lonikit:

I knew u lack understanding when u said God wanted to consume ppl of isreal for jewels. dsame God asked them to borrow it. u ans was one chapter came bfr the other. I showed u another chapter where jewel was offered to God as offering. u said God wanted them to use it for another purpose. I later show u where God was talking abt it on Ezekiel, u said it was just a parable.
I showed u where Paul specifically talked abt marriage, u said I need holy spirit to understand but I dont nid holy spirit to understand Romans u quoted that is not specific abi I showed u where Paul instructed women not to teach in church, u said I need holy spirit to understand but I dont need to understand ur quote from same chapter abt modest dressing abi.

u are confused Sir. pls seek knowledge. u really lack it.

You see why your ignorance is beyond human intervention!!!

When God told them to borrow jewels from Egyptians, did He tell them to borrow for them to wear it or for them to use it You see where u missed it!!! God was angry with them where they wore it in exodus 33 and told them to remove it before He will come in their midst and destroy them and they removed it and they stop wearing it.....now look at it now, wearing it is not the purpose why God told them to borrow it from the eqyptians but for use which serve as a money to them for their long time servitude and as well as for construction of the terbanacle which they offered for it to be use for construction....now bring it back home, did God blessed u with money for you to wear for people to admire you or for you to use it to His glory?...can u see where am expecting u to use your brain to understand

You talked about Ezekiel Yet Ezekiel has nothing to do with God telling us to wear jewelry and it has nothing to with God putting jewelry on our ears, nose or in any part of our physical body!!!

lonikit:


if u can't ans, it obvious u are hypocrite.
seek knowledge bro. salvation and knowledge aren't same.

even our father in the lord has never preached that pple wearing jewel in goin to hell.

all I can tel u is to seek knowledge. u really lack it

Is your father in the lord your God before u know if people that wear jewelry will go to hell or not Now I can see where your problem is coming from. Untill he preaches that then before u know if someone will go to hell or not Then why is he not encouraging his members to Start wearing jewelry if it not take people to hell Grow up dear, and read your bible with the help of the Holy Spirit and stop looking up to man. My comments with u so far shows u are part of the mix multitude in that church!!! I pray God deliver u

lonikit:

why dodging question?? ans nw

If you need answer Then pray for the Spirit of God to reveal to you because there's nothing I will say here that will make sense to you. You are asking me for answer Yet u are still saying I lack sense etc. Can't you see u are not in order!!!

lonikit:


don't digress, ans my question

Hahahaha, becos u know u are digressing

lonikit:


stop showcasing ur foolishness oga. ans my question.
was Paul lacking the spirit of God when he spoke about marriage in Corinthians
was Paul lacking the spirit of God when he said woman shud not teach in church

If you are not reading Bible like a novel, u won't be asking this question...

lonikit:


mind u, marriage is a non essential tin. Paul sees it as distraction. Jesus said its optional.
I hav a lot to put to u Mr holier than thou but ans the above question first

Hahaha, u have now digress to another topic....

lonikit:

now that u lack ans, u tagged the instruction "foolishness" u are hypocrite.
lolzzz. foolishness dwells in u. u knw u av failed already.
seek counsel in this coming retreat. no wonder Bible says " my pple perish for lack of knowledge " not for lack of holiness oo. that means u can be holy and stil be foolish. pls seek knowledge

The truth that has been revealed here are enough to deliver you from your ignorance.

Notwithstanding, I leave you with this passage:-

"And this is the confidence that we have in him, that if we ask anything according to his will (e.g. his will for a life partner, his will for your career etc), he heareth us" 1 John 5:14

I pray you will understand this now before's late!

lonikit:


did he lack the spirit of God when he said woman shud not teach in church?

Keep asking foolish questions!!!

lonikit:


ans me oga, did Paul lack spirit of God when he spoke abt marriage in Corinthians

I can't answer u becos truth makes no sense to u. The one I have been answering is nothing but a waste of time!!!

lonikit:


so there is no expression for human will again abi??

The meaning of Romans 8:14 is, pray for the leading of God if you are now ready to settle down in marriage so that u won't make mistake; pray for the leading of God if you are choosing a career so u won't make mistake later; pray for the leading of God if you are planning to relocate so that u won't regret later; etc
Everything we do in life should revolve around Romans 8:14 that is the meaning of it. So stop complicating issues for yourself!!!

lonikit:


stop quoting like someone with no sense. did Paul lack spirit of God when he wrote about marriage in Corinthians

did Paul lack spirit of God when he said women shud not lead in church

why did Christ made it optional, why did Paul made it optional
use ur brain oga and stop showcasing ur foolishness

Now you are confusing yourself. The guideline are found in Romans 8:14, Romans 12:2. I can give u more if u want!!!

lonikit:


I tink u really nid to use ur sense, wht has the romans 8 :14 got to do with marriage. Jesus spoke about marriage, paul use a whole chapter of 1cor 7 to speak on marriage, Ephesians spoke on marriage etc. where do dey say u shud seek will of God in marriages. if u cannot show me any place where I can find seeking the will of God in marriage or give example of those that did it in the bible, pls stop quoting me.

Paul practically condemn women teaching in church, and equally talked abt modest dressing. but all I can say is that he was led by spirit of God on the issue of modest dressing and he wasn't on the other hand bcus we go against the other part in Deeper life.

issue of marriage appeared more than 20 times in the bible. show me where anybody seek God's will or show me where Christ or the apostles commanded it.

gullible Christians everywhere.

mind u, Paul said he wants pple to be like him, Jesus said some are not married for the kingdom of God sake. Paul wrote 13 books, marriage appear in some of this epistles but extensively address it in Corinthians 7. and he never instructed anyone.

God has given us a guide line about everything we do in life. Romans 8:14 is not specifically talking about marriage Yet Romans 8:14 is a guideline for everything we want to embark on in life which includes marriage, career, job etc. Pls use your head for once!!!

lonikit:


I tink u really nid to use ur sense, wht has the romans 8 :14 got to do with marriage. Jesus spoke about marriage, paul use a whole chapter of 1cor 7 to speak on marriage, Ephesians spoke on marriage etc. where do dey say u shud seek will of God in marriages. if u cannot show me any place where I can find seeking the will of God in marriage or give example of those that did it in the bible, pls stop quoting me.

Paul practically condemn women teaching in church, and equally talked abt modest dressing. but all I can say is that he was led by spirit of God on the issue of modest dressing and he wasn't on the other hand bcus we go against the other part in Deeper life.

issue of marriage appeared more than 20 times in the bible. show me where anybody seek God's will or show me where Christ or the apostles commanded it.

gullible Christians everywhere.

mind u, Paul said he wants pple to be like him, Jesus said some are not married for the kingdom of God sake. Paul wrote 13 books, marriage appear in some of this epistles but extensively address it in Corinthians 7. and he never instructed anyone.

That's why you will continue to be an enemy of truth. There is no amount of truth that will be shown to you that will deliver you from your carnality. You want to marry by your own carnality or do things in your own way...Yet I have shown you a place in the new testament where we are asked to seek for Gods leading/will in everything we wants to do including marriage Yet u are still hardening your heart. I gave u Romans 8:14, so who wrote the book of Romans As if that is not enough, I gave u Romans 12:2..Yet thesame Paul that wrote Corinthians also wrote Romans through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit(Spirit of Christ)...Even when I showed u in old testament u attacked it, now I showed u in the new testament u are still attacking it...I just pray you will use your brain for once to understand!!!

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lonikit:


wht happen to verse 12? the Timothy that u quoted was it God that was speaking there?? besides, wht did he say in the last verse of that chapter.

why are u quoting from old testament too. quote Jesus word where he said u shud seek God's wil in marriage or u show me any example In the new testament.

u are so gullible. also tell us where Kumuyi says those wearing jewel are goin to hell??

Yet you were busy misquoting old testament to justify your ignorance about jewelry.

This is another example in the new testament where we should seek for His will in everything in life including marriage:- Romans 8:14, Romans 12:2.

lonikit:


same Paul says this
1 Corinthians 7:13-14 KJV
And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. [14] For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

but no one wil preach this to u rather, u must seek the will of God in marriage

I believe u don't understand that passage. Read verse 12 of that chapter...Besides, bible talks about seeking His will in everything including marriage (read Proverbs 3:5-6)! Then read 2Corinthians 6:14, Deuteronomy 7:3.

frosbel2:
Deeper life is just a one man cult, preaching the commandments of men for doctrine.

Mention the commandments of men for doctrine let's see if they are commandments of men or from the bible

lonikit:


why are we not obeying this

1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

My church is obeying that injuction!!!

lonikit:


church wedding is not scriptural sir. u can prove it

Bible neither mention church wedding or traditional wedding. Bible did not mention any form of wedding. Bible only mention wedding. So like I said if you like do yours as a church wedding, traditional wedding etc its your choice!!!

lonikit:


lolzzz is white wedding even scriptural

Wedding is scriptural whether u want to do it in the church or not, or as white wedding or traditional. Its your choice!!!

lonikit:


bro where did Christ instructed christians about jewel

The Spirit of Christ spoke through Apostle Paul where he spoke about Jewelry in 1Timothy 2:9-10

Remember when Christ was with His disciples He told them He has a lot of things to tell them But they will not be able to bear them now that He will send the comforter(the Holy Spirit) which will tell them all all things to come.

Beey:
As I said, you are not God.So leave my Chrisnity out of the equation.Stop being judgmental & as I told you earlier, Heaven will be full of surprises to see the ones considered unqualified, welcomed in the kingdom.The thief on the cross next to Jesus didn't seem like he was a likely candidate but there on the cross, He obtained mercy!

Using "Heaven will be full of surprises" will not help u if u dont deny yourself where necessary and repent becos i won't be surprised if u miss heaven with this level of understanding But i pray you make heaven including me, and everyone on this thread!!!

handelex:
Lol...well you are not the one to determine who makes heaven or not the only ticket is salvation and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord, so jewelry or not is not a factor bro. So pls don't condemn whom Christ has not condemned.

You see yourself....people like you, when truth is being presented, they tag it as condemning/judging. So tell me where I have condemned or how I condemned

And for your information, jewelry is a big factor if it not, Then apostle Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit will not have spoken about it in 1Timothy 2:9-10:- "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array: but (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works"......In other words, it is unbecoming of a woman professing godliness, that is, a woman who claims to be a Christian to put on gold, pearls or costly clothes.

handelex:
I think the Scriptures is quite clear on that and clearly mentions all the categories. One thing I've noticed about we Deeper Lifers, some of us are arrogant when it comes to condemning fellow believers especially on non essentials. In our church we have the the 22 cardinal Bible doctrines,have you asked yourself whether this issue is among those Bible doctrines ? I used to have this mentality but i realised we are not the only Christians upholding the standard of the word of God in this nation and we should accept our fellow christians from other denominations too and not killing ourselves over jewelry this and jewelry that as if it was ever a factor in our salvation.

Bible doctrines are different from bible injuctions/examples

Bible is made up of both doctrines and injuctions. This issues are under bible injuctions/examples not under bible doctrines.

Beey:
Nawa ohh, so even if you have the money you shouldn't spend it in order not to seem worldly? And you already know the kind of person I am? Na wa ohh.They've succeeded in brainwashing you.But let me tell you something.Judgement day will be full of surprises.Those who thought they'd be 1st, will be surprised to see they didn't make into heaven.Those who were condemned by men, they might be the 1st on the list of heaven.Stop trying to wear God's shoes trying to play judge over people.His shoes are too big for you!

So if Jesus was in your shoe He will spend so much on something that He will not even wear again after one day Are you really sure you are a Christian(Christ like) I pray you will not realize too late!!!

lonikit:

they had more than one wife

They had more than one wife, that is old testament where God overlook some of their short comings which they should have settled that with God....Now in the new testament which was a better covenant, how many believers had more than one wife in the new testament

Beey:
There are decent beautiful wedding dresses out there.I've heard from a deeper life attendee that modern wedding dresses are not allowed which to me sounds like bull crap.Until when will people continue to be held down by some man-made rules?

Is it all modern wedding dresses that are decent Something that looks decent to you might not look decent to God!!! Your comments already tells me the kind of person u are!

Besides, the groom wears a suit and continues to wear it after the wedding. However, the bride spends a lot of money on the gown and cannot wear it again....What is the moral or economic justification for that? Is it not to satisfy the iniquitous desire to be like the world? Can she not wear a gown she can wear publicly after the wedding? Did God not warn His Children not to follow the world in its madness and folly(John 2:15-17)?

lonikit:


so Jacob and david are in hell now abi

What did Jacob and David did

lonikit:


are u saying pple wearing jewelry wil end up in hell??

What is the significance of wearing jewelry

handelex:
OK, pls were did the Bible say wearing of ear rings or generally jewelry will take someone to hell?

Modified : wedding rings too.

Like I asked, must the bible mention everything that can take someone to hell

Bible spoke against marrying more than one wife Yet no where did He said marrying more than one will take one to hell Then does that mean if you have more than one wife and die in that condition you won't go to hell

Having more than one wife(lust of the flesh)!!! I pray God will open your eyes and understanding!!!

handelex:
OK, pls were did the Bible say wearing of ear rings or generally jewelry will take someone to hell?

Modified : wedding rings too.

Must bible mention everything that can take someone to hell

When you live to fulfill the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and pride of life, hell fire will be waiting for you....you want to wear jewelry because others are wearing(lust of the eye), and when you wear it(pride of life)!

handelex:
Fine, and it shouldn't be an issue for you to keep emphasizing. If Christ was here now you're telling me this is what He will be emphasizing on eh? Personal convictions and dealings with God shouldn't be mandated upon people, God owns our bodies, what He permits you He might not permit another.

Am I saying personal conviction or saying what the Bible said Its obvious you are confused between personal conviction and what the Bible says!!!