@Somalia king, we seem to be on the same page on this. Even Zoroaster talk of Ahura mazda and ahura mainyu, Nietzche patronise him. Nazists patronise Gobineau and so on. People calling themselves pagan here know what is wrong with conventional religions than the tenet of the religion they were advocating. Its like rogue preaching. I know my trad quite well, its a branch of human experience. It does not put me at variant with others with similar thing. So I dont spoil the sacred creed of trad by mud, but edify it in some way. Our pagans are fake pagans. Disaffection at one does not mean righteousness at the other.

^^Maybe paganism is 'backward movement to the Adamic nature of man' that these dudes clamour for or 'freedom of online religious expression'. @pagan9ja, what is the tenet of paganism? Is it all ado about error of conventional religions or leftist voice with(out) hope for man? Do you respect human sacred choices and when do you give people nicety of the religion you practise? All I kept seeing is activism and no definite creed than spite. Is ego and spite the philosophy of paganism?

Omo iwaju Oloko tii sowo, eyin oloko tii s'ejigba ileke. Ogedegede Oloko tii mi yebeyebe lori omi.

Again, who was Akesan? Enter my nursery rhyme: birom-birom, biro nbata, Mojalakesan, gbangba ewa. So, Moja is Akesan! (well your version might be 'I answer Alakesan', but that will disturb the hidden secret in the poetry). Gbangba is ita or colony or vacant land. More so, ita mean merchandise, gban~gba means 'take and let me take', then ewa means ten, beautiful, sought after, the arrivals, navigative.

Omo agbebi omuwe means Akesan is 'Agbebi omuwe', that is, Akesan is the 'midwife' to the veteran divers, i.e. Omuwe. That could mean akesan helped Yoruba mariners of old deliver their brainchild of probable coastland at the base of the expanse. Was Akesan the same as Ogunfunminire? If so, Akesan is the daughter of Ogun who gave her~ire>goodspeed.

Akesan nleri, omo Agbebi omuwe. (remember there is Iperu AKESAN baale oja, in case they ask you 'what has Awori got to do with Ijebu?' Then remember Yoruba is not a picture of dicothomy playing on their mind, we are one people whose history started together under common leadership thousands of years back). AKESAN means 'Non~vindictive', Nnleri means 'wont be provoked to utter swear word' But the fact that Iperu loan us the picture of Akesan as leader of the market, (baale oja), it's clear she was human and the term is not just an ornamental word.

Kiti gbe omo Oluwe wun? How is the living, offspring of the divers? Ogbee re! it's the good life. Ogbe ire derived from eji Ogbe, it's ohun~Ife. Eji~Ogbe is the precept that establish Yoruba, meaning 'two are better' or 'two will uplift' Therefore, kitigbe is like asking about the precept in the passing from kinsmen that, 'how about the precept or the heirloom prediction? And then the response is: the prediction is blessed. Wait what's the prediction? Ire to Owa wu ase, ire taa won Ogberi o mor!'

kemiola89: Eyin omo Awori, kitigbe oo?

O gbee re o, kitigbe? How is living? O gbe re! Its the good life or its good living: thats our portion in the land of the living. Mo ki gbogbo omu Awori lile loko ati leyi odi lowu li gboin. A see se fu wa o, kama lo kama bo nire o. Omo abule sowo wun.

alj harem: Family get together ? Explain further

No, brother, lest some fast alexs hajack the pipe dream of my friends while I try to explain to alj harem. BTW, I enjoy reading your great and insightful contributions across various thread on this forum. You are a great guy, I am having a brush with history conversing wif you.

welcome bros.

Agbo malu, cattle fold; Agbo eran, ram fold; Agbo Ile, family or kinsfolks. Oju Agbo, event or feasting place. Agbo, ram, seekers, olden folks. <>The 'pastoral chord' that binds. Thanks metaphisical.

Gbam, the olden day Yoruba are cattle rearing and pastoral culture. More or less like cattle Fulani. They know of cattle healing power like oriental indians. Psalm 24.

Iluv: I frankly disagree with u. People sitting at home during the festivities does not add up to the extent of free traffic flow we experience.

@Op, who no like better thing? make una keep the flag flogging jare. I like it when you frankly disagree with wishful thinkers.

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kemiola89: Ok ooo! Eyin omo Awori, kitigbe?

O gbeere o! Omo Oluwe~wun.

Fake Jews!!:

Gotcha?

kemiola89: What's this all about?

I like to say its like family get together.

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I love your profile and monica die. Yorubas are OF THE REAL HEBREW. Thanks. "First they will ignore you and they will mock you and then fight you and then you win"- Muhatma Ghandi.

StarFlux: Wà á gbó!

Ase wah ntireke. Aro aro mor.

Fulaman198: I think often people mistake religion for culture and tradition. They are different.

Does an Ethiopian Christian have the same culture as an American Christian? No. Does a Nigerian/Senegalese Muslim have the same culture as an Arab Muslim in Saudi Arabia? No.

Culture<>Religion

Gem, danfulani. @Somali king: Victory is certain. NOW, goodbye to Ajuran whose mineral resources is 'the supremacy of nose and physical feature'.

I am happy to share this. A sociocultural group of Awori descendants is in the offing. Please are you Awori? Send your detail to prexios@yahoo.com, please, my intimate friends were the brains behind this. But they ask me to invite friends and this is the medium at my disposal. They are on my neck now. Thanks.

ladionline: Pen dho na jehova e,
werengantor.
Dagbeh wa na mehtor.
A wheren mi ije whe de.
mi na pa-gigo nawhe,
pen dho na Mau!
I give thanks to jehovah, preserver of life, 'good (well) doing (meaning) for people' father. You sustain us to another year, we will ascribe glory to you. I give glory to God.
Nunkun e moh he
nimo devoh,
Pe mina dho,
Nunkun e moh he
nimo devoh
Pe mina dho! The eyes that have seen this will see other ones, we'll give thanks. 2(ce).

@ Emmyk, got the standard international version?

Emmyk: LOL. What are you saying?

Well I'm trying to chat up my Dahomian family. Ours is one big house hence we call it Hogbonu, meaning 'people of the great house' or 'people of the great merchant'. In part, I rep Tori, a branch of greater Fon folks. I wish to chat with my family with that pleasant language, the music is spiritual. It convey the mood of the season. BTW, thanks for the curiousity, I enjoy your Okun Yoruba thread.

Rapmoney: Dem say wen dem ask lazy pikin why e nor go school,
e go say biro too heavy

Pikin no sabi book, him mama dey there dey talk say him pikin get handwriting.

Me se le, mi wa goh alo nami tho du ayi po lesi po. E ka vivi, bo supo to agban meh. E Ka gbe hun mion taun!

Cokroach wey dey hala say im must to visit canteen wey angry man stay dey chop, abeg make una leave am. Anything wey im eyes see, make im manage am. Lizard no wan be chronic bachelor o, na family matter tire am.

iphedahyor: U got it all wrong,2 me I bliv life is a teacher and we are all learners.We learn everyday from any and everything we encounter.
I only posted this topic to share and clear my view and expected others to do the same.
Nobody is mr knowall or mr perfect.I admitted the fact that I'm less holy.So,it won't b a crime if u enlighten me by telling me wat I don't know rather than castigating me.

Well I just felt that when it comes to what others believe such as religion, it is not too good to want to go punching holes and playing or teasing at the core of people's beliefs all because we are unseen, the Yoruba call such "amokunseka". I do not castigate you, I only ask ethical questions.

As for me, I believe I am as less holy as anyone else, but I strive to be responsible when thinking and not toil with the faith of others. Not because I do not enjoy the freedom of thinking or saying what i like, but because I know we are here to represent our culture and our way of life.

It is the only life I have, I don't understand life either, but still, I have learn some little things that life is a gift. I just have to add this little token to make it comprehensible to myself and people around me in my world, already Life is confusing, so I strive not to make it more confusing because some things are not right. It may be me that is not right at times, and life do seems to be more right.

Life is neither right nor wrong, we are the issue. But we do not always exist. We do not have eternity, its pint of choices that count, when choices present itself, I want to choose the right thing, the good thing. Things that add value to life. I don't strive to be right, but all I want to choose is the right thing, the good thing.

People are reflection of what these things are, I am a single fraction of billions of people, I spend time trying to be, do, have the good things of life. If people were wrong after all, its a shame on people, and my self as a rep of humanity. A shame on some people is a shame on me. So I don't do look for the shame of others to put them to shame, I only show forth my own pride and convince them for good.

You do not believe bible, but you want your readers to believe how you interpret what you don't believe yourself.

You blame us for believing "Oyinbo", but you embrace English and the Net to converse, not the language you believe in.

Rush to where you will say 'there is no god' or yahweh, and give us a magic antivirus to erase this god from our memory all at once.

Your one and only obsession is still the god, like it or not. But you can do "ethical replacement" once and for all teasing our mindset here.

To foster what you believe on us and why, be ready to come with what your religion or belief upholds, such as 'sugar candy mountain'.

If not, learn to ignore people who do believe the god you do not believe as every people do not believe the god you also believe.

What are you here to preach sir? what is the article of faith of what you believe or you are just teasing innocent believers?

Can you share the tenet of your faith? why not try and promote fanta rather than wish coke from circulation?

Can we meet your religion what does it have for us? Or it plainly shows you are insecure with the belief of others.

OJODEL10: WHAT!

Amor4ce is telling you that his blog has been updated, I think. I have always expected metaphisical to write the Yoruba canonical, Albeit, he has found a beloved site that make AfroAsia come from Yoruba (oke ti lo ba muomoh) after the megido encounter. I'm so happy for him. But amor4ce will beat all of us to it, we are his disciples. Nobody know what is on his mind now coming back from wherever 'iji' took him like Elijah. Welcome bruv, miss you, but please be kind now to those you dislike so much, please. One love.

StarFlux: Thanks! Very much appreciated I'm on a computer. Apart from the accents which most phones should be able to produce, I think there's an app for Android to make the dots (Yoruba keyboard).

Ẹkú ọdún tuntun!

Kabiesi o, aseyi samodun o, oro gbogbowa a dayo o. Oluwa aseun re fun gbogbo wa o, ami ase edumare.

^^Iyen laye atijo, owe yen ti yipada bayi o, o si ti di 'a kii deru oko nla b'obinrin', ore mi, o je lo obudeeti owe yen, agbonrin eshi lo shi nje l'obe. Awon mama ti senpe o, ehen.