ehizario2012:
This is rather interesting, having to obtain a letter from primary employer before engaging in supplementary 20 hours work.

It appears optional not mandatory. Overall, I dont see much between this and the previous guidance on taking up extra work. Its still 20hrs and limited to select roles.

I wonder if UKVI knows how many hours of supplementary work folks do without asking HMRC (with consent) as I've heard about a good number of folks who exceeded the 20hr treshold quite a few times got their ILR smoothly. I can't recollect coming across anyone on a work visa (not students) who didn't get ILR cos they exceeded the limit. Obviously, things might change in future.

Lexusgs430:



Let's see how long after labour wins, before the coup starts within the labour party, then the whole country starts wanting them out too .......🤣😁

Hehe... na normal thing... The talk then may be how labour is unable to run an economy.
Once a 'usual' face is leader of the torries, the populace would pander to them again.

Resurgent2016:


The NHS will always be a bone in the throat of any government.

Currently, £1 of every £10 is spend on the nhs, far more than any sector.

The nhs probable worked well when the country had a young population and a fast growing economy. The population is aging, as a developed country it is unlikely to grow at a very fast pace, cost of medicare has gone up....something has to give.

Either make more services privatized or strip other sectors of funds to prop up the nhs

I see your point and agree with some. There is still good room to go though.
The NHS is fabulous but like any free service with an increasingly entitled populace, the expectation will keep rising exponentially. Its the reason why I'm cautious about the cliché of 'investment'. Not because its not needed but because that money has to come from somewhere which is all the more difficult in a slow growing economy. People talk about how UK productivity lags that of the US without factoring in underlying drivers of that.

For the first time since the end of the world war, there is real danger that a generation of Brits could be worse off than their predecessors. Many times, the government has turned to immigration to spur growth. But it's now at loggerheads with the populace. The next decade would be interesting to live through.

missjekyll:


Long term sick ehn, I had a 60 Yr old lady 3 yrs on the list for a hip replacement. She is in constant pain, Her GP has had to increase her pain relief to Regular morphine. She is now an addict because of the tories.
Tell me again about longterm sick. The 7.6 million on that waitlist are human beings. They can be treated and go back to work but sunackered doesn't want to hear about that.

It's easier to demonise the long-term sick.
I ve applied for Annual leave on July 5th. I ll be up all night at the election result watch party 🥳 🎉. #independenceday

Oh dear! Hopefully Labour would find the money to 'invest' (their new cliché) in the NHS.. Kudos on your campaign endeavours. I would make my mind up with time. Have other things to stress about now.

It's clear Labour would likely have the day. I'd be keen to see how they'd meet peoples expectations. I'd be particularly interested after the first two years as their initial get out of jail card (like PMB) would be '14 years of Tory failure'

missjekyll:
I wonder why despite all his racist ,cruel anti-immigrant policies, he keeps dropping like a lead balloon in the poĺls. Surely if it was a core concern , it would shift the voting intentions? There is no silent majority anywhere. What you see is what you get.

If the NHS goes back to 2010 standards tomorrow, Even i would vote tory.

Rishi was always going to have his work cut out. He was swimming against the tide. He's clutching at anything to save him but truth be said, he has brought some uncomfortable issues to the table e.g a longterm sick, deterrence to small boat crossings e.t.c most of which Labour has given catch phrases and people have glossed over cos 'the tories must leave'

Right from Windrush, to healthcare workers in the 60's/70s, to joining the EU/early 2000 wave, to stopping and restarting PSW visa, to Brexit and recently the care route, the UKs approach has been reliably circular. Get in immigrants when a crunch or low growth hits and then a complete 360 a few years later. It oddly seems to occur roughly every 8-10 years.

ehizario2012:
Does this PM Sunak not have any other campaign strategy apart from immigration? Ineptitude.

Hehe... it's election time and being seen as 'anti-immigrants' is a traditional vote winner. Very few Brits understand the intricacies of immigration. To many I encounter, non british white = taking my job/loweringmy pay.

I'm struggling to decide what party to vote for as like someone stated here, Labour and their 'change' is giving me Buhari 2015 vibes.

The anti-Tory wave has reached a fever high pitch (just like with Brexit) that very few are actually questioning what Labour would do differently on the ground- not just catch phrases.

Zahra29:


Very selective memory that you're conveniently displaying today with your mostly off- tangent post.

Most of what you call fact is simply your subjective perspective, and various people on this thread (not just me, "Suellalet" ) have expressed different views to you over the months.

Lol.

From 'you disparage Brits and Britain all the time' to "subjective perspective'. Its called chasing one's tail.
Next time, if you're making such an emphatic statement, it should be based on facts not emotions.

I'm done with this back and forth.

Zahra29:


Lol, it's "emotions " when I calmly disagree that the scan request was inappropriate, but it's not emotions when you for example have an illogical reaction, crying racism, whenever someone posts an article on a crime that has been committed by a Nigerian(s), even though it's factual.

You call it adhominem, but for me it's just calling out the whiff of hypocrisy in some of your comments. As an example, remember some of our earlier "engagements" lol back in 2022 in the wake of the dependants crackdown, when you declared that Brits are not educated/ interested in university education, were mostly lazy and that the UK needed immigrants more than the immigrants needed the UK?

Hehe... You seem to be conflating alot of people under my monicker.
Go back to replies when there were frequent posts 'educating' us on wrongs done by Nigerians in the UK. I did not cry racism. I illustrated that wrong can be done by all and today we have much less of those.

The level of tertiary education in the UK is today well higher that that of Nigeria. That's a fact. Very few Brits would pay 18k out of pocket for a masters degree. That is another fact. You need to take your grouse up with whoever made the 'lazy' comment as you've got me confused.

Need not want - this is my bread and butter. That was a statement the deputy head of GMC made when I came for my exam. I simply quoted this. At the time I questioned it but several years in, with each passing day I see the very truth in that.
As I have said for the umpteenth time, no immigrant is here on a diversity visa or via a lottery. As far back as the windrush arrivals, every pathway for legal immigration (aside sporadic refugees) were based on need and the British public has very publicly demanded the exit of migrants when need was met even if it came at the risk of economic self harm (cue: Brexit).
The recent post study visa review and even early marketing of it by Suella makes it clear. Every legal pathway is made open because someone convinced the government that Britain would benefit more by letting folks in than keeping them out. Guess what? I have little issue with that, always point the driver out and can give multiple instances where I have witnessed it. I am still struggling to see where 'I regularly disparage the UK'

TheUnburnt:


That means my GP won’t charge me if I ask for an MRI or CT scan? I don’t feel well.

I’m asking because I’ve been paying for my prescription despite the IHS fees I paid before relocating to the uk.

Aside some exempt groups (e.g children, adults on benefits, older folks...) everyone else pays a given sum for their NHS prescription irrespective of the cost of the medication. This was introduced years back to help with funding. If on regular medications, you could look at getting a prepayment certificate which is a periodic sum and could work out cheaper if you certain number of meds frequently. Alternatively, you could ask your practice to make your script run for 2 months

Regarding requesting for investigations, it shouldn't be offered to you based solely on the grounds that you requested. If you have an issue then you could book an appointment with your GP who'd discuss this with you and what means to proceed with investigations (if required). If you're keen on a CT or MRI, its worth mentioning it there and your doctor would be able to say why or why not.

If you feel acutely unwell outside hours (and you think its serious enough it can't wait for your GP), then its 111 or A&E where virtually same process applies but in a tailored version.

TheUnburnt:
Please gurus in the house,
Does IHS cover for MRI and CT scans?

It's an additional tax/levy and covers any service or treatment under the NHS.

It's also used to pay for a salary increase for all government workers.

lavida001:


Absolutely….Most of the corporations in the uk are American owned also Heard that Heathrow is partly owned by the Qataris.

Indians GDP has also surpassed that of England for the first time. They really need to fix up if they want to remain globally relevant.

Well what do I know I am just going to mind my African business.

Abosolute GDP doesn't say much when comparing different sized nations. GDP per capita is a better metric. Better still when adjusted e.g fir PPP. Wouldn't bother much about who owns a heavily regulated local infrastructure which the govt can easily seize on 'national security concerns.

All said the UK would be among the top 5 destinations Nigerians seeking to emigrate all things considered i.e economy, secularism, ease of integration etc. My grouse was the hypocrisy behind the 'seeking utopia' jibe when those who decided on their brain and grit to immigrate here now consider options elsewhere. Loads of local British folks move to other nations in search of greener pastures. Many even seek to retire in Europe or Asia. No one comes to mock their motive.

Viruses:


Thank you for this suggestion. The risks you highlighted are my worries also.

Any opinions on the other two ideas (overpay current mortgage or save for BTL instead)?

Considering a loosely similar approach but gone more with the later.

Ultimately it boils down to what interest rate you have on your mortgage, how long is left on the fixed period and what the numbers from you local btl market (if looking locally) stack up to.
The end numbers from BTL aren't so juicy as many think. Its main advantage is still being the ability to leverage. An index fund either in a pension or ISA may provide good returns with much less hassle than a BTL

Zahra29:


Oh please.

You shared your own view that the request for a CT scan by Lexus for his young son, who had been seen by A&E for a head injury, was basically inappropriate use of NHS resources. You disparage Brits and Britain all the time, so it's a bit rich coming from you lol

And as to the bolded, you are very mistaken if you think I'm trying to convince "folks" to remain in the UK. Of what value is it to me? Do they pay taxes or other benefits to me? Do I run a care agency?🙄 I have stated several times that "bon voyage, all the best" to anyone who bashes the UK and thinks the US or Nigeria or anywhere is better, but as per usual you're very selective in your reading.

For the first part it's worth revisiting the string of conversations with Lexus this time keeping emotions by the door and telling me what part you have an issue with.

For the second paragraph its called adhominem. But out of curiosity, please give me examples of how I 'disparage Brits and Britain all the time'

lavida001:

The GDP of Uk is just a quarter of that of the states. I will pick the states over Uk but na just the gun violence dey discourage me.

The nominal GDP difference is not so remarkable but when broken down and compared in more relatable terms, it becomes stunning. One is a past empire the other is the world economic powerhouse for over a century. The snapshot by an FT article threw this into the limelight again.
The US practically saved the UK from collapse a number of times and Britains foreign policy for sometime has been likened by some to just asking what America wants and doubling down on it e.g with Huawei

The US obsession with guns is troubling but the wider effect is largely exaggerated.

fatima04:


Even this US sef, I dont trust the data joor. I know people say high salary, low taxes etc. but it also depends on the sector and you can be laid off with nothing to fall back on.
Just the other day, i googled and saw that min wage in houston was 7.52 dollar/hr, my friend there said it doesnt matter jare but then whats is the metric for measuring the living standrad if we dont start with min wage. I now get why tipping culture is a big thing, because how person wan take survive on that.

Also same houston or texas generally have cheaper houses but high property tax that run through the tenure of your mortgage

Hehe. You are beginning to sound like a professor who told me not to leave Nigeria because I had a 'permanent and pensionable' civil service job and the grass was not greener in the UK. I told him Sir, we would find out. When I got my first UK job, I was so scared of 'taxes' that I called a colleague and asked hiw far? This thing go balance so? Chap told me oboi forget wetin dem write for motor enter motor. Ultimately, it was not a conversation to be had. Few months later, I looked at my reasoning process and laughed


I dont want to delve into boring details about comparing the UK to the US. A recent FT article did a good job of that. In financial terms, comparing both is like comparing the UK to Lithuania. Folks can succeed anywhere (even in the Sahara) but yes, the grass is some times greener elsewhere.

Zahra29:

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And yes, I'm speaking from experience. I have heard several people discuss on how they have the right to a full MOT on demand because they've paid for the IHS and should use it, and advise how to fake symptoms so they are given the tests. I had to caution that that's not what the NHS is for - it can't cater to everyone who wants a full body check (unless you are in an identified risk group) because they heard so and so dropped dead unexpectedly. That's what private checkups are for.

I wonder how you decide what the NHS is for and not. They paid for it through taxes, IHS and talent and deserve any suitable service on offer.

Even if every immigrant in my county turns up requesting an MOT review (whatever that means), thats at most a few days work. I'd rather spend my afternoon discussing someones concern around prostate cancer e.t.c thank deal with most of the entitlement I see.
Entitlement is calling the ambulance out over 100 times a year aside numerous interventions by other services and turning around to say they are useless and have done nothing. Its 20 yr olds asking for a clinical visit because they can be fussed to get a taxi. It is the person who frequents the pub looking to be registered as 'housebound' so they can get home visits..It is calling 111 by 4am because youve sh*t yourself and want 'these people wipe up folks' to be sent to your house at 4:30am and when asked about your daughter that lives 5 mins away, you reply oh.. I wouldn't want my daughter to do such. It is the fact that admissions into paediatric wars for mental health associated issues now rival acute medical issues. Or 5 people being paid for all day to force feed a child that has refused to eat. I can go on and on. It is not about immigrants who barely know the service. Its interesting the number of immigrants (including those working in the NHS) who have not even registered at a GP several years in.

Lastly, I find it intriguing that while you appear in the forefront of disparaging immigrants, oddly, you are also keen to convince same folks that they wouldn't fare better elsewhere. Its like an abusive person looking to convince their partner not to leave as the next person might be worse. Very interesting.

lavida001:


I have a question.

How do we replicate this Youna brilliant insights in Nigeria.

Its a difficult one but in my experience, we struggle with a number of things. Two main ones being accountability which is evident across board and secondly building resilient systems.

Kano state at the turn of the century eliminated the token (less than 200 I believe) pregnant women pay for maternity services and that alone increased the number of pregnant ladies attending hospitals by several tens of thousands with a good drop in mortality. The cost at the time was stated to be less than what it would have cost to build a bridge. Affordable and qualitative healthcare is one way states should drive things.

Zahra29:


Not really a crisis because at least there are doctors and nurses from many countries queuing up to work in the NHS. Your concern should be directed at the huge care gaps these professionals are leaving behind in their home countries, where even newly trained doctors and nurses are looking to japa at the earliest opportunity.

I agree with the bolded, but the solution is not to privatise the NHS.

It's the recognition of this crises that has brought about the NHS longterm workforce plan which among other aims to double the number of local med grads by 2031. Funding this is another issue.

jedisco:

The NHS is pushing on today cos its absorbing many doctors and nurses from abroad (at a point even exceeding local grads). There are local and international effects of that. Your free healthcare has far reaching consequences.

Exactly part of the reason I wrote the quoted post above. Free healthcare has to be met with the realisation that expectation and 'misuse' would ballon with time. Hence and if there is no equivalent increase in funding and workforce improvement, problems would occur. The inability to envisage and address this is the reason why the NHS is the political talking point today. The altruistic sounding free care has also caused significant drain of human capital from the outer world. Which is also something the govt and WHO recognise and seek to regulate.

Lexusgs430:


Exactly, we are saying the same thing, but in different languages......... I would happily fall within that grey area........ 🤣😂

Hehe

Zahra29:


Any desirable country will attract doctors and nurses from abroad who are seeking a better life, more money and a superior professional experience and opportunities. The NHS is not unique in this.

You seem to be pushing for the privatisation of the NHS which goes against its ethos and founding principles ,so no thanks. Private healthcare is available for those who choose/are able to pay. The NHS should remain "free" , (and I say this as someone who has gold private healthcare from work that also covers my family) but needs to find ways to become more efficient e.g. slimming down their management force, more conservative contracts etc

Attract doctors and nurses to the extent where 52% of new doctors into the system in 2022 were trained abroad and many of the local grads are in turn moving abroad?
Even the NHS leaders agree there is a staffing crises.

jedisco:

I am a proponent of free healthcare at the point of service and appreciate the NHS but there are drawbacks to such a system which can be difficult deal with.

Like I stated in my quoted post above, I appreciate the system of care delivery here but also well aware of its wider impact and reasons why its under pressure. Every healthcare system has its drawbacks and one needs to understand these to make improvements.

Lexusgs430:


This exactly is the reason why some people die needlessly...... This tick box system of clinicians weighing cost vs benefits........

When my family is involved, the tick box system gets burnt....... 🔥🔥🔥🔥😁🤣

Hehe.. its not tickbox but good care. There has to be an accepted and regulated practice. It's the hallmark of any functional healthcare system or else any person/clinician would do as they see fit and justify their actions. It also serves as a standard to both protect and hold people accountable.
Remember I added the statement 'guidelines not law (or tramlines like some put it)'? There are many grey areas where clinical work could deviate but the bulk should be within a recognised framework.

I've worked in a system without a recognised framework where every clinician does whatever they see fit and I can tell you it's far worse with more significantly more needless deaths.

Lexusgs430:


So how would I know if my son sustained internal head injuries, from banging his head (that caused massive injuries to his lips and face) ...... By looking through his eyes or rubbing holy oil on his forehead...... 👀😂


Would I forgive myself if my son suffered from internal bleeding, if I refused to insist on the CT head, due to your position above...... I am asking a honest question.......

Except if it was in the grey area and the clinicians were already considering one, I would be questioning the rationale behind them offering a CT head after having initially declined. If their reason for not offering one in the first place was because you didn't ask, then that'd be worrying.


Just like with many things e.g antibiotics for children, not every child with a fever needs one.

If your question is indeed honest, then the link below forms the framework on which most clinicians in ED would decide if to scan or not (same also radiologists in accepting a scan for the most part). It's a guideline not law but the protocol here tends to be very clear in most EDs to protect both patients and clinicians. Have a look and knowing the full facts, you can decide if it fits or not.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng232/resources/imaging-algorithm-pdf-13061125549&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjPoKnK2YuGAxUcSvEDHb_yAlgQFnoECAUQAg&usg=AOvVaw1lS_Ztm_7qM5guF81C4vmk

Zahra29:


Fair enough....I guess the many thousands of American households that have been bankrupted due to healthcare bills or have lost their top paying jobs and accompanying health cover, were not bullish enough

To each their own. I remain grateful for the safetynet in Europe where I don't have to check my bank balance before going to the hospital, but I also have the option to pay for private medical insurance if I want expedited or special treatment.

Like I said, the fears are almost always well exaggerated for the most part just like the way many Nigerians back home dread the concept of 'tax' or bills (as they call it) without understanding the system abroad. It's part of British culture to whinge and exaggerate certain issues.
Even some EU nations e.g France pay for care. I had seen a French lady in the past who was elated at having free service and told me at this point back home she'd be pulling out her card. Same also, a co-workers pregnant relative had to be taken into ED while travelling in France and was very happy at how quickly it all went.

The NHS is pushing on today cos its absorbing many doctors and nurses from abroad (at a point even exceeding local grads). There are local and international effects of that. Your free healthcare has far reaching consequences.

Lexusgs430:


Unfortunately, if that was my son..... I would be an advocate for him in that A&E department, I would not just sit like a statue........

I would give you a personal experience....... My son had a moment of syncope at school(banged his head), his grammar school phoned me to come pick him up.... I demanded they called an ambulance, to take my son to an A&E department (that i would meet them at the local hospital).......

After meeting my son at the A&E department, after all triage and bloods taken, no immediate alarms got flagged....... My son was going to be discharged, I asked them what the procedure was on incidents involving head hitting the floor.... I was told all sorts of medical magical terms (I listened very patiently)........

I insisted my son had a CT scan of his head, to rule out any bleeding(objections were raised)........ Guess what ..... My son had the CT head .......

I also requested a 24 hour tape........ 🤣😂

My point is, don't just sit and wait, demand what you want.........

Hehe.. true that sometimes pushing sensibly and complaints can get folks on their feet. However, your post also highlights a main reason why we have long waits. People making unlimited demands off a 'free' service with a limited purse.

Offering investigations because a patient wants it is hardly the hallmark of a good health system. Same issue the US grapples with only that in their case, more scans = more money.

Inappropriate investigations also has it's downsides. Yes, we hear of sad stories or those who pushed and 'proved the doctors wrong' but there is a longer list of harms done by not justifying investigations within the norms of current practice.

Things like head injury have clear guidance on who to scan. There could be grey areas but subjecting every child who bangs the head to a head scan is poor care.

Zahra29:


Funny that, there are numerous Reddit threads of Americans who have moved to Europe to access the cheaper health care, including medication.

It goes both ways and largely depend on the side of the divide they are on.

Reddit is also littered with Tech heads in the UK looking to jump ship and 3x their take home or American companies paying their UK employees less than half of what the pay for similar roles in the US. Also many UK medical students writing American licensing exams and jumping ship or actively planning towards CAN/AUS. Even when comparing attainment of immigrants, the US leads for a reason.

Many Americans in the UK get flustered by the relatively poor pay, high tax and long wait times for healthcare we have become accustomed to.
The social safetynet in the EU/UK is brilliant but for many hardly trumps the capitalist bull the US has become.

Jamesclooney:


Not true sir. I have experienced NHS 15yrs ago, it wasn’t like this, reason for the proliferation of private insurance etc. And reason the govt of the day is getting hammered. But if they read all your comments, they would be very happy with the NHS and decide to do nothing aka “the plan is working”. Call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool.

I see your point.
Fact is that any free service left long enough would be abused. Couple that with the rising entitlement and dwindling fortunes of the UK and you get the reason the NHS is where it is.

The NHS as currently structured can deal with most health concerns. What it'd struggle to deal with is the expectation.

Take 111/GP and ED attendances for instance, if a £10 token was billed on each episode of care, I can assure you the need coming through would fall by a chunk. The issue becomes how to protect vulnerable groups who without causing a situation similar to the 'sick note culture'.

I am a proponent of free healthcare at the point of service and appreciate the NHS but there are drawbacks to such a system which can be difficult deal with.

Mamatukwas:


I’ve experienced both. Healthcare in the US is elite and premium but the billing is also premium. Pray that whatever you do, you never fall seriously ill in the US or require intensive care without insurance. Your own is all over.

The fear about the American healthcare system is largely exaggerated. While some nations have a better system, Americans are not dropping dead in the street.

We're talking about a nation that has been at the fore of technological development financial conquest over the last 50 years. Our free Healthcare is paid for via higher taxes + NI.

Yes, many would need insurance in the US but the excess is capped and there are many groups which are exempt.Many middle income and high wage earners would see their take home double for an equivalent role in the US while paying less tax. Housing is relatively cheaper. Many jobs come with health insurance and even if one has to pay out of pocket for a family insurance policy, it manytimes would work out much cheaper than the higher tax paid here. Also, because their ervices are paid for and system flush with funds, services are prompt and manytimes push the boundaries of knowledge.
Europe/UK OTOH is a much better deal for lower income earners as there is a robust safety net.

Both systems have their pros and cons. Reason why many Brits jump at the opportunity of heading to the US. The Australian system seems to be a hybrid between both.

BondRiv:
A servant is a servant. Instead of Fubara to stick to the master who brought him into office, he is now serving a new master, an expired politician called Odili. He will always be a boy. Incompetent thing.

You have a slavish mentality

hyzich:
Elders Good Morning,

Please I need your candid advice, I recently got a permanent offer which is closer to where I live and pays more than my former role but the snag here is that my wife is heavily pregnant and I forgot to discuss this during the interview. The new coy wants me to resume by 27th of this month because they are aware that I’m on a FTC in my current role which is difficult for me because my wife has less than 3 weeks to EDD. Please how can I share this with them than won’t affect my current offer.

2nd Plan- I also intend to get someone to come in and assist my wife on days I will work on site so that I won’t need to take any excuse. I am really confused as I do not know how best to address this.

Regards

Strata1716:
Hello everyone
At this point I’m beginning to think I am cursed or something as I am so confused and saddened.

I currently work as a band 5 in the NHS and after 4 months of hard work and rejections looking for a sponsored role, I got a band 7 offer project manager role. I noticed my contract said fixed so I messaged the HR asking why my contract isn’t permanent. I assumed I would be sponsored but I never brought this up with anyone. I got this response “
We can only offer you a fixed-term contract as you have an expiry date on your visa, once your visa expires you will need to give HR your new visa information and your contract will be renewed to the next expiry date on your visa, this will happen until you have permanent right to work in the UK”.

I have not asked them anything about sponsorship but the response has completely shattered me as I would be moving to another town for this role, my current job contract expires in August and I’ve been told renewal is possible.

I am confused on the next step of action to take, do I try to ask for sponsorship and risk the offer being withdrawn or do I accept the fixed term and risk not giving me myself enough time to look for a sponsored role. My visa expires next year November .

I really need help so I don’t make the wrong choice.

Jokes apart and not to sound awkward, employers are not God. These could be easily sorted by a quick email to your HR. It's either they say yes (likely) or no. If they say no, then one can start strategising.
Same also with the NHS role. A simple email to them would suffice. Either they provide you sponsorship or not. If they decline now, you could ask if they could comit to do that on your current visa expiration. If they still decline, it's up to you to decide if the experience and potential of leveraging on that is worth it.
At the very least, dont be too timid to ask

Zahra29:
Breaking news: British Ministry of Defence has been hacked by the Chinese state.

What an outrageous lie from the UK. As if China would ever do such a thing... 👀

The stated country wasn't mentioned. Quite reasonably, it wasn't China. On the back of recent events, if it was China, you'd expect the government and media to go into a frenzy. The fact that the name of the culprit nation was witheld makes it very likely a 'friendly' and more powerful state - wouldn't surprise me the U.S and the government only stating this cos they're duty bound or they want to front-run an embarrassing leak to the press.

As one British commentary put it, international espionage is not new and what China is accused of doing is expected or the norm among powerful states. Not too long ago, it came to light the U.S had long tapped the personal phone of the German chancellor (a fellow NATO nation), U.S agencies had long prevented messaging platforms from instituting encryption until they were guaranteed a back door. They have long done the illegal of tapping their citizens communication how much more the rest of the world.
The US and UK were the first to clearly warn Ukraine that a Russian incursion was set despite Ukraine and Russia denying such. I don’t want to believe they got this information by asking Russia. Same double standard again crops up- what western nations have done for eons becomes problematic when a non-western nation dares it.

matrixmuzi:


Bunch of half apes . black man is cursed . Giant of Africa my ass.

You have low self confidence and an inferiority complex

@mods @seun such disgusting statements should be removed and the poster banned. Report button not working.

ChenHao23:

A very wrong and naive submission by the OP.
Read my submission above.
I'm here clear you if you have any doubt.
Thanks

Crack on...