When i was reading OP post i was laughing. Atheist don't understand spiritual things. You can't apply the physical with the spiritual and the spiritual governs the physical. Sooooo they will never understand.
[quote author=LordReed post=90687989]LoL! So if they ate from neither tree were humans going to live forever?
They have to eat from the two trees at appointed time . they were made for man.
[quote]Secondly your spiritual death gymnastic doesn't work because god said "that day". Genesis describes day as "the evening and the morning". Several evenings and mornings occurred after the eating of the fruit before they died so yeah god deceived them.
They died that day according to the word of God. The death was spiritual not bodily. death is separation. man God separated ftom God. this was the first death. The second death is eternal separation.
LordReed: Right from Genesis all the way to Revelation the bible god seems to have no qualms with deception, using it himself on occasion.
Wrong
Start with him telling Adam and Eve that they will die the day they eat a certain fruit, which of course didn't happen.
You’re wrong . They died that day . It was a spiritual death . From that day . All men that comes to the world are born dead spiritually brcause they sinned in Adam . Their inner man died to God
Romans 5:12 (KJV) . . . and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Thats why Jesus came so that life can come to the human spirit
U just spoiled your tori by saying Drs told him the procedure was unnecessary that a better surgeon has done it Which Dr will open mouth to say this in medical world? Rather, they will conduct more tests, tel you to go back home, report for observations few more times before they will write it off as medical history.
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You now know more than Doctors . They checked him and said the hole was gone . Remember this is a multi billionaire. The owner of econet. He testified with his own mouth I still have the audio in my iPad
I love what he said about people making personal researches and the importance of creating an educated society that gives room for people to source for knowledge for themselves.
when he took the three with him to the mountain where he got transfigured, was he trying to say the other 8 were 'outsiders'?
ubenedictus, donnie and joagbaje, what do you all think?
They would all have been transformed if not for the fact that they were sleeping instead of praying along . But he carried them to pray with him but it was only jesus who was praying
Luke 9:32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
By the way my answer was not meant for you but others who saw your question. Because it's not allowed for me to try expound spiritual truth to non christian.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Hence the frustration of the Holy Spirit because despite being on Earth, He lacks the Word of God to enable Him serve the purpose for which He came to the Earth, which was to bear witness unto that Word.
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I dont understand this revelation of the holy spirit lacking word. I thought hes the revelatory of the word
Jn 16:12 — Jn 16:13 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
More gossip .. retire from this old business. Let's preach the gospel and leave satan to do his job as accuser. There are countless posts against every minister and your church is not spared.
I am walking in love does not mean you cover evil that can destroy the destiny of many. If Pastor Chris is accused of sexual sin, it should be proven and not just mere saying. Those he has slept with should do a video like Bisola did. Or those who caught them should come out openly. Otherwise, it is all allegations that is not proven.
Nice one. This is the kind of question our holy brothers should have been asking instead of helping the devil to spread unfounded stories
MuttleyLaff: "16And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seethHim not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." - John 14:16-17
No one is getting personal with you, that's your imagination playing up tricks with you. It seems there something in what I presented, biblically above and typed about in the two quotes above, that you disagree with or dont accept, hmm? 1/ Are disagreeing with me that everyone receives the same gift of the Holy Spirit in the same measure and for the same purpose, hmm? 2/ Are you disagreeing, that it is possible to have the gift of the Holy Spirit, as in the indwelling of the Holy Spirit yet not be infilled with the Holy Spirit. I mean, not filled with the Holy Spirit, in the sense that because, the Holy Spirit, will only fill into what we surrender to Him or what we yield over to Him to fill into. Sometimes, the Holy Spirit is like an oversize cover throw, it essentially, can be bigger than our actual size, and so means, we need to buff up, as in, need to become more mature, to become stronger and more muscular, in order for the Holy Spirit to close-fittingly size us
It is exactly, what Paul, with 1 Corinthians 3:1 above is saying, some things he cant discuss with them because they are spiritual immature, spiritually weak and so need some growing up spritually to do.
"4There are different kinds of spiritual gifts, but the same Spirit is the source of them all. 5There are different kinds of service, but we serve the same Lord. 6God works in different ways, but it is the same God who does the work in all of us. 7A spiritual gift is given to each of us so we can help each other. 8To one person the Spirit gives the ability to give wise adviceb; to another the same Spirit gives a message of special knowledge. 9The same Spirit gives great faith to another, and to someone else the one Spirit gives the gift of healing. 10He gives one person the power to perform miracles, and another the ability to prophesy. He gives someone else the ability to discern whether a message is from the Spirit of God or from another spirit. Still another person is given the ability to speak in unknown languages, while another is given the ability to interpret what is being said. 11It is the one and only Spirit who distributes all these gifts. He alone decides which gift each person should have." - 1 Corinthians 12:4-11
The gift of the Holy Spirit is received first before the gifts of the Holy Spirit is added.
The body is worldly conscious and relates to the environment. The soul is self conscious and relates to self & others and the spirit is God conscious and relates to God. If one is worldly conscious and relates to the environment, relates to self & others to the exclusion of God, and is not God conscious nor relates to God, then such automatically cannot receive the Holy Spirit and not even the gifts of the Holy Spirit or the manifestation of the Holy Spirit
Spiritual gifts, rightly speaking, truly and really are manifestation of the Holy Spirit. As 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 above confirms, they are differing and according to the grace that is individually given to us. As I've previously said, the gift of the Holy Spirit is received first before the gifts of the Holy Spirit or spiritual gifts follows.
It's really sad that these followers of men, such as donnie, maestro21, petra1, Joagbaje et al, have been totally bewitched, only Jesus can deliver them.
Kini mo se fun e t'o n bu mi bayii . Why call me bewitched