Missy89:


Awwww. Putin pant sniffer is still wailing?

You obviously have nothing better to do than to troll. How do you expect me to honour your embarrassing and groveling pleas to debate you if you act in such a childish way?

zachanalysis:
Honestly, I think I'm starting to develop a lot of respect for this Putin guy especially since his second coming. Most of kremlin's responses and reactions to Washinton's maneuvers have been very calculative. It seems Mosco has adopted a 'two-faced' approach in its dealings with the US. The first is mutual aggresion and the second is mutual rapprochement. The annexation of parts of mainland Ukraine to halt US/NATO further incursion into eastern europe and its unbending stance in the Syrian wahala are clear cases in point. Conversely, Mosco's support( though tacit) for US positions on ISIS and other jihadi groups makes it to probably be saying " if na fight u want u want we ready n if na peace u want we dey house". Lol

And that sir is a sound and insightful analysis of Putin's actions.
Why someone has deemed it newsworthy (or gloat worthy) to make s post about it beggars belief. Well I guess, anything that can be twisted to paint Russia in bad light is always welcome - no matter how s.illy. From the alleged destruction of a Russian base in Syria to this normal diplomatic effort, the emissaries of the empire welcome it all.

Missy89:


Sanctions must not be lifted.

Lol! Is that an instruction to the increasingly realistic Europeans whom some are breaking ranks with the sanctions regime or a plea?

What's the essence of this post? Putin wrote a letter to Obama? Won't be the first time he has seeked rapprochement in relations and it won't be the last.

Missy89:


Putin azz eaters are great comedians. I have actually been enjoying the thread.

I enjoy the fact that you are enjoying this thread - and I actually liked your comment too.

Akathriel:


The tyres

So funny and unfortunately probably so cos it's beset with a ton of problems. Avionics: zero. Armaments:zero. Mechanics: zero. Software: zero.

Even the gaddam ejection seat isn't functioning properly. Trudeau wasn't f**king around when he said, "This plane doesn't work". I think he may have added, "Where are the gaddam Suhkois!"

Appleyard:


Because it was never meant to work from the very begining, and the Canadian ruler didn't mince words when he said, ''the plane doesn't work''.

What then is it that works in this plane?

I'll just leave this here. For the Russophobes, please be sure to read the comments in bold and italics

[size=18pt]'Something is moving in Italy': Liguria adopts resolution to lift anti-Russia sanctions[/size]
Published time: 29 Jun, 2016 22:12

The southern coast of Crimea in the vicinity of the Big Yalta. © Sergey Malgavko


The parliament in Liguria in northwestern Italy has voted in favor of a resolution to recognize Crimea as part of Russia and lift anti-Russia sanctions. Liguria became the second region to adopt the resolution, with more votes expected in other parts of Italy.
The regional lawmakers overwhelmingly voted in favor of the resolution on Wednesday, with 26 out of 31 deputies calling on the national authorities to change the country's stance on the issue.

READ MORE:Recognize Crimea as Russian, lift harmful sanctions: Italy’s Veneto passes defiant resolution

"The members of the [regional] parliament voted to recognize the right of self-determination of the people of Crimea and to lift the sanctions," Italian politician Stefano Valdegamberi, who is behind the motion, told RT, adding that it's "great news, great results."



A general view of the Italian Senate is seen during a debate in Rome, Italy. © Remo Casilli
Read more Italian senate refuses to back automatic renewal of anti-Russian sanctions
Although the resolution is not legally binding, "It's a message that a region of Italy gives to the Italian government, and it's very significant," the politician said, adding that it has also been supported by members of Italy's ruling Democratic Party. "It is very important. More Italian regions force the government to change its foreign policy," Valdegamberi said.

READ MORE: France wants sanctions on Russia lifted soon – foreign minister

Calling on Rome to condemn the EU’s stance on Crimean reunification with Russia and scrap its restrictive measures against Moscow, the document authorizes the chairman of Liguria's regional council and the head of the region to cooperate with the government and the parliament of Italy on the issue.

Saying that the sanctions are getting "more absurd, especially with the Brexit effects," the politician said that Italy needs to "open its market to Russia and not to close it." Highlighting negative effects that the policy of restrictions and similar counter-measures have on European economies, he said that "Italian people don't understand the motivation behind these sanctions."

A mass protest against the sanctions is being organized in Italy's Verona in northern Veneto region, Valdegamberi told RT, saying that "something is moving in Italy now."


Russia's President Vladimir Putin at the 20th St. Petersburg International Economic Forum in St. Petersburg, Russia, June 17, 2016. © Mikhail Metzel / TASS
Read more Putin urges EU to restore cooperation with Russia, says Moscow is ready to meet halfway
Such regional votes show "that the process of anti-Russian propaganda in the context of Ukraine has not only come to a dead end, it is also starting to rewind and work against those who launched it," Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said, adding that "this is just the beginning."

In May, the defiant resolution to recognize Crimea as Russian and lift the sanctions was adopted in the Veneto region. Expecting a profound political effect, the document's authors then said that the Italian government should "immediately" and in full restore economic ties with Russia, imposed by the US and the EU in spring 2014 after Crimea's decision in a referendum to reunite with Russia.

READ MORE: Russia prolongs Western food embargo until end of 2017

Italy's Lombardy with its capital city of Milan is to vote on a similar resolution in early July.

Appleyard:
9 billion dollar lost so far, and we are yet to count the losses in its support to terrorists in Syria. Where are those good mendacious brethren of ours who were quoting Q4 for 2015 as the bases for growth in 2016 for the Turkish economy?

One even lied that the Azerbaijan market absorved the Turkish "caveat emptor" goods, and so the Russian sanctions were superflous and ineffective; what now?

The truth is always a light that will nonetheless shines forth at the tail end of russophobic darkness?


Their silence is deafening.

Looool! I remember those particular proclamations. What a shame really

Agbada hook for barb wire true true.

Appleyard, Zoharariel, Scully95, bonechamberlain dem Sultan Erdogan supporters club dem.... Where dem na?

[size=18pt]$9 Billion - The Toll on Turkish Economy for Shooting Down Russian Plane[/size]


June 29, 2016

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan offered an apology to Russian President Vladimir Putin for the Russian Su-24 bomber downed in November of last year in the skies over Syria by Turkish air force.

This step opened an opportunity for Moscow to cancel economic sanctions against Turkey, reported Kremlin's press service.

In November of last year, Russian fighter which took part in Moscow military campaign in Syria was shot down. Ankara announced that it had acted lawfully, as the plane crossed the Turkish airspace; Moscow denies these arguments.

After the incident, Moscow quickly imposed sanctions, among which was a ban on imports of almost all food products – from tomatoes and apricots to chicken and salt products. However, it has not affected such important energy projects such as the international gas pipeline "Turkish stream".

Sharp deterioration in the socio-economic situation in Turkey forced Erdogan to take the first step to rapprochement with Moscow. It is expected that this year economic growth will be reduced to 3.5%. Last week the World Bank said that it is much lower than was recorded in the beginning of Erdogan's reign. A sharp drop in tourism revenue after a series of explosions this year and unrest in the South-East of the country played a role.

Russian sanctions, the growth of a terrorist threat, the escalation with Kurds in the South of the country, deterioration of Turkey's relations with the United States and the European Union because of refugees - all these factors have had a tremendous impact on the economy.

According to many experts, Turkish business elites have been dissatisfied with this situation and since the end of last year put pressure on Turkish leadership, especially Erdogan.

According to the Federal customs service (FCS), the trade turnover between Russia and Turkey amounted to more than $31 billion in 2014. By the end of 2015 it had dropped to $23.4 billion, and for the first four months of this year it amounted to only $4.8 billion. In fact, by the end of this year, the drop in trade can continue and the value of these losses could exceed $10 billion. Turkey estimates the damage from the deterioration of relations with Russia at 0.3–0.4% of GDP, or $9 billion. Such assessments were shared by Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Mehmet Shimshek in December 2015.

Turkey faced the biggest drop in the flow of foreign tourists in the last 17 years.

According to the Ministry of culture and tourism of Turkey, the number of foreign tourists in April 2016 fell by 28% compared to the same period in 2015: in April of this year, Turkey was visited by 1.75 million people – almost 700 thousand less than in April last year.

This is the most serious decline in tourist flow to Turkey since May 1999, when the PKK issued a warning to tourists, announcing the beginning of "retaliation" campaign of after the capture and imprisonment of their leader Abdullah Odjalan.

According to the published statistics the total number of foreign tourists from January to April 2016 fell by 16.5% compared to the same period in 2015. As of April this year, the number of tourists from Germany decreased by 35%. The number of tourists from Russia fell by 79%.

Russian citizens have traditionally been most numerous after German tourists, however, after a sharp deterioration in relations between the two countries, the imposition of sanctions and ban on organized travel to Turkey, after Turkish air force shot down the Russian Su-24 aircraft involved in the operation in Syria, the Russians dropped out of the top three countries to visit Turkey. Besides Germany, the largest number of tourists visiting Turkey in April arrived from Georgia and Bulgaria.

***

KK: Turkey may look forward to a better official relationship with Russia, however the trust of the Russian public may take decades and generations to repair. Some business relationships will never be restored, as they have already been occupied by others... But Turkey has worse problems to deal with today, as it's global security image is nearing that of Iraq and Syria.

How could I have not posted this before?? Cos it deserves to be number 1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEhv6J0gFHo

#SDCC State Department Comic Central



US Officials Refuse to Comment on Reports That CIA Weapons for #Syria "Rebels" Stolen Again


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pmbCjNZAfs

Amerika just wants to bring another group of downtrodden and repressed people into its circle of progressive, free and democratic committee of nations by arming its liver eating, head chopping moderate freedom fighters. Amerika has done this countless times. What could go wrong?

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/27/world/middleeast/cia-arms-for-syrian-rebels-supplied-black-market-officials-say.html?_r=0&referer=

[size=18pt]C.I.A. Arms for Syrian Rebels Supplied Black Market, Officials Say[/size]



The funeral in Rimoun, Jordan, for Anwar Abu Zaid, a police captain who was killed after he attacked a police training center in November. American and Jordanian officials said they believed that the weapons he used had been meant for a program to train Syrian rebels.
NASSER NASSER / ASSOCIATED PRESS

By MARK MAZZETTI and ALI YOUNES
JUNE 26, 2016
AMMAN, Jordan — Weapons shipped into Jordan by the Central Intelligence Agency and Saudi Arabia intended for Syrian rebels have been systematically stolen by Jordanian intelligence operatives and sold to arms merchants on the black market, according to American and Jordanian officials.

Some of the stolen weapons were used in a shooting in November that killed two Americans and three others at a police training facility in Amman, F.B.I. officials believe after months of investigating the attack, according to people familiar with the investigation.

The existence of the weapons theft, which ended only months ago after complaints by the American and Saudi governments, is being reported for the first time after a joint investigation by The New York Times and Al Jazeera. The theft, involving millions of dollars of weapons, highlights the messy, unplanned consequences of programs to arm and train rebels — the kind of program the C.I.A. and Pentagon have conducted for decades — even after the Obama administration had hoped to keep the training program in Jordan under tight control.

The Jordanian officers who were part of the scheme reaped a windfall from the weapons sales, using the money to buy expensive SUVs, iPhones and other luxury items, Jordanian officials said.

The theft and resale of the arms — including Kalashnikov assault rifles, mortars and rocket-propelled grenades — have led to a flood of new weapons available on the black arms market. Investigators do not know what became of most of them, but a disparate collection of groups, including criminal networks and rural Jordanian tribes, use the arms bazaars to build their arsenals. Weapons smugglers also buy weapons in the arms bazaars to ship outside the country.


The F.B.I. investigation into the Amman shooting, run by the bureau’s Washington field office, is continuing. But American and Jordanian officials said the investigators believed that the weapons a Jordanian police captain, Anwar Abu Zaid, used to gun down two American contractors, two Jordanians and one South African had originally arrived in Jordan intended for the Syrian rebel-training program.

The officials said this finding had come from tracing the serial numbers of the weapons.

Mohammad H. al-Momani, Jordan’s minister of state for media affairs, said allegations that Jordanian intelligence officers had been involved in any weapons thefts were “absolutely incorrect.”

“Weapons of our security institutions are concretely tracked, with the highest discipline,” he said. He called the powerful Jordanian intelligence service, known as the General Intelligence Directorate, or G.I.D., “a world-class, reputable institution known for its professional conduct and high degree of cooperation among security agencies.” In Jordan, the head of the G.I.D. is considered the second most important man after the king.

Representatives of the C.I.A. and F.B.I. declined to comment.

The State Department did not address the allegations directly, but a spokesman said America’s relationship with Jordan remained solid.

“The United States deeply values the long history of cooperation and friendship with Jordan,” said John Kirby, the spokesman. “We are committed to the security of Jordan and to partnering closely with Jordan to meet common security challenges.”

The training program, which in 2013 began directly arming the rebels under the code name Timber Sycamore, is run by the C.I.A. and several Arab intelligence services and aimed at building up forces opposing President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. The United States and Saudi Arabia are the biggest contributors, with the Saudis contributing both weapons and large sums of money, and with C.I.A. paramilitary operatives taking the lead in training the rebels to use Kalashnikovs, mortars, antitank guided missiles and other weapons.

The existence of the program is classified, as are all details about its budget. American officials say that the C.I.A. has trained thousands of rebels in the past three years, and that the fighters made substantial advances on the battlefield against Syrian government forces until Russian military forces — launched last year in support of Mr. Assad — compelled them to retreat.


Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. in March at a Jordanian-American military training center in Zarqa, Jordan.
JORDAN PIX / GETTY IMAGES

The training program is based in Jordan because of the country’s proximity to the Syrian battlefields. From the beginning, the C.I.A. and the Arab intelligence agencies relied on Jordanian security services to transport the weapons, many bought in bulk in the Balkans and elsewhere around Eastern Europe.

The program is separate from one that the Pentagon set up to train rebels to combat Islamic State fighters, rather than the Syrian military. That program was shut down after it managed to train only a handful of Syrian rebels.

Jordanian and American officials described the weapons theft and subsequent investigation on the condition of anonymity because the Syrian rebel training is classified in the United States and is a government secret in Jordan.

News of the weapons theft and eventual crackdown has been circulating inside Jordan’s government for several months. Husam Abdallat, a senior aide to several past Jordanian prime ministers, said he had heard about the scheme from current Jordanian officials. The G.I.D. has some corrupt officers in its ranks, Mr. Abdallat said, but added that the institution as a whole is not corrupt. “The majority of its officers are patriotic and proud Jordanians who are the country’s first line of defense,” he said.

Jordanian officials who described the operation said it had been run by a group of G.I.D. logistics officers with direct access to the weapons once they reached Jordan. The officers regularly siphoned truckloads of the weapons from the stocks, before delivering the rest of the weapons to designated drop-off points.


Then the officers sold the weapons at several large arms markets in Jordan. The main arms bazaars in Jordan are in Ma’an, in the southern part of the country; in Sahab, outside Amman; and in the Jordan Valley.

It is unclear whether the current head of the G.I.D., Gen. Faisal al-Shoubaki, had knowledge of the theft of the C.I.A. and Saudi weapons. But several Jordanian intelligence officials said senior officers inside the service had knowledge of the weapons scheme and provided cover for the lower-ranking officers.

Word that the weapons intended for the rebels were being bought and sold on the black market leaked into Jordan government circles last year, when arms dealers began bragging to their customers that they had large stocks of American- and Saudi-provided weapons.

Jordanian intelligence operatives monitoring the arms market — operatives not involved in the weapons-diversion scheme — began sending reports to headquarters about a proliferation of weapons in the market and of the boasts of the arms dealers.

After the Americans and Saudis complained about the theft, investigators at the G.I.D. arrested several dozen officers involved in the scheme, among them a lieutenant colonel running the operation. They were ultimately released from detention and fired from the service, but were allowed to keep their pensions and money they gained from the scheme, according to Jordanian officials.

Jordan’s decision to host the C.I.A.-led training program is the latest episode in a long partnership.

Beginning in the Eisenhower administration, the C.I.A. made large payments to King Hussein, who ruled Jordan from 1952 until his death in 1999, in exchange for permission to run numerous intelligence operations on Jordanian soil.


Ambulances leaving the police training center where Captain Abu Zaid gunned down five people, including two American contractors.
RAAD ADAYLEH / ASSOCIATED PRESS


C.I.A. money and expertise also helped the king establish the G.I.D. and put down internal and external threats to his government. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the United States has flooded Jordan with money for various counterterrorism programs. American and Jordanian spies have run a joint counterterrorism center outside Amman, and a secret prison in Jordan housed prisoners the C.I.A. captured in the region.

In his 2006 book, “State of Denial,” the journalist Bob Woodward recounted a 2003 conversation in which George J. Tenet, then the director of central intelligence, told Condoleezza Rice, then the national security adviser, “We created the Jordanian intelligence service, and now we own it.”

It is a relationship of mutual dependence, but Jordan has particular leverage because of its location in the heart of the Middle East and its general tolerance to be used as a base of American military and intelligence operations. Jordan’s security services also have a long history of trying to infiltrate Islamic militant groups, efforts that have yielded both success and failure.

In 2009, a Jordanian doctor — brought to the C.I.A. by a G.I.D. officer after the doctor said he had penetrated Al Qaeda’s leadership — turned out to be a double agent and blew himself up at a remote base in Afghanistan. Seven C.I.A. employees, as well as the G.I.D. officer, were killed in the attack.

Two recent heads of the service, also known as the Mukhabarat, have been sent to prison on charges including embezzlement, money laundering and bank fraud. One of them, Gen. Samih Battikhi, ran the G.I.D. from 1995 to 2000 and was convicted of being part of a scheme to obtain bank loans of around $600 million for fake government contracts and pocketing about $25 million. He was sentenced to eight years in prison, but the sentence was eventually reduced to four years that were served in his villa in the seaside town of Aqaba.


Gen. Mohammad al-Dahabi, who ran the service from 2005 to 2008, was later convicted of stealing millions of dollars that G.I.D. officers had seized from Iraqi citizens crossing into Jordan in the years after the American invasion of Iraq in 2003. His trial showed that he had also arranged for money to be smuggled in private cars from Iraq into Jordan and had been involved in sellingJordanian citizenship to Iraqi businessmen. He was sentenced to 13 years in prison and fined tens of millions of dollars.

President Obama authorized the covert arming program in April 2013, after more than a year of debate inside the administration about the wisdom of using the C.I.A. to train rebels trying to oust Mr. Assad.

The decision was made in part to try to gain control of a chaotic situation in which Arab countries were funneling arms into Syria for various rebel groups with little coordination. The Qataris had paid to smuggle shipments of Chinese-made FN-6 shoulder-fired weapons over the border from Turkey, and Saudi Arabia sent thousands of Kalashnikovs and millions of rounds of ammunition it had bought, sometimes with the C.I.A.’s help.

By late 2013, the C.I.A. was working directly with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and other nations to arm and train small groups of rebels and send them across the border into Syria.

The specific motives behind the November shooting at the Amman police training facility remain uncertain, and it is unclear when the F.B.I. will officially conclude its investigation.

This year, the widows of the Americans killed in the attack sued Twitter, alleging that it knowingly permitted the Islamic State to use its social media platform to spread the militant group’s violent message, recruiting and raising funds.

Captain Abu Zaid, the gunman, was killed almost immediately. His brother, Fadi Abu Zaid, said in an interview that he still believed his brother was innocent and that he had given no indications he was planning to carry out the shooting.

The Jordanian government, he said, has denied him any answers about the shooting, and has refused to release his brother’s autopsy report.

Mark Mazzetti reported from Amman and Washington, and Ali Younes from Amman, Washington and Doha, Qatar.

The sultan has shown his mettle.... His acolytes have turned tail and made for the hills in shame....

I thought Turkey was "teaching Russia a lesson", "showing who's boss", "exposing just how weak Putin is & how his bootlickers should cower in shame", etc?

Why are y'all so quiet now? Zombies! Little understanding of real geopolitics. Equating Hollywood with real world events. Lol!


Turkish Prime Minister Expressed Readiness to Compensate Russia for Su-24 Incident
Translated by Ollie Richardson for Fort Russ
28th June, 2016

Lenta




Turkey is ready to compensate Russia for the damage after the Su-24 was downed. This statement was made by Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim to the TV channel TRT, reports RIA Novosti.

"The content of the letter is clear. We expressed our regret and, if necessary, will pay compensation. Both countries want normalization of relations. I think things are on the mend," he said.

On Monday, June 27th, it was reported that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan apologized for the downed plane in a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The crisis in relations between Moscow and Ankara started in the fall of 2015 due to the attack of the Turkish air force on the Russian Su-24 bomber engaged in anti-terrorist operations in Syria. The pilot Oleg Peshkov and co-pilot Konstantin Murakhtin ejected. Murakhtin managed to escape, but the pilot was shot from the ground by militants when he was in the air above the territory of residence of the Syrian Turkmen.

Since then, Russia imposed sanctions on Turkey, particularly banning the import of certain foodstuffs and repealing chartered flights and the visa-free regime.

Where are all those Sultan Erdogan supporters beating their chest, taunting Russia?

I'll just leave this here for y'all to chew on...

https://www.rt.com/news/348562-putin-erdogan-turkey-pilot/


[size=18pt]Erdogan apologizes to Putin over death of Russian pilot, calls Russia ‘friend & strategic partner’[/size]
Published time: 27 Jun, 2016 13:05
Edited time: 27 Jun, 2016 17:37



Russian President Vladimir Putin has received a letter in which his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan apologized for the death of the pilot who was killed when a Russian jet was downed over the Syrian-Turkish border last November, the Kremlin said.
Erdogan expressed readiness to restore relations with Moscow, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Monday.

The incident involving the downing of the Russian Su-24 bomber led to the worst deterioration of Turkish-Russian relations in recent history, with Russia describing it as a “stab in the back.”


“The head of the Turkish state expressed his deep sympathy and condolences to the relatives of the deceased Russian pilot and said ‘sorry,’” Peskov said.

In his letter, Erdogan called Russia “a friend and a strategic partner” of Ankara, with whom the Turkish authorities would not want to spoil relations.

“We never had a desire or a deliberate intention to down an aircraft belonging to Russia,” the letter read, according to a statement published on the Kremlin website.

According to the statement, Erdogan’s letter stressed that “the Turkish side undertook all the risks and made a great effort to recover the body of the Russian pilot from the Syrian opposition, bringing it to Turkey. The organization of the pre-burial procedures was conducted in accordance with all religious and military procedures.”

Ankara has treated the family of the dead Russian pilot as if it were a Turkish family and is “ready for any initiatives to relieve the pain and severity of the damage done,” the letter said.

The address by the Turkish leader also informed that a criminal investigation has been launched against the person suspected of killing the Russian pilot, the Kremlin said.

In addition, Erdogan expressed readiness to tackle security challenges in the region and fight terrorism together with Moscow.

Turkish Hurriyet newspaper reported that sources close to Erdogan have confirmed that the letter with the apology was sent to Moscow.

On November 24, 2015, a Russian Su-24 bomber, taking part in an anti-terrorist mission in Syria, was brought down by the Turkish Air Force.

The plane crashed in rebel-held territory in Syria near the Turkish border. The pilots ejected, but one - Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Peshkov - was killed by machine gun fire from the militants on the ground.

Turkish nationalist Alparslan Celik has claimed responsibility for Peshkov's death.

Ankara claimed that it attacked the Russian bomber for violating its airspace, but was never able to provide proof that any wrongdoing took place.

Moscow vigorously denied the Turkish claims, calling the downing of the plane “a stab in the back" from a state which it had considered an ally.

Russia reacted strongly to the incident, imposing a wave of sanctions against Turkey, which affected trade, tourism, joint energy projects and other areas.

From the start, the Kremlin made it clear that restoration of normal relations with Turkey would be impossible without Ankara apologizing and paying compensation to the pilot’s family.

The news of Erdogan’s apology had a positive effect on Turkey’s currency. The Turkish lira rallied to 2.9330 from 2.9430 against the US dollar, Reuters reported.

Turkey's foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, will take part in a meeting of the foreign ministers of the Organization of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation, due to take place in the Russian resort of Sochi on July 1, Turkish NTV channel reported.

An invitation to participate in the event was sent to Cavusoglu by Russia’s Foreign Ministry last week.

Also on Monday, Turkey reached an agreement to normalize relations with Israel, with the deal putting an end to the rift over the Israeli Navy’s killing of nine Turkish citizens during a Gaza flotilla raid in 2010.

US, Osman Faruk Logoglu, said he would not rule out the possibility that Erdogan had decided to mend relations with Russia after taking advice from Washington.

“These decisions aren’t taken lightly… So, you listen to your friends, including of course, the US and others,” he told RT.

Washington and NATO, in general, were “preoccupied with the state of relations between Turkey and Russia,” fearing the it may result in a military confrontation between the two states, Logoglu said.

“This latest initiative coming just before the Warsaw NATO summit will create a sense of comfort [from] the NATO alliance,” he added.

An international law professor at Georgetown University, Daoud Khairallah, has welcomed the Turkish apology, but stressed that now it would be important for Ankara to back its words by action.

“It’s a positive step. One would hope that beyond apologizing for downing the plane and killing of the pilot, this would contribute to the peace in the region, considering the role that Turkey has been playing in fueling the war in Syria and Iraq, facilitating the entrance of so many terrorists from all over the world,” Khairallah said.

According to the professor, President Erdogan “has started realizing the mistakes he made about the Syrian war” and that “using terrorism for political objectives” was costing Turkey dearly.

The Turkish president is “trying to mend fences now” because he finally realizes that “he can’t isolate himself from the rest of the world,” Khairallah said.

Appleyard, Scully95, Zoharariel

Forget the European Parliament, the European Commission, the European Council of Ministers or the European Council......the EU’s Committee of Permanent Representatives (“COREPER”) is the trojan horse through which the Hegemon gets Europe to do it's bidding.

Interesting read

[size=18pt]The US, the EU and the Spectre of Brexit[/size]

ALEXANDER MERCOURIS
24 hours ago 5 450
The Brexit referendum is the harbinger of more revolts to come as the EU has come to be used as a geopolitical project detached from the interests of the people of Europe.



A spectre is haunting Europe – the spectre Brexit. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Merkel and Hollande, Draghi and Juncker, French Socialists and German police-spies.


How did it happen? The answer lies not in England, which outside London voted heavily for Brexit. It lies within the EU itself.

I have been a strong supporter of the EU for nearly all my adult life. However I am not blind to the realities. It has been obvious to me for a long time that things have been going seriously wrong.

First it is important to dispel certain myths about the EU. In the popular Eurosceptic imagination it is a remote and unaccountable bureaucracy based in Brussels that meddles and regulates every area of life. This is a misrepresentation. The EU bureaucracy is actually rather small and has only as much power as EU governments give it.

John Laughland in a recent RT Crosstalk called the EU more accurately a cartel of governments who conspire behind the scenes with each other to pass legislation without the need to consult with their democratically elected parliaments. Whilst that is closer to the truth, it is not the whole truth. Rather the EU, at least as it has become over the last decade, is best understood as a cabal of three governments, primarily those of the US and Germany, with France treated by the Germans (though not by the US) as a sort of junior partner, which make the decisions in secret that are binding on all the rest.

I appreciate that this description of the EU will meet with strong objections in some quarters, especially as by far the most powerful of these governments is that of the US which is not a member of the EU. However what I say is well known by all the relevant insiders. Indeed the facts speak for themselves and are hardly even concealed. On key issues EU policy is nowadays decided in private bilateral discussions between the US and the Germans, often involving the US President and the German Chancellor, with the Germans then telling the other Europeans what they should do.

In a recent article for Sputnik I described the process as it is used in connection with the sanctions issue:

“……..a source has told me US representatives routinely attend the EU’s Committee of Permanent Representatives (“COREPER”), though minutes of its sessions are edited to suppress the fact of their presence. However their regular attendance at sessions of a key institution of the EU — of which the US is not a member state — has been complained about on the floor of the European Parliament.
Since COREPER prepares the agenda for the EU’s Council of Ministers (the EU’s key law making body) and co-ordinates the work of some 250 EU committees and working parties — in effect the entire EU bureaucracy — US presence at its sessions gives the US a decisive voice in the making of EU policy.
Since the European Council decided to impose sectoral sanctions on Russia on 31st July 2014 every single decision to extend the sanctions has been taken not by the European Council but by COREPER, though COREPER’s legal authority to make such decisions is questionable to say the least.
What happens in reality is that US President Obama tells German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Hollande to extend the sanctions, the Commission drafts the decision, COREPER ratifies it, and it is then published without further discussion on the Europa website.
Italian Prime Minister Renzi has complained German Chancellor Merkel talks about EU decisions to French President Hollande and EU Commission President Juncker. They are then announced, and it is only then he learns about them.”

In the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote this procedure was at work again. The White House website confirms that apart from British Prime Minister Cameron the one EU leader US President Obama spoke to following the Brexit vote was German Chancellor Merkel – as if it were Chancellor Merkel who headed the EU! The information the White House has released about the call shows it was intended to “reassure” Merkel and Cameron of the US’s commitment to maintaining its partnership with the EU and Britain. Another way of putting it would be to say that it was intended to remind Merkel and Cameron of the US’s paramount interest in the EU’s and Britain’s affairs and in preserving its alliance with both of them.

As I have explained in many places, any European political leader who tries to hold out against this system risks finding their objections simply ignored whilst becoming the target of the wrath of the US and of the EU establishment. Thus in January 2015, shortly after the Syriza government came to power in Greece, it found that it was supposed to have agreed to the rolling over of sanctions against certain Russian individuals and businesses. In fact it had done no such thing. However when it dared to make its concerns public its leaders were warned through the European media that they were being investigated by the West’s intelligence agencies to see if they had Russian links. Faced by such a threat and caught up in difficult debt negotiations with the EU leadership, they caved in and the decision to roll over the sanctions was left to stand.

European leaders who object to the way things are now done in fact now run the risk of becoming the target of vicious smear campaigns in Europe’s overwhelmingly Atlanticist mass media, as well as attempts to engineer their removal from office. Along the way they also risk having their countries become the target of harassment and sometimes outright destabilisation carried out through the EU’s institutions. Thus Prime Ministers Berlusconi of Italy and Papandreou of Greece were ejected from office because they objected to aspects of the EU’s economic policies during the Eurozone crisis and in Papandreou’s case wanted to put an EU bailout proposal to the Greek people in a referendum; Prime Minister Tsipras of Greece experienced the illegal cutting off of credit to his country’s banks and efforts – which were ultimately successful – to force him to reform his government in a more “acceptable” direction; and Prime Minister Orban of Hungary is regularly branded in parts of the European media a fascist because he has objected to certain EU policies and wants better relations with Russia.

Beyond these campaigns are repeated – though usually veiled – threats to cut off an EU member state’s access to the EU structural funds or even to suspend its voting rights in the EU institutions if it refuses to toe the line. This is being currently done to Poland in relation to certain judicial changes that are being enacted there, it was done during the recent Austrian Presidential election in case the people of Austria voted the “wrong way”, it was done last autumn to force various East European states to toe the EU line during the migrant crisis and it was done – repeatedly – to Greece during the Grexit crisis last year.

Most notorious of all is of course the EU’s habit of simply ignoring the results of elections or referendums that go against its decisions. Most recently Greece and the Netherlands have conducted referendums – on Greece’s bailout and on the association agreement with Ukraine – that were simply set aside or ignored.

In such a situation, where a political leader’s chances of survival and ability to get things done depends so much on staying on the right side of the EU’s leadership – and ultimately of the US – rather than their own country’s voters, it is unsurprising that the quality of Europe’s political leadership has declined to so great a degree. In place of people like De Gaulle, Adenauer, Brandt and Thatcher, European political leaders today increasingly come over as colourless technicians distant from their own voters because the system allows for nothing else.

Germany is no exception to this phenomenon. It is a fundamental mistake to see Germany as the beneficiary of the system. Far from Germany being the imperial master of the system as is often claimed, Germany actually finds itself in the unhappy position of being paymaster and enforcer for policies decided on in the US with its leader spied on to make sure she toes the line. The result is that Germany regularly gets blamed for policies that are actually decided elsewhere and which – as in the case of the sanctions imposed on Russia – are often contrary to its own interests.

Take the issue that more than any other crystallised anti-EU sentiment in Britain during the Brexit referendum: the EU’s policy of unrestricted internal migration, which has resulted in large numbers of East European migrant workers coming to Britain.

Freedom of movement within the EU has always been a core principle of the EU. It was never an issue within the EU until the EU was expanded to include the much poorer countries of Eastern Europe. That expansion – as everyone knows – was driven not by European needs but first and foremost by US geopolitical strategies, being intended to anchor Eastern Europe in the US-led Western alliance system.

To that end the East European states were admitted into the EU long before their economic situations justified doing so. In order to seal the deal their elites were won over by promises of a seat at the EU top table. Huge sums were paid over to them principally by Germany through the so-called EU structural funds (originally conceived to foster development in the EU’s poorer regions but increasingly used in Eastern and Southern Europe as a form of legalised bribery to bind local elites). Lastly, their young people were won over with the promise of visa free access to the rest of Europe – thus creating the migrant situation that has been the cause of so much anger in Britain.

The implications were never thought through or discussed within Europe because EU expansion ultimately followed a US geopolitical agenda rather than a European one. The result is that despite increasing alarm across Europe at the consequences of the policy the EU bureaucracy continues to pursue the same policy towards other states the US wants to bring into the system like Turkey and Ukraine.

Or take another issue: the Eurozone crisis. The idea of European monetary union was originally conceived in the 1970s and was already firmly on the agenda by the late 1980s. Margaret Thatcher fell from power because she opposed it. The idea it was conceived following the fall of the Berlin Wall is wrong.

What has made the Eurozone crisis so intractable is its well-known structural problems – the fact a single currency was created to cover very different economies without a single treasury or tax system behind it – but also the contradiction between the US geopolitical ambitions that increasingly drive the EU and European needs if the Eurozone is to be managed properly.

Economic conditions in southern Europe – in Greece especially – point clearly to the need for at least some of these countries to exit the Eurozone, a fact that is well-understood within the German government. Yet that option is ruled out not just because of opposition within Europe itself but because again it goes against the geopolitical interest of the US, which is to keep these countries locked within the euro system, which in turn binds them to the Western alliance and therefore ultimately to the US itself. Thus at the height of the Grexit crisis last year German Chancellor Merkel abruptly reversed a previously agreed German position to support Grexit following a call from President Obama of the US who told her not to. The result is that instead of the Greek crisis being resolved once and for all in Europe’s and Greece’s interests – as German Finance Minister Schauble said it should be – it has instead been left to fester indefinitely.

The EU can work – as it did in the past – when it functions as a genuine community of economically and culturally compatible free democracies, which do not always agree with each other but which are nonetheless prepared to work closely with each other in certain areas in their mutual interest.

It cannot work as a crypto-imperial project of someone else – especially when that someone else is located far away on the other side of the ocean and can therefore have little idea of European wants and needs.

It was therefore inevitable that beyond a certain point such a crypto-imperial project would provoke resistance and it is entirely unsurprising that the first expression of that resistance should come in Britain, which has always been the country that was most skeptical of the EU in the first place.

In truth Britain has for some time now operated in an anomalous position within the EU. As Wolfgang Munchau has rightly said in an article in the Financial Times, Britain has in reality been at best a semi-detached member of the EU for some time, remaining in theory a member of the EU but refusing to commit itself to the Eurozone where the key decisions are now made.

Britain is not therefore a key member of the EU and Brexit is not the catalyst for a wider revolt within the EU that some say it is. Rather it is a harbinger of more revolts to come, which were already on the way, and which without a radical change of approach would in time happen irrespective of whether there were a Brexit vote or not. Already there are stirrings in Spain, Italy and France and increasingly even in Germany itself.

The EU leaders still have the time and political space to turn things round. Doing so however will require a degree of courage, intelligence and political imagination that in recent years has been in disastrously short supply. Above all what is needed is a renegotiation of Europe’s relationship with the US, changing it from a relationship of subservience into one of genuine equality and partnership.

The alternative is probably not the imminent disintegration of the EU. The economic and political bonds that hold it together make that unlikely. Rather it is one of an EU wracked by disagreement and crisis, with its population increasingly sullen and disaffected, and with its economy going nowhere.

In some respects that would be an even worse outcome – and betrayal of the people of Europe – than the EU’s disintegration, which would at least offer the possibility of a fresh start. As a European I devoutly hope it will not come to that. As a realist I have no conviction that it won’t.

Zoharariel:


Thanks for posting this video comrade Minted and I think everybody should see it. When I said Israel is the puppet-master behind the curtain & the hidden hand pushing Amerika into a confrontation with Russia & China, I was tagged a conspiracy theorist.

This goes to show that Amerika's fight against ISIS is nothing but a ruse. Amerika has always been a breeding ground for tyranny.


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Osystein - This thread deserves to be on front page.

Israel, knowing fully well that has no legitimacy and that its hands are awash with the bloods of innocents has to resort to the weakening and destruction of its neighbour and adversaries to guarantee its survival.

One thing I do know is that evil may have its way for a while but come some day, good will triumph over it.

@zoharariel if you enjoyed that video, go unto RT America The Resident and Abby Martin's The Empire Files also on RT to learn more. You will now realize why Amerika is having sleepless nights trying to figure out what to do with RT and has labeled this brave news media a propaganda outfit

Zoharariel:


When Vladimirovich Putin said 40 Nations are financing ISIS, I just knew Israel would be involved.

The god's chosen people, just like their god, have never been up to any good. I am only glad that the “GOYS” have now woken up in physical reality, and very soon, if there's any country that would be obliterated from the Middle East, it won't be Iran or Syria but Israel.

The Israeli government is right dead center in the middle of all this chaos, death and destruction.The Israeli government aids and abets terrorists. It provides medical help for them and sends them back to the battlefield after they have been recuperated in Israeli hospitals. The Israeli government periodically engages in bombing raids against the Syrian government thereby helping it's terrorist proxies in Syria. The Israeli government in violation of international law under the Geneva convention is illegally digging for oil in the Golan Heights. No wonder Satanyahu has declared Golan Heights as non-negotiable. Satanyahu doesn't believe in the people of Palestine attaining nationhood. The goal is to permanently keep them subjugated and repressed; their lands increasingly stolen and having them ejected from those lands and the remaining ones remanded in that open air prison called Gaza.

The government or Israel is a completely evil and murderous regime masquerading as "God's chosen people", using the exploits of the old Israelites of the Bible to f00l people into believing their legitimacy. It's obvious why ISIS has never attacked Israel. It's obvious who benefits from the chaos in the middle. One major obstacle stands in the way of Israel's goals in the Middle East and that is Iran. That is the exact reason behind all these saber rattling and warmongering against Iran.

More and more people are waking up to know the real Israel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTzjrVaBUYQ

Land grabbing, innocents killing, terror sponsoring nation. Their end wil surely come sooner or later

Appleyard:
America's horror interventionism and tnppling of governments abroad since 1953 till date,

Correction: since 1949 ironically in this same Syria. The earliest recorded (or admitted) account

It is in our interest, Steinmeier asserts, "to integrate Russia in an international partnership of responsibility."

"Anyone who thinks symbolic Panzer Parades on the eastern border of the Alliance will bring more security, is wrong.


Here is the German Foreign Minister by the way belittling the significance of the Dragoon Ride show of force put up by Amerika through several Baltic and Eastern European cities. Which also by the way, got a polish citizen killed. First Samantha Power's motorcade and now Amerika's military convoy rumbling through the streets of Poland has gotten someone else killed.

Too much gra gra busy body upandan

ValerianSteel:
Nearing Service Entry??

Good lawd you guys should go soft on your lies and propaganda.

Is it that you are incapable of reading to understand English and what past, present and future means or you are just too lazy or indifferent to watch the video?

Either way, you are right smack in the middle of your false reality. Perhaps you will wake up one day, perhaps

Dutch author Jens Jorgen Nielsen gets it; celebrated Austrian athlete,Felix Baumgartner gets it; the Czech president, Viktor Orban, gets it; former UK Ambasador to Syria Peter Ford gets it; the incumbent German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier gets it; former German Chancellor, Gehard Shroeder gets it; Ex French Foreign Minister, Roland Dumas, gets it; U.S. Congresswoman Tulsi Gobbard, gets it; Senator Dick Black gets it; an ever increasing number of parliamentarians in Franc, Germany, Italy, Greece and other balanced European states get it; Paul Craig Roberts gets it. So does Stephen Lendman, Stephen Cohen, Noam Chomsky, Oliver Stone and Ron Paul - and so many others. Even - as much as I hate to say it - Donald Trump gets it. Are all these people full of hate for Amerika?



What do all these people have in common? They have either pointed their fingers at Amerika and its closest allies as the chief facilitators of Al-Qaeda and a myriad of terror groups. They have either accused Amerika of intentionally destabilizing Europe and bringing it to the brink of nuclear war with Russia as a result of Amerika's reckless policies and arrogance.



Are they nothing but paid Kremlin trolls and Putin bots? I can only pray that the remaining folks that are in a slumber or brainwashed into delusion or are in denial also get it.... We can only pray.

Meanwhile the reasonable ones have no desire to be turned to radioactive ash.



[size=18pt]German minister warns Nato against 'warmongering'[/size]



Frank-Walter Steinmeier warned Nato against enflaming tensions with Russia
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has warned Nato against "warmongering", after it conducted military exercises in Eastern Europe.

Mr Steinmeier said that extensive Nato manoeuvres launched this month were counterproductive to regional security and could inflame tensions with Russia.

He urged the Nato military alliance to replace the exercises with more dialogue and co-operation with Russia.

Nato has carried out a 10-day exercise simulating a Russian attack on Poland.

The drill, which ended on Friday, involved about 31,000 troops, as well as fighter jets, ships and 3,000 vehicles.

Russia has been strengthening its military presence near its borders. In February it held a combat-readiness exercise involving 8,500 troops in a southern region near areas of eastern Ukraine held by pro-Russian rebels.

In 2013, Russian jets staged a simulated attack on the Swedish capital Stockholm.

'Do not create pretexts'

"What we shouldn't do now is inflame the situation further through sabre-rattling and warmongering," Mr Steinmeier said in an interview to be published in Germany's Bild am Sontag newspaper.

"Whoever believes that a symbolic tank parade on the alliance's eastern border will bring security is mistaken.

"We are well-advised to not create pretexts to renew an old confrontation," he said, adding that it would be "fatal to search only for military solutions and a policy of deterrence".

The exercise in Poland, which takes place every two years, was intended to test Nato's ability to respond to threats, and to allay fears in eastern Europe since Russia's annexation of Crimea.

Nato spokesperson Oana Lungescu said the alliance's actions were "defensive, proportionate, and in line with our international commitments".

She said the alliance had maintained dialogue with Russia through the Nato-Russia Council, although practical co-operation had been suspended, following the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

In an interview with the Bild newspaper on Thursday, Nato Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said Russia was seeking to create "a zone of influence through military means", with "massive militarisation" at Nato borders.

Russia has repeatedly said that the presence of Nato troops near its borders is a threat to its security.

In other news; for you military afficionados and arm chair Generals:

https://southfront.org/russia-defense-report-pak-fa-nearing-service-entry/

Perhaps Minister should wait till next year and acquire some of these in place of those F-35s which in his own words, "Do not work"

Oh yes, The United States of Amerika is indeed the world's only superpower. Was this ever in doubt? Did anyone state otherwise?
The United States of Amerika wields considerable military power and soft power - soft power in political influence (and subversions and destabilizations) across the globe; it's consumer targeted technological products in tandem with a formidable marketing machine; its ubiquitous mass media and "Amerikan culture" thanks to institutions such as Hollywood and its music industry; its educational institutions; and so forth.

However, I can't help but think Putin's remarks was flattery especially if you consider that this same superpower in the person of Amerika sees Russia as an "existential threat"

More so, Putin's statements were made in a humiliating response to a Washington foreign policy twerp, Fareed Zakharia who like many of his colleagues had tried to in the past, paint Putin in a bad light - as my Amerikan counterparts would say, put him on the spot.

But as satisfying as this is to watch at face value, it also teaches us something else...

Look at the intellectual disparity between Russia's leadership and Washington's policymakers. Yes, Amerika has immense power, but it has people completely out of touch with reality wielding it.

This is precisely what happened with the Roman Empire - an elite who no longer lived or worked in the real world, trying to conquer leaders and nations who did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avBAT6Op0lU

Trudeau is indeed right. This pan doesn't work

scully95:
Still thinking where the pretext would come from to drag Russia this time..

Just wondering, and thinking. I can bet these crooks are so hungary for blood and they will get in in full.

I have been wondering myself. I'm willing to bet that the false flag would be staged in Syria. Apart from the ample amount of Islamist cannon fodder to be utilized, there has been an increase in Western special forces there and besides, it's in line with most prophecies as to where WWIII will start from.

They are indeed desperate for that war. The investigation into MH17 for instance is a farce they can't keep with for much longer. They will have to come clean if Russia continues being patient

I believe Finland is ripe for a colour revolution. How dare they?!



[size=18pt]Finland would rather be friends with Russia than members of NATO -- President Sauli Niinistö[/size]

[img]http://1.bp..com/-LOnRB7JqakI/V1dTHzy9SSI/AAAAAAAACss/d7NyyzJ1nkUl3UVLlersOTw4mixvuJQmACLcB/s1600/1016525397.jpg[/img]
Vladimir Putin, president of Russian Federation with Sauli Niinistö, president of Finland
Sputnik France, May 1, 2016

Translated from French by Tom Winter, June 7, 2016

After the warning from Moscow that Russia will respond with military and technical measures at its northern borders if Sweden decides to join the Atlantic Alliance, Finland, for its part, rejected the idea of joining NATO.

Commenting on a report by an international group of experts on the possible integration of Finland to NATO, President Sauli Niinistö was against any membership, reports Finnish media YLE . "We do not need to change the current policy," said M. Niinisto in an interview with YLE media.

Nevertheless, as every country has the right to decide for itself according to its national interests what form of security is best for the state, the president said it was probably just to ask the people, by means of a referendum.

Sauli Niinistö also said that Helsinki and Stockholm were to make that decision separately. "We have no automatic reciprocal link on this where, if one country decides to join the Alliance, the other must immediately do the same (...) Each country is responsible for its. decision on NATO," said President Niinisto.

Sauli Niinistö made this statement after the recent warning from the the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that Russia would take adequate measures if Finland's neighbor, Sweden, joined the Alliance. **

Although the Russian minister has said that Russia does not think the Swedes will attack once they have decided to join NATO, Finland has chosen not to poison its relations with its neighbor and partner."They (Russia) do not want the threat approaching their borders," said the President of Finland, who had already mentioned that Russia was a key partner for Finland. This was in his New Years speech, when Sauli Niinistö said that Russian-Finnish relations were among the priorities for his country's foreign policy.

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Read about Lavrov's warning here.

Zoharariel:
Amerika & NATO seem to be paying less attention to Russia's ultimate defense, otherwise known as “The Perimetr System”

Even if the entire Russian leadership is killed in a first strike, the “Perimetr System” known as the “Dead Hand” will automatically launch enough nukes to wipe Amerika off the political map.

The purpose of the “Dead Hand System” is to maintain a second strike capability by ensuring that the destruction of the Russian leadership will not prevent her military from releasing its weapons.

I don't think the Generals at the Pentagon fingering the brain of Obama & pushing for a first strike option against Russia understand that the “Perimetr System” will dispatch retaliatory nuclear strikes even if the command & communication lines of Russia's strategic missile forces are totally destroyed.

Alas! The fruition of Alois Irlmaier's scary prophecy about ww3 is almost within reach.

“Everything calls peace. Shalom! Then it will occur – a new Middle East war suddenly flares up, big naval forces are facing hostility in the Mediterranean – the situation is strained. But the actual firing spark is set on fire in the Balkans: I see a ‘large one’ falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him -then impact is on impact. Two men kill a third high-ranked. They were paid by other people. One of the murderers is a small black man, the other a little bit taller, with bright-colored hair. I think it will be at the Balkans, but I cannot say it exactly. […] Immediately the revenge comes from across the large water.

However the yellow dragon invades in Alaska and Canada at the same time. But he comes not far. And then it rains a yellow dust in a line.

When the golden city is destroyed, it begins…

The “Great City” of the United States will be destroyed by rockets, and the West Coast will be invaded by Asians, but they will be beaten back…”

He also added: “The Third World War will come, but I cannot predict the year. It will be preceded by signs in the skies, which will be seen by millions of people. War will begin on a rainy night, shortly before harvest time, when the ears are full….”


Picture: In peacetime, Perimetr is dormant but continues, however, to analyze incoming information.

I have seen the image of Alois Irlmaier on several sites not knowing who he was in till you posted this. Interesting I must say

Absolutely, unspeakably tragic. She needs all the strength that she can garner to bear this great loss. Very sad indeed