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Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 1:59am On Jun 13, 2023
1Sharon:


Is Buba worn all over west Africa? Or quintessentially yoruba?

Yes, it is worn all over West Africa.
Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 11:31pm On Jun 12, 2023
1Sharon:


Lol. In other words, you're just talking based on your feelings.

How can discussion on the origin of Agbada be dismissed as a expression of feeling. You do not take yourself serious if you do that. So turn it around and pepper it with academic inputs. Who originated Agbada, give specifics, name ethnicity, not some ambiguous sahel region.
Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 11:27pm On Jun 12, 2023
1Sharon:


Is this discussion about iro & buba?

It is not actually. It's about which attire fitted better, or authentic, for an Ibo person, Agbada or Isiagu?

The origin of Agbada veered into Yoruba, quite naturally. It can extend, appropriately so, into discussion on Iro and Buba since some persons also brought up talks about Boubou...which infact is nothing but Buba.
Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 11:21pm On Jun 12, 2023
Guestlander:


What about Iro ati Buba? Muslims brought that too?

grin

Buba is the Boubou he kept repeating falsely and calling it Agbada. You see now.

They have no clue.
Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 11:18pm On Jun 12, 2023
1Sharon:



Sources for yorubas wearing agbada prior to Islam, not Arabs.


Its like asking for sources of the first military to fight war on horseback. Where will you find that? Any race that says they were first to fight on horseback cannot prove it beyond paper article. Paper article also claimed Columbus found America, which native Americans dispute.

So how do you use source to make a proof without swallowing bias?

Get away from source. I gave you enough info that correlated in support.

Bring me origin of Agbada if it is not Yoruba. Which ethnic group originated it?
Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 11:11pm On Jun 12, 2023
NoToPile:
This agbada origin matter again?


Okay Yorubas have made a version of it their traditional wear for a very very long while and northerners wear another version of it shikena



Most of the agbada being sewn nowadays sef no carry weight again, agbada plus buba and sokoto used to be 10 full yards grin


Na Yoruba originate Agbada.

Look, the Arewa symbol that Northern people put on everything, na Yoruba own am.

It is taboo in Islam to identify with image, or so Notherners thought. Right about 1957 when colonial government was looking for a symbol that each region will use for self identification, Hausa North turned down every symbol proposed and claimed it was not in line with Islam. So in frustration, colonial govt began using the Solomon Knot (which is an ancient totem and a heirloom of Yoruba royalty) for any document and state symbol for North. Thats how it became an official symbol for them. Luckily we have pictures of Yoruba Obas that predated 1957 and you can see the weave on their Agbada. However, no picture or representation of the symbol anywhere in North prior to its 1957 adoption. The specific lineage of this totem is Oranmiyan. He bequeathed it to Oyo. From Oyo it gained wide usage in Yoruba.

Dont play with Yoruba when it comes to archived history and culture. We are originators.

I will even go further and say there is a very expensive clothing worn by Ibo women and is called George. Its origin is Yoruba and it was a weave pattern. In modern times that pattern would be patented. The specific Yoruba group that owned and made the weave was Ijebu.

Now, how did it get to Ibo?

Itsekiri traded it with portuguese merchants. From them it got to Calabar. Feom Calabar to Iboland.

I will teach Ibo history of its ancestral journey from nude to semi nude to this modern time copying Yoruba dress style and urbanism.

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Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 10:43pm On Jun 12, 2023
1Sharon:


Source please? Because most sources prove the opposite


Pre-islam Arabs wore Agbada or what they call Kaftan, because MENA is a deserted and arid climate. They needed to dress that way to protect themselves from the harsh sun and sand. Climate created your culture and influences religion.

My dear kaftan originated from Indians. It was never an Arabian dress.

Una no know who I be ni, abi Obi don take Hero beer scatter una recollection.

This is Imperial Yoruba! The one and only Emperor in Nairaland!

We fit argue till next year on this issue, one by one i go dey open ya eye to see how Agbada take originate from Yoruba.
Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 10:37pm On Jun 12, 2023
1Sharon:


Source please? Because most sources prove the opposite


Pre-islam Arabs wore Agbada or what they call Kaftan, because MENA is a deserted and arid climate. They needed to dress that way to protect themselves from the harsh sun and sand. Climate created your culture and influences religion.

Go in the Quran for source about the tribes of Mecca before Islam.

Go to IMDB and retrieve film records including documentaries on the culture and dress habits of Arabia.
Politics / Next: Nass Leadership Election by ImperialYoruba: 9:55pm On Jun 12, 2023
Who wins, who loose?

APC behind Akpabio
LP behind Yari.

Come back tomorrow and get result. grin

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Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 9:47pm On Jun 12, 2023
1Sharon:


You just came here and attempted to do your own razzmatazz.


Why is the cognate of agbada, abaya?

Are yorubas desert dwellers? Have they been Muslims since the beginning of time?

You're just proving the point I made.

It came from foreign Muslims. The same people that brought the religion to yorubas, brought the attire with them.


The same thing with the boubou dress.

There is nothing muslim with Agbada or Abaya. This is your own false understanding.

Before Islam, the ancient dwellers of Yoruba Ife wore Agbada. Islam originated in Mecca, before Islam Mecca was occupied by orisha worshippers, they wore Agbada.

Christians in Mali, Mauritania, Egypt, Morocco,all wear Agbada or BouBou that they call it, and likewise Christians of Sahel wear Babanriga or whatever name that they call it.

In a nutshell, you are attributing Agbada to Islam. This is wrong. I am telling you Agbada existed before Islam, and its origin is Yoruba.

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Art, Graphics & Video / Re: Bamaiyi Art: Why I Painted Tinubu, Peter Obi And Atiku by ImperialYoruba: 6:27pm On Jun 12, 2023
Kcitytv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWYeAZ-Thf8


I met the famous Moral mural artist Bamaiyi art's , interview him about how he started and his journey so far


Bamaiyi Danladi 🇳🇬 (@bamaiyidanladiart) ...
Nigerian street artist, contemporary artist, and peace activist.

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Politics / Re: President Tinubu Signs Student Loan Bill Into Law (Pictures) by ImperialYoruba: 6:23pm On Jun 12, 2023
Billmos:
God bless mr president finally d best brain from poor families will now have fresh breath at last.university education is now for all jagaban for 2nd term unopposed.

Exactly! This is bringing equality of opportunity closer to all.

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Politics / Re: President Tinubu Signs Student Loan Bill Into Law (Pictures) by ImperialYoruba: 6:20pm On Jun 12, 2023
The greatest beneficiaries are parents.

I congratulate parents and rejoice with them on this bill.

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Politics / Re: President Tinubu Signs Student Loan Bill Into Law (Pictures) by ImperialYoruba: 6:18pm On Jun 12, 2023
ManWater:

Well, we'll wait for details of the scheme but it seems the only chance of repayment would be if the student graduates & becomes gainfully employed.

I think you should substitute earnings/income in place of gainful employment.

A person who inherited an estate may not be employed but end up with income to repay the loan. There could also be govt intervention programs to help offset/forgive the loan, either partial or in full.

Say for instance govt is trying to recruit into an area of occupation that is not attractive to graduates, like teaching or civil defense. They might target student loan beneficiaries with forgiveness offers in lieu of tenured service.

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Politics / Re: For A Second Time; What Have The People Of SE Don Wrong. by ImperialYoruba: 6:07pm On Jun 12, 2023
Rich4god:
Me I don tire for the thing I dey see for nairaland.

I keep seeing that igbos hate other tribe, I keep seeing that igbos do not respect their host.... I keep seeing all sort of things.

But I ask again, what have the Igbos done wrong in Nigeria.?

The Igbos are scattered all over Nigeria, but I have never seen or heard where the Igbos fought the local community and take over their land. All the land, houses, and shops that we own, we bought or rented it. We did not demolish anybody's house, we didn't kill and stole their land yet we are been called all sort of names.
There have been too many riots in the past. There have been riots in the north, in South west targeted against one tribe or religion, but I am not sure that there have ever been a riot I the east targeted against the yorubas or the hausas, except for now that UGM and IPOD issue sprang up. Yet they say we hate other tribes.

There have been fighting Several times between the hausa and yorubas in the south west over little issue... Am yet to see any region where there was a fighting between the Igbos and the locals. Yet they said na the igbo dey cause trouble, whilst all we need is just a place to do business.

They said Igbos don't welcome people to their region, but am yet to see where a group of people where chased out from the east for the sole reason that they are not Igbo. A little traveling in the east will reveal to high the high population of hausas residing in the east, despite the issue of UGM, a lot of them are still there. It is not our fault that some people have refused to travel out of their region.

They said we don't give people land. If you have your money, go to the east and look for land, you will see and buy. When we went to other regions, we bought land with our money, no govt agency gave us land free.
So when you get to the east, look for land and buy, then come back and tell us if you were denied the land because you are Igbo.

Who in their right mind can witness what you do to discriminate against your fellow ibos, and then bring his investment to the land of discrimination to test his luck?

I open eye dey look you deny Anambra man to buy land because osu must not own property, you deny Ebonyi man and chase him away to his state, you threatened to rape Imo widower if she does not vacate her deceased husband house in 48hrs and return to her state. No, i dont want to come and test my luck with real estate in SE. Keep your land.

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Politics / Re: President Tinubu Signs Student Loan Bill Into Law (Pictures) by ImperialYoruba: 5:52pm On Jun 12, 2023
ManWater:
This is good.
But they can as well call it Scholarship because no student will pay back a loan.

First, Legendhero, thanks for bringing this news to Nairaland. Very positive outlook.


Manwater, it is not scholarship.

Scholarship is govt assistance. A loan is self assistance through banks. However, govt will guarantee the deficits.

So say someone take loan and go to university and graduates, then start working. Bank can followup with their employer, govt or private sector, to begin deducting payback for the loan. It is interest free so whatever they took in loan isbwhat they pay.

Scholarship on the other hand does not ask for payback.

Got it?

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Politics / Re: 10th NASS: Hope Dims For Akpabio, As Over 70 Senators-elect Back Yari by ImperialYoruba: 5:34pm On Jun 12, 2023
nairavsdollars:
Ahead of tomorrow’s inauguration of the 10th National Assembly, there are strong indications that former Zamfara state governor, Abdul’Aziz Yari may emerge the next Senate President given the support he has received so far from the senators-elect.
Yari will slug it out with former governor of Akwa-Ibom state, Senator Godswill Akpabio who is the preferred candidate of the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC).

Speaking in a chat with our correspondent, a former Minister who is also a key part in the leadership tussle of the 10th NASS said over 70 senators-elect out of the 109 members have pledged their support for Yari based on certain factors.

He listed the factors as religion, the need for an independent judiociary, role of outgoing Senate President, Ahmad Lawan and the indifference of the president, Bola Ahmed Tinubu to Akpabio’s senate presidency ambition.

According to him “ APC has 59 senators-elect, Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) has 36. The Labour Party (LP) has 8. New Nigeria Peoples Party (NNPP) and Social Democratic Party (SDP) both have 2 members each while the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA) and Young Progressives Party (YPP) both have 1 member each”.

“From what is on ground, Yari is the man to beat. The number of votes required to win is 55, as we are speaking today, Yari has about 70 senators-elect with him. Many of the senators are backing Yari because of two main issues”.

“First, those backing him are angry because the presidency and APC leadership are bringing up religion. If you didn’t play up religion in your time during the presidential election and you said religion is not an issue, then it won’t be an issue now”.
“Two, many of the senators-elect want a truly independent legislature which they believe Akpabio cannot provide. They believe Yari has the experience and ability to hold the executive responsible if the need arises.
“For the House of Reps speakership, the APC succeeded in getting Betara to step down because of the influence of the Speaker, Femi Gbajabiamila who has been appointed as the Chief of Staff to the president. They were able to strike a deal with Betara which he agreed to. However in the Senate, the incumbent Senate President Ahmad Lawan is backing Yari and he has mobilised many of the senators-elect for him”.
“Also, you can’t underrate the North-West having given you that kind of vote in the presidential election. In fact, the entire North-West is unhappy with the president for not throwing his weight behind Yari”.

“The truth is that Akpabio is not really the candidate the president wanted. Some people, because of their selfish interests just went to sold his candidacy to him, saying because he (Akpabio) stepped down for him during the primaries. That is why the president didn’t really push on the issue of the Senate. Given the kind of political strategist he is and the powers he has now , if President Tinubu really wants Yari to step down, he knows what to do and those he can use to talk to him” the former Minister said.
https://worldviewafrica.com/senate-presidency-hope-dims-for-akpabio-as-over-70-senators-elect-back-yari/

Na so una go write grammar, take analyze, counter analyze, talk shit about Jagaban, but Tinubu siddon for corner quiet, dey eye una. Then result go come out and Tinubu don snatch victory for hin candidate. Then you will begin lament about rigging.

Under estimate Jagaban at your own peril!

Get out of nairaland and go use this grammar campaign for Yari to win. Go.
Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 3:50pm On Jun 12, 2023
GODPUNISHALABI:
again agbada baban Riga bou bou or whatever did not originate from yorubas its an Islamic dressing which originated from the west African sahel region

You need to give the specific originator if you are disputing its origin with Yoruba.

Who specifically originated Agbada? It is not enough to just say sahel region. You need to find its originator.

Let me coach you on a few things here to begin with.

Sahel is related from Sahil, Arabic word for regions below Maghreb (Morrocco) and Masra (Egypt). This will indicate from around Mauritania stretching across to Sudan. So sahel is not some strange word that can be used to razzmatazz knowledgeable folks like myself.

What is interesting to know is that the two key words contained in your post - sahel/sahil (coast) and agbada both have cognates in Yoruba language.

Isale in Yoruba can denote valley a location below

Agbada in Yoruba is cognate of Abaya in Arabic. Infact, you can see the connection if you retrieve picture of Abaya on internet.

So untill you can find the specific ethnic that originated Agbada, I maintain Yoruba is its originator.

The Yoruba terms Isale (as in Sahel) and Agbada (as in Abaya) creeped into other languages of Arabian desert and their own styling copied the Yoruba.

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Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 12:28pm On Jun 12, 2023
GODPUNISHALABI:
agbada did not originate from the yorubas

Who told you this?

Go and find Leo Frobenius archives on Yoruba culture and amongst his collections was Yoruba Agbada which he called ancient mode of dressing amongst Yoruba.

E remain small una go say Ife royal bronze cast sef is not original Yoruba.

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Politics / Re: Between These Two Igbo Attires Which Looks More Official [Photos] by ImperialYoruba: 12:21pm On Jun 12, 2023
Razgas:
1. Wearing the normal West African/Nigerian agbada with the red Igbo cap
2. Wearing the Isi Agu with the red igbo cap

The second is authentic Ibo top. To complete it as a full Ibo attire the trouser should be replaced with wrapper.

The first picture is a copy of Yoruba traditional attire.

There is nothing called West African attire. Who dey yarn this nonsense? West African ko, East African ni.

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Politics / Re: “i’m Ready To Kneel Down & Beg My Colleagues To Vote The Nation’s Stability” – S by ImperialYoruba: 12:12pm On Jun 12, 2023
AfricanGlitz:
“I’m Ready To Kneel Down & Beg My Colleagues To Vote The Nation’s Stability” – Shettima Campaigns For Akpabio’s Senate Presidency

Vice President Kashim Shettima has appealed to senators-elect to vote a former governor of Akwa Ibom State, Godswill Akpabio, as president of the incoming 10th Senate.

Shettima who spoke at a dinner organized Saturday night to rally support for Senators Akpabio and Jibrin Barau joint ticket said he was ready to kneel down for the senators-elect.


He said Akpabio’s Senate presidency would endanger engender unity and stability in the country.


“I’m ready to kneel down and beg my colleagues for them to come on board for the sake of the nation’s stability,” Shettima said.

To read more, follow this link https://africanglitz.com/2023/06/12/im-ready-to-kneel-down-beg-my-colleagues-to-vote-the-nations-stability-shettima-campaigns-for-akpabios-senate-presidency/

Make una dey proof read before posting nah. If you are unsure of your word find one you are sure of that fits. You could have used promote in place of that.
Politics / Re: June 12: Peter Obi's Democracy Day Message To Nigerians by ImperialYoruba: 12:06pm On Jun 12, 2023
This Obi message is for his fellow Ibos, to give them sense of purpose.

He cant be addressing this to Nigerians with an acute sense of recall. We know people that fought for and embraced democracy, Obi is not one of them.

Same Obi that was threatening interim government just few months ago to stop Tinubu from legitimately taking over government is now proclaiming himself advocate of democracy? Like i said, his message is for Ibos around the country.

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Mobbed Amid Loud Ovation At Lekki Catholic Church (Pix, Video) by ImperialYoruba: 11:44am On Jun 12, 2023
Ogene001:

It's now Obi's Lagos, he defeated Tinubu in Lagos

Tinubu played him in Lagos.
Buhari played him in Katsina
Abdullahi played him in Nassarawa.

Get sense!
Politics / Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 10:07pm On Jun 11, 2023
Stoplying:
Anybody who disrespects the Oba of Lagos is definitely not and indigene of Lagos.
By saying "Akiolu" instead of "Oba Akiolu", you revealed yourself to not be an indigene of Lagos, contrary to your nonsensical "agbolo" claim.

Oh, maybe Im part of his Council of Chiefs. Have you thought about that? grin
Politics / Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 11:02am On Jun 11, 2023
Stoplying:

And you made that law because you are Jesus Christ the saviour of mankind? Please stop saying rubbish.

Agbole is not a law.

Is DNA a law? No.

Agbole is our dna. You cant legislate indigeneship in Lagos. If you dont like it follow Akiolu advise, the Lagoon is still there, jump in.

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Politics / Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 10:04am On Jun 11, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
Please answer the question.
Who are the indigenes of Lagos?

Any person that can verifiably tie his ancestral root to an Agbole in Lagos, that's an indigene of Lagos.
Politics / Re: Yorubanization Of Nigeria Has Started With Full Force! by ImperialYoruba: 10:01am On Jun 11, 2023
proeast:


I shouldn't spoon-feed you. Go and check their profiles yourself. Even Deji Adeyanju has stated that Tinubu chose him based on tribalism.

Since 1999, president and CBN has never come from same region. Buhari didn't even try to change it knowing how sensitive it is.

Let's see how far the bigot president-select will go.

We are changing status quo. Starting with Tinubu Administration, President and CBN Governor will come from same region. If you dont like try Jan 66 all over again.

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Business / Re: I Doubt If Computer Village Lagos Is bigger than Onitsha ICT Market (video) by ImperialYoruba: 6:53am On Jun 11, 2023
post=123712528:

You're ignorant do you know it's easier for a business man in Abuja, middle belt states, Southsouth to come to Onitsha to purchase goods than Lagos,many neighboring countries comes to Onitsha markets, one of the markets known as Main Market is the biggest market in West Africa

In modern times and very where around the world Mondays are considered market day. Businesses and exchanges reopen to a renewed cycle of commerce and wealth.

Who in their right mind would want to bring their investment to Iboland where Mondays are enforced "sit at home" days, and you risk kidnap and beheading for non-compliance?

Ol boy go siddon for one corner abeg.

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Business / Re: I Doubt If Computer Village Lagos Is bigger than Onitsha ICT Market (video) by ImperialYoruba: 6:46am On Jun 11, 2023
post=123711677:

Watch and feed your ignorant mind most of you think Nigeria start from Lagos and end in Ondo

Of course, Nigeria starts in Lagos.

Where else is its starting point? Talk

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Politics / Re: Yorubanization Of Nigeria Has Started With Full Force! by ImperialYoruba: 6:42am On Jun 11, 2023
proeast:
Nigerians thought Buhari was the most nepotistic ruler to ever to president over this country, but they're going to be shocked. His successor is about to beat his record.

This man once said he doesn't believe in one Nigeria and his actions are already proving it. Everything about him reeks of ethnocentrism. From using tribal phrases to promotion of ethnic sentiments in his region. Now, he has commenced the full yorubanization of Nigeria. He removed Emefiele and replaced him with a yorubaman, not minding that there were more qualified Hausa and Igbo as directors!

Deja Vu right?

Now he has suspended NNPC GMD, Nigerians should also expect another Yoruba man to replace him.

The situation reminds me of a mad man with lighter in a gas station!

Give us their names, qualification and heirarchy in CBN

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Politics / Re: Who Is An Indigene Of Lagos? by ImperialYoruba: 8:49pm On Jun 10, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
What is your socalled absurd 'reality?' - that all the Yorubas whose ancestors are from Ondo, Ogun, Osun, Ekiti, Oyo, Kwara and Kogi living in Lagos are Lagos indigenes?
What about the Yorubas from Benin Republic and Togo living in Lagos? Are they indigenous Lagosians too?

Its up to you how you take it.
Culture / Re: A Breakdown Of Yoruba Surname Meanings. by ImperialYoruba: 5:15am On Jun 10, 2023
Very educative thread. I learnt

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