Geist:
I hear am, dem no invite me
I branch , do I still need to ask for my own fruit salad?

Happy birthday in arrears bro syncan

@italo, Hope am getting an invite to yours sha
Whatever it is you're celebrating am happy for ya.

Wedding is in Lagos.

Any member of this thread who really wants to attend, and is sure he/she will be there, I'll give an IV.

Syncan:


It is written. It shall be a success.

Amen. Thank you.

MariaGoretti:

I sure will.... Italo, happy Married Life in Advance o

Thank you. Please pray for us.

By the way who mentioned 'marriage?'

Lol.

There's nothing wrong in celebrating love on Feb 14th, if you use it to enhance virtue and avoid sin.

Syncan:



Good morning sir, its really nice to have you here again. How far na, I hope this is the year...

I dey, brother. It's May 7th.

Syncan:



Good morning sir, its really nice to have you here again. How far na, I hope this is the year...

I day, brother. It's May 7th.

GloryIsaac:


I would if he sticks to what God called him for... not working as a spiritual eye for presido..

Did anyone tell you that Father Mbaka abandoned preaching the gospel?

A Priest is Father to all, including the president. If Father Mbaka can be my Spiritual Director, he can be Buhari's Spiritual Director too.

Good morning, all.

Nice to see you again.

Fr Mbaka has said that he accepts the Church's decision with utmost obedience.

I don't know why people are disturbing themselves.

JackBizzle:



The CAC discrimination was done to Leo Igwe (A popular Nigerian humanist) as well. So there you have it.

Where is the proof that Leo Igwe was discriminated against by the CAC?

JackBizzle:

As for you claiming that I'm implying that Muslims don't discriminate against christians and vice versa, I would just tell you that you are throwing strawmen about. Learn how to argue.



Here is my earlier post on this issue, on this very thread

I never "claimed" such. I only asked a question. You don't know the difference between a claim and a question?

"Are you tired?" is different from "you are tired."

The reason I asked is that I was unsure if that's your view.

You don't know this basic rudiments of English and you want to teach me how to argue? Hahaha.

Anyway, you have no concrete evidence that Atheists are discriminated against more than religious groups...even though that's not the main point of the debate.

JackBizzle:



CAC consitently rejected my friends registration for a company name- all of them either had "humanist" or "atheist" in it.

A government owned financial company rejected an atheist relative- the interview was fine until it came to religion.

Do you have proof of this? No. So it's probably false. And even if it were true, are you implying that Muslims don't do same to Christians...and vice versa? and that Atheist don't discriminate against Christians?

Even here on Seun's nairaland, Christians are heavily discriminated against.

JackBizzle:



Proof https://www.nairaland.com/1410754/faith-doubt-religious-faith-extreme/13#17974598

The post clearly shows where I answered his question earlier.

You're just making false allegations as a distraction from your present discourse.

JackBizzle:



Honestly, I dont have the strength to go back and reading comments from over 2 years ago when we used to debate .

Its unfortunate but we can prove it by you debating on the topic of this thread. You must dodge- it is the nature of catholic apologists...or are you an atheist now?

Summary: allegation without proof.

spiralwedge:
Catholicism keeps its relevance by making itself complex, keep members from reading/meditating on the Bible by themselves and for lazy people who just want to be religiously content.

If you ask me, Catholicism is not Christianity, its a syncretized Roman religion made to like Christianity.

This same Catholicism compiled and canonized the Bible.

Did syncretism create the Christian Bible?

Hahaha!

Image123:


Most of the popular denominations claim to, from RCC to MFM to RCCG to DeeperLife etc and other churches outside Nigeria. they all claim to believe in one Lord, one faith, one baptism. They have it in their Bibles also.

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Yet they don't all have one faith...how can they then be part of the one Church?

Image123:


Faith is in Jesus. Anyone that believes in the Lord Jesus is a member of the Church.
Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Even Jehovahs witnesses who believe in Jesus and say God raised him but say Jesus is Archangel Michael, not God, are part of the Church?

So your "Church" has thousands of faiths instead of "one faith?"

Your Church is not the Church of Jesus and the apostles.

Image123:


Jesus Christ did not found the Roman Catholic Church either. The early church never referred to themselves as the Roman Catholic Church. They even saw others like Paul and James as leaders, they saw all the apostles as leaders. They had no so called pope, knew nothing about the vatican or about praying to, through or for Mary. They had no special regard for Rome or whoever it's Bishop was.

The early Church had a heirarchy...and they had apostolic succession.

Where is that Church and heirarchy today? Where are the apostolic successors of that Church today?

The gates of hell have prevailed against them?

Hahaha!

Image123:

Those are not vague dates and names, that's church history. i don't want to go down details about church history as that will waste my time currently and it is plainly not what you need. Authenticity is not found in dates and names.

You don't want to go down details because you don't have the details so you concoct lies about the origin of the Catholic Church that have no backing anywhere.

If you don't know the origin, the Christian thing to do is shut up, rather than lie...just to make the Catholic Church look like your mushroom protestant shops that sprang up just yesterday.

Image123:

This is so unnecessary. You're one of the top RCC voices on this forum and i expect something better from you instead of all these cheap diversions. Scandals are found also in the Roman Catholic church. From child sex abuse, to the time of the Crusades and all the killings in the name of Christ, to the gay priests and infidelities of monks and nuns. Sin and folly is not only among 'protestants' and non professing christians. You need to know the definition of the universal Body of Christ, it is beyond your myopic view of it. The RCC synods right from the early centuries were to iron out DIFFERENCES in doctrines and beliefs, so don't come here forming saint in unity of belief. Most other denominations also have their internal wranglings and external agreements/doctrines.

We are talking about faith/doctrine, not scandal/sin which even existed among the apostles.

The Church of Jesus Christ has one faith. The Catholic Church says it is the one true Church...and it has one faith/doctrine. Even Atheist know our stand on many issues.

You say the Church includes all your mushroom Churches we see around. Do they have one faith, one baptism? E.g what does your protestants teach about contraception? Hahaha.

And I'm not a top Catholic voice. Don't patronize me. Rather, face the truth.

JackBizzle:

Guy. Go and sleep.
Deceitful people never answer questions directly. It is an arguing style mastered by Anony and Italo.
I asked you a question first. Please, answer it before asking your own. Stop answering questions with questions. STAHP!!!

Which question did I not answer directly?

Now let's see if you can answer my question directly...or if you're the dishonest one.

Trizyd:

I ain't talking about shops......... Though I know where you going... I owe you no answer... Receive___________ In Jesus name

You're talking about shops founded by 'pastorpreneurs' to make money hundreds of years after Jesus founded his own one Church.

Trizyd:
If you are from RCCG , Mountain of Fire , Deepee Life, Christ Embassy and many others ordained by God, You are founded by CHRIST... Christ is the head of the CHURCH....

When did Christ found these shops?

Provide biblical evidence?

Image123:


This is ridiculous, what makes you guys suffer from such a poor complex. You seem to have no idea what the church means. The church is not a particular group or denomination or whatever you think yourself. The Church is the Body of Christ. All members of the body of Christ are the church, not some denomination, whatever year they were founded whether 2000B.C or 2016.

I see. Including those ones among you whose doctrine is to eat snakes and drink petrol (for example) abi...

Your own 'body of Christ' teaches thousands of different, contradictory doctrines abi...

That's the Church Jesus founded abi...the one that teaches you that something is white, then teaches your brother that the same thing is black...abi?

Image123:


The catholic church started about 3 centuries after Jesus' ascension. The early christians did not think of or call themselves catholic church. They were simply disciples, followers of Jesus(Christians), brethren. They did not have pope and they were all called to be saints. The Bishop of rome had no bearing or power until some over 200years after. There was no where in the early century of some idea of sole successor to Saint Peter and other such rubbish the RCC carries on its head like gala. It was in the 3rd century that th Bishop of Rome started to act as a kind of court/arbiter for issues that other Bishops/pastors could not resolve. Of course this was politically motivated with the likes of Constantine and Theodosius being in power and embracing Christianity as a state religion throughout Roman empire. Go and find something better to do with life and with the gospel than all these useless mastubations about being the first or oldest church. Who has that one helped? Every believer wants to see God, go to Heaven, please God and that is more important and critical than history and founder quibblings.

You still can't mention who founded the Catholic Church and in what year it was founded.

You're just trying hard to ascribe vague dates and founders to avoid verification.

And many Nairaland protestants be looking for ways to criticize Catholics while ignoring the human sacrifice in their foundation.

analice107:
Sprffffff. Catholics.

analice107:

Sweetie, everything I do, I see from the scriptures. No idolatry.

And "mercy" is not commanded in your 'scriptures.'

What is commanded is to sacrifice human beings and bury them in your protestant building foundations to make money abi.

Image123:


Your complex is as pitiable as Kukah's. All denominations were founded by men including the Roman Catholic Church. That one is proving senior or older is pitiable because such doesn't really count in the things of the spirit.

Then tell us than that founded the Catholic Church and in what year?

Nameless? Dateless?

Image123:

A denomination is a religious grouping within a faith that has its own system of organization. The Roman Catholic Church is a denomination. Most of these other churches usually claim non-denominational BTW, no be only you get that problem.

There is only one Church founded by Jesus Christ on St. Peter and the other apostles... The Catholic Church.

One Church, one faith, one doctrine.

"Denominations" is a word used by men who decided to imitate God's Church and preach their personal faith and doctrine...to glorify their nonsense.

When did these "denominations" come about? Centuries after Jesus died and resurrected.

Lol.

Onyiido:
I'll never support that, but that should not lead the husband to slapping her in front of any of her relations. There are many other ways of putting the wife to check. Women sef!

If your 18 year-old daughter insults you in front of people, can it possibly lead to you slapping her?

Or do you guarantee you'll use one of the many ways of putting a woman in check?

mineANDurs:


If she provokes u dat much, u divorce her. Moreover I wonder wat a man is still doing with a wife who beats his mum REPEATEDLY cos if its me, she's out at d first incident even if its my mum dat provoked her. Beating my mum makes her an animal and as u can see,i dont waste my time on such.

What I meant by "repeatedly" is 'slapping her multiple times within seconds.' An active situation unfolding before my very eyes.

I should pick the phone, call my lawyer to initiate a divorce...while the above is going on?

If not, what then should I do?

@sapientia, sorry, I know some dudes who have terrible mothers.

I'm not talking of that kind.