosen.”
NOTE:
BUT I (JESUS) DO NO HAVE THE RIGHT...MY FATHER HAS..."

READ
John 14:28
[28]Remember what I told you: I am going away, but I will come back to you again. If you really loved me, you would be happy that I am going to the Father, who is greater than I am.

NOTE:
...THE FATHER,WHO IS GREATER THAN I AM.


SIR,DO U HAVE ANY QUESTION?

Maynman:


Hebrew is a language of the Semitic people. It’s not a tribe.
The god of the Semitic gods is El, one of his sons is Yahweh, and he gave Yahweh the isreal inheritance among his other sons.

Lol... misinterpretation of Deuteronomy 32:8-9
[8]When the Most High assigned lands to the nations,
    when he divided up the human race,
he established the boundaries of the peoples
    according to the number in his heavenly court.
[9]“For the people of Israel belong to the lord;
    Jacob is his special possession.

Let me school you because I av read all this permutations that u stock ur head with...the 70 sons of El according to a Ugaritic text written in later times 12BC after years of the first acient manuscripts and discovered just in 1929...but I will school u...

Have u read this in Psalms 83:18
[18]Then they will learn that you alone are called the lord,
    that you alone are the Most High,
    supreme over all the earth.

Av u seen it...Let me use Hebrew(semitic language family/dialect to break the above text for u...

Psalms 83:18
[18]Then they will learn that you alone are called the lord(YHWH),
    that you alone are the Most High(EL ELYON),
    supreme over all the earth.

Can u now see that Yahweh(noun) also El Elyon(adjective)

I will still interprete Deuteronomy 32:8-9 for u but let me still school u a bit that Yahweh is praised and the same as El Elyon...

Genesis 14:22
[22]Abram replied to the king of Sodom, “I solemnly swear to the lord(YHWH), God Most High(EL ELYON), Creator of heaven and earth,

2 Samuel 22:14
[14]The lord thundered from heaven;
    the voice of the Most High resounded.

There are many more..
I will still interprete Deuteronomy 32:8-9 for u ooo...I av not forgotten...but let me hear wat u will say first about the above.. debunk it or go and brainwash urself with the Ugaritic text
Go on

MaxInDHouse:


The man who translated the KJV to Yorùbá is known as Bishop Àjàyí Crowder, this man did a very good job when it comes to the case of Èṣù but since you don't think it's the same i'll take my leave, i know the eulogy of Èṣù and i can prove that there's no single difference between the spirit called Satan and Èṣù.

There is...
In the story line...but I won't like to go into that...
Am only glad I was able to use the esu analogy to let that guy know who the shasu tribe (Moab and northern edom) are and how they got to relate and stay with the Hebrew in Israel...they both speak variant (dialect) of the semitic languages...he thought the shasu tribe are the hebrew...and wanted to drive home his point that the shasu Yahweh was dsame as the Hebrew Yahweh...
I only used the Yoruba language of esu and the semitic meaning of Gideon during that period to tell show him...
He realised,so he was boxed wen I asked him just a question..."Are the shasu tribe the same as Hebrew people?"
He couldn't say yes or no...he knew if he said yes...I will use evidence to prove his error...and if he said know...he knew I will den proof to him the difference between the Shasu Yahweh and Hebrew Yahweh...
Either way,he knew he was boxed and he was wise to be silent and not answer a yes or no throughout our discussion...

He kept sayEsu is not Satan...I agree with him and I asked him why...he said because of d story line...I also agreed with him...den I explained to him...since the Yahweh of the shasu tribe does not have the same story line of the Yahweh of the Hebrew... would it still be right to say they are the same God/person?...the guy mute...he was box and started all dis his bwahahaha stuff...but I knew he was boxed and I played along.

So,I used the esu as language analogy to box him and he knew I led him on and he was boxed

Maynman:



Semitic language or Semitic languages
It’s getting boring and dumb but go on, you have to defend your deity

Those who are reading this thread do u know how hey will be feeling seeing u avin issues with spelling or plural forms...u sound like someone whose run dry of point and a down here throwing the last kick...
That's lazy

Maynman:


Your ignorance is glare, it shows you are learning all this today.
But go on.
Shasu language bwahahahah

Today?...do I sound or do the swiftness of my reply shows that am just reading...they are links and u can dash to them anytime...but it's not something u can understand in minutes without confusing ursef...
Like I told ur my sense is immaculate cos it's from God

Maynman:


Tell me more about the shasu language
Bwahahahah

They speak semitic language that the Hebrew originated from...the similarities are still there...they are the Moabites and the Northern Edomites who settled in the hill part of Israel...thank u sir

Maynman:


Tell me more about the shasu language
Bwahahahah

Lol...this will help u in future...since u dogged a bullet but no answering my question...let me educte u fragmently on the relationship that led to common ground between the Shasu tribe and the Hebrew...let this be ur take home in case u wanna broaded ur knowledge the more...


Gösta Werner Ahlström countered Stager's objection by arguing that the contrasting depictions are because the Shasu were the nomads, while the Israelites were sedentary, and added: "The Shasu that later settled in the hills became known as Israelites because they settled in the territory of Israel".
Shasu - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Shasu

That's the difference and wat led them to settle together...
Good bye friend...it's nice talking to u...I love u with the love of Christ...u are a wonderful person

Maynman:


Where did I post britannia, Yahweh worshipper?
Bwahahahah
Still looking for shasu and Hebrew tribe on the chart

Encyclopedia Britannica...

Just answer dis simple question na...are the shasu tribe the same as the Hebrew?

Though I gave u an assignment anyways...can u edit the chart?

[quote author=Maynman post=113900203]

Pele, bwahahahah [/quote

Lol...are u feeling shy?...post the full text na...
Why are u sticking with the front page...it is just a click away na...just click on it...read and post na...let others read...
I have posted it before anyway...I just want u to post it...but u are feeling shy...abah

Maynman:


Yahweh worshipper, I’m still looking for the Hebrew people and shash people on the chart.

Lol...let me help u...u posted Britannia by urself go back to it and den edit the chart...change Israelites to Hebrew and the divided Edom in to North and South...merge the North with Moab and change it name to Shasu...
Do u get the Home work?
Good boy

Maynman:


Semitic people means shem. Sigh.
Like I said earlier it’s getting boring and dumb.

Lol...click on it and read it all na...I posted it...u only post 10% of that passage...if u read further ..it zero it down to Abraham,Isaac and Jacob and den the children of Jacob...will u just read it and post the complete text?...those I did in my earlier comment anyways for those who are following


U still available not answered my question...is the shasu tribe the same has here people?

Maynman:


Copying from google, I thought it’s off hand?
You’ve exposed

Lol... exposed?
If I don't copy from wiki and britainia...u will claim I form it and is basely...so,I had to teach u in ur game by giving u reliable sources as evidence and not give u room to claim I formed it all in my head...
All praise to YAHWEH anyways...the only one true God

Maynman:


Do you even know what Semitic tribe is, your glare ignorance is showing.
Bwahahahah

Everyone knows dat Abraham was from Shem but the term hebrew,later Jews are specifically from the descendants of Jacob and not Shem...little wonder the Edomites never claim Jews even though they are from Esau the brother of Jacob...little wonder the Samarian do not claim Jews even those they share the same territory...
Do u av any tin else to say?

Maynman:


Semitic people that’s Shem genealogy.
Who are the Hebrew people and the shasu people bwahahahah

Lol...I knew it...u fell for the bait...I gave u an half truth and u gulped it and fell for it...
Now let me show u the complete part of wat I posted

i.e., Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (also called Israel [Genesis 33:28])—from that period until their conquest of Canaan (Palestine) in the late 2nd millennium BCE. Thenceforth these people are referred to as Israelites until their return from the Babylonian Exile in the late 6th century BCE, from which time on they became known as Jews.

Maynman:


Hebrew people? Go on bwahahahah
I’m still looking for the Hebrew people and shash people on the chart.
This clearly shows your ignorance, anything to defend your deity

Do u have issues with my choice of words by saying Hebrew people or u want to argue or u are ignorant and need clarification?

Hebrew | people - Encyclopedia Britannica
www.britannica.com › topic › Hebrew
Hebrew, any member of an ancient northern Semitic people that were the ancestors of the Jews



You can't dug my question...u must answer...is the shasu tribe the same as the Hebrew PEOPLE?

Maynman:


I didn’t even know that the Hebrews are a tribe, believer immaculatesense. Bwahahahah

You’ve been exposed bro.. go on

Lol...are u avin issue with my English or are ur point in the bag exhausted?...people,tribe,nation shud not be issue of contention...go on...I told u a story line and bloodline of the shasu...and how they get they relation with the Hebrew people(if ur upset with tribe)...
Tell me...is the shasu the same as the Hebrew people?
Simple...u can't answer but finding fault...
U can't sy they are same...I will debunk it as lie...and u can't say they are different...It will emphatically prove my point that language relate the similarities in the name of their Gods but their story lines differ...
Go on

Maynman:


Tell me more about the shash language.
I didn’t know Hebrew was a tribe, go on

I know u can't tell me that the shasu are
The hebrews...am waiting

Maynman:


Tell me more about the shash language.
I didn’t know Hebrew was a tribe, go on

Lol...I just explained above. .read and reply the comment and not a mistake of h and u...
The shasu are not Hebrew but are Moabites and northern edom that settled with the Hebrew during the creation of Israel...little wonder they always fight over territory during the time of he Judges...their language must av sound similar since Gideon even bear a name that sounds to praise Baal the god of Moab...
Are u satisfied?

Maynman:


The shash language bwahahahah
The shash and the shasu tribe means same according to believer immaculatesense , I knew that you were ignorant of all what you have been saying since.

I’m done.

Shash and shasu...typing error and u know it

Maynman:


The shash language bwahahahah
The shash and the shasu tribe means same according to believer immaculatesense , I knew that you were ignorant of all what you have been saying since.

I’m done.

Who said the shash and shash are the same?...

Maynman:


Bwahahahah, where did you see Hebrew and shasu tribe on the chart?
Do you know what Hebrew is?
This is getting dumb

I want u to spill it and goof but u didn't...let me save u dat...u want to say but finding it hard to say that the shasu tribe are Hebrew but no they are not...that are wanderer and plunderer hmas their name means from Moab and northern edom who later inhabited a part of the Israel with the Hebrews...and dis shows why they live and fight over that territory over the years during the time of the Judges agmfter Joshua...

Can u beat that is disclaim it?
Go on

Maynman:


This is getting boring and dumb.
Do you understand understand this tree?

Who are the shasu tribe, who are the Hebrew?
you don’t know. Darn

Even from ur chart...the Hebrew are still different from the shash...so their Yahweh is different from the Hebrew Yahweh...and in language I told u bout the meaning of Gideon which gives regards to Baal...a Midian and moabite God but that doesn't mean they serve Baal but their is wat we call language borrowing or code switching in language...where one language influence d other due to some reasons...so,the shash language and the Hebrew language may sound similar and the name of thier god may sound similar but since their sorry line,worship mode and laws and rituals differs...this plainly shows their difference.
Can't u just get it?...people are reading our chats and they can compare and contrast our bases of argument...

MaxInDHouse:


This is why you need to learn from Jesus' real spiritual brothers otherwise worldly philosophers will use philosophy and sociology to drag you into worthless arguments and then beat you in their own game!

Satan the devil and Èṣù is the same spirit person it doesn't matter how the worshipers try to brandish a spirit "by the way they rule over their adherents you will IDENTIFY them" Matt 7:16 compare to 2Corin 11:14

They are not the same person sir...they may both be fallen angel but the Yoruba esu did not play the role the biblical Satan played in the scriptures...if u are Yoruba like I am...u will know that

MaxInDHouse:
There is just One true God all others are fallen angels claiming gods dragging worshipers after themselves due to the fall of man.

But when a spirit operates in a place and travel to another place no matter the distance all what intelligent humans need to IDENTIFY this spirit is the attributes not just the names because demons are liars they will never reveal their TRUE IDENTITY to anyone unless you're closer to the true God.

The one and only true God who doesn't lie is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that's why He stick to His promises without turning left or right, He declared to Moses that He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob then told Moses His name. All other gods run from one tribe to another without giving their worshipers tenets because if they should do such a thing intelligent and wise individuals will correlate what they demanded in one place to another and unravel the mystery.

Of course today most people are trying to debunk what they read in the Bible because they are having the feeling that it was all fraud but we preach and teach them that there's no other truthful God apart from JEHOVAH the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

I told the guy the same tin...there may be similarities in name...but the identity, character and storyline differs...
He agreed but can't just accept as though this is a contest that claps for winners and flogs losers...

Maynman:


And?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shasu

U are unbelievable...I pointed out ur shasu tribe Yahweh after u av bluntly denied there is no other Yahweh but the Hebrew..and all u cud say is "And"?

Thank God ur own analogy of esu misinterpretation as shown the the hebrewyahweh that I and other Christ followers serve can't be traced to idol or myth even if he name sounds similar it still doesn't mean they are d same...we av agreed to that by the end analogy...any name correlation would av been language error...SIMPLE
Let's just cut the chase