go read the book of Adam and Eve

if u call it fiction or don't properly understood what they meant. stop asking then since it seems u don't want to know the truth.

orunto27:
There is no Evil in Heaven. Evil exists on Earth because of the Selfishness of man.

did u read any place that I said evil was in Heaven ?

I will solve poverty crisis and make wealth access available using well established plans for all regions

if interested in my vendetta, quote me

please do endeavor to read the forgotten books of Eden; especially the first book of Adam & Eve to understand many more things that happened after Adam and Eve fell.

"Its only a fool that will say there is no God" such is popular saying and till now hasn't been sufficiently disproved and may I say never

also have you heard "it's only a fool that will say there is nothing like evil"

Question: where did evil come from ?
if you don't believe God but believe there is evil are you not a fool ?
if you believe God and believe not that evil exists are you not a fool"

for if you believe evil exists then surely you believe in that unseen but manifest through human actions

thus; where is the origin of Evil ?

for the thinkers who will childishly stroll down the lane to talk of culture variations, society labelling, etc
I asked you this; if you labor all day and made 20 millionaire naira and while going back home a group of men accosted you and stole your hard earned money isn't it evil ? no matter which culture locality/country it will be labelled bad/crime/unwanted all in family of Evil.

After the fall of man many of us readers of the Bible usually miss one thing..man was stripped of his divine nature just like Satan. thus was he given the flesh called also the animal flesh that would thirst and be hungry. (please read the first book of Adam and Eve)

thus many of us behave like animals even to the point comparing ourselves/DNAs with other animals
but if so then why can't we stop labeling our various actions good and evil like we don't have in the animal kingdom.
this is because we aren't animals but humans.
don't points to higher intelligence because even plants have a residue of intelligence and why is it only humans that have higher intelligence than other living things ?

the flesh we wear is brutish and evil is a knowledge; Evil simply means contrary to what exists.
thus if by sociology we learn everything from our environment and from the actions of others where was evil learnt from ?

Evil is unseen and is buried in human hearts; from our thoughts, words and actions, in which I vehemently doubt was produced by our DNA.

I recall a verse in the Bible; "Wickedness in high places"

if we say there is no God but believe in a nature unseen that influences the way we think of others, what we say to others even behind their backs and the horrors we do against others without restraint
then our case is worse
for its like we rather allow bar Jesus to be set free than to believe in Christ Jesus

Evil is a knowledge and knowledge is transferred but who transferred it ? because nature didn't teach us that
Evil is a nature and not nurture so how does evil exists ?

don't compare entirely the human nature with the animal kingdom because they don't know adultery, they don't know back biting, malice, torture, dishonor,etc
they steal from each other, they fight, they topple each other from power, they have sex like crazy, they care for each other, etc all these are natural in their eyes
we lost what was natural in our eyes which was the nature of holiness & righteousness and knew another nature which was called Good & Evil. the animals don't know that nature but only we humans; that's why they can't label their acts good and evil (even being confused to whats right & wrong nowadays) but we humans do even though we wear the animal flesh that hungers, thirst and has survival instincts unlike the divine body nature we lost after the fall

so for the unbelievers against the existence of God why believe in Evil ?

mine own is that I can never cross over to Muslim faith that is promising its believers their end will be fucking many Virgin women in their Paradise why they killed people. and their women weren't promised much but only subjects to sexual intercourse. their prophet as well was depraved of having sex and I heard he died not for the world but on top of a woman. these are the key truths they proudly follow and call Christians infidels.

but in Christianity its totally the opposite
the end reward isn't fucking women, men and women will become like angels with no need for intimacy. because its spiritual only in the physical is there a need for intimacy (Muslims think about that)
and lastly our master we follow died on the cross for our sinful ways

compare and contrast

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Janet96:
Today, we’re going to broach a very sensitive topic but an important topic and a controversial topic, the topic of masturbation. Within the greater body of Christ there is a spectrum of opinion on the subject. The reason for this is because, as we’ll soon see, the Bible is actually silent on the subject, at least to some degree.

Read more:

https://christ-like-life..com/2019/04/is-masturbation-wrong.html?m=1

the simple answer which is a question is...

in the act of masturbation is the person lusting after another person in his heart as a kind of stimuli to reach cum ?

if you answer correctly then you will know if its sin or not according to Christ teaching about lusting in the heart even with your eyes

mrZENographer:


I know the Bible has been the Christian standard for thousands of years and a solid history behind it.
*Who wrote this book you advertise?
I can't be open-minded to false doctrines.

God said! Adam said!
*How does this person know what God said or did outside of the bible? Was it a revelation, vision?
*Are you expecting Christians to take this as another valid Bible scripture?

am not forcing you to believe it
u can hold on to ur narrow mindset
and while at it help answer wanting questions in Genesis..

see how ignorant you are and research.
tell me how Genesis was written ?
secondly why did the Roman catholic remove some books from the Bible if it was a standard as u claim

have you heard of other books discovered and being translated currently ?

you are ignorant of all this but u open that ur mouth to shout lies
am not against the Bible in any way and this first book of Adam and Eve gave more insights and compliments Genesis that has two accounts of creation

what u don't know or understand don't be in a hurry to criticise like a Pharisee because they too would use that same verse against Christ so stop ur ignorance and be wise in asking the write question, no one is all knowing except God. so stop ur ignorance

mrZENographer:
Lies lies lies and lies.

Story of lies.

God said, when God did not say

Ezekiel 22:28
And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.

please ur evidence that its false u ignorant fellow.
if the book is lies pls take the forum and answer all
questions related to Genesis.
ur reasoning is whack I suspect u aren't open
minded and you don't want people to be further
enlightened.
if its lies provide evidence and if u can't pls
explain some raised questions in Genesis
and if u can't shut up.

quoting and twisting verse doesn't make u right and I wrong

mrZENographer:
Victoronah1

False book filled with lies.
God said, when God said not
God did, when he did not

Believe this book at your own peril. One small lie in this midst of 100 truthful statement is enough to lead you astray and accomplish the evil purpose it was created.

please ur evidence that its false u ignorant fellow.
if the book is lies pls take the forum and answer all questions related to Genesis.
ur reasoning is whack I suspect u aren't open minded and you don't want people to be further enlightened.
if its lies provide evidence and if u can't pls explain some raised questions in Genesis
and if u can't shut up

mrZENographer:
Lies lies lies and lies.

Story of lies.

God said, when God did not say

Ezekiel 22:28
And her prophets have daubed them with untempered morter, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.

pls your evidence & stop being foolish
am open minded and if u have evidence its lies then I will take it down.
but if u don't shut up
I don't know ur mission; quoting a verse proves nothing but u merely twisting it and quoting out of context.

CHAP. XXXV.

God's reply.


THEN God looked again upon Adam and
his weeping and groaning, and the Word of
God came to him, and said unto him:--
2 "O Adam, when thou wast in My garden,
thou knewest neither eating nor drinking;
neither faintness nor suffering; neither
leanness of flesh, nor change; neither did
sleep depart from thine eyes. But since
thou transgressedst, and camest into this
strange land, all these trials are come
upon thee."

To be continued tomorrow

CHAP. XXXIV.

Adam recalls the creation of Eve. He
eloquently appeals for food and drink .


AND on the morning of the forty-third day,
they came out of the cave, sorrowful and
weeping. Their bodies were lean, and they
were parched from hunger and thirst, from
fasting and praying, and from their heavy
sorrow on account of their transgression.
2 And when they had come out of the cave
they went up the mountain to the west of
the garden.
3 There they stood and prayed and
besought God to grant them forgiveness of
their sins.
4 And after their prayers Adam began to
entreat 'God, saying, "O my Lord my God,
and my Creator, thou didst command the
four elements to be gathered together, and
they were gathered together by Thine
order.
5 "Then Thou spreadest Thy
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hand and didst create me out of one
element, that of dust of the earth; and
Thou didst bring me into the garden at the
third hour, on a Friday, and didst inform
me of it in the cave.
6 "Then, at first, I knew neither night nor
day, for I had a bright nature; neither did
the light in which I lived ever leave me to
know night or day.
7 "Then, again, O Lord, in that third hour in
which Thou didst create me, Thou
broughtest to me all beasts, and lions, and
ostriches, and fowls of the air, and all
things that move in the earth, which Thou
hadst created at the first hour before me of
the Friday.
8 "And Thy will was that I should name
them all, one by one, with a suitable name.
But Thou gavest me understanding and
knowledge, and a pure heart and a right
mind from Thee, that I should name them
after Thine own mind regarding the naming
of them.
9 "O God, Thou madest them obedient to
me, and didst order that not one of them
break from my sway, according to Thy
commandment, and to the dominion which
Thou hast given me over them. But now
they are all estranged from me.
10 "Then it was in that third hour of Friday,
in which Thou didst create me, and didst
command me concerning the tree, to
which I was neither to draw near, nor to
eat thereof; for Thou saidst to me in the
garden, 'When thou eatest of it, of death
thou shalt die.'
11 "And if Thou hadst punished me as
Thou saidst, with death, I should have died
that very moment.
12 "Moreover, when Thou commandedst
me regarding the tree, I was neither to
approach nor to cat thereof, Eve was not
with me; Thou hadst not Yet created her,
neither hadst Thou yet taken her out of my
side; nor had she yet heard this order from
Thee.
13 "Then, at the end of the third hour of
that Friday, O Lord, Thou didst cause a
slumber and a sleep to come over me, and
I slept, and was overwhelmed in sleep.
14 "Then Thou didst draw a rib out of my
side, and created it after my own similitude
and image. Then I awoke; and when I saw
her and knew who she was, I said, 'This is
bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh;
henceforth she shall be called woman.'
15 "It was of Thy good will, O God, that
Thou broughtest a slumber and a sleep
over me, and that Thou didst forthwith
bring Eve out of my side, until she was
out, so that I did not see how she was
made; neither could I witness, O my Lord,
how awful and great are Thy goodness and
glory.
16 "And of Thy goodwill, O Lord, Thou
madest us both with bodies of a bright
nature, and Thou madest us two, one; and
Thou gavest us Thy grace, and didst fill us
with praises of the Holy Spirit; that we
should be neither hungry nor thirsty, nor
know what sorrow is, nor yet faintness of
heart; neither suffering, fasting, nor
weariness.
17 "But now, O God, since we
transgressed Thy commandment and broke
Thy law, Thou hast brought us out into a
strange land, and has caused suffering,
and faintness, hunger and thirst to come
upon us.
1S "Now, therefore, O God, we pray Thee,
give us something to eat from the garden,
to satisfy our hunger with it; and
something wherewith to quench our thirst.
19 "For, behold, many days, O God, we
have tasted nothing and drunk nothing,
and our flesh is dried up, and our
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strength is wasted, and sleep is gone from
our eyes from faintness and weeping.
20 "Then, O God, we dare not gather aught
of the fruit of trees, from fear of Thee. For
when we transgressed at first Thou didst
spare us, and didst not make us die.
21 "But now, we thought in our hearts, if
we eat of the fruit of trees, without God's
order, He will destroy us this time, and will
wipe us off from the face of the earth.
22 "And if we drink of this water, without
God's order, He will make an end of us,
and root us up at once.
23 "Now, therefore, O God, that I am come
to this place with Eve, we beg Thou wilt
give us of the fruit of the garden, that we
may be satisfied with it.
24 "For we desire the fruit that is on the
earth, and all else that we lack in it."


Next: Chapter XXXV

CHAP. XXXIII.

Satan falsely promises the "bright light!'


BUT Satan, the hater of all good, sought
them in the cave, but found them not,
although he searched diligently for them.
2 But he found them standing in the water
praying and thought within himself, "Adam
and Eve are thus standing in that water
beseeching God to forgive them their
transgression,
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and to restore them to their former estate,
and to take them from under my hand.
3 "But I will deceive them so that they
shall come out of the water, and not fulfil
their vow."
4 Then the hater of all good, went not to
Adam, but be went to Eve, and took the
form of an angel of God, praising and
rejoicing, and said to her--
5 "Peace be unto thee! Be glad and
rejoice! God is favourable unto you, and
He sent me to Adam. I have brought him
the glad tidings of salvation, and of his
being filled with bright light as he was at
first.
6 "And Adam, in his joy for his restoration,
has sent me to thee, that thou come to
me, in order that I crown thee with light
like him.
7 "And he said to me, 'Speak unto Eve; if
she does not come with thee, tell her of
the sign when we were on the top of the
mountain; how God sent His angels who
took us and brought us to the Cave of
Treasures; and laid the gold on the
southern side; incense, on the eastern
side; and myrrh on the western side.' Now
come to him."
8 When Eve heard these words from him,
she rejoiced greatly. And thinking that
Satan's appearance was real, she came
out of the sea.
9 He went before, and she followed him
until they came to Adam. Then Satan hid
himself from her, and she saw him no
more.
10 She then came and stood before Adam,
who was standing by the water and
rejoicing in God's forgiveness.
11 And as she called to him, he turned
round, found her there and wept when he
saw her, and smote upon his breast; and
from the bitterness of his grief, he sank
into the water.
12 But God looked upon him and upon his
misery, and upon his being about to
breathe his last. And the Word of God
came from heaven, raised him out of the
water, and said unto him, "Go up the high
bank to Eve." And when he came up to
Eve he said unto her, "Who said to thee
'come hither'?"
13 Then she told him the discourse of the
angel who had appeared unto her and had
given her a sign.
14 But Adam grieved, and gave her to
know it was Satan. He then took her and
they both returned to the cave.
15 These things happened to them the
second time they went down to the water,
seven days after their coming out of the
garden.
16 They fasted in the water thirty-five
days; altogether forty-two days since they
had left the garden.


Next: Chapter XXXIV

CHAP. XXXII.

Adam and Eve go into the water to pray.


AND Adam and Eve remained in the Cave
of Treasures until the seventh day; they
neither ate of the fruit of the earth, nor
drank water.
2 And when it dawned on the eighth day,
Adam said to Eve, "O Eve, we prayed God
to give us somewhat from the garden, and
He sent His angels who brought us what
we had desired.
3 "But now, arise, let us go to the sea of
water we saw at first, and let us stand in it,
praying that God will again be favourable
to us and take us back to the garden; or
give us something; or that He will give us
comfort in some other land than this in
which we are."
4 Then Adam and Eve came out of the
cave, went and stood on the border of the
sea in which they had before thrown
themselves, and Adam said to Eve:--
5 "Come, go down into this place, and
come not out of it until the end of thirty
days, when I shall come to thee. And pray
to God with fervent heart and a sweet
voice, to forgive us.
6 "And I will go to another place, and go
down into it, and do like thee."
7 Then Eve went down into the water, as
Adam had commanded her. Adam also
went down into the water; and they stood
praying; and besought the Lord to forgive
them their offence, and to restore them to
their former state.
8 And they stood thus praying, unto the
end of the five-and-thirty days.

Next: Chapter XXXIII

CHAP. XXXI.

They make themselves more comfortable
in the Cave of Treasures on the third day .


AFTER these things God said unto Adam,
"Thou didst ask of Me something from the
garden, to be comforted therewith, and I
have given thee these three tokens as a
consolation to thee; that thou trust in Me
and in My covenant with thee.
2 "For I will come and save thee; and
kings shall bring me when in the flesh,
gold, incense and myrrh; gold as a token
of My kingdom; incense as a token of My
divinity; and myrrh as a token of My
suffering and of My death.
3 "But, O Adam, put these by thee in the
cave; the gold that it may shed light over
thee by night; the incense, that thou smell
its sweet savour; and the myrrh, to
comfort thee in thy sorrow."
4 When Adam heard these words from
God, he worshipped
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before Him. He and Eve worshipped Him
and gave Him thanks, because He had
dealt mercifully with them.
5 Then God commanded the three angels,
Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, each to
bring what he had brought, and give it to
Adam. And they did so, one by one.
6 And God commanded Suriyel and
Salathiel to bear up Adam and Eve, and
bring them down from the top of the high
mountain, and to take them to the Cave of
Treasures.
7 There they laid the gold on the south
side of the cave, the incense on the eastern
side, and the myrrh on the western side.
For the mouth of the cave was on the north
side.
8 The angels then comforted Adam and
Eve, and departed.
9 The gold was seventy rods; the incense,
twelve pounds; and the myrrh, three
pounds.
10 These remained by Adam in the House
of Treasures; therefore was it called "of
concealment." But other interpreters say it
was called the "Cave of Treasures," by
reason of the bodies of righteous men that
were in it.
11 These three things did God give to
Adam, on the third day after he had come
out of the garden, in token of the three
days the Lord should remain in the heart of
the earth.
12 And these three things, as they
continued with Adam in the cave, gave him
light by night; and by day they gave him a
little relief from his sorrow.


Next: Chapter XXXII

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go and Google search the forgotten books of Eden compiled by Rutherford platt

CHAP. 30


Adam receives the first worldly goods .


AFTER these things, God commanded the
angel Gabriel to go down to the garden,
and say to the cherub who kept it, "Behold,
God has commanded me to come into the
garden, and to take thence sweet smelling
incense, and give it to Adam."
2 Then the angel Gabriel went down by
God's order to the garden, and told the
cherub as God had commanded him.
3 The cherub then said, "Well." And
Gabriel went in and took the incense.
4 Then God commanded His angel Raphael
to go down to the garden, and speak to the
cherub about some myrrh, to give to
Adam.
5 And the angel Raphael went down and
told the cherub as God had commanded
him, and the cherub said, "Well." Then
Raphael went in and took the myrrh.
6 The golden rods were from the Indian
sea, where there are precious stones. The
incense was from the eastern border of the
garden; and the myrrh from the western
border, whence bitterness came upon
Adam.
7 And the angels brought these three
things to God, by the Tree of Life, in the
garden.
8 Then God said to the angels, "Dip them
in the spring of water; then take them and
sprinkle their water over Adam and Eve,
that they be a little comforted in their
sorrow, and give them to Adam and Eve.
9 And the angels did as God had
commanded them, and they gave all those
things to Adam and Eve on the top of the
mountain upon which Satan had placed
them, when he sought to make an end of
them.
10 And when Adam saw the golden rods,
the incense and the myrrh, he was rejoiced
and wept because he thought that the gold
was a token of the kingdom whence he
had come, that the incense was a token of
the bright light which had been taken from
him, and that the myrrh was a token of the
sorrow in which he was.

CHAP. 30
Adam receives the first worldly goods .

AFTER these things, God commanded the angel Gabriel to go down to the garden, and say to the cherub who kept it, "Behold, God has commanded me to come into the garden, and to take thence sweet smelling incense, and give it to Adam." 2 Then the angel Gabriel went down by God's order to the garden, and told the cherub as God had commanded him. 3 The cherub then said, "Well." And Gabriel went in and took the incense. 4 Then God commanded His angel Raphael to go down to the garden, and speak to the cherub about some myrrh, to give to Adam. 5 And the angel Raphael went down and told the cherub as God had commanded him, and the cherub said, "Well." Then Raphael went in and took the myrrh. 6 The golden rods were from the Indian sea, where there are precious stones. The incense was from the eastern border of the garden; and the myrrh from the western border, whence bitterness came upon Adam. 7 And the angels brought these three things to God, by the Tree of Life, in the garden. 8 Then God said to the angels, "Dip them in the spring of water; then take them and sprinkle their water over Adam and Eve, that they be a little comforted in their sorrow, and give them to Adam and Eve. 9 And the angels did as God had commanded them, and they gave all those things to Adam and Eve on the top of the mountain upon which Satan had placed them, when he sought to make an end of them. 10 And when Adam saw the golden rods, the incense and the myrrh, he was rejoiced and wept because he thought that the gold was a token of the kingdom whence he had come, that the incense was a token of the bright light which had been taken from him, and that the myrrh was a token of the sorrow in which he was.

CHAP. XXIX.

God tells Adam of the Devil's purpose. (v.
4).


BUT when the merciful God saw that Satan
wished to kill Adam with his manifold
devices, and saw that Adam was meek and
without guile, God spake unto Satan in a
loud voice, and cursed him.
2 Then he and his hosts fled, and Adam
and Eve remained standing on the top of
the mountain, whence they saw below
them the wide world, high above which
they were. But they saw none of the host
which anon were by them.
3 They wept, both Adam and Eve, before
God, and begged for forgiveness of Him.
4 Then came the Word from God to Adam,
and said unto him, "Know thou and
understand concerning this Satan, that he
seeks to deceive thee and thy seed after
thee."
5 And Adam wept before the Lord God, and
begged and entreated Him to give him
something from the garden, as a token to
him, wherein to be comforted.
6 And God looked upon Adam's thought,
and sent the angel Michael as far as the
sea that reaches unto India, to take
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from thence golden rods and bring them to
Adam.
7 This did God in His wisdom, in order that
these golden rods, being with Adam in the
cave, should shine forth with light in the
night around him, and put an end to his
fear of the darkness.
8 Then the angel Michael went down by
God's order, took golden rods, as God had
commanded him, and brought them to
God.


Next: Chapter 30

CHAP. XXVIII

The Devil pretends to lead Adam and Eve
to the water to bathe.


BUT when the wily Satan saw them, that
they were going to the garden, he gathered
together his host, and came in appearance
upon a cloud, intent on deceiving them.
2 But when Adam and Eve saw him thus in
a vision, they thought they were angels of
God come to comfort them about their
having left the garden, or to bring them
back again into it.
3 And Adam spread his hands unto God,
beseeching Him to make him understand
what they were.
4 Then Satan, the hater of all good, said
unto Adam, "O Adam, I am an angel of the
great God; and, behold the hosts that
surround me.
5 "God has sent me and them to take thee
and bring thee to the border of the garden
northwards; to the shore of the clear sea,
and bathe thee and Eve in it, and raise you
to your former gladness, that ye return
again to the garden."
6 These words sank into the heart of Adam
and Eve.
7 Yet God withheld His Word from Adam,
and did not make him understand at once,
but waited to see his strength; whether he
would be overcome as Eve was when in
the garden, or whether he would prevail.
8 Then Satan called to Adam and Eve, and
said, "Behold, we go to the sea of water,"
and they began to go.
9 And Adam and Eve followed them at
some little distance.
10 But when they came to the mountain to
the north of the garden, a very high
mountain, without any steps to the top of
it, the Devil drew near to Adam and Eve,
and made them go up to the top in reality,
and not in a vision; wishing, as he did, to
throw them down and kill them, and to
wipe off their name from the earth; so that
this earth should remain to him and his
hosts alone.

Next: Chapter XXIX

CHAP. XXVII.

The second tempting of Adam and Eve.
The devil takes on the form of a beguiling
light .


WHEN Satan, the hater of all good, saw
how they continued in prayer, and how
God communed with them, and comforted
them, and how He had accepted their
offering--Satan made an apparition.
2 He began with transforming his hosts; in
his hands was a flashing fire, and they
were in a great light.
3 He then placed his throne near the
mouth of the cave because he could not
enter into it by reason of their prayers.
And he shed light into the cave, until the
cave glistened over Adam and Eve; while
his hosts began to sing praises.
4 And Satan did this, in order that when
Adam saw the light, he should think within
himself that it was a heavenly light, and
that Satan's hosts were angels; and that
God had sent them to watch at the cave,
and to give him light in the darkness.
5 So that when Adam came out of the cave
and saw them, and Adam and Eve bowed
to Satan, then he would overcome Adam
thereby, and a second time humble him
before God.
6 When, therefore, Adam and Eve saw the
light, fancying it was real, they
strengthened their hearts; yet, as they
were trembling, Adam said to Eve:--
7 "Look at that great light, and at those
many songs of praise, and at that host
standing outside that do not come in to us,
do not tell us what they say, or whence
they come, or what is the meaning of this
light; what those praises are; wherefore
they have been sent hither, and why they
do not come in.
8 "If they were from God, they would come
to us in the cave, and would tell us their
errand."
9 Then Adam stood up and prayed unto
God with a fervent heart, and said:--
10 "O Lord, is there in the world another
god than Thou, who created angels and
filled them with light, and sent them to
keep us, who would come with them?
11 "But, lo, we see these hosts that stand
at the mouth of the cave; they are in a
great light; they sing loud praises. If they
are of some other god than Thou, tell me;
and if they are sent by Thee, inform me of
the reason for which Thou hast sent
them."
12 No sooner had Adam said this, than an
angel from God appeared unto him in the
cave, who said unto him, "O Adam, fear
not. This is Satan and his hosts; he
wishes to deceive you as he deceived you
at first. For the first time, he was hidden in
the serpent; but this time he is come to
you in the similitude of an angel of light; in
order that, when you worshipped him, he
might enthrall you, in the very presence of
God."
13 Then the angel went from Adam, and
seized Satan at the opening of the cave,
and stripped him of the feint he had
assumed, and brought him in his own
hideous form to Adam and Eve; who were
afraid of him when they saw him.
14 And the angel said to Adam, "This
hideous form has been his ever since God
made him fall from heaven. He could not
have come near you in it; therefore did he
transform himself into an angel of light."
15 Then the angel drove away Satan and
his hosts from Adam and Eve, and said
unto them, "Fear not; God who created
you, will strengthen you."
16 And the angel went from them.
17 But Adam and Eve remained
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standing in the cave; no consolation came
to them; they were divided in their
thoughts.
18 And when it was morning they prayed;
and then went out to seek the garden. For
their hearts were towards it, and they
could get no consolation for having left it.


Next: Chapter XXVIII

CHAP. XXVI.

A beautiful prophecy of eternal life and joy
(v. 15). The fall of night.


THEN Adam took Eve, and they began to
return to the Cave of Treasures where they
dwelt. But when they neared
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it and saw it from afar, heavy sorrow fell
upon Adam and Eve when they looked at
it.
2 Then Adam said to Eve, "When we were
on the mountain we were comforted by the
Word of God that conversed with us; and
the light that came from the east, shone
over us.
3 "But now the Word of God is hidden from
us; and the light that shone over us is so
changed as to disappear, and let darkness
and sorrow come upon us.
4 "And we are forced to enter this cave
which is like a prison, wherein darkness
covers us, so that we are parted from each
other; and thou canst not see me, neither
can I see thee."
5 When Adam had said these words, they
wept and spread their hands before God;
for they were full of sorrow.
6 And they entreated God to bring the sun
to them, to shine on them, so that
darkness return not upon them, and they
come not again under this covering of
rock. And they wished to die rather than
see the darkness.
7 Then God looked upon Adam and Eve
and upon their great sorrow, and upon all
they had done with a fervent heart, on
account of all the trouble they were in,
instead of their former well-being, and on
account of all the misery that came upon
them in a strange land.
8 Therefore God was not wroth with them;
nor impatient with them; but He was
longsuffering and forbearing towards them,
as towards the children He had created.
9 Then came the Word of God to Adam,
and said unto him, "Adam, as for the sun,
if I were to take it and bring it to thee,
days, hours, years and months would all
come to naught, and the covenant I have
made with thee, would never be fulfilled.
10 "But thou shouldest then be turned and
left in a long plague, and no salvation
would be left to thee for ever.
11 "Yea, rather, bear long and calm thy
soul while thou abidest night and day;
until the fulfilment of the days, and the time
of My covenant is come.
12 "Then shall I come and save thee, O
Adam, for I do not wish that thou be
afflicted.
13 "And when I look at all the good things
in which thou didst live, and why thou
camest out of them, then would I willingly
show thee mercy.
14 "But I cannot alter the covenant that
has gone out of My mouth; else would I
have brought thee back into the garden.
15 "When, however, the covenant is
fulfilled, then shall I show thee and thy
seed mercy, and bring thee into a land of
gladness, where there is neither sorrow
nor suffering; but abiding joy and
gladness, and light that never fails, and
praises that never cease; and a beautiful
garden that shall never pass away."
16 And God said again unto Adam, "Be
long-suffering and enter the cave, for the
darkness, of which thou wast afraid, shall
only be twelve hours long; and when
ended, light shall arise."
17 Then when Adam heard these words
from God, he and Eve worshipped before
Him, and their hearts were comforted. They
returned into the cave after their custom,
while tears flowed from their eyes, sorrow
and wailing came from their hearts, and
they wished their soul would leave their
body.
18 And Adam and Eve stood praying, until
the darkness of night came upon them,
and Adam was hid from Eve, and she from
him.
19 And they remained standing in prayer.


Next: Chapter XXVII

to be continued in another thread

CHAP. XXV.
God represented as merciful and loving.
The establishing of worship .
BUT God knew that Adam had in his
thoughts, that he should often kill himself
and make an offering to Him of his blood.
2 Therefore did He say unto him, "O Adam,
do not again kill thyself as thou didst, by
throwing thyself down from that
mountain."
3 But Adam said unto God, "It was in my
mind to put an end to myself at once, for
having transgressed Thy commandments,
and for my having come out of the
beautiful garden; and for the bright light of
which Thou hast deprived me; and for the
praises which poured forth from my mouth
without ceasing, and for the light that
covered me.
4 "Yet of Thy goodness, O God, do not
away with me altogether; but be favourable
to me every time I die, and bring me to
life.
5 "And thereby it will be made known that
Thou art a merciful God, who willest not
that one should perish; who lovest not that
one should fall; and who dost not
condemn any one cruelly, badly, and by
whole destruction."
6 Then Adam remained silent.
7 And the Word of God came unto him,
and blessed him, and comforted him, and
covenanted with him, that He would save
him at the end of the days determined
upon him.
8 This, then, was the first offering Adam
made unto God; and so it became his
custom to do.

CHAP. XXIV.

A vivid prophecy of the life and death of
Christ.


TEN the merciful God, good 'and lover of
men, looked upon Adam and Eve, and
upon their blood, which they had held up
as an offering unto Him; without an order
from Him for so doing. But He wondered
at them; and accepted their offerings.
2 And God sent from His presence a bright
fire, that consumed their offering.
3 He smelt the sweet savour of their
offering, and showed them mercy.
4 Then came the Word of God to Adam,
and said unto him, "O Adam, as thou hast
shed thy blood, so will I shed My own
blood when I become flesh of thy seed;
and as thou didst die, O Adam, so also
will I die. And as thou didst build an altar,
so also will I make for thee an altar on the
earth; and as thou didst offer thy blood
upon it, so also will I offer My blood upon
an altar on the earth.
5 "And as thou didst sue for forgiveness
through that blood, so also will I make My
blood forgiveness of sins, and blot out
transgressions in it.
6 "And now, behold, I have accepted thy
offering, O Adam, but the days of the
covenant, wherein I have bound thee, are
not fulfilled. When they are fulfilled, then
will I bring thee back into the garden.
7 "Now, therefore, strengthen thy heart;
and when sorrow comes upon thee, make
Me an offering, and I will be favourable to
thee.".


Next: Chapter XXV

CHAP. XXIII.

Adam and Eve gird themselves and make
the first altar ever built.


THEN Adam wept more and said, "O God,
have mercy on me, so far as to take upon
Thee, that which I will do."
2 But God took His Word from Adam and
Eve.
3 Then Adam and Eve stood on their feet;
and Adam said to Eve "Gird thyself, and I
also will gird myself." And she girded
herself, as Adam told her.
4 Then Adam and Eve took stones and
placed them in the shape of an altar; and
they took leaves from the trees outside the
garden, with which they wiped, from the
face of the rock, the blood they had spilled.
5 But that which had dropped on the sand,
they took together with the dust wherewith
it was mingled and offered it upon the altar
as an offering unto God.
6 Then Adam and Eve stood under the
altar and wept, thus entreating God,
"Forgive us our trespass 1 and our sin,
and look upon us with Thine eye of mercy.
For when we were in the garden our
praises and our hymns went up before
Thee without ceasing.
7 "But when we came into this strange
land, pure praise was no longer ours, nor
righteous prayer, nor understanding
hearts, nor sweet thoughts, nor just
counsels, nor long discernment, nor
upright feelings, neither is our bright
nature left us. But our body is changed
from the similitude in which it was at first,
when we were created.
8 "Yet now look upon our blood which is
offered upon these stones, and accept it at
our hands, like the praise we used to sing
unto Thee at first, when in the garden."
9 And Adam began to make more requests
unto God.


Footnotes
16:1 ORIGINAL OF THE LORD'S PRAYER
SAID TO BE USED ABOUT 150 YEARS
BEFORE OUR LORD: Our Father, Who art in
Heaven, be gracious unto us, O Lord our
God, hallowed be Thy Name, and let the
remembrance of Thee be glorified in
Heaven above and upon earth here below.
Let Thy kingdom reign over us now and
forever. The Holy Men of old said remit
and forgive unto all men whatsoever they
have done unto me. And lead us not into
temptation, but deliver us from the evil
thing; for Thine is the kingdom and Thou
shalt reign in glory forever and
forevermore, AMEN.


Next: Chapter XXIV

CHAP. XXII.

Adam in a chivalrous mood .


THEN Adam said to God, "I wither in the
heat; I am faint from walking, and am loth
of this world. And I know not when Thou
wilt bring me out of it, to rest."
2 Then the Lord God said unto him, "O
Adam, it cannot be at present, not until
thou hast ended thy days. Then shall I
bring thee out of this wretched land."
3 And Adam said to God, "While I was in
the garden I knew neither heat, nor
languor, neither moving about, nor
trembling, nor fear; but now since I came
to this land, all this affliction has come
upon me."
4 Then God said to Adam,
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"So long as thou wast keeping My
commandment, My light and My grace
rested on thee. But when thou didst
transgress My commandment, sorrow and
misery befell thee in this land."
5 And Adam wept and said, "O Lord, do
not cut me off for this, neither smite me
with heavy plagues, nor yet repay me
according to my sin; For we, of our own
will, did transgress Thy commandment,
and forsook Thy law, and sought to
become gods like unto Thee, when Satan
the enemy deceived us."
6 Then God said again unto Adam,
"Because thou hast borne fear and
trembling in this land, languor and
suffering treading and walking about, going
upon this mountain, and dying from it, I
will take all this upon Myself in order to
save thee."


Next: Chapter XXIII

CHAP. XXI.

Adam and Eve attempt suicide .


THEN Adam and Eve went in search of the
garden.
2 And the heat beat like a flame on their
faces; and they sweated from the heat, and
wept before the Lord.
3 But the place where they wept was nigh
unto a high mountain, facing the western
gate of the garden.
4 Then Adam threw himself down from the
top of that mountain; his face was tom and
his flesh was flayed; much blood flowed
from him, and he was nigh unto death.
5 Meanwhile Eve remained standing on the
mountain weeping over him, thus lying.
6 And she said, "I wish not to live after
him; for all that he did to himself was
through me."
7 Then she threw herself after him; and
was torn and scotched by stones; and
remained lying as dead.
8 But the merciful God, who looks upon
His creatures, looked upon Adam and Eve
as they lay dead, and He sent His Word
unto them, and raised them.
9 And said to Adam, "O Adam, all this
misery which thou hast wrought upon
thyself, will not avail against My rule,
neither will it alter the covenant of the
5500 years."


Next: Chapter XXII

BlueAngel444:


You don't even know what lust is.

Even from that verse you quoted from Matthew, Jesus speaking about lust. You see that lust is about desiring what is not yours

the wife body, like his own body, belongs her husband.

Mr man pity yourself and weep for yourself.

You don't even know God, all you know is what you've been taught or heard. Because if you did you won't be religious.

See you defending wet dreams, it's because of ignorant people like you who lack knowledge of God that leads people to insult God.

Imagine you saying wet dreams is unconscious, you sound as if you know exactly what you're saying and that's what makes your ignorance an arrogance. So was ignorance an excuse for them not to be unclean.

Lust is lust, my post wasn't about the intention of an action so was in no way similar to what Jesus says who speaks about intention and heart.

Is lust to you is arousal then like I said sex is sin and every form of it is so.

Telling you that something is recognized by God and you jumping stupidly showed you lack humility to understand even the scriptures you quote.

Weep for yourself and those under you. Weep and let your tears be for them.

I would have corrected you n pointed out to you in meekness and love but since you as proud as your father the devil may your fate not be the same as your religious pride. But may your eyes see the light of truth and your voice not misled the blind.

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what a narrow mindset and I won't argue further with u seeing the ignorance from ur lips

but answer this simple question
what drives watching porn or fornication ?

pls answer this in relation to your myopic definition of lust.

BlueAngel444:


It's either I say it directly or I don't say it at all.

I NEVER CONDONED LUST but dude God will visit you with your false accusation

you didn't condone lust but you support masturbation driven by lust

self deceit is the worst kind of deceit