enimooko:
But you did not address the issue - why is there no peace in Northern Ireland for over 30yrs?

We are on to Russia.

Jesus arms his unarmed disciples with two deadly weapons not toys

And a buffoon here won’t bear arms

How exactly is this a wonder?

enimooko:
OK, but that dosen't answer the question...Why is Russia afraid of JWs? ...and why are you addicted to JWs like your Russian counterparts?

Why did Jesus arm his unarmed disciples?

enimooko:
IF that is what the Pentecostal holy ghost told you... Mosquitoes and swords...who am I to argue further.

Idiot, swords are offense weapons. Jesus armed his disciples and you fools deny such a fact. Heretics

connectikut89:


Lool. He lacks disciplined thinking that is reasonable, rational and informed by evidence.

Agreed. Such a tunnel vision defense of the indefensible really makes Pro-tithing arguments look more desperate

Riofidelio:
I believe i've made myself clear with regards to weapons but if you feel you need weapons to survive or to live a PEACEFUL life please suit yourself!

You may believe whatever you wish but you haven’t.

Do you bear arms yourself just to train yourself restraint against their use?

enimooko:
Now struggling to breathe. Why is Russia afraid of JWs? ...and why are you addicted to JWs like you like the Russian counterparts?

I’m responding to a thread by some buffoons here

It’s part of my giving back to society; educating fools

enimooko:


You went to school....but the school did not completely go through you. This your question gives you away as a product of dogmatic Pentecostal brainwashing
Please Mr M0r0n if you are ready to confess to us other purposes, and usages and contextual meanings and non-contextual meanings or use for the word sword apart from offense and defense, you and your father will receive the mercy of God. No wonder your forefathers labeled you accursed...Mtchewwwww

Oh, the swords were for swatting mosquitoes

0temSapien:
You don't know how to make a point

Riofidelio:
We're followers of the young man from Nazareth who NEVER make use of the sword(weapons) had it been He taught US how to use it we'll surely be making use of it but since He never did we don't go for training to use it on anybody! Isaiah 2:4 That's why i as one of His followers today am telling you the purpose why He told our first set to get it but NEVER used it and gradually it became our custom to make use of it in the spiritual sense! Ephesians 6:17 Hebrews 4:12

He did make use of swords; he armed his unarmed disciples
I suggest you walk around with a sword and a gun the thou never intend to use ...that’s is if you really are a follower of Jesus.

Primesky:


Hahaha... How does it feel?. It seems you can't do without cursing and you're the one fit to defend the scriptures?. What a confusion. Again I advise you to seek Jesus now, He alone can remove that poison from you.

Please, stop misinterpreting my position. It's either you didn't read what I said clearly or you're just bent on causing confusion. No where did I say we must continue. My point has always been that since we(God's children) cannot all agree concerning the position of the scriptures and of God regarding tithing, it is wise for us to personally seek the help of God. If that is a crime, I have no apologies!

You claiming to defend it, have not ceased in cursing abusing and misquoting. It seems you have a different agenda. I won't indulge you.

By their fruits, we shall know them!. I forgive you

Keep your forgiveness

Your argument for tithing is nowhere we’re you asked to stop. You kept on barking all over demanding such scriptures stopping tithing

They must be checking for the visibly transgender as well as confirming you can hoist your flag

Riofidelio:
Sorry Sir we're not for arguments, we're ONLY to make presentations of our Faith (Matthew 10:11-14)and if it's not appealing to you OK,it's a free world that's why America (today's world power) has declared freedom of expression "freedom of worship" so please suit yourself! Phillipians 2:14

Your presentation is deficient and indefensible.

Once again, what is the purpose of arming hitherto unarmed disciples?

Why don’t you bear arms but never intend to use them as well?

connectikut89:


Going through the thread and seeing your position on such a sensitive topic, I thought you were only being illogical. But with this post of yours, I can categorically say that u're just a sanctimonious and irredeemable idiot. How can you neglect scriptural quotations? And then surmise that Satan knows the bible better? Foolish talk! When Satan showed this trait, did Jesus not counter him with the scriptures? Why not ask the Holy Spirit to show you the scriptures to counter instead of giving us conjectures? If the "Holy Spirit" is yet to enlighten you on this matter, simply keep quiet and wait for instruction.

Primesky is a total idiot. On what basis are we supposed to judge doctrine other than scriptures?

He repeats one argument that nowhere are we told to stop tithing so we must continue. I asked him how come his pastor never uses urim and Thummin and he was tongue tied. He has deficiencies in logic because he has been taught to defend tithing on this basis and nothing else. When he meets other arguments he loses his mind

But he is one of those idle college pupils who have just discovered Nairaland so let’s forgive him

Riofidelio:
Yes Sir! But He never thought them how to use it like other leaders if a Christian should use a weapon to kill someone today he need to ask himself "did Jesus taught me this?" because we're to imitate whatever we find him doing,instead He taught them NEVER to lead by the sword (Matthew 26:52) and to always pray for their enemies (Matthew 5:44) that's why we came to conclude that Jesus wanted to used the sword to teach them another important lesson Sir!

You are not the sharpest tool in the box.

Name other purposes or use for the swords apart from offense and defense. I bet they were to be used for root canal or walking sticks, or digging a grave, or fighting wild animals

You had suggested that he was addressing a Jewish audience meaning whatever he said is not applicable to you the Gentile. So could it be that even the praying for enemies and not using swords were equally meant for the immediate Jewish audience and not you?

Please don't waste my time barking all over until you address the reason behind Jesus arming his disciples with deadly weapons

Riofidelio:
Today Sir your child in the chemistry class could carry highly destructive CHEMICALS or ACIDS,of course you're sure you never taught your child to harm people so it must be to teach him/her something related to chemistry. The ONLY way Jesus can instill in the minds of His Jewish followers is to allow them have swords but never to use it even at the cost of their lives! That's why you can NEVER read in the Bible where Christians do anything by force or with the use of weapons despite all that the Jews did to them!

why not join the army, take up AK47 or M16 and rocket launchers but never use it so you may learn how to never harm men with them. Ain't you supposed to follow Christ

I see you are sheepishly trying to suggest that whatever he did was restricted to Jews. In the which I may suggest that his peace was as well meant for Jews? Very silly

So for the umpteenth time name the uses of sword apart from offense and defense. Let me help...hmmm swords can be used for root canal, they can be used as a stylus for iPads, practicing Taichi...carry on

enimooko:
Complete idiot. So why is there no peace in Northern Ireland for over 30yrs?

Didn’t your pastors declare peace?
What about South Southern Nigeria?

Buffoon please understand where the rhetorical question came from

Primesky:


You can't tempt me, OK?. You can curse as much as you like and make fun as much as you like, but you can't dent my skin.

Get rid of that poison within before it destroys you. The blood of Jesus Christ will do it for you.

It is obtuse to fail to grasp a simple concept.

Levitical Priesthood was discarded
Tithing was part of levitical priesthood as was Urim and Thummin
All these and other elements went out or were abrogated with it

How or on what basis do you dispense with one element and not the other?

0temSapien:
Assuming heaven was described the way that East African person described a train, i don't think the op will be bringing this stuff up for discussion. See how Niklas described our technology here, according to the DOCTUFOS OF truth

Clearly you don't/can't think

ROME — A Chilean survivor of clerical sex abuse has said that Pope Francis told him in a private meeting this month that God had made him gay and that both God and the pontiff loved him that way, a remarkable expression of inclusion for the leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

“He said to me, ‘Juan Carlos that’s not a problem,’ ” said Juan Carlos Cruz, the abuse survivor, describing having told the pope he was gay in a long meeting in the Vatican. “You have to be happy with who you are. God made you this way and loves you this way, and the pope loves you this way.”
https://nyti.ms/2IWCQJu

CodeTemplar:
Statement not targeted at you or even likes. Go and settle down.

Done licking your thumb kiddo?

Riofidelio:
Yes Sir! But He never thought them how to use it like other leaders,instead He taught them NEVER to lead by the sword (Matthew 26:52) and to always pray for their enemies (Matthew 5:44) that's why we came to conclude that Jesus wanted to used the sword to teach them another important lesson Sir!

So what were they to be used for? Carpentry?

geoworldedu:
This one gidi gan o.

On earth we are using COMPUTER to store trillions of information without even needing to touch some of them. Sometimes we speak to our computers and things are being done. Guys do you know that in heaven where god is sitting on his throne, where Muafrika2, Kingebukasblog and Joagbaje will be judged, they still don't know how to invent hi-tech machines. I can't imagine when I bought an exercise book to be writing things inside sef, where my tab dry with me?

But see the heavenly city where Joagbaje will be judged. Imagine what they are still using to store information:

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, [size=16pt] and books were opened. Another book was opened,[/size] which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

See the mumu god sef, instead of coming to the earth to buy just one I-pad, the guy still dey make use of books, IMAGINE, THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. The guy had to write inside many books instead of using only a single IPAD of ordinary 1 megabyte internal memory. No need of external memory sef.

since it's only letters they're writing, it won't take much memory.



Hardmirror, Johnydon22, Hahn, Otemanuduno, Keandre, Ranchoddas, Kingebukasblog, Malvisguy, Ebiagtales, Philfearon, davien,ifeness come o, food Don set

Two possible reasons;
1. Heaven is a creation of men
2. Heaven is described in terms closest to the original primary audience

As an atheist, you have a worldview, Christians too have one. Your worldview guides you in picking one of the above.

There’s a tale from east Africa about a seer who foresaw the railway line snaking into the mainland. He described it as an iron snake breathing smoke, described white men as butterflies probably because of their complexion. The movie The Gods Must be Crazy too demonstrated this to some extent. Africans unexposed to modernity mistook a truck/Jeep for an animal....So #2 is not without precedent.

CodeTemplar:
Scientists say the world is made up of neutrons, electrons and protons but forgot about morons.

You only amassed 2 likes. Go sit in that corner and lick your thumb kid

Riofidelio:
Oh please don't be offended Sir, if you want me to be silent just stop asking things relating to my Faith! Because i'll continue to tell you why i believe and trust in Jesus' commands.Matthew 10:19 compared to Isaiah 54:17 However Jesus wasn't caught unaware that's why He quickly seized the opportunity to teach His HUMBLE followers not to carry weapons anymore,i told you He still had many things to teach those honesthearted,humble and virtuous Jews following Him.John 16:12,13 But if you believe in weapons you can by one and keep it,as for true Christians our prayers for our enemies is for them to gain Salvation because we know they have a zeal for God but not according to accurate knowledge.Romans 10:1-4

Did Jesus ask them tu buy 2 swords?

Marchman:

Pastor Chris, according to his ex-wife, had long time term inappropriate relationship with several women. In other words, he was fucking them. The adulterous relationship that went by for many years. If that is not the practice of sinning, I wonder what is. Yet pastor Chris is not a nepious but a man of God. A very dangerous message.

This is antinomianism taught by heretics such as Joseph Prince.

Nowhere are we given a distinction between ‘deliberate sinning’ and ‘in-deliberate sinning’ or ocassional sinning. Sin is simply sin,and each and every sin we commit is intentional and very much deliberate. The only ‘not-deliberate sinning I can imagine of is sinning in ignorance. For instance, someone who has never heard of the gifts of the Spirit mistaking speaking in tongues for demon possession and proceeding to cast the ‘demons’ out etc. So I want to see the type of sins Gombs imagines God overlooks and the others He doesn’t.

Riofidelio:
The time left wasn't sufficient enough for their teacher to teach them all that's necessary so Jesus seized the opportunity to quickly teach them another lesson. Imagine there was no swords with them when they were attacked won't they feel that it's lack of swords that rendered them defenceless? Luke 22:49-51 Jesus used that opportunity to teach them another lesson that Christians aren't fighting against flesh and blood. Matthew 26:52 compared to Ephesians 6:12 If Christians are to carry weapons of course we'll aim at what's visible to the sight "flesh and blood" because that's the target of all those who go about with weapons!

Stop hallucinating. Whoever cheated you that time was not enough is a bloody fool. You mean Jesus was caught unawares by his own arrest yet He knew about it beforehand or he was a miserable time manager like yourself?

He asked them to bear weapons inside whatever time he had. EOD

Ivegotsolutions:
Nigeria’s biggest pastor, David Oyedepo, the owner of Winners Chapel, also known as Living Faith Church World Wide, the richest pastor in the country, with a net worth of over 150 million dollars is believed to have constructed the entire Covenant University campus based on occult, masonic symbols.

The symbols were captured by bloggers via internet Google-earth satellite imagery of his establishment
Isis Egyptian goddess symbols, 66, star of David, $ symbol, Baphomet ram god, and more symbols can be observed by simply googling ‘Covenant University,’ and clicking on and expanding the Google map.

Covenant University is located in Canaan land in Ota, Ogun State in Nigeria and is a Private owned Christian University. According to Wikipedia, it is a member of the Association of Commonwealth Universities. The University describes itself as an institution that makes new leaders.

The University also partners with USAID (United States Agency for International Development).

David Oyedepo studied in the United States during his younger days. He got a Ph.D from the Honolulu University, Hawaii in Human Development. It is common place for “Illuminati” agents in Africa to have passed through college in the United States, during which time it is proposed that they got indoctrinated.

In December 2012, the University was in the news for reportedly expelling 200 students for not attending Church service.

Bishop Oyedepo has also been in the news for his quality lifestyle, owning private jets, “Dominion Air,” and got into many Nigerian blogs’ hall of fame, for openly slapping a lady in Church.

Millions of Nigerians attend Bishop Oyedepo’s Mega Church services and of course, pay tithes generously while there.

These pictures say it all. Follow this link to view live on Google:

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/oyedepos-covenant-university-erects-occult-symbols-all-over-terrain/

Weed

Thegospelman:

(1 John 5:6) "This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth."
Contrary to your thoughts, the Scriptures say that Jesus Christ came with the water of His baptism and the blood of His death.

How do you move from ‘Jesus came by water and blood’ to ‘Jesus come by his baptism and blood of his death’?

live4dgospel:

Jesus, of course, is the High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek. But John is the last High Priest according to the order of Aaron, because he performed the de facto role of passing on the sins of the world according to the Old Testament laying on of hands. It was written "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John."(Matthew 11:13). This means that the baptism of John the Baptist marked the end of the Old Testament sacrificial system ( according to the order of Aaron). John knew why he baptized Jesus, that was the reason the next after he baptized Jesus, while standing with his disciples seeing Jesus walking by, he bore this witness “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"(John 1:29). This means according to the order Aaron Jesus is certainly not a High Priest but rather a sacrificial Lamb.
In Matthew 3:15 "But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him."
Was it not written here that Jesus was baptized to fulfill all righteousness?

Nonsense

John was not a High priest

The airplane serves no purpose other than as a monument to negro stupidity for soaking up prosperity gospel mindlessly like the under evolved idiots they are

frbona:
don't bother, message is not for you

I never asked you