shdemidemi:


In this case it does.... Jesus have declared Himself through the gospel, will you obey or disobey Christ?

Romans 10 King James Version (KJV)

10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a (what? does this not describe you perfectly?)zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

5[size=20pt] For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law[/size], That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from .........

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Do you see the disparity between what Christ presented to Moses'?

1st John 2. Will you walk as he walked or are you going to continue denying that he walked the earth?

This is the devils work. To deny Christ in the flesh.

Yeah.... just have a good heart so Goshen360 says.

But we of the way know he walk etc on this earth daily and continually.

The wages of sin is death O ye children of lawlessness.

shdemidemi:


Will you kill your child as the law stipulate if he curse you or bend the rule like a typical hypocritical defender of legalism?

You must always try to apply the literal and allegorical to Scripture to get at the true meaning.

Classic example from the master himself, he says if your hand should cause you to sin cut it off.

translation of idiomatic expression is if whatever is making you to sin stop it.

But then what would you care for aramaic idiomatic expressions and translations.

All you know is Paul this and Paul that.never will we hear you say Christ this and Christ that

Koboko to Goshen360 and all of.his desciples

shdemidemi:


He knows people like you are only paying mouth service, when the challenge come you will quickly stowaway and do that which is convenient. Yet you put others under a yoke that you yourself will always fail when the challenge presents itself.

Mark 7
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:

11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.

12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;

13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Jesus pushed hypocrites like you to the limit. Will you kill your son according to the Moses if he curse you? Or would you bend the law like David did?

For you it is a yoke hence your bondage. For me it is a joy note Psalm 119.

1 John 2 says walk exactly as the master walks, not as the master thinks in his heart.

Children of lawlesness

Kingdompartaker:
Don't mind, sir,They are Hypocrites:

MAT 23 VS 1-39
"But woe to you, scribes and pharisees, hypocrites!, For you shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men; for you neither go in yourself, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. (NKJV)

They continue to run from pillar to pillar, stressing on irrelevant Scriptural verses to back their HERESIES, which lead to APOSTASY. The LAW of Moses they always claim to keep (That is NOT) is after them, pursuing them day and night. Clearly, it is plain that this LAW KEEPER are possessed by ANTI-GOSPEL, ANTI-CHRISTIAN spirit. PRIDE is always the reigning SIN that mostly easily beset them, and which Our LORD JESUS takes all occasions to speak and rebuke them for. GOD BLESS

Any that teach you that the law has been put away, he also is the least in the kingdom. Math 5:17

But Goshen360 and his disciples don't preach the kingdom they preach death to Christ.

They can't see themselves in the kingdom because the kingdom is governed by the laws of the most high. Note ezk 44 and 45.

Lawless children of the son of perdition.

shdemidemi:


Now you need forgiving nature of Christ. I thought you had so much confidence in your flesh to match God toe-to-toe in His test.

Obedience does not imply arrogance.

Lawlessness is death.

shdemidemi:


So, we can break the law when it isn't convenient? You see the hypocrisy in you beaming out.

Because of his forgiving nature thats why we find comfort in him go read your psalms.

but dont go breaking the law intentionally and repeatedly because of that mercy

your cup will get full eventually.

like goshen pushing for all sorts of liberal ideas rewriting the torah, real sharp guy.

Your father loves to tell lies and decive.

shdemidemi:


Where is the answer to the question?

Good man.

Christ flouted the institutionalised Sabbath day, what do you say to that?

To flout is to openly disregard.

why would the son openly disregard his fathers instructions

You are a liar just like your father the lawless man.

shdemidemi:

1 Tim 1:9
We also know that the law is made [size=28pt]not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels[/size], the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,

So what guides the rightous.. oooo i remember you and goshen preach the heart as the guide

But the master instructs us to worship in sprit and in truth, it should not be a one sided affair like you and your oga are preaching.

The whole of the bible is the truth.

Stop fighting the truth.

shdemidemi:


Where is the answer to the question?

Good man.

So if your child should fall into the well on the sabath and you save him is that flouting.

Choose your words carefully. to flout is to openly diregard.

When david eat the shewbread, did he openly disregard.

The Law was made for man and not man for the Law.

I hope that answers your queshun.. lawless son of the lawless man.

Goshen360:
^ ^ ^ These guys fight for keeping the laws but they don't know nothing hidden in the law. . They resort to insult rather than discussing the subject, with nothing to say. They quote irrelevant scriptures, out of context and all of that crap.

You think calling you a Lawless man is an insult but it is not it is scriptural.

Goshen is Lawless and proudly so.

Koboko for you well well.

Kingdompartaker:
@ MOSTHIGH

BY THEIR FRUITS WE SHALL KNOW THEM,

TRUTH IS BITTER, TALK IS CHEAP, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

(YOU CANNOT CHANGE JUST LIKE YOUR FOREFATHER, (MODERN DAY JUDAIZER)

THE LAW IS ACTUALLY MADE FOR UNGODLY PEOPLE LIKE (UNHOLY, PROFANE, MURDERER,LIARS, MANSLAYERS E.T.C)

MY PRAYER FOR YOU, IS GOD WILL DELIVER YOU

Law made for ungodly ke?

So it is no longer good for reproof and instructions on rightousness?

You are all Jokers. going round and round like rats in a maze, but the koboko you cannot escape.

Lawless children.

shdemidemi:


Christ flouted the institutionalised Sabbath day, what do you say to that?

See your choice of words, flouted ke?

Thats why you are so so rebelious.

But you think the father is one like you. no way

he shall rebuke thee well well.

Lawless son of the lawless man.

shdemidemi:


Lol All he needs is a little shove, isn't it?

Don't mix the word of God up to your destruction.
Hebrews 1
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,

The old Testament laws isn't Christ but a shadow of what is to come by Christ. The reincarnated Word is the gospel of Jesus in the last days and not what was written aforetime.

Lawless son of the lawless man.

Christ obeyed the Law, whats your beef.

Lazybones.

Kingdompartaker:
yet you cannot provide it. anyway Sir, do you read in your Bible that; THE LAW WAS GIVEN BY MOSES,BUT GRACE AND TRUTH CAME BY JESUS CHRIST. Now,let me share more light on the verse you gave (John 1 vs 1)

John 1 vs 1 : The plainest reason why The Son of GOD is called the WORD (Not the LAW OF MOSES as you claim) is this, We all know our words explain our minds to others, so was the SON OF GOD sent in order to REVEAL HIS FATHER'S MIND to the WORLD, (NOT THROUGH THE LAW, BUT THROUGH THE GOSPEL OF GRACE AND TRUTH).The chapter says CHRIST proves that HE IS GOD, HE asserts, HIS EXISTENCE in the beginning: HIS coexistence with the FATHER. Note: (HE IS the means NOW through which GOD REVEAL AND SPEAKS to US (HIS WORD,HIS GOSPEL and NOT THE LAW OF MOSES) see:Hebrew 1 vs 1-2. thank sir

Even though grace and truth came by Him he was no lawless man.

Because you have grace it does not give you a liscence to be lawless.

As a matter of fact quite the autere man.

Read math 5:17.

MrPresident1:


You kingdompartaker aka goshen360, shdemidemi aka vooks are evil, brood of vipers and spawn of satan.

You teach my people lawlessness and enforce their slavery.

You are evil.

Open you head.

JESUS CHRIST IS THE LAW OF MOSES.

Say on prophet of the Most High God.

Kingdompartaker:
give us the Scriptural verse that said that (JESUS CHRIST IS THE LAW OF MOSES). Note the Bible is the final authority, thanks sir

In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God.

The Same was in the beginning.

Is your bible not filled with WORDS or do you have only paintings and drawings.

Bidam:
Is that what you read in my post? Do you advocate masturbations, premarital sex, abortions and gay marriages in your church?

he wont answer your question cuase the answer is like a gunshot to the head.

shdemidemi:



Did you answer my question? No

Quit the ranting for a bit and act civil for a minute.

Can you categorically say you love God with all your being?

Lawless son of the lawless man.

shdemidemi:


Grace came to help you keep the law indeed.

Now that grace is here, have you successfully kept the laws?

No OOO. dont keep the law after grace has come.

You and goshen can go climb up a mountain and write your own laws or better still have a heart to heart talk.

Lawless man.

shdemidemi:


Seem you just copy and paste this same thing all through the years.

Well, I am not a Christ hater neither is Apostle Paul. It is unfortunate that you have eyes yet will not see, ears that can't hear. I pray your eyes of understanding becomes illuminated that you may understand the dimension of God revealed by the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Who called apostle paul a christ hater

I only mentioned you as a christ hater.

Paul obeyed the law to the very end

christ hater.

Lawless man.

Bidam:
God bless you my brother. Thank you for saying the truth as it is. No one can keep the law and that is why grace came, infact grace teaches us to say no to ungodliness and wordly passions and to live self controlled upright and godly lives. but for folks to advocate lawless behaviours like sex before marriages, abortions,masturbations and the likes is what i am kicking against. These antinomians are fond of distorting the pauline epistles. These are the error of lawless men peter warned us to guard against.

antinomians.

shdemidemi:


Mr Bidam where in the bible did you find moral law or other sub divisions of the law given to moses ratified after the death of Christ?

I won't go through the more obvious routes to show you where the bible says we are no longer under the law but under grace, rather I will go through administration change.

Apostle Paul with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit says - Ephesians 3:2

"If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward."

What is dispensation?

it’s a word from which we get the word stewardship or dispensing. If we go to a pharmacy and give him our prescription, he then dispenses what the doctor has ordered, but along with dispensing the product he also gives you explicit instructions. You don’t just take that medicine haphazardly, but rather you follow the instructions that came with the dispensing.

Now bringing it back into the Scriptures, a dispensation was a period of time during which God laid particular dispensational instructions to the human race.

When God called Moses and the Nation of Israel out of Egypt, he brought them around Mt. Sinai. He called Moses to the mount and gave him the law. The law is a dispensation. God's demand was dispensed to the nation of israel- the Law prescribed how they were to worship and how they were to live.

In similitude, Apostle Paul became a steward or a dispenser of a separate administration which prescribe how we should live and worship.

I Corinthians 4:1

"Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and (what’s the next word?) [size=32pt]stewards[/size] of the mysteries of God."

He isn't dispensing the law of Moses(prescribed to the nation of Israel) but he became the steward of the mysteries(secrets) that had been hid in God to the church.

Lokk at this desciple of paul.

Christ hater, why do you find it so hard to do as your master does

He is obedient to the end and all the true desciples after him.

You are a christ hater, a hater of the Laws of God.

vooks:
You are not speaking but typing.
Go and read that thread, it will set you free.
Once you are done, come and critique it

Thread set you free just as you are free.

Hilarious I tell ya.

vooks:
Scared of the truth?

The truth speaks for itself.

Speak and stop pasting link's.

Kingdompartaker:
Sir, sorry to ask you this question? ARE YOU A JUDAIZER OR A CHRISTIAN

A christopagan is a gentile and an Irealite is an Isrealite.

Show me christians in the kingdom age in your bible.

vooks:
did you finish reading on Sacred Names sects?

Sounds like an anime movie.

can you just tell me whats its about, or are you not eloquent enough to push what is written therin on thier website.

Goshen360:


Which Law are you talking about? Mosaic Law? Yes, abolished!!! Law of Spirit of Life in Christ, NO!!!

#
Can you not see the spirit of life in christ is obedient to the law.

Can you not follow in his footsteps?


you have a point regarding the the works from the heart but that is just one side of the coin. one must also be obedient as the master is obedient.

And stop preaching death to christ.

Kingdompartaker:
This is TRUTH; Sir, if i may ask you (sincerely) do you KEEP THE LAW and all that is Required: Because the Word of GOD is clear on this. CHRIST also asked this question; (JOHN 7 VS 19) " Did not MOSES give you the LAW, and yet NONE of you KEEPS the LAW? Why do you seek to kill ME (JESUS HIMSELF SPEAKING) ALSO (GAL 3 VS 10) " For as many as are of the works of the LAW, are under the CURSE; for it is written, "CURSED is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the BOOK of the LAW, to do them. (NKJV). GOD BLESS

John 8.

The same Yashua asked the pharasees which one of them could convict him of being LAWLESS.

Live as the master lives.

vooks:
http://www.letusreason.org/sacna%202.htm

Psalm 119 Blessed are the undefiled in the way,
Who walk in the law of the Lord!
2 Blessed are those who keep His testimonies,
Who seek Him with the whole heart!
3 They also do no iniquity;
They walk in His ways.
4 You have commanded us
To keep Your precepts diligently.
5 Oh, that my ways were directed
To keep Your statutes!
6 Then I would not be ashamed,
When I look into all Your commandments.
7 I will praise You with uprightness of heart,
When I learn Your righteous judgments.
8 I will keep Your statutes;
Oh, do not forsake me utterly!

yes OOOO!! Goshen and his kin are truly and proudly Lawless.

vooks:
We will never tire educating Sacred Name sects of their folly

Christ hater.

Lawless son of a lawless father.

Goshen360:
Thank you and great job, @ Kingdompartaker. I left this thread because the Law Keeper have nothing meaningful to say about scriptures. In deed, those who claim to know the law knows nothing about the law when challenged. They don't even know the purpose of the law in the first place and when the law was suppose to stay in effect. I'm tire of people who waste other's time without meaningful discussion but constant going in circles.

We are tired of people who keep on fighting christ in the guise of fighting tithes.

MrPresident1:
So if you fail to keep the Law of Moses, you are in hell.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE IN HELL

To be in opposition to the word of God