CHAP. XIV.

The earliest prophecy of the coming of
Christ.


THEN Adam said unto God: "O Lord, take
Thou my soul, and let me not see this
gloom any more; or remove me to some
place where there is no darkness."
2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Verily I
say unto thee, this darkness will pass from
thee, every day I have determined for thee,
until the fulfilment of My covenant; when I
will save thee and bring thee back again
into the garden, into the abode of light
thou longest for, wherein is no darkness. I
will bring thee, to it--in the kingdom of
heaven."
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3 Again said God unto Adam, "All this
misery that thou hast been made to take
upon thee because of thy transgression,
will not free thee from the hand of Satan,
and will not save thee.
4 "But I will. When I shall come down from
heaven, and shall become flesh of thy
seed, and take upon Me the infirmity from
which thou sufferest, then the darkness
that came upon thee in this cave shall
come upon Me in the grave, when I am in
the flesh of thy seed.
5 "And I, who am without years, shall be
subject to the reckoning of years, of times,
of months, and of days, and I shall be
reckoned as one of the sons of men, in
order to save thee."
6 And God ceased to commune with
Adam.


Next: Chapter XV

CHAP. XIII.

The fall of Adam. Why night and day were
created.


THEN when God, who is merciful and full of
pity, heard Adam's voice, He said unto
him:--
2 "O Adam, so long as the good angel was
obedient to Me, a bright light rested on
him and on his hosts.
3 "But when he transgressed My
commandment, I deprived him of that
bright nature, and he became dark.
4 "And when he was in the heavens, in the
realms of light, he knew naught of
darkness.
5 "But he transgressed, and I made him
fall from heaven upon the earth; and it was
this darkness that came upon him.
6 "And on thee, O Adam, while in My
garden and obedient to Me, did that bright
light rest also.
7 "But when I heard of thy transgression, I
deprived thee of that bright light. Yet, of
My mercy, I did not turn thee into
darkness, but I made thee thy body of
flesh, over which I spread this skin, in
order that it may bear cold and heat.
8 "If I had let My wrath fall
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heavily upon thee, I should have destroyed
thee; and had I turned thee into darkness,
it would have been as if I killed thee.
9 "But in My mercy, I have made thee as
thou art; when thou didst transgress My
commandment, O Adam, I drove thee from
the garden, and made thee come forth into
this land; and commanded thee to dwell in
this cave; and darkness came upon thee,
as it did upon him who transgressed My
commandment.
10 "Thus, O Adam, has this night deceived
thee. It is not to last for ever; but is only
of twelve hours; when it is over, daylight
will return.
11 "Sigh not, therefore, neither be moved;
and say not in thy heart that this darkness
is long and drags on wearily; and say not
in thy heart that I plague thee with it.
12 "Strengthen thy heart, and be not
afraid. This darkness is not a punishment.
But, O Adam, I have made the day, and
have placed the sun in it to give light; in
order that thou and thy children should do
your work.
13 "For I knew thou shouldest sin and
transgress, and come out into this land.
Yet would I not force thee, nor be heard
upon thee, nor shut up; nor doom thee
through thy fall; nor through thy coming
out from light into darkness; nor yet
through thy coining from the garden into
this land.
14 "For I made thee of the light; and I
willed to bring out children of light from
thee and like unto thee.
15 "But thou didst not keep one day My
commandment; until I had finished the
creation and blessed everything in it.
16 "Then I commanded thee concerning
the tree, that thou eat not thereof. Yet I
knew that Satan, who deceived himself,
would also deceive thee.
17 "So I made known to thee by means of
the tree, not to come near him. And I told
thee not to eat of the fruit thereof, nor to
taste of it, nor yet to sit under it, nor to
yield to it.
18 "Had I not been and spoken to thee, O
Adam, concerning the tree, and had I left
thee without a commandment, and thou
hadst sinned--it would have been an
offence on My part, for not having given
thee any order; thou wouldst turn round
and blame Me for it.
19 "But I commanded thee, and warned
thee, and thou didst fall. So that My
creatures cannot blame me; but the blame
rests on them alone.
20 "And, O Adam, I have made the day for
thee and for thy children after thee, for
them to work, and toil therein. And I have
made the night for them to rest in it from
their work; and for the beasts of the field
to go forth by night and seek their food.
21 "But little of darkness now remains, O
Adam; and daylight will soon appear."


Next: Chapter XIV

Chapter XII

How darkness came between Adam and
Eve .


THEN Adam smote upon his breast, he and
Eve, and they mourned the whole night
until dawn drew near, and they sighed over
the length of the night in Miyazia.
2 And Adam beat himself, and threw
himself on the ground in the cave, from
bitter grief, and because of the darkness,
and lay there as dead.
3 But Eve heard the noise he made in
falling upon the earth. And she felt about
for him with her hands, and found him like
a corpse.
4 Then she was afraid, speechless, and
remained by him.
5 But the merciful Lord looked on the
death of Adam, and on Eve's silence from
fear of the darkness.
6 And the Word of God came unto Adam
and raised him from his death, and opened
Eve's mouth that she might speak.
7 Then Adam arose in the cave and said,
"O God, wherefore has light departed from
us, and darkness come over us? Wherefore
dost Thou leave us in this long darkness?
Why wilt Thou plague us thus?
8 "And this darkness, O Lord, where was it
ere it came upon us? It is such, that we
cannot see each other.
9 "For, so long as we were in the garden,
we neither saw nor even knew what
darkness is. I was not hidden from Eve,
neither was she hidden from me, until now
that she cannot see me; and no darkness
came upon us, to separate us from each
other.
10 "But she and I were both in one bright
light. I saw her and she saw me. Yet now
since we came into this cave, darkness
has come upon us, and parted us asunder,
so that I do not see her, and she does not
see me.
11 "O Lord, wilt Thou then plague us with
this darkness?"

Next: Chapter XIII

CHAP. XI.

A recollection of the glorious days in the
Garden .


THEN Adam and Eve felt themselves
burning with thirst, and heat, and sorrow.
2 And Adam said to Eve, "We shall not
drink of this water, even if we were to die.
O Eve, when this water comes into our
inner parts, it will increase our
punishments and that of our children, that
shall come after us."
3 Both Adam and Eve then withdrew from
the water, and drank none of it at all; but
came and entered the Cave of Treasures.
4 But when in it Adam could not see Eve;
he only heard the noise she made. Neither
could she see Adam, but heard the noise
he made.
5 Then Adam wept, in deep affliction, and
smote upon his breast; and he arose and
said to Eve, "Where art thou?"
6 And she said unto him, "Lo, I am
standing in this darkness."
7 He then said to her, "Remember the
bright nature in which we lived, while we
abode in the garden!
8 "O Eve! remember the glory that rested
on us in the garden. O Eve! remember the
trees that overshadowed us in the garden
while we moved among them.
9 "O Eve! remember that while we were in
the garden, we knew neither night nor day.
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Think of the Tree of Life, from below which
flowed the water, and that shed lustre over
us! Remember, O Eve, the garden-land,
and the brightness thereof!
10 "Think, oh think of that garden in which
was no darkness, while we dwelt therein.
11 "Whereas no sooner did we come into
this Cave of Treasures than darkness
compassed us round about; until we can
no longer see each other; and all the
pleasure of this life has come to an end."


Next: Chapter XII

CHAP. X.

Their bodies need water after they leave
the Garden.


THEN God, merciful and gracious, looked
upon them thus lying in the water, and
nigh unto death, and sent an angel, who
brought them out of the water, and laid
them on the seashore as dead.
2 Then the angel went up to God, was
welcome, and said, "O God, Thy creatures
have breathed their last."
3 Then God sent His Word unto Adam and
Eve, who raised them from their death.
4 And Adam said, after he was raised, "O
God, while we were in the garden we did
not require, or care for this water; but
since we came to this land we cannot do
without it."
5 Then God said to Adam, "While thou
wast under My command and wast a
bright angel, thou knewest not this water.
6 "But after that thou hast transgressed
My commandment, thou canst not do
without water, wherein to wash thy body
and make it grow; for it is now like that of
beasts, and is in want of water."
7 When Adam and Eve heard these words
from God, they wept a bitter cry; and
Adam entreated God to let him return into
the garden, and look at it a second time.
8 But God said unto Adam, "I have made
thee a promise; when that promise is
fulfilled, I will bring thee back into the
garden, thee and thy righteous seed."
9 And God ceased to commune with
Adam.

CHAP. IX.

Water from the Tree of Life. Adam and Eve
near drowning .


THEN Adam and Eve came out of the Cave
of Treasures, and drew near to the garden
gate, and there they stood to look at it,
and wept for having come away from it.
2 And Adam and Eve went from before the
gate of the garden to the southern side of
it, and found there the water that watered
the garden, from the root of the Tree of
Life, and that parted itself from thence into
four rivers over the earth.
3 Then they came and drew near to that
water, and looked at it; and saw that it was
the water that came forth from under the
root of the Tree of Life in the garden.
4 And Adam wept and wailed, and smote
upon his breast, for being severed from the
garden; and said to Eve:--
5 "Why hast thou brought upon me, upon
thyself, and upon our seed, so many of
these plagues and punishments?"
6 And Eve said unto him, "What is it thou
hast seen, to weep and to speak to me in
this wise?"
7 And he said to Eve, "Seest thou not this
water that was with us in the garden, that
watered the trees of the garden, and flowed
out thence?
8 "And we, when we were in
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the garden, did not care about it; but since
we came to this strange land, we love it,
and turn it to use for our body."
9 But when Eve heard these words from
him, she wept; and from the soreness of
their weeping, they fell into that water; and
would have put an end to themselves in it,
so as never again to return and behold the
creation; for when they looked upon the
work of creation, they felt they must put
an end to themselves.


Next: Chapter X

CHAP. VIII.

The "Bright Nature" of man is taken away .


THEN Adam wept and said, "O God, when
we dwelt in the garden, and our hearts
were lifted up, we saw the angels that sang
praises in heaven, but now we do not see
as we were used to do; nay, when we
entered the cave, all creation became
hidden from us."
2 Then God the Lord said unto Adam,
"When thou wast under subjection to Me,
thou hadst a bright nature within thee, and
for that reason couldst thou see things afar
off. But after thy transgression thy bright
nature was withdrawn from thee; and it
was not left to thee to see things afar off,
but only near at hand; after the ability of
the flesh; for it is brutish."
3 When Adam and Eve had heard these
words from God, they went their way;
praising and worshipping Him with a
sorrowful heart.
4 And God ceased to commune with them.


Next: Chapter IX

Chap. VII.

The beasts are reconciled .

WHEN Adam and Eve heard these words
from God, they wept and sobbed yet more;
but they strengthened their hearts in God,
because they now felt that the Lord was to
them like a father and a mother; and for
this very reason, they wept before Him,
and sought mercy from Him.
2 Then God had pity on them, and said: "O
Adam, I have made My covenant with thee,
and I will not turn from it; neither will I let
thee return to the garden, until My
covenant of the great five days and a half
is fulfilled."
3 Then Adam said unto God, "O Lord,
Thou didst create us, and make us fit to
be in the garden; and before I
transgressed, Thou madest all beasts
come to me, that I should name them.
4 "Thy grace was then on me; and I named
every one according to Thy mind; and
Thou madest them all subject unto me.
5 "But now, O Lord God, that I have
transgressed Thy commandment,
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all beasts will rise against me and will
devour me, and Eve Thy handmaid; and
will cut off our life from the face of the
earth.
6 "I therefore beseech Thee, O God, that,
since Thou hast made us come out of the
garden, and hast made us be in a strange
land, Thou wilt not let the beasts hurt us."
7 When the Lord heard these words from
Adam, He had pity on him, and felt that he
had truly said that the beasts of the field
would rise and devour him and Eve,
because He, the Lord, was angry with them
two on account of their transgression.
8 Then God commanded the beasts, and
the birds, and all that moves upon the
earth, to come to Adam and to be familiar
with him, and not to trouble him and Eve;
nor yet any of the good and righteous
among their posterity.
9 Then the beasts did obeisance to Adam,
according to the commandment of God;
except the serpent, against which God was
wroth. It did not come to Adam, with the
beasts.


Next: Chapter VIII

Chapter VI

God's admonition to Adam and Eve in
which he points out how and why they
sinned .


BUT God looked upon them; for they had
killed themselves through great grief.
2 But He would raise them and comfort
them.
3 He, therefore, sent His Word unto them;
that they should stand and be raised
forthwith.
4 And the Lord said unto Adam and Eve,
"You transgressed of your own free will,
until you came out of the garden in which I
had placed you.
5 "Of your own free will have you
transgressed through your desire for
divinity, greatness, and an exalted state,
such as I have; so that I deprived you of
the bright nature in which you then were,
and I made you come out of the garden to
this land, rough and full of trouble.
6 "If only you had not transgressed My
commandment and had kept My law, and
had not eaten of the fruit of the tree, near
which I told you not to come! And there
were fruit trees in the garden better than
that one.
7 "But the wicked Satan who continued not
in his first estate, nor kept his faith; in
whom was no good intent towards Me,
and who though I had created him, yet set
Me at naught, and sought the Godhead, so
that I hurled him down from heaven,--he it
is who made the tree appear pleasant in
your eyes, until you ate of it, by hearkening
to him.
8 "Thus have you transgressed My
commandment, and therefore have I
brought upon you all these sorrows.
9 "For I am God the Creator, who, when I
created My creatures, did not intend to
destroy them. But after they had sorely
roused My anger, I punished them with
grievous plagues, until they repent.
10 "But, if on the contrary, they still
continue hardened in their transgression,
they shall be under a curse for ever."


Next: Chapter VII

I personally don't know why the forgotten books of Eden weren't put it the bible because it answered a lot of questions especially for those who had questions concerning Genesis.
its actually eye opening but saddens me because a lot of souls who would have believed or who fell by the way in their belief in God was because of some of the unanswered questions in the beginning of the Bible
so I thought it best to share the scriptures I
of the book to you all.

Translated and compiled in 1926 by esteemed
scholar Rutherford Hayes Platt, The Forgotten
Books of Eden is a beautiful collection of
apocrypha and pseudepigrapha that is sure to
enrich and deepen your appreciation of the
Biblical canon. Though these stories, for
whatever reason, were excluded from The Bible
by its original compilers, they were written
alongside the texts we’ve come to know and
love so well.
The stories in this book expand on canonical
Bible chapters and fill in some gaps that
inquisitive Bible readers may have wondered
about since they were children. Among the
many books included in this collection are:
The First and Second Books of Adam and Eve
The Secrets of Enoch
The Psalms of Solomon
The Odes of Solomon
The Letter of Aristeas
The Fourth Book of Maccabees
And numerous others

Although it’s certainly no substitute for The
Word itself, The Forgotten Books of Eden
enhances and expands on The Old Testament
and will lead you to new insights and a deeper
understanding of your faith.

for those that keep asking "Why didn't God prevent Adam and Eve from eaten the forbidden Fruit ?" the answers from God himself is there


happy reading & feel free to ask questions and discuss.
also if you missed the previous chapters I
shared before starting from Chapter 1 you can check the topics I shared.

CHAP. V.

In which Eve makes a noble and
emotionable intercession, taking the blame
on herself .

THEN Adam and Eve entered the cave, and
stood praying, in their own tongue,
unknown to us, but which they knew well.
2 And as they prayed, Adam raised his
eyes, and saw the rock and the roof of the
cave that covered him overhead, so that
he could see neither heaven, nor God's
creatures. So he wept and smote heavily
upon his breast, until he dropped, and was
as dead.
3 And Eve sat weeping; for she believed he
was dead.
4 Then she arose, spread her hands
towards God, suing Him for mercy and
pity, and said, "O God, forgive me my sin,
the sin which I committed, and remember
it not against me.
5 "For I alone caused Thy servant to fall
from the garden into this lost estate; from
light into this darkness; and from the
abode of joy into this prison.
6 "O God, look upon this Thy servant thus
fallen, and raise him from his death, that
he may weep and repent of his
transgression which he committed through
me.
7 "Take not away his soul this once; but
let him live that he may stand after the
measure of his repentance, and do Thy
will, as before his death.
8 "But if Thou do not raise him up, then, O
God, take away my own soul, that I be like
him; and leave me not in this dungeon,
one and alone; for I could not stand alone
in this world, but with him only.
9 "For Thou, O God, didst cause a slumber
to come upon him, and didst take a bone
from his side, and didst restore the flesh in
the place of it, by Thy divine power.
10 "And Thou didst take me, the bone, and
make me a woman, bright like him, with
heart, reason, and speech; and in flesh, like
unto his own; and Thou didst make me
after the likeness of his countenance, by
Thy mercy and power.
11 "O Lord, I and he are one and Thou, O
God, art our Creator, Thou are He who
made us both in one day.
12 "Therefore, O God, give
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him life, that he may be with me in this
strange land, while we dwell in it on
account of our transgression.
13 "But if Thou wilt not give him life, then
take me, even me, like him; that we both
may die the same day."
14 And Eve wept bitterly, and fell upon our
father Adam; from her great sorrow.


To be continued...

You can comment ur findings from these scriptures
its mind blowing; learning a lot

CHAP. IV.

Adam laments the changed conditions.

Adam and Eve enter the Cave of Treasures .
BUT Adam and Eve wept for having come
out of the garden, their first abode.
2 And, indeed, when Adam looked at his
flesh, that was altered, he wept bitterly, he
and Eve, over what they had done. And
they walked and went gently down into the
Cave of Treasures.
3 And as they came to it Adam wept over
himself and said to Eve, "Look at this cave
that is to be our prison in this world, and a
place of punishment!
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4 "What is it compared with the garden?
What is its narrowness compared with the
space of the other?
5 "What is this rock, by the side of those
groves? What is the gloom of this cavern,
compared with the light of the garden?
6 "What is this overhanging ledge of rock
to shelter us, compared with the mercy of
the Lord that overshadowed us?
7 "What is the soil of this cave compared
with the garden-land? This earth, strewed
with stones; and that, planted with
delicious fruit-trees?"
8 And Adam said to Eve, "Look at thine
eyes, and at mine, which afore beheld
angels in heaven, praising; and they, too,
without ceasing.
9 "But now we do not see as we did: our
eyes have become of flesh; they cannot
see in like manner as they saw before."
10 Adam said again to Eve, "What is our
body to-day, compared to what it was in
former days, when we dwelt in the
garden?"
11 After this Adam did not like to enter the
cave, under the overhanging rock; nor
would he ever have entered it.
12 But he bowed to God's orders; and said
to himself, "Unless I enter the


To be continued

CHAP. III.

Concerning the promise of the great five
days and a half .
GOD said to Adam, "I have ordained on
this earth days and years, and thou and
thy seed shall dwell and walk in it, until the
days and years are fulfilled; when I shall
send the
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Word that created thee, and against which
thou hast transgressed, the Word that
made thee come out of the garden and that
raised thee when thou wast fallen.
2 Yea, the Word that will again save thee
when the five days and a half are fulfilled."
3 But when Adam heard these words from
God, and of the great five days and a half,
he did not understand the meaning of
them.
4 For Adam was thinking that there would
be but five days and a half for him, to the
end of the world.
5 And Adam wept, and prayed God to
explain it to him.
6 Then God in His mercy for Adam who
was made after His own image and
similitude, explained to him, that these
were 5,000 and 500 years; and how One
would then come and save him and his
seed.
7 But God had before that made this
covenant with our father, Adam, in the
same terms, ere he came out of the
garden, when he was by the tree whereof
Eve took the fruit and gave it him to eat.
8 Inasmuch as when our father Adam
came out of the garden, he passed by that
tree, and saw how God had then changed
the appearance of it into another form, and
how it withered.
9 And as Adam went to it he feared,
trembled and fell down; but God in His
mercy lifted him up, and then made this
covenant with him.
10 And, again, when Adam was by the
gate of the garden, and saw the cherub
with a sword of flashing fire in his hand,
and the cherub grew angry and frowned at
him, both Adam and Eve became afraid of
him, and thought he meant to put them to
death. So they fell on their faces, and
trembled with fear.
11 But he had pity on them, and showed
them mercy; and turning from them went
up to heaven, and prayed unto the Lord,
and said:--
12 "Lord, Thou didst send me to watch at
the gate of the garden, with a sword of fire.
13 "But when Thy servants, Adam and Eve,
saw me, they fell on their faces, and were
as dead. O my Lord, what shall we do to
Thy servants?"
14 Then God had pity on them, and
showed them mercy, and sent His Angel to
keep the garden.
15 And the Word of the Lord came unto
Adam and Eve, and raised them up.
16 And the Lord said to Adam, "I told thee
that at the end of five days and a half, I will
send my Word and save thee.
17 "Strengthen thy heart, therefore, and
abide in the Cave of Treasures, of which I
have before spoken to thee."
18 And when Adam heard this Word from
God, he was comforted with that which
God had told him. For He had told him
how He would save him.


To be continued....

CHAP. II.

Adam and Eve faint upon leaving the
Garden. God sends His word to encourage
them .

BUT when our father Adam, and Eve, went
out of the garden, they trod the ground on
their feet, not knowing they were treading.
2 And when they came to the opening of
the gate of the garden, and saw the broad
earth spread before them, covered with
stones large and small, and with sand,
they feared and trembled, and fell on their
faces, from the fear that came upon them;
and they were as dead.
3 Because--whereas they had hitherto
been in the garden-land, beautifully
planted with all manner of trees--they now
saw themselves, in a strange land, which
they knew not, and had never seen.
4 And because at that time they were filled
with the grace of a bright nature, and they
had not hearts turned towards earthly
things.
5 Therefore had God pity on them; and
when He saw them fallen before the gate of
the garden, He sent His Word unto father
Adam and Eve, and raised them from their
fallen state.


To be Continued...

The insights of these book syncs well with Genesis


The First Book of Adam and Eve
The Second Book of Adam and Eve
The Book of the Secrets of Enoch
The Psalms of Solomon
The Odes of Solomon
The Letter of Aristeas
Fourth Book of Maccabees
The Story of Ahikar
The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
Testament of Reuben
Testament of Simeon
Testament of Levi
The Testament of Judah
The Testament of Issachar
The Testament of Zebulun
The Testament of Dan
The Testament of Naphtali
The Testament Of Gad
The Testament of Asher
The Testament of Joseph
The Testament of Benjamin



The First Book of Adam and Eve

Chapter I

The crystal sea. God commands Adam,
expelled from Eden, to dwell in the Cave of
Treasures .
ON the third day, God planted the garden
in the east of the earth, on the border of
the world eastward, beyond which, towards
the sun-rising, one finds nothing but
water, that encompasses the whole world,
and reaches unto the borders of heaven.
2 And to the north of the garden there is a
sea of wafer, clear and pure to the taste,
like unto nothing else; so that, through the
clearness thereof, one may
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look into the depths of the earth.
3 And when a man washes himself in it,
becomes clean of the cleanness thereof,
and white of its whiteness--even if he
were dark.
4 And God created that sea of His own
good pleasure, for He knew what would
come of the man He should make; so that
after he had left the garden, on account of
his transgression, men should be born in
the earth, from among whom righteous
ones should die, whose souls God would
raise at the last day; when they should
return to their flesh; should bathe in the
water of that sea, and all of them repent of
their sins.
5 But when God made Adam go out of the
garden, He did not place him on the border
of it northward, lest he should draw near to
the sea of water, and he and Eve wash
themselves in it, be cleansed from their
sins, forget the transgression they had
committed, and he no longer reminded of
it in the thought of their punishment.
6 Then, again, as to the southern side of
the garden, God was not pleased to let
Adam dwell there; because, when the wind
blew from the north, it would bring him, on
that southern side, the delicious smell of
the trees of the garden.
7 Wherefore God did not put Adam there,
lest he should smell the sweet smell of
those trees forget his transgression, and
find consolation for what he had done, take
delight in the smell of the trees, and not be
cleansed from his transgression.
8 Again, also, because God is merciful and
of great pity, and governs all things in a
way He alone knows--He made our father
Adam dwell in the western border of the
garden, because on that side the earth is
very broad.
9 And God commanded him to dwell there
in a cave in a rock--the Cave of Treasures
below the garden.


To be continued
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VisioDirect:
To the bible scholar in the house, why was the name of the Messiah translated or changed from his known Hebrew name while here on earth from Yeshua Hamashiach to Jesus Christ, is there any biblical reason for this deed?

I will appreciate any input on this question, especially how we came about the name Jesus Christ, considering that early Bible release does not refer to the Messiah as Jesus Christ, for example, the first King James version released in 1611, also, the English invented and started using the letter J in the year 1640, so how did we come about the name of the Messiah to be Jesus Christ?

Till this day, only the names of the Christain God (YHWH or Yahweh), Yeshua Hamashiach and other bible figures have their names completely changed in the history of mankind in which the new names given to them have got no similarity to the original names. None of the pronunciation sound like the real name including that of the Messiah.

Meanwhile Malachi 3:6 says “For I am the LORD, I change not”.

God is known by many names.
stop misquoting verse

when I pray to Jesus Christ my reference is to the one that died for us all at the cross.
it is not the name but the person behind the name that matters or you refer directly to
so long the personality isn't contradictory like you have God and Allah ..if you study well the Bible & quaran their personality and commandments are different but many think Muslim believe in the same God Christians do..that is false.

you must pray for understanding

because its even evident that a concept may have different names across cultures thats why God the personality could have many varying names he is referred to but only is it the personality behind the name; that should be your question about the varying name of Christ.

and are you telling me that Jesus the name is bad ?
because I know there were others that answered the name. but varying personalities

you forgot even that Christ heavenly name is Immanuel/Emmanuel.
and that the book of revelation emphasized The name Christ than Jesus

read ur Bible well and ask the Holy spirit for understanding, put a lot of context to it than thanks only content

BlueAngel444:


Thanks.

Peoples mind are mostly on money, except those that understand Jesus's true teachings on the subject of money.

When Jesus says, those who have money hardly enter God's Kingdom, I believe that word have! means store. That is those who store money

wow a revelation struck me now
God hated it when some Israelites stored food given to them at the wilderness because specifically he instructed them not to
also he hated the rich man in a parable who stored a lot in his barn for himself

aadoiza:
The OP kept banging the word 'scholars' in my big ears, now my simple questions: 1. who are these scholars(names)? What faith(s) do they profess?
Your answers will determine my approach to your epistle.

thank u for this

self deceit is the worst kind of deceit

he is implying the Bible is made up by men but referring us to men that generated those contrary findings.
his ignorance is appalling

FOLYKAZE:
The christian faith is centred on gospel of Jesus and Jewish history as narrated in the bible. The account of Jesus's life and all his theological teachings stem directly from the Genesis creation narrative, Noah flood, Israelite exodus, and Babylonia exile down to the birth of the so called messiah. But since it is found that many of the accounts have no basis in history, how come Christians still hold onto their faith? In the face of reality, vividly exposing that the accounts and narratives from Genesis till the end is fiction, and the characters captured in the entire bible are legends, on what exactly are Christians rooting their faith? Are Christians really trusting on folktales to bring them heaven/paradise they hope for?

The bible accounts, as interesting as it sound have no single basis in history. The creation story, many churches have accepted that it is metaphoric or philosophical which shouldn't be taken as happening at a historic time or place. The catholic and many Christian denominations admitted that the story of Adam and Eve is more allegorical, specially designed for theological purposes, without any basis in history. The Noah and the global flooding account too have no basis in history. Up till this moment, not a single shred of evidence have been found to buttress there was any global flooding on this planet. The global flooding and ark narration have so many parallels which further exposes the mythical nature of the account, having no basis in history. Up till date, no single shred of evidence have been presented that Noah or his Ark existed.

One of the story I loved back then as a child is the Exodus. The account detail Israelis enslavement in Egypt, emancipation by Moses, sojourn through the wilderness and the military campaign that rounded up Canaan. Findings have shown that the whole Exodus is pure work of fiction, not having any fact. There is no Moses, Israelite were never in or enslaved in Egypt, Pharaoh and his people were not plagued by any Yahweh, the Red sea was not parted, the wildernesses sojourn have no basis in history, and Canaan was not overran by Israel military forces. Archaeological evidence revealed that all the accounts about Israel in the bible is myth.

The monarchy reign of David and Solomon in the United kingdom of Israel is all false. Archaeological findings expose that Israel is a small clan in Canaan, having no king. There is no evidence or traces of the Solomon temple. The captivity by Babylon is more reconstructions of facts though. However, the bible rather provides half truth laced with propaganda which makes the whole account unacceptable as historical fact.

The Jesus account is majorly work of fiction. While many would argue that there is a historical personality known as Jesus as recorded by Apostle Paul, Gospels, and non Christian sources like Josephus and Tacitus, the fact remains that these are not eye witness account which can easily be dismissed. The earliest manuscript that recorded the person of Jesus is written somewhere around 60yrs after Jesus crucifixion. The gospel of Matthew, Luke and John all copied from accounts in the book of Mark. The authorship of the gospel of Mark is a subject if debate. However, the general consensus among the scholars is that whoever wrote the gospel of Mark is not providing an eye witness account but simply relaying heavily distorted traditions.

The Zombies invasion and the wingless ascension of Jesus is a popular incidence which would supposedly be witnessed by many people, but no one expect in the gospels wrote about it. Josephus and Tacitus mentioned that a person called Jesus or Christ but left out the major events recorded in the gospel. Josephus original writings has not been found, and scholars argued that the word 'Jesus' found in the Testimonium Flavianum is Christian interpolation. Tacitus was born 25yrs after the death of Jesus. None of this writings provided an eye witness account. They are majorly tradition with no factual basis.

The gospels have loads of inconsistency and contradictions. Apostle Paul admitted he learned the creed. As a matter of fact, Paul's sister and nephew were converted Christians before he converted. He also confessed he met with James and Peter for days, many years after his conversion. So it is nothing new, Paul converted base on tradition he was told to.

At a point, Paul questioned the basis of his faith, exactly what I wanted Christians to do. Apostle Paul, who didn't met Jesus or witnessed his death queried if Jesus truly died and resurrected. He questioned the historicity of Jesus crucifixion, noting with doubt that his faith and missionary job is in vain if peradventure there is no Jesus that died and resurrected. The inquiry furthermore buttressed that Paul only knew the traditional story of Jesus, and not the historical fact. Reason he added that one should find and stick to truth only.

My questions to my brothers who are Christians, how do you keep onto faith knowing that all the narration recorded in the bible have no basis in history? Where exactly is the confidence of hope drawn from knowing that the Bible stories are fables having no substances in history? How can you strongly trust that a Jesus who never exist as accounted would take you to heaven/paradise? What is the basis of your faith; historical fairies or historical facts?

Cc shadeyinka, EMILO2STAY, Maximus69, MuttleyLaff

"sometimes ignorance is a fools paradise & and assumption a dark room" - Daniel Mcgie

"there are 3 types of knowledge ranked from the least to the best namely; 1) Assumption 2) Fact 3) Revelation, Revelation is truth & superior" - Rose Andrew

all I ask from you since rejecting Christ; thus rejecting God existence is that you please "save my mankind"

I guess your resolution from the trash you wrote was "mankind can't be saved"

food for thought (two of the many weaknesses in ur write up)

if Christ was imaginary why would Peter who loved his business of fishing abandon it the second time to go do instructions of preaching the Gospel ?
(was peter one of the disciples of Christ also imaginary ?)

So in jewish history there was never Pontus Pilate, Pharisees, john the Baptist, Nicodemus, mary etc ?
(because if you removing Christ out of the picture u will remove other personalities, places & prophecies in play during his time)

ur point is we shouldn't believe the Bible but ignorantly believe history & arechological findings generated by men.

wow I don't know ur mission here but be careful
ur ignorance reeks

the unarmed civilians will not remain intimidated

(International Christian Concern) – A new respiratory virus with origins in the Chinese city of Wuhan has now infected 8,200 people across the world, and has claimed nearly 200 lives.
The outbreak of the coronavirus, which causes pneumonia-like symptoms, prompted Chinese authorities to quarantine several major cities. The usual lunar new year holidays, which typically last no more than 10 days long, have also been tentatively extended to mid-February to prevent the disease from
spreading further.

In this time of desperation and fear, China’s Christian community, which has suffered an intensified crackdown by the government in recent years, has stepped up to fill in the gap left unattended by the
incompetent authorities.
A Chinese Christian Twitter user shared on January 27, “Some overseas Christians shipped supplies designated to serve local hospitals through local churches, with the intention to ask them to pass on
to the hospitals. Yet the supplies were confiscated, and the Christian who received the shipment was invited to ‘have tea’ with the police (which is a
common practice employed to intimidate and threaten citizens).”
Christian human rights lawyer Sui Muqing, who has been sharing updates and comments on the outbreak online, received calls from the police and was asked to delete his posts. They called his recent commentaries on Wuhan pneumonia excessive and claimed that his words have caused social damage to the Party and the country.

“If you do not delete [the post], we will
take further measures,” said the police,
who acknowledged that the order “came
from [a] higher level.”

When maintaining stability through censorship remains a top priority for the government, innocent citizens are left to fend for themselves. Emotions are running high as many were advised to self-quarantine until further notice, and masks are flying off the shelves.

Christians in Wuhan seek to bring a message of peace and hope to their neighbors with creativity. A video shared by Father Francis Liu from Chinese Christian Fellowship of Righteousness shows that encouraging sermons are being broadcasted to their communities
through speakers placed on balconies. A Christian rode his bike to a pharmacy where people gathered and played a sermon through a portable speaker.
Another video shows that Christians were distributing face masks and Gospel pamphlets to passersby on the streets. Playing in the background was a message broadcasted to address the fear and uncertainties of ongoing crisis.
Activities like this would normally attract the police’s attention and Christians would face possible threats or arrest. Yet, during this unusual time, most streets are
empty and the authorities are occupied looking after themselves, so these Christians are able to carry out their activities.
Christians from other provinces offer their homes to host people fleeing from Hubei province who face housing discrimination. Brother Jia Xuewei and sister Shu Qiong, from the heavily persecuted Early Rain Covenant Church in Sichuan, decided to open up their homes and cover the escapees’ room and board until Hubei lifts its quarantine.
Local pastors share uplifting words and encourage Christians to stay strong. Pastor Huang Lei from Wuhan’s Root and Fruit Church published an article on
January 24, saying, “While the real situation is possibly more severe and complicated than what is known, regardless of what circumstances we are in, we should not worry and fear all the disasters, pandemic, and death, ‘because He is the Lord of our lives. If He does not allow [it to happen], we will not even have a single hair fall out from our heads.’”
Pastor Tan Songhua from Wuhan Cornerstone Church also told his congregation that although they face trials of faith and personal safety, Jesus only has “plans to prosper you and not to harm you (Jeremiah 29:11).” He then called on Christians to pray for this city, and bring the peace of Christ to everyone.

Please pray for the city of Wuhan: for the epidemic to stop spreading and experts to find a cure soon; and for local Christians to be able to bring Good News to their neighbors amid confusion, stress, and hopelessness.


by Gina Goh

k2money:

If you are born to a Muslim family and happen to be those living in the part of whom that beliefs that they were fighting for God, you would have being carrying sword up and down to kill people for that your God that can't defend himself.

Awww what a nice erroneous assumption.. continue ok

k2money:
Are you the Holy spirit? Leave the holy spirit to fight his fight.

when they are caught off guard they try to avoid the question.

Donald7610:
Your insult too much
Don't discuss Bible like you do

pls learn the difference between labeling, cursing & insulting before u quote me again

Kenneth10110:


Jesus never insulted or forced anyone to believe him

and neither did I insult or was forcing Christ on anyone. stop lying

k2money:

Shut your face scammer which holy spirit you get? Thief that's how they will be going around deceiving people of the spirit in them. That your spirit that can not do good thing but to inflict people with deadly disease. That disease kill you there.

its between you now and the Holy spirit.
only I pray that God shows mercy on u bro

LeeSantos:


I wished you could record what you wrote and play it to your ears, just to hear how meaningless your answer is.
There is absolutely nothing to pick from your writings. Reading it was a disturbance to one's brain.

it's all about understanding..
and know u understand..
happy Sunday

am glad you made no sense

LeeSantos:


I wished you could record what you wrote and play it to your ears, just to hear how meaningless your answer is.
There is absolutely nothing to pick from your writings. Reading it was a disturbance to one's brain.

it's all about understanding..

am glad you made no sense

Otunba2004:
believe me bro.you can never fight on behalf of God does that hell is your home,do you believe that?if you don't then you didn't believe in scripture

.isn't it said that those called God's elects are they that won't deny him or keep their Mouth shut when the word of God is attacked.

plus your error is that u believe that I defend God of my own. but u forgot the Holy Spirit.

answer this pls
will the Holy spirit in a Christian keep quiet when God is accused unjustly ?

k2money:

This your rant portraits you of whom you are, is your kind that turn Boko Haram trying tó defend their imaginary god

am glad you made no sense

BearHugss:
You're the fool here.

am glad u made no sense

MasterRahl:
Why must you call her a fool? Someone reads a passage of the Bible and doesn't understand. She comes online to seek answers and you respond by calling her a fool?

please don't assume and find out the intention of Post by the op