don't mind them they want to use their fallen nature/carnal minds to understand why God does what he does.
they think he is an Emotional God
ask Adam and Eve who God is when it comes to allowing the consequences of ur sinful actions to manifest.

you can't be calling the devil on phone and when he comes knocking at your door you start calling God not to allow him enter.

wicked souls everywhere asking why can't God do this or that. they are expecting a superman to save them always from their sins but still won't repent or humble themselves b4 him

spoiled children demanding what they shouldn't get in the first which such arrogance
if not for his mercy

standing afar and looking at you with pity I could only wonder your morality ... your understanding has no spiritual root at all.
I could only wonder the morality of the man uttering these things
and to where you plan to take deceitful teaching to

kingxsamz:


And what makes you so sure that you won't end up in this dark horrible place also?
Yeye.

I won't engage in a fools argument with you

am sorry for you...
you will remember these words in the dark and horrible place. you pushed yourself in there with your own words today.
if you like talk trash against I have said what I want to say
am sorry for you

frank317:
Las Las... Superman is greater than ur God

let it be according to your own understanding.
I won't argue with u

frank317:
Las Las... Superman is greater than ur God

let it be according to your own understanding.
I won't argue with

yeah he is

A lot of us constantly brainwashed by the comic heroes we watch or read about whether as believers or unbelievers funny enough equate God to how a superhero we created in our minds should perform.. weird....?

In the case of those comic superheroes we watch we see them taking praise and criticism, placed with high expectations that the people needing saving from one thing or the other.

God will save (through Christ), he will protect and he will watch over us but he ain't superman.

a lot of us want God to be our Superman and with what we know/watch about our comic heroes life is that the world wants them to conform to their will and system while they perform their saving, and if a single life is lost or a hospital blown up the press and people will cry out "where is Superman ?" " Has he abandoned us" and there more spill over of criticism emerge.

the world undoubtedly wants or needs a saving
but from someone who conforms to their expectations that's why you will see a lot of people accept the Antichrist than Christ on the last days

And one clear thing we know about God is that he ain't a respecter of nobody. His will is his.. he decides whom he will show mercy and whom will be punished.

the reasons Why God can't be the World's Replica Superman ?

1) He is the creator of all living beings not an alien
2) The reason for the sorrows, fears and deaths in the world all started when man fell and Satan had vowed ever since to destroy man who now has put himself under him
3) God gave man free will, apart from Adam and Eve's fall. humans are still disobeying God
What is the point of giving you freewill and giving you instruction and when you go doing bad things or creating systems or policies that are attracting consequences you expect a Superman/someone to come and intervene.

one thing about God our father is that he will not keep interfering on human matters because he has done all that he could for humanity and that's a fact.
he works by principles and allows the policies he had set in the universe to independently function.

a popular rule out there is "the wages of sin is death"

if everyone can think and stop being emotional you will understand God's ways, and he ain't gonna change it because of we humans that can praise someone today and tomorrow criticise/lay accusations or believe in someone's character and next day have doubts about the person or become someone that can be counted on only for the next day to betray/rebel (eg; Solomon, Satan, etc)

What am getting at is As of matters to saving whether from diseases, famine, spiritual/human attacks, bad rulers, bad policies (US Gun policy), accidents, etc is that on one hand God will intervene and at another he will allow the consequences we brought on ourselves to happen
for example: God would have forgiven and returned Adam & Eve when they fell and repented to their divine nature state but what he did after forgiving them is to make a covenant with them; a promise that they and billions of people that will occupy the earth is that they will be saved from Satan, sorrow, fears, death, etc when he will come on earth as a man (Christ Jesus) which was the only way to save mankind.

Gos knew the intentions of Cain's heart before he killed Abel; just like he warned Solomon and many of us that are committing sin/rebellion against him, he warned Cain and encouraged him to do better but Cain did otherwise with his freewill and brought consequences on himself

The death of Abel and disciples of Christ taught me an important fact; Bad things will happen to Good people because the good and bad live with each other (even Satan and his demons dey ground) so if you are deep thinker won't you agree there will be a continuous consequences of the scenerio.
God will intervene sometimes based on what his plans are for you but then will just watch at other cases while evil things happen because of 4 things
1) Freewill
2) accompanied consequences of our decisions (even the ones that stretch/afflict generations of a family)
3) The World's system (like the case of slave trade, colonization, globalization, Israel wanting a ruler, fashions, Gun control, Congestion in cities, testing biological weapons,etc)
4) That his Word will be fulfilled


Love or Hate him its about understanding not emotions (being childish)

God is not Superman

what you wrote and your position is like an empty barrel. for years we have seen the barrel gun but when will it fire.
you are on a wrong position and even think if an Igbo were to be elected the President that there will be change ?

I won't waste my time with this sympathetic post that's naive all over about the game of politics and the lack of competence in majority of Igbo leaders in various political positions. how much more a presidency.


Nigeria won't work because of two things

1) the current crop of leaders circulating themselves um the presidency and senate
2) the easily bought, ignorant and contented masses.

you talk won't change. create a plan not a insignificant post which we have heard be4

what you wrote and your position is like an empty barrel. for years we have seen the barrel gun but when will it fire.
you are on a wrong position and even think if an Igbo were to be elected the President that there will be change ?

I won't waste my time with this sympathetic post that's naive all over about the game of politics and the lack of competence in majority of Igbo leaders in various political positions. how much more a presidency.


Nigeria won't work because of two things

1) the current crop of leaders circulating themselves um the presidency and senate
2) the easily bought, ignorant and contented masses.

you talk won't change. create a plan not a valueless post

I. couldn't watch the video; pls can someone tell me what happened

sonmvayina:
Where did you get the idea that the Adam and Eve story is a literal one?.. Or a factual or historical?

where did you get the idea that what you think you know is not delusional, factual or historical.

is it from Man..the fallen man and his deceitful ways like Satan.

u may call it a story but the science of the story is what's real. seek understanding and revelation. facts only gets you thus far..but revelations make you walk of a cliff.

Maximus69:


I would have loved to participate in the on going discussion but please i'm sorry my trust (believe) is only the 66 compiled smaller books that made up the Bible.

Thanks!

I understand and am not countering the bible in anyway. it is the greatest book ever written and I learn more about God through Christ's teachings.

the matter here is the loop holes in Genesis which has led many doubting or seeking answers about the creation, the fall, the aftermath of the fall, God's role as to how everything played out, etc.
its up to us Christians that are called to win souls to clarify and reveal the those hidden books that should have complimented Genesis just like we had books complimenting each other in the new testament

Ladylite:

God put the tree in the garden because it was a tree that they were supposed to eat. But not at that time.

Temptation is simply what we naturally are meant to have or do or become prematurely given to us by the wrong means.


So the devil tempted them. If the devil didn't do that, they would still eat it later at God's instruction.


Premature satisfaction is the basis of the Satan's temptation

you shouldn't be asking this question.. rather you would ask why couldn't Adam obey one simple instruction ?

whether or not the tree was there it didn't remove the fact that we all had free will and could likely disobey God. that was one of the forseable consequences God saw before creating the being he gave Free will. God is the best mathematician and he knew there was the possibility of disobedience whether from Angels or humans.

was there a tree purposely made to make Satan fall or rebel against God ?
certainly no..so with or without the tree..it was still a possibility for man to disobey God
.and clearly Adam who had personal encounter with God just like Satan who when in heaven was close to God still chose to disobey him.

let us get understanding and there in u will find truth

Maximus69:


It wasn't a literal fruit, it simply means the decision to abandon God's guidance and turn away from him!

Eve first made the decision in Adam's absence and when Adam came she presented the idea, Adam welcomed the new development and their first decision was to alienate themselves from God as in making God a stranger to them!

That's why they told him "we are naked" meaning "we don't want you loitering around us anymore, we demand PRIVACY"

In the real sense, their eyes wasn't open to knowing better but worse things, you can imagine two creatures made by God telling him "we are naked" please what part of their body is not visible to the one who doesn't need eyes or a special lence to see all their private parts?

So in the real sense, Satan only succeeded in making them rebel against their owner so that he could take over from there, and ever since then Satan has become the ruler of Adam's descendants {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} except those who stubbornly refuse to succumb to his rule, and he's ready to make life miserable for such ones! Revelations 12:17

Of course Adam was older than Eve and he is the one God directly spoke to about the figurative fruit NOT Eve, it was Adam that passed on the information to Eve.

This same thing happened on a much more intense situation, while Satan has no power to inflict any pain on Adam and Eve because they were perfect, he had every power to inflict pain on imperfect descendants of Adam because they've become his slaves through sin!

So when he tempted Job (a faithful man) Job never gave in to Satan's baits, even when Job's wife asked him to "curse God" Job maintained his integrity IN PAINS!

Such faithful servants of God have beaten Satan hands down and proved that Adam decisively chose to become a rebel!

Thanks, God bless you!

word bro

Donald95:


Adam was like God in physical structure and eternal life not in Wisdom. Ancient Serpent Satan is very deceitful and that's why Jesus sent down his holy spirit to help man out when he is gone. Imagine Adam and eve with no such Spirit and Guardian angel?

Nothing happened when Eve ate the apple because maybe she was not there when the instruction was given.

if what your intention is to point accusing fingers on God then you are a mad man
wasn't king Solomon wise yet what happened ?
wasn't it a heavenly wisdom from God himself
Adam although innocent was wise but as always got deceived by a the Godhead status Satan promised him like he did towards the angels he deceived

great.. Heavenly Father thank you

godofuck231:
be careful , with these books , exposing it to unprepared minds could cause issues, there are somethings others con not comprehend or understand about these hidden books, that's why the Catholic Church and the first pope, Constantine I removed it from the Bible.

you are right..some people rather stay in their comfort zone. but its natural when something that is to big to comprehend hinders them being open minded and embrace certain past and present reality

Funaki:


Why are you paranoid? I never claimed you should listen to me or emulate me. Are you projecting? My first comment was a joke. Why are you taking it too serious? Who offended you ?

not everything in life is a joke. your foolish jesting was unnecessary and was hindering the efficacy of what I posted for others to read.
judge by urself whether or not u thought it was right.

sometimes we do things thinking its ok without knowing how irrelevant and sometimes discrediting it can be.

godofuck231:
coded books or verses, most were too powerful to be put in the hands of an ordinarily man, some exposing too much about the Christian religion so the congregation of nicaea in 325 AD convened by the pagan pope created a balance in the early Christian faith and some books were removed from the Bible, which caused a serious controversy in the different Christian churches, issues ranging from Arianism , the nature of Christ, celebration of
Passover, ordination of eunuchs, prohibition of
kneeling on Sundays and from Easter to Pentecost,
validity of baptism by heretics, lapsed Christians,
sundry other matters were settled, another advanced mind spotted on nairaland.

they could do they would. but God's word which is light can never be hidden. am glad we share the same mindset of being open minded to learn more about deep mysteries but we understand not on our own but by the spirit of God who guides us because there are also false books set as a trap for the seekers of more revelations

godofuck231:
coded books or verses, most were too powerful to be put in the hands of an ordinarily man, some exposing too much about the Christian religion so the congregation of nicaea in 325 AD convened by the pagan pope created a balance in the early Christian faith and some books were removed from the Bible, which caused a serious controversy in the different Christian churches, issues ranging from Arianism , the nature of Christ, celebration of
Passover, ordination of eunuchs, prohibition of
kneeling on Sundays and from Easter to Pentecost,
validity of baptism by heretics, lapsed Christians,
sundry other matters were settled, another advanced mind spotted on nairaland.

they could do they would. but God's word which is light can never be hidden. am glad we share the same mindset of being open minded to learn more about deep mysteries but we understand not on our own but by the spirit of God who guides us because there are also false books

Funaki:


How did you get these from my comment? You're being paranoid pal. I don't give a sh!t about your Bible

your problem not mine. sounding arrogant doesn't mean you are good, great and the best person to listen or emulate. all I see is a dude with garbage .
not being mean but showing u a mirror of how horrible u look from within

Funaki:
I thought you were quoting Bible at first

your delusion is that you think the Bible is complete. forgetting that there were books that didn't make it to the Bible.
ask yourself why ?

CHAP. XLV.

Why Satan didn't fulfil his promises.

THEN Adam rose and prayed unto God,
saying, "See, this fire has made separation
between us and the cave in which Thou
hast commanded us to dwell; but now,
behold, we cannot go into it."
2 Then God heard Adam, and sent him His
Word, that said:--
3 "O Adam, see this fire! how different the
flame and heat thereof are from the garden
of delights and the good things in it!
4 "When thou wast under My control, all
creatures yielded to thee; but after thou
hast transgressed My commandment, they
all rise over thee."
5 Again said God unto him, "See, O Adam,
how Satan has exalted thee! He has
deprived thee of the Godhead, and of an
exalted state like unto Me, and has not
kept his word to thee; but, after all, is
become thy foe. It is he who made this fire
in which he meant to burn thee and Eve.
6 "Why, O Adam, has he not kept his
agreement with thee, not even one day;
but has deprived thee of the glory that was
on thee--when thou didst yield to his
command?
7 "Thinkest thou, Adam, that he loved thee
when he made this agreement with thee?
Or, that he loved thee and wished to raise
thee on high?
8 "But no, Adam, he did not do all that out
of love to thee; but he wished to make
thee come out of light into darkness, and
from an exalted state to degradation; from
glory to abasement; from joy to sorrow;
and from rest to fasting and fainting."
9 God said also to Adam, "See this fire
kindled by Satan around thy cave; see this
wonder that surrounds thee; and know that
it will encompass about both thee and thy
seed, when ye hearken to his behest; that
he will plague you with fire; and that ye
shall go down into hell after ye are dead.
10 "Then shall ye see the burning of his
fire, that will thus be burning around you
and your seed. There shall be no
deliverance from it for you, but at My
coming; in like manner as thou canst not
now go into thy cave, by reason of the
great fire around it; not until My Word
shall come that will make a way for thee
on the day My covenant is fulfilled.
11 "There is no way for thee at present to
come from hence to rest, not until My
Word comes, who is My Word. Then will
He make a way for thee, and thou shalt
have rest." Then God called with His Word
to that fire that burned around the cave,
that it part itself asunder, until Adam had
gone through it. Then the fire parted itself
by God's order, and a way was made for
Adam.
12 And God withdrew His Word from
Adam.

from the forgotten books of Eden; the first book of Adam and Eve

CHAP. XXVII.
The second tempting of Adam and Eve. The devil takes on the form of a beguiling light .
WHEN Satan, the hater of all good, saw how they continued in prayer, and how God communed with them, and comforted them, and how He had accepted their offering--Satan made an apparition. 2 He began with transforming his hosts; in his hands was a flashing fire, and they were in a great light. 3 He then placed his throne near the mouth of the cave because he could not enter into it by reason of their prayers. And he shed light into the cave, until the cave glistened over Adam and Eve; while his hosts began to sing praises. 4 And Satan did this, in order that when Adam saw the light, he should think within himself that it was a heavenly light, and that Satan's hosts were angels; and that God had sent them to watch at the cave, and to give him light in the darkness. 5 So that when Adam came out of the cave and saw them, and Adam and Eve bowed to Satan, then he would overcome Adam thereby, and a second time humble him before God. 6 When, therefore, Adam and Eve saw the light, fancying it was real, they strengthened their hearts; yet, as they were trembling, Adam said to Eve:-- 7 "Look at that great light, and at those many songs of praise, and at that host standing outside that do not come in to us, do not tell us what they say, or whence they come, or what is the meaning of this light; what those praises are; wherefore they have been sent hither, and why they do not come in. 8 "If they were from God, they would come to us in the cave, and would tell us their errand." 9 Then Adam stood up and prayed unto God with a fervent heart, and said:-- 10 "O Lord, is there in the world another god than Thou, who created angels and filled them with light, and sent them to keep us, who would come with them? 11 "But, lo, we see these hosts that stand at the mouth of the cave; they are in a great light; they sing loud praises. If they are of some other god than Thou, tell me; and if they are sent by Thee, inform me of the reason for which Thou hast sent them." 12 No sooner had Adam said this, than an angel from God appeared unto him in the cave, who said unto him, "O Adam, fear not. This is Satan and his hosts; he wishes to deceive you as he deceived you at first. For the first time, he was hidden in the serpent; but this time he is come to you in the similitude of an angel of light; in order that, when you worshipped him, he might enthrall you, in the very presence of God." 13 Then the angel went from Adam, and seized Satan at the opening of the cave, and stripped him of the feint he had assumed, and brought him in his own hideous form to Adam and Eve; who were afraid of him when they saw him. 14 And the angel said to Adam, "This hideous form has been his ever since God made him fall from heaven. He could not have come near you in it; therefore did he transform himself into an angel of light." 15 Then the angel drove away Satan and his hosts from Adam and Eve, and said unto them, "Fear not; God who created you, will strengthen you." 16 And the angel went from them. 17 But Adam and Eve remained p. 20 standing in the cave; no consolation came to them; they were divided in their thoughts. 18 And when it was morning they prayed; and then went out to seek the garden. For their hearts were towards it, and they could get no consolation for having left it.
from the forgotten books of Eden: the first book of Adam and Eve

kestolove95:
Those two idiotputthe world into confusion today, reason y God is not happy with us

be cautious with your words. they are still your first parents. so be respectful

warrenweste:


Pls where can be one get these book?

search for the Forgotten books of Eden. there you will see other books for some reason didn't make it to the Bible

cRobo:
Senseless post

only a senseless person will say this

the reason for the post was to show the sorrowful state of Adam and Eve after they left the garden and the actions they took being that they were fallen.
a replica to what's happening in this contemporary world

One of many examples I have read

CHAP. XXI.

Adam and Eve attempt suicide .


THEN Adam and Eve went in search of the
garden.
2 And the heat beat like a flame on their
faces; and they sweated from the heat, and
wept before the Lord.
3 But the place where they wept was nigh
unto a high mountain, facing the western
gate of the garden.
4 Then Adam threw himself down from the
top of that mountain; his face was tom and
his flesh was flayed; much blood flowed
from him, and he was nigh unto death.
5 Meanwhile Eve remained standing on the
mountain weeping over him, thus lying.
6 And she said, "I wish not to live after
him; for all that he did to himself was
through me."
7 Then she threw herself after him; and
was torn and scotched by stones; and
remained lying as dead.
8 But the merciful God, who looks upon
His creatures, looked upon Adam and Eve
as they lay dead, and He sent His Word
unto them, and raised them.
9 And said to Adam, "O Adam, all this
misery which thou hast wrought upon
thyself, will not avail against My rule,
neither will it alter the covenant of the
5500 years."

Moral Lesson: Grief is powerful factor that can influence one to commit suicide

From the forgotten books of Eden: The First book of Adam and Eve

CHAP. XVIII.

The mortal combat with the serpent.

WHEN the accursed serpent saw Adam and
Eve, it swelled its head, stood on its tail,
and with eyes blood-red, did as if it would
kill them.
2 It made straight for Eve, and ran after
her; while Adam standing by, wept
because he had no stick in his hand
wherewith to smite the serpent, and knew
not how to put it to death.
3 But with a heart burning for Eve, Adam
approached the serpent, and held it by the
tail; when it turned towards him and said
unto him:--
4 "O Adam, because of thee and of Eve, I
am slippery, and go upon my belly." Then
by reason of its great strength, it threw
down Adam and Eve and pressed upon
them, as if it would kill them.
5 But God sent an angel who threw the
serpent away from them, and raised them
up.
6 Then the Word of God came to the
serpent, and said unto it, "In the first
instance I made thee glib, and made thee
to go upon thy belly; but I did not deprive
thee of speech.
7 "Now, however, be thou dumb; and
speak no more, thou and thy race;
because in the first place, has the ruin of
my creatures happened through thee, and
now thou wishest to kill them."
8 Then the serpent was struck dumb, and
spake no more.
9 And a wind came to blow from heaven
by command of God that carried away the
serpent from Adam and Eve, threw it on the
sea shore, and it landed in India.

from the forgotten books of Eden: the first book of Adam and Eve

CHAP. XVII.

The Chapter of the Serpent.

THEN Adam and Eve came out at the
mouth of the cave, and went towards the
garden.
p. 14
2 But as they drew near to it, before the
western gate, from which Satan came
when he deceived Adam and Eve, they
found the. serpent that became Satan
coming at the gate, and sorrowfully licking
the dust, and wriggling on its breast on the
ground, by reason of the curse that fell
upon it from God.
3 And whereas aforetime the serpent was
the most exalted of all beasts, now it was
changed and become slippery, and the
meanest of them all, and it crept on its
breast and went on its belly.
4 And whereas it was the fairest of all
beasts, it had been changed, and was
become the ugliest of them all. Instead of
feeding on the best food, now it turned to
eat the dust. Instead of dwelling, as before,
in the best places, now it lived in the dust.
5 And, whereas it had been the most
beautiful of all beasts, all of which stood
dumb at its beauty, it was now abhorred of
them.
6 And, again, whereas it dwelt in one
beautiful abode, to which all other animals
came from elsewhere; and where it drank,
they drank also of the same; now, after it
had become venomous, by reason of
God's curse, all beasts fled from its abode,
and would not drink of the water it drank;
but fled from it.

from the forgotten books of Eden: The first book Adam and Eve

Hkk9090:
Really

yeah