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Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 7:11pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:


Simple ! You are no longer bound by those laws. Paul said in eph 2 :11-22 tell us that the gentile that is you and me were afar away from God. What separated us from the Jew was the ordinances given to the Israelites. This text calls it the wall of partition, the source of enmity between us( there is no difference bTW Jews and gentile sake for the fact that the Jews kept the law and the gentiles didn't.) The text tells us that Jesus In order to make peace, abolished these laws. Gal 3: 21-25 tells us that the laws were there as a temporary guide before the coming of Christ. Now that Christ is here we are no longer under those laws. Bros please take your time and read all the verses earlier posted.

Did i talk about being bound by law? I think my message is simple enough if yiu can be patient to read and understand. Are you aware that Paul quoted the law. Can explain why Paul would be making references to old testament in hiS epistiles . Why ?
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 6:49pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:

There is no backing for this from the scripture. Its all from your head I suppose. Stoning, animal sacrifices, woman unclean during mestruation,forbidding food, levitical priesthood are also spiritual things.

If you have patiently read my earlier post . I explained that what Jesus had fulfilled are longer applicable. Such as animal sacrifices which you brought up. Jesus had becone the ultimate sin sacrifice. But that doesn't take away the principle of sacrifice. We still make sacrifice and offrings but certainly not sin offering. I also asked a question.
The law says to honor father and mother. Is the principle of honoring parents applicable to parents?


The scripture is clear we are no longer under the law gal 3:21-25, gal 5: 1-4 etc doing these things for cultural reasons no wahala, but saying thus said they lord and doing it as a command which has its own punishment is what is totally wrong...
I cannot start quoting again read the verses the op has quoted.

The bible is not adverse to the law. The law is the law of God. What is wrong is to seek to be justified by them. The old testament contains God's principles . That's why we shouldn't commit murder. Every condensation of the work of the law if you check ,it always has to do with justification or being me right by thm

Romans 7:12
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Gal 5:4 — Ga

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 4:03pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:

Exactly what she is saying.. She is not saying don't pay tithes.she said, which the bible also says if you want to keep one part of the law, then you are obligated to keep all.

But for Christians, we do not keep the law. Not in the days of the apostles and not today!!

And Jesus is right the Pharisees ought to tithe.

Well the point I'm trying to make is that the fact something is practiced in the Old Testament doesn't make it wrong. There are things that are no longer obtainable but there are things that are applicable both in the old and in the new . Such as tithes , offering, prayers, worship , alms giving . Keeping away from idol, Honoring father and mother etc .

Well I agree to one thing . Christians are not under the law. And we can't be justified by deeds of the law. But that doesn't negate certain kingdom principles of the Old Testament. We do them because they are spiritual principles not because it was commanded
Religion / Re: Osun State As A Whole by Joagbaje(m): 3:28pm On Dec 16, 2016
HQuadreal:

English was introduced to Osun state -
land of the great lamp - in 1998.

May I ask what you mean by the above . What language were they using officially before
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 3:16pm On Dec 16, 2016
xolomonstrides:
read the verses she quoted. Then speak from there.
Fasting , was restated with directions ( don't look sad and dirty because you are fasting, clean up and shine up)
Prayer was restated with direction( avoid vain repetition, pray through Jesus the Christ, pray not for show, make it between you and your God)
Worship, was restated with direction ( jesus the high priest, decently and in order, in spirit and in truth, apostolic examples)

They all had directions right from the Old Testament times .

But tithing............. Nothing ( our giving today is only free will giving as stated in 2cor. 9:7, 1cor 16:1-2) no compulsion... The difference is that offering is free will while tithe is compulsory. It is just like tax if you evade you would be punished.

Jesus also endorsed tithing .

Luke 11:42 (NLT)
42 “What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

TITHE's and offerings are eternal principles . They pre existed the law.
Religion / Re: How Pastors Are Using Our Toddlers For Fake Miracles by Joagbaje(m): 6:15am On Dec 16, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
Grammy is what is given to musicians. If the girl was truly acting, then she deserves to have the Oscar's awards named after her.

These satanists in atheist's clothing have no way they can discredit the video. All they can do is rant whilst thinking everyone else is as foolish as they are.

Thanks , correction taken
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 6:09am On Dec 16, 2016
simplex2:


You conveniently skipped to mention to her that you are a pastor with Christ embassy. This simple revelation would have ended this long argument b'cos she would have long realized you live on people's tithe and that you will never see reason to stop.

You're wrong . I went to school ,I have my business . I'm nigeria first drone pilot . And an artist . I make money I pay my tithe , I live by my giving . So don't bring that manipulation here. Focus on the Bible to defend your stand and if you're out of option kindly exit

Your christ never collected tithe, he was your high priest, greater than Melchizedek. Do you people read Hebrews at all? Do you preach that chapter to your congregation at all?

And What does Hebrew say .?

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Religion / Re: How Pastors Are Using Our Toddlers For Fake Miracles by Joagbaje(m): 9:54pm On Dec 15, 2016
Scholar8200:
op, first prove that that miracle was fake.

Besides, I noticed you said pastors. well, kindly name the one in the video and at least 5 others that have so used toddlers highlighting proofs that were affirmed by others that the miracles by these, were fake.

Very intelligent question. A crying toddler of that age couldn't have been such a good actor. If the baby was acting ,then she deserves an oscar award

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Religion / Re: How Pastors Are Using Our Toddlers For Fake Miracles by Joagbaje(m): 9:48pm On Dec 15, 2016
This is a real miracle . Anyone with common sense should know this .

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Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 9:41pm On Dec 15, 2016
tessywithsexy:
SO IF U SAID IS THAT IT NOT BECAUSE THE LAW SAY SO, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR PASTOR READ THIS PART OF THE SCRIPTURE malachi 3:9KJV:Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation, DO U CLOSE YOUR EARS OR LEAVE THE CHURCH, OR ACCEPT THE CURSE INTO YOUR LIFE. BUT ALSO REMEMBER.

I'm a tither

Galatians 3:13KJV:Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: Please I need your response to this

You need to respond to my questions first.
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 6:04am On Dec 15, 2016
Topgainer:

Clever but still does not justify making Tithe a law for Christians.

There's no law for Christians

Honour of father and mother comes natural as the spirit of life enables one and directs,

Same goes for tithes and offerings ,first fruits etc. They were all born by revelation . It's not because the law say so but because they are spiritual principles discovered by revelations .

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Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 4:28pm On Dec 14, 2016
tessywithsexy:



so if when you honour your father and mother, and yet don't pay tithe, and yet you bear false witnes,, you covert your neighbor's property, you don',, t keep the Sabbath day. So just because you obey the law of obeying ur parents and yet u disobey in the other law will not make get the blessings .not it either you obey all the laws or u obey none of the laws. Obeying your parents ordinary is instinctive package that comes with be born again the spirit of God will just direct you on how to live your life, not some commandments

You didn't answer the question.
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 7:19pm On Dec 12, 2016
tessywithsexy:
OK so the death of Christ did not fulfill the law of tithing, is that what you mean. Please tithing is a law. And thus to obey that law u must obey all the law, KJV Gal 3:10 :For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

So will you dishonour your parents because we are u der grace

Ok what explanation can you give to the scripture below.

Ephesians 6:2
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promisewink

Exodus 20:12
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 10:53am On Dec 12, 2016
tessywithsexy:
you just said that when you we still have to obey the law of tithing ,to get the blessings from God, then what about the law of circumcision, and Sabbath

I didn't say so. I would have appreciated if you quote me verbatim. Or just paste my quote without paraphrasing
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 10:51am On Dec 12, 2016
tessywithsexy:
note if tithe existed before the law, also note that circumcision existed before the law too. So why don't we still practice that law today,

It was a shadow , and Christ has fulfilled that part in us . We are circumcised now by faith .

why is only tithing

Not only tithing , we give offerings also. Do you believe in giving offering to God.
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 1:15pm On Dec 11, 2016
tessywithsexy:
please tell me with Bible reference the one that is applicable and not applicable , please note that fasting praying and worship offering are all in the new testament. But note that we are not expected to obey the ceremonial laws of fasting, praying, worship, circumcision, offerings and tithing to be saved as u stated, see Gal 5:1-5, please is you u that choose the one that is applicable and not applicable, or may ur pastor. Maybe ur Bishop. Please let me know what form the basis of the choosing the old testament applicable law. and ur pastor choose tithe and left circumcision of the flesh, or even stoning of those caught in fornication or adultery

Theres no fulfilment for tithes . Besides .it's a principle which existed before the law

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Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 1:12pm On Dec 11, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
How did you arrive at this?

Christ is the fulfilment
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 1:11pm On Dec 11, 2016
tessywithsexy:
please tell me with Bible reference the one that is applicable and not applicable , please note that fasting praying and worship offering are all in the new testament. But note that we are not expected to obey the ceremonial laws of fasting, praying, worship, circumcision, offerings and tithing to be saved as u stated,

Where did i say that pls? That we are obeying the law to be saved .
Religion / Re: Video Of Collapsed Reigners Bible Church Building In Uyo (Graphic Content) by Joagbaje(m): 12:59pm On Dec 11, 2016
seunmsg:
Where was the holy spirit when this evil was haUppening to people who gathered in a church to worship God? Why did the holy spirit refuse to save all these children of God? Sigh! embarassed cry

The church is supposed to be a sacred place of refuge, a place where the powerful and omnipotent spirit of God dwells. So, when horrible things like this keep happening in the presence of God, where then will the children of God run to to seek refuge?

Luk 13:3 — Luk 13:5
I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
Religion / Re: My Take On Tithing by Joagbaje(m): 7:40pm On Dec 10, 2016
tessywithsexy:
Good morning all,
Here is my take on tithing the Holy Spirit will let us know when we violate the inward law. Tithing, circumcision, ceremonial washing, Saturday worship, holy days, dietary laws, Temple worship, stoning, all are part of the Old Testament law. Do them all or NONE AT ALL. Gal 5:1-3

I don't buy your logic . There's principles in the law and old testaments that are still applicable in the new because they are kingdom principles. That's why you can't do away with fasting ,praying,worship ,offerings and tithing. Alms giving and honour for father and mother. The things that are longer aplicable are things that Christ fulfilled
Religion / Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Joagbaje(m): 4:51pm On Dec 10, 2016
MrPresident1:
From the two verses above (in the OP) and linked with Daniel 2:44 which tell us that God will set up His kingdom in the days of the ruling kings of Iron and Clay,

Daniel 2:44
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.


The days of these kings has been computed to end on the 20th of January 2017. It means that the kingdom of God will be before this date.
I really would like to know how you came about your computation and calculation . From my understanding
Theres no date set for these prophecies . It's ripple effect. Our role has a lot to do with his coming now or later. Heis coming for a mature church . The growth and quick maturity of Christ body will bring about the rapture. Denominations walls will be broken. There will be unity of faith .

Ephesians 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Religion / Re: I Don't Think We Christians Really Study Our Bibles by Joagbaje(m): 7:31am On Dec 10, 2016
Kalatium:

Where in the bible does it say the Holy spirit will help you understand the bible.

As for 1 Timothy 3:16—it is referring to the old testament(Hebrew bible) not the new testament (Paul never knew that one day we will read his letters as scriptures.

Some of the apostolic writings were already circulating as scriptures . They read them in churches and copies were made for circulation. Peter oviciously read some Pauline epistles.

2 Peter 3:16
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

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Religion / Re: Do You Want To Be A Prophet? See This Hilarious Banner (pics) by Joagbaje(m): 9:56am On Dec 08, 2016
Tolexander:
Ok!
Prophet do not undergo the training but are called by God and trained in the path of holiness.

prophets do undergo trainings . Remember they had a school of prophets in the bible days. They even once had the hostel over crowded and told elisha about expansion of the facility,
Religion / Re: Rev Chris Oyakhilome Scheduled To Speak At Conference In The US In January 2017 by Joagbaje(m): 10:22pm On Nov 15, 2016
Oga Donnie . Can you reach me by phone? Your line which I have seem not working again
Religion / Re: 2-Year-Old Girl 'Ministers' At Christ Embassy Church (video) by Joagbaje(m): 7:55pm On Nov 04, 2016
When observant parents began to see the the hand of God on their child early and they encourage it. It's commendable

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Religion / Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by Joagbaje(m): 12:58pm On Oct 28, 2016
brocab:
Are you lying to us? Are you a pastor?

Kindly explain the lie.
Money was used in the bible days as tithes and offerings
Religion / Re: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by Joagbaje(m): 12:56pm On Oct 28, 2016
brocab:
The bible says bring all your tithes into the store house, the bible didn't say bring all your tithes into the church.

Where is the store house
Religion / Re: Why Should church Be Celebrating Independence? by Joagbaje(m): 12:19am On Oct 26, 2016
@op before we make condemnation we need to ask questions first. If memory serve me right . I think the first church to start the independence movement is Cec. "Reachout nigeria campaign . The idea is to stir up nation building consciousness . With the ideology that . Americans developed America, Japanese developed Japan Indians developed India . Americans won't come and develop Nigeria . Nigeria can only be built by Nigerians . So using the marking of Nigerian Independence Day to celebrate our possibilities. So what is being celebrated is the possibilities of a desired future . Everyone contributing their part in nation building by exhibiting patriotism .
Religion / Re: Inside The Healing School Of Christ Embassy by Joagbaje(m): 5:27pm On Oct 02, 2016
gunnergetu:
I still dont get this 'Healing school' thing.Why would one need to go to a healing school to get healing? Is it really scriptural?Is it in the bible?I grew up reading that 'only say the word and i shall be healed'.I would appreciate honest answers to this.


What do you do in a school? Teaching and learning. What's the teaching about ? faith. If you have faith you can recieve
Religion / Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Joagbaje(m): 5:52am On Sep 10, 2016
An2elect2:
You and Joagbaje have no excuse anymore. This thread and many others that have been opened for your sake would stand as witness against you on that day if you do not repent of your sin.

What a terrible thing it is, to fall into the hands of the Almighty.

Supposing you're wrong

, like you, donnie and joagbaje and the multitudes of zombies are doing,

Tani zombi re? If you want to talk to or ask question just ask Na .

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Religion / Re: Is It Impossible For God To Grow Back Amputated Limbs? by Joagbaje(m): 5:46am On Sep 10, 2016
EyeHateGod:
I remember joagbaje saying thatamputees dont need healing because they are not necessarily sick.....see how some peeps are dishonest?

What amputees need is a creative miracle . Not healing .

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