Funaki:

So if John had written Revelations today, he would've seen Drones and nuclear weapons instead of chariots and horses? If that's true, why do you think the vision he saw 2000 years ago is still relevant today?



and how does a beast with four faces or locusts relate to helicopter and aeroplane?

johnydon22:


The truth is Gods are always what humans say they are and every human society differs in technology and value expectations.

Of course the Gods must have been using paper.
One apologetic on this thread as usual wanted to re-imagine it this time to mean e-book therefore a computer necessary.

-The writer of the revelation also ate one scroll an angel gave him, you just can't eat an e-book believe me i have tried..lol.

- he is now re-assuming it from the technological stand point of his time, soon it will still change. future technology and information technology will be more advanced and better than ours.
then it will have to be reinterpreted again.

Humans say what and how the Gods behave which always reflects their own society and views.

-in the bible heaven was still using horses, swords and chariots
this was because it was written in the era this technology ruled, it was fabricated by a mind only familiar with those crude techs.

if anyone comes out now and say the heavens are now using cars, planes and guns then sadly the heavens are dependent on man to develop and shows man and the gods are always developing together.

man is always modifying his Gods to suit his time...

Xenophanes (6th century BCE) famously
said that if cows and horses had hands, "then horses would draw the forms of
gods like horses, and cows like cows".

OtemAtum:
I just stumbled upon a thread WHERE a Christian Luvmijeje said that I should guard myself, because something would happen before the end of April. She said it on April 13 and around that time till now, I haven't encountered anything different than what I have been encountering. I didn't even remember to guard myself around those period of time. Now I want Luvmijeje to tell me what she meant by that sentence back then, perhaps something actually happened which I didn't sense, or maybe she can fix another month and come out clear this time around. See screenshot below.
Link: https://www.nairaland.com/3731253/why-many-born-christian-homes/7#55549195

Cc: Realmindz, Hahn, Felixomor, Muafrika2, Joagbaje, Jacksonville, HopefulLandlord, Annyplenty, Geoworldedu, Wilgrea7, TobiAntiYHWH, Dazzlingd, kingebukasblog, Ranchoddas, Dalaman, Akintom, Hardmirror, Availableisme(Samuel Ekwueme the 419), Johnydon22, Sonofluc1fer.

NPComplete:


JoAgbaje how far na? So u want to continue perpetuating this your foolish lie abi? And u had to create a new moniker to lend it weight. This dubious man still never change all these years.

MiddleDimension:
are you interested in giving me Jesus? why should i become a christian?

theenchanter:
LMAO..... phone in a dead man's jacket?

ORISHIRISHI.

MiddleDimension:


and this is where You Christians put yourselves in trouble and confusion! ''anything not Christian is evil...''! no wonder you burned people at the stake.

MiddleDimension:


who are those who ''see'' into it by demonic power? and like i have been told, you only need to take a comfortable position and become really calm and quiet and then you'll go... now what's demonic about this. it sounds more like a natural process. ''Be still and know...'' (i think you can figure out where that is from)

@ubenedictus do you agree with joagbaje's submission?

CHARLOE:

Bros dey lie small small na! Tell this kind of script to d gullible sheeple in ur church, d folks here are too awake 4 this kind of poorly written script. U tell lie lie stories in d name of 'propagating d gospel', more like deepening ur pocket, n backup ur lies with these scriptures: "For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?" (Rom. 3.7)
"Though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved. But be it so: ... nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile." (2 Cor. 12.15-16).

MiddleDimension:
awakening the THIRD EYE? is this Christian? @Ubenedictus @donnie @joagbaje

pls don't pass this by. I just want to know what you think about this.

MiddleDimension:


in 1905, Einstein explained to us that a gravitational wave does exist. and it was not up to 4years ago that it was finally discovered! the real people who are IN THIS WORLD BUT NOT OF THIS WORLD, ARE SCIENTISTS, AND MAYBE MYSTICS, LIKE THE ROSICRICIANS AND THE FREEMASONS ET AL, ALL OF WHOM ARE SAID TO BE HELL BOUND BY BORN-AGAINS.

@donnie @joagbaje @ubenedictus @chukwudi

MiddleDimension:


in 1905, Einstein explained to us that a gravitational wave does exist. and it was not up to 4years ago that it was finally discovered! the real people who are IN THIS WORLD BUT NOT OF THIS WORLD, ARE SCIENTISTS, AND MAYBE MYSTICS, LIKE THE ROSICRICIANS AND THE FREEMASONS ET AL, ALL OF WHOM ARE SAID TO BE HELL BOUND BY BORN-AGAINS.

@donnie @joagbaje @ubenedictus @chukwudi

MiddleDimension:


ogah, you can be a christian and still admit it that that was a huge blunder on the part of paul and your revered 'holy book'.

that passage is clear enough.

he said ''let your wpmen keep quiet in church...''
he then went on ahead to mention the reason they should not speak. ''...FOR IT IS NOT PERMITTED UNTO THEM TO SPEAK''. he did not say ''because they are disturbing

infact, it is very mysogynistic of you to say what you have said!

to hold your veiw means to believe that women are the only ones capable of disturbing in the church or that they were the only ones disturbing in the church. why single out women?

jesusjnr:
From your comment, I wouldn't want to relate with you in any way if I were a woman.

Imagine justifying this extent of injustice and insult meted out to womanhood as a whole.

Wow!

jesusjnr:
MISTAKE NO. 1

---

"Let your women
keep silence in the
churches: for it is not
permitted unto them
to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience,
as also saith the law. 1Corin 14:34.(KJV). This writing of his is one of the most glaring mistakes that he made that even the staunchest of his fans would agree that this saying was never inspired by the Spirit Of God, but purely a product of his flesh, as this is arguably one of the most sexist saying that one could ever come across in the whole of the Bible. For it's not that she shouldn't be allowed to lead a church, for that'd be even less severe even though yet erroneous, but this is that she shouldn't even speak in the church.

TATIME:
I don't know how much you desire to hear the TRUTH,but i'll just present it and allow you to conclude.

Well GREATER WORKS is not only miracles,signs and wonders,considering the account at John chapter 4.

Jesus only preached to the woman at the well who in turn ran and reported how Jesus told her all her secrets,but if you carefully consider what happened next Jesus ONLY preached and taught those Samaritans,they agreed that truly Jesus is the saviour of the world! John 4:39-42

So my friend it's GREAT WORKS going uninvited to people's homes with the intention to preach and teach those who don't even feel the need for such!

You said people are performing miracles but the fact shows that it's not all those taken to this so called men of God that are cured,whereas during Jesus' healing ALL THOSE BROUGHT TO HIM ARE CURED! Matthew 4:24

Though today's so called men of God are MAGIC practicing priests disguising as Christians (2 Corinthians 11:13-15) yet with all their deceitful miracles,they can NEVER perform anything close to that which our Lord Jesus did! they're just doing all this magical acts to deceive the rulers and ignorant people (Revelations 16:14)so that you won't listen to the TRUTH from TRUE Christians who aren't performing anymore SIGNS but praying fervently for God's kingdom to come and solve all mankind's problems. Matthew 6:10

TATIME:
WORKS that Jesus talked about is PREACHING,TEACHING and HEALING

but consider what made the first 12 persons Christians. Many people witnessed miracles but just 12 remained IN JESUS' teachings. John 6:60-69

If Jesus says false Prophets will perform SIGNS and WONDERS to extent of CONFUSING even the holy ones! Matthew 24:24

Now meditate over this statement, do you think FAKE can deceive the ORIGINAL? Isn't it clear from Jesus' statement that by the time these false Prophets are performing such signs true Christians WON'T be performing any miracles again?
Well know now that NO bonafide staff of the central bank(where original currency is issued) can be deceived with FAKE currency! The ONLY chance of such is when the central bank staffs aren't h

NOBODY not even the Apostles can perform anything close to what Jesus did!

TATIME:
WORKS that Jesus talked about is PREACHING,TEACHING and HEALING

but consider what made the first 12 persons Christians. Many people witnessed miracles but just 12 remained IN JESUS' teachings. John 6:60-69

If Jesus says false Prophets will perform SIGNS and WONDERS to extent of CONFUSING even the holy ones! Matthew 24:24

Now meditate over this statement, do you think FAKE can deceive the ORIGINAL? Isn't it clear from Jesus' statement that by the time these false Prophets are performing such signs true Christians WON'T be performing any miracles again?
Well know now that NO bonafide staff of the central bank(where original currency is issued) can be deceived with FAKE currency! The ONLY chance of such is when the central bank staffs aren't h

NOBODY not even the Apostles can perform anything close to what Jesus did!

TATIME:
ATHEISTS are saying all these because all those claiming Christians yet expecting miracles are misinformed churchgoers Sir!
Jesus is NO MORE performing any miracles now! If you see anyone saying they are performing miracles today in Jesus name, they are FAKE!

Jesus only performed miracles back then as a sign of approval from God, since Jesus is saying things that contradicts the religious groups of His time. His followers also performed few miracles . .

. . . as a sign that

(1) Jesus the one they're using His name has TRULY risen from the dead!

frosbel2:


This is therefore evidence that your JESUS is Powerless - All talk and no action !!!!

Anas09:

And Pastor Joe happens to have traveled to that ancient Lost Petra City. Ask him how he got the moniker.


The Lost city of Edom, not Moab.

MiddleDimension:
Bible said it in Genesis that god created night and day, and said let it show times and seasons for religious festivals. this means that the purpose for the creation of day and night by the christian god will not be fulfilled if it doesn't show times and seasons for religious festivals eg Christmas.
you can go and look it up in the Bible to verify the things i just said.

and when anyone out there is still very concerned about the day, well Bible says that what ever you consider bound on earth, is considered boud in heaven.

so if the Christian church decides to celebrate the birth of jesus on a certain day, be sure that even Allah himself in heaven will put on his dancing shoes on that day just like the angels did on the first Christmas in history. Bible says a host of angels appeared in heaven singing glory and god in the highest, and peace to men of goodwill.

@joagbaje @donnie @paulpery @alBHAGDADI @imam07 @iyamchee @Barristter07 @Lucifer Catholic @djon78

NPComplete:
Joagbaje the scammer. That fake healing episode was so bad for him that he changed his moniker to a woman's name. Chai!! All these frauds calling themselves Christians.

MiddleDimension:
@donnie, the Order has repeated time and time again, and even won a court case brought against it by ECWA that they are not satanic, or a secrete cult like you have mentioned here.

the Grail movement, in one of thei public lectures i attended, stressed it several times that they are not a cult, or occultic, and even denounce a practice which they say is occultic. the practice of astral projection.

so if someone says i am not what you call me, i think the best thing to do is to respect it.
@joagbaje, what do you think?

hopefulLandlord:


and we aren't even asking for the impossible or something that doesn't happen

dhope:
I recently overheard a discussion and was baffled to know if it could be true. my curiosity is borne out of desire to get more understanding and enlightenment on behavior of human spirit. the argument was that " Can someone spirit be summoned consistently in darkness world such as coven to join and operate with other without that person having a knowledge of being there?
pls drop ur view if u have understanding of this.

daryoor:


with demon u will know but witch craft, u might not know

Desyner:
I suspect she is being interpreted out of context.