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Politics / Re: 3/4 Of Nigerian Diaspora Lack Insight by invisible2(m): 7:04am On Oct 26, 2010
I think the cause of the problem is that some think because they live abroad, they dont need to come back and help with correcting things here. When things eventually get better after our efforts, they will come in with their Toronto degrees and want boys here to leave my job for him. Where were they during the fight? Hiding behind a computer?
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 6:53am On Oct 26, 2010
shotster50:

@ Invisible

Sorry.
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Apology accepted.
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 6:45am On Oct 26, 2010
For those doubting my figures, I didnt go abroad to count, We see it everyday here. There is this proverb that "There is no place that you have a yarm farm that will be unknown to all your kinsmen" as such, there is nowhere you go and do evil where the story/signs will not be so ominous. We know oursselves.
I dont have anything against them either, but let them stop using every opportunity to lash out against people here, thier attacks on their brothers here are too unbrotherly. One called those of us here lazy, cowards and visionless. He said the bright ones are abroad, can you imagine that? We cannot afford to look down on a whole people because they choose a way of life different from our own. Thanks.
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 6:32am On Oct 26, 2010
shinaidowu:

Hahaha if US visa is hard to get,try a Canadian one lwkmd.Well I guess your stats about 85 percent is very wrong don't know where you got that from. At least the people I know abroad might not all have good jobs like myself but they are definitely not all crooks.Most of them work very hard to make ends meet.They would definitely come back if the situation is favourable.

We know you do legitimate business, I wasnt expecting to see anyone come out and agree to robbing banks to survive there.
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 6:28am On Oct 26, 2010
ode remo:

dont get you gripe mr. Invinsible. Yor ascertion of 85 per.cent comes frm where.? Anyway whats is the big diff. Btw someone doing a ddecent job to keep his fam. Together abroad or lazing around nija jobless, which would you pref? concentrate on solving the amount of joblessness in 9ja first andwhile you are it try to understand y ppl are even ready to migrate to sudan of all places. Tank u.
My figure comes from around me, the ones I know, the ones I hear of and the ones swearing to 'do anything' to make money once they set their foot there. It might interest you to know that a robber sought by the police here had fled to S Africa and hit millions in nine months (dont tell me he won the lottery) he came back with two SUV, bought multiple lands and his former gang members are now rushing to southie.
Those doing good business in southie are poorer than when they left here. Its only those that 'hit hard' that make it.
Business / Re: Mobil Agrees To Pay Commandclem $236.9 Billion (documents Attached) by invisible2(m): 2:13am On Oct 26, 2010
Footreja is one of the names fyneguy/nsiman uses (we sabi you)
this scam is very similar to Abach wife mails only that it has dud websites set up just to defraud people. There is nothing authentic in the sites except the same gory details about senseless claims of a hopeless criminal who have lost all sense of moralty.
An attempt to verify the website will lead you into the trap they have set, fyneguy is using multiple IDs to ask and answer himself questions (I dont envy his wahala)
how wicked can some people really be? You scammed people and still printed a rubbish newspaper to keep them busy and keep reading about hopeless hope, and what an irony, comandclem reporting of "fraud in Union bank" and NASS? He is a bigger thief! Fyneguy,
We need to catch you for hand, cut you inch by inch.
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 1:37am On Oct 26, 2010
9ja4eva:

LMAO @ Thread oooooo


@ Poster

I understand you perfectly well.I don't agree with the 85% rating.
Nigerians in Diaspora one thing i know they do is they lie a lot about what they do for a living.They never tell their people back home what their real status is.
Most Nigerians that work in club toilets for instance tell people back home that they are accountants,doctors e.t.c My thing is if you are proud of what you
do why hide it from people back home?


And thats the one that annoys me, many of them never washed toilets in naija. Now abroad they wash toilets, wash corpse, thief join am sef! Please try and rebrand Nigeria, any work below bank jobs, brothers beg refus it.
Family / Re: Haba by invisible2(m): 1:28am On Oct 26, 2010
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Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 1:19am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

uum . . . nets have been provided for decades. I remember getting my free net back in the 80's when I was in secondary school. Not certain why you are posting as if they are brand new WONDERS in the fight against malaria. ROFLMAO!
Actually, the government(yar adua) purchased millions worth of nets but that only goes so far and the nets are to be replaced each year. I am not certain Jonathan has any plans to continue that program as it was really expensive, to say the least. 
But no, the malaria situation is not really dying down. If anything, it is been discovered that mosquitoes now bite during the day and at night as well, and the parasite is becoming more and more resistant to drugs.
How old are you?  I get the sense I am chatting with someone who still clings to a myopic view of life there.


Those nets dont last only a year, it can stay ten years if theydont tear. Mosquitoes do bite in the afternoon but ask any Nigerian, we are overestimating this risk. Folks dont even bother to hang nets these days. And truly, its been long I heard about malaria related deaths, but maybe its because I dont visit hospitals often.

I am older than you, for sure.
Business / Re: Mobil Agrees To Pay Commandclem $236.9 Billion (documents Attached) by invisible2(m): 1:06am On Oct 26, 2010
Footreja! Footreja!! Footreja!!! How many times did I call you, forget these people. Any money you give/gave them is lost, forget the money, the court cases and the promoters. Face your life and dont believe in fallacy.
Comandclem is a gigantic fraud!!!
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:58am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

I think rather than trying to excuse the situation, you would do better to get yourself a better understanding of what the situation really is.
No, it has actually not gotten better. It gets worse by the day and that is why organizations around the world are investing billions each year into research to help tackle the problem and bring down the death rate.
By the way, are you somehow suggesting that people have no right to escape Nigeria because of Malaria. I have a friend who had to do same for health reasons. Are you suggesting she is not allowed because you say so or that people cannot do it?


Its getting better because there are more nets now, free nets from NGOs around the world. One can escape temporarily for health reasons, but to run permanently is not good enough. They will run back here if we librate this country, they will then tell us they hate winters!
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:47am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

So what? Why exactly is it your business? You didn't answer the questions asked. Is this particular man telling you that he is suffering? Is he crying that he wants to head back to Nigeria? Is it the case that he does not have money to travel back to Nigeria if he wanted to? Did he express to you that he hates working where he does out on the farms? I am trying to understand what your point is, if any? Why are you the arbiter for this particular man's case?


No, am only saying he missed out on N170 million worth of land and he has not come back since the past 12 years to give us any oranges and yes, his girlfriend/fiancee is complaining bitterly, age is no longer on her side.
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:39am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Sigh . . . . the point is the Malaria situation in the developing world is nothing to make JOKES about/make light/ or attempt to compare with anything happening in the western world in the childish manner many are used to doing. What next will you do? Compare the number of disabled in Nigeria with that of those in developed countries? Please understand when something is bothering on silly and know to stop, even if your ego urges you continue. Thousands of children, many below the age of 5, die yearly from malaria, I am not certain you would be here trying to make this silly comparisons if your child has fallen victim to such.
This Nigeria vs developed world match is nothing but stupidity, and I refuse to get into it if that is what you are trying to drive this to. The topic here is one probably asked by someone looking to do something rational. I would rather continue we continue with that.


I dont mean to make light of malaria situation, what am saying is that its no longer as bad as we paint it. There are nets here but some dont need it. My home has never witnessed mosquitoes, ever. To think someone will escape naija because of malaria is odd.
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:32am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

So never mind that he SOLD the land(I am guessing he can't go back to the land anymore), you have an issue instead with him picking oranges for a white farmer? Has this man expressed interest in moving back home to his father or Nigeria? Or are you assuming that because he is, according to you, picking oranges for a white farmer, his condition is definitely a miserable one, and he( not sure if you read his mind or anything) would rather be back in Nigeria?

If only you know that Oceanic bank bought one of those plots for N17 million two years ago,now how many oranges is that worth?
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 12:26am On Oct 26, 2010
jabbok:

@Poster, You have not said anything. The subject of your post is as good as "The pope is a catholic"

@moderator, pls remove this thread, no matter how true this is, this is the media/information age and we shouldn't nail ourselves. This is NairaLand

How would you like to hear it, it wouldnt be fair if I say Jabbok is a crook na?
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:21am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Whose Parents? Aren't you making a huge leap there in your assumption that their parents have farms somewhere?

Most do, I know a guy who sold his dads 10 plots of land and travelled to Austria where he is picking oranges for a white farmer.
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:15am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Please let us use our heads here. Even drug dealers here have access to healthcare --- You will be shocked that they do not drop dead like flies as you will assume. So, no, you cannot even compare that with Malaria deaths in most of the developing world. To attempt such will be to reveal ignorance. Please, get back to the topic
Sorry, are you saying those that are sick with malaria in naija have no access to hospitals.
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:08am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

ROFLMAO!!!

I am sorry but it turns out it is probably the case that the numbers are LOWER than they really ought to be. Sort of like the unemployment rate that is set at about 19.7% for Nigeria. I wholly believe it is at least double that number if anything. Only this week, it was discovered that the number of deaths attributed to Malaria in india is about 3( or was it 13) times higher than old estimates.

Drug related crimes in Nigeria? Why are we now jumping to drugs on this topic? It was weird enough that someone introduced disease without even using his head to reason on that one.


No bros, I was talking about drug related deaths abroad in comparison to malaria deaths in naija.
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 12:03am On Oct 26, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Well, honestly, I don't know anyone like that. But I am guessing there are probably people who do not have the money to go back but I doubt they would want to go back penniless. I know I wouldn't. I mean who would want to land in Nigeria penniless?
But their parents have arable land back home where they can farm na? Why suffer themselves like that?
hackney:

Im ok over here biko please.
i dont need that nonsense in nigeria.
last december period driving from ikoyi to only lekki took 3hrs.

id-ots doing a u-turn in the middle of the road.
let's not abeg.

Givesyou time to evaluate the scenery and appraise some real estate. Why spend your life in haste?
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 11:55pm On Oct 25, 2010
Kobojunkie:

@Invisible, please research how many lives that disease claims in Nigeria, Africa and also India each year. compare that with FLu cases here or anywhere, and that might help you make a better case.

Dont believe all those data from Nigeria, a country that cant count their people and they can give a correct malaria figure? Just people looking to inflate the figure and get patronage from donor agencies.
Btw, what is the figure of people that die in drug related crimes?
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 11:50pm On Oct 25, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Correction: Not everyone goes abroad with illusions. Matter of fact, most people actually know what to expect. There  are, however, the few who have their hands dirty with crime down in Nigeria, who feel they can continue the same abroad, but get disappointed when they realize they cannot get away with the same nonsense they have been able to back in Nigeria.

Honestly, not a lot of Nigerians move back dejected. I know people who have been here for at least a decade -- no valid papers, no criminal record and these people are hardworking and decent beings. We do not need to INSULT our own just so we can score a brownie point for the side we cling to in most of these emotion laden debates some cannot but get involved in on here.

Dont paint the matter, say you know some there that dont have enough money to haul their behinds back here.
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 11:43pm On Oct 25, 2010
hackney:

Relocate to a good job? fair enough but what about the people?
will you change them all?

If it was just about a good job (and a crappy environment) i would have relocated since.
The factors going against relocation are too much.

people over look the little details (like mosquitoes  grin) and when they get back they are faced with the stark reality at every turn.

talkless of the african time nonsense.
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You stingy o. Just small blood wey mosquito will draw and you are complaining, does the mosquitoes use syringe?
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 11:34pm On Oct 25, 2010
Kobojunkie:


Not really. I have no plans to relocate.
Not everyone of us are immigrants here. Many have actually made their homes comfortable in whatever countries they have found themselves.  Well, Are you going to include Job security in the package as well? I say this because it is not simply the case that people do not know how to move back to Nigeria. It is more the case that they consider the risks higher for them down there than wherever it is they currently are. For instance, a man with a good job here, with no papers, would probably want to move back to Nigeria fulltime so he does not have to keep running up and down for papers. Problem however is this same man understands that should he move to Nigeria, there are no guarantees that he can continue the next to comfortable situation he has set up for himself here or can currently afford here. So he is hesitant to move back and probably ends up looking for visa wife or some other crooked way to continue to run function under radar.

Your last sentence goes on to prove that its not as rosy as people think. However, everyone should be happy where the are. Nigerians go abroad with illusions, only to come back dejected.
Family / Re: Haba by invisible2(m): 11:15pm On Oct 25, 2010
Mai Suya:

While you're distributing your 'largesse', remember say AIDS no dey show for face. . . undecided

But e dey show for blood test na?
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 11:08pm On Oct 25, 2010
atampakoeg:

Poster. You are heading for a ban. They will ban you for speaking like this. wink
Abiooo, make I use better lingo jare.
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 11:01pm On Oct 25, 2010
mens dept:


If its American visa that's troubling you then just apply for the Canadian one.

Apparently you havent read that Diaspora persons have contributed over 1 billion dollars to Nigeria's economy/families last year, and more towards health equipment, community development projects, scholarships, and many more.

Meanwhile, in Naija, silly mallams and fake pastors are there collecting their share of the loot misleading Nigerians, and speaking to god in the process. Naija girls are aristoing their youth away and Governors of the SE/SS are collecting extra oil money from NDDC to buy property in Maryland.

So again, mind yoursef

Me look for visa, try another person abeg, in your eyes every Nigerian will gladly beg to be given visa. Wrong! We are okay here so forget any useless enslavement visa.
What does it matter what billions diasporeans bring in when 90% of them are poor and homeless over there? Let them take care of our bros there first before coming back here to strut their stuff around like they are worth gold. Are they crooks there or not? Stick to the topic.
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 10:52pm On Oct 25, 2010
9icest:

Another unemployed useless and brain-dead Nigerian asking me what im going to come do in the hell-hole, voted with the most happiest idiots oops inhabitants in the world.
Well, Nigerians are majorly idle minds, let the arguments begin grin

Calling your home a hell hole. Thats what your compound is, not Nigeria.
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 10:44pm On Oct 25, 2010
mens dept:


Dude, seems like you wrote this out of some quick emotion that monopolized your senses.
How about 85% of Nigerian current leaders (from Exec down to state assembly) are crooks.  Former rulers are even up to 95%. That's the root of the problem. Plus you think the Western World isnt part of the exploitation of Africa?

Many diasporeans come back here and become leaders and continue the crookery! Mbadinuju of Anambra, Chimaroke of Enugu, even Ibb and OBJ were at Sandhurst at a point in their lives. So its the diasporeans that are the real wahal we have.
Politics / Re: 85% Of Diasporean Nigerians Are Crooks by invisible2(m): 10:36pm On Oct 25, 2010
To butress this point, just do a mental check, 10 people near you that are abroad,
How many went there with genuine means?
How many are now doing genuine business there?
How many came back as better people than they were before they traveled?
Travel / Re: Nigerians In The Diaspora Would You Move Back Home ? by invisible2(m): 10:26pm On Oct 25, 2010
kcjazz:

I would, its not everyone that is willing to stay. I have a goal to bring change to my dear country (and it is not political) and after much contemplation, I feel I am ready to make it happen.
But, Why try to relocate them? They left on their own and should arise and go back to their fathers compound when they want to.
Business / Re: Mobil Agrees To Pay Commandclem $236.9 Billion (documents Attached) by invisible2(m): 10:00pm On Oct 25, 2010
Nsiman:

H o u s e !!! Food for thought (fft) "Fools argue issues while intellects discuss facts". S-h-a-l-o-m
Mr 'intellects' its intellectuals, just go back to secondary school before you start giving fraudulent facts laced with jaundiced opinions.
Business / Re: Mobil Agrees To Pay Commandclem $236.9 Billion (documents Attached) by invisible2(m): 9:55pm On Oct 25, 2010
fyneguy:

lol Nsiman,

Do you really think Nex will give you any true feedback?

Trust me, he will harp his failure on EFFC's non-existent petition approval.

If Mobil did not feel obliged to disclaim this document, shouldn't the EFCC or the FG (with a document showing its involvement in the ''scam'') feel obliged to disclaim and even bring the ''scammers'' to book?

Nsiman, I was supposed to bring Mountain Dew soft drink's franchise to Nigeria but missed it as a result of lethargy on my part. If I show you the agreement documents, you would call it a scam. It was so ordinary and lacked the bells and whistles that one would expect of such.

We are waiting on Mobil, EFCC, The Police, The Federal Government to act as expected!

A thief nearly brought mountain dew franchise to naija hahahahaha (now rolling on the ground) hohohohoho.
Just keep waiting for the US govt, United nations and Ahmedinejad to wake you up and tell you that comandclem has scammed you. Keep dreaming.

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