Rozcol:
Which hole did you crawl out from,your comment shows lack of understanding and comprehension, pay me to elaborate more.I'm a fan of redpill but only the true redpill where it's a win win situation for both men and women. Stop demonizing women for redpill.By the way there's a rule here about me,go find out.

You're being patronising, demonstrating exactly what's being preached against here.

Talking down at men in general unless they're alphas.

The problem with you guys is you learn literally without internal probing.

I'm certainly not going to go any extra mile in terms of fitness or whatnot to please any mothafckn woman.

I do me , you don't like, you can get the fck out. It's that simple and no long theories needed. ..

Rozcol:
You are so right that's why I always tell them here that most of them truly don't understand their own redpill.A productive man is a redpiller, a disciplined man is a redpiller (not the ones who sex around), a strict and upright man with principle is a redpiller, you ain't a redpiller if you find it hard taming a woman no matter how difficult and stubborn the woman is,you aint a redpiller if you can't get your woman into shape and shaped her into the kind of woman you want her to become, you ain't a redpiller if women don't melt and desire you at sight(orobo redpillers should take note).The true redpillers here no reach five.

Essentially redpillers are there for female pleasure?

How deluded are you?

By the way these redpill headache only applies in Nigeria because of hungry poverty stricken women who have turned sex into a transactional affair.

In other environments, i have seen broke ugly black dude's bag blondes.

Infact the most beautiful European girls , go for ugly, can't explain why.

Only in Nigeria will a fat hungry girl desire an alpha with bucks.

You guys don't know you're bottom tier when it comes to beauty, you're extremely lucky Nigeria is insulated and men have very few options, which is why any girl that is remotely hot think's she's a goddess.

TempUser:
OK but that last point is irrelevant.

Not everyone wants to be rich. Se are contented with their peace of mind.

Last point is the heaviest.

Marriage can change your destiny , especially when you're not ready and if unlucky to be with the wrong person, just consider your life over.

The playbook is playing .

99 percent sex , 1 percent smarts.

It's going to spread .. after a total collapse , you will revisit this alarmist comments.

Simple referendum to fix?

Dialogue?

Constitutional amendment?

So many options other than violence..

Yep , very flirtatious air trip.. plenty vibes, number exchanged but led no where .

The lines between igbos and Yorubas will become so thin that both tribes will eventually vanish into each other unless the country breaks up.

Congrats to them.

Not fully evolved, that's why.

These people ain't fully evolved yet, hence the many troubles.

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Great content. Subd

Todays adults never really grew up before they had children.

Daddy is watching soapy video's secretly on the phone , mummy is chatting some random freak up, children are being indoctrinated by leftist media on tik tok etc.

As messed up as our ancestors were, they left us traditional values, we have nothing to leave for the coming generation.

Na joke's oh.

DEMZEE:


Is it all of them that are educated??

It's not just about the education, it's the tone and direction set by the elites and educated.

As rural urban migration continues, with social media influence, you'd see the spread of leftist ideals even in parts of Nigeria you wouldn't have expected.

We aren't going to wake up to it, it'll happen slowly, and if you look well at today's society, it's easy to tell where we are headed.

I'd like for others to contribute, so that the discussions can be balanced.

Anyone who feels like continuing the discussions should use real life examples specific to Nigeria.

DEMZEE:


The south will hold cos the Yoruba and igbo cultures are patriarchal

Until you observe how the new generation of Yorubas and Igbo men think.

DEMZEE:


Baba Nigeria will forever b patriarchal unless we don't have Islam and the north again.

Again sef gynocentrism works wen there's wealth in the land not wen there's extreme poverty in the land especially in Nigeria currently. U people are just something else is it that u want it to happen by force ni think!!!!!!

WTF!!!!!

Wealth in the hands of liberals cause's gynocentrism not just wealth by itself.

This is what I see , the North will barely hold, the south won't.

Just my observation from the current trends.

JESHAL:




Masculine= order
Feminine= chaos

Patriachy is a path towards the goal, women are meant to be conditioned to embrace raw feminity and only Patriachal societies encourages these, sure men built civilization by logic, creative intuition, intellectual curiosity and deductive reasoning creating technologies and inventions that improved society, strong leadership and good governance is a fundamental requirement for any society to prosper and having strong ethical and moral values is good for civilization, tradition and religion ensures these, not denying that hypocrisy doesn't exist in Patriachal Societies(Arab and African Societies) but it's not the norms unlike in Western gynocentric Societies, where it's their norms, statistics show low birth rates, low marital rates, increase in children born out of wedlock, increase in single motherhood, 50% divorce rate and women initiating 70-80% of the divorce, all these show moral and social decadence via the destruction of family units which leads to the decline of civilization in such Societies

For patriarchy to work , society need's certain criteria.

Religious beliefs that support patriachy

Wealth, to sustain the masculine provider image

Fear and punishment

Rejection of western ideals.

How exactly will patriarchy work in a state like Nigeria, where southerners are literally begging for western ideals and poverty is rife through out the country?

JESHAL:



It's the mentality of the citizens in a society, look at UAE,Qatar, Oman, Kuwait these are core Islamic Patriachal monarchies

Remember
Gynocentrism is antithetical to Patriachy, one must dominate the other in a Societies Culture

In Arab societies Patriachy prevails
In Western Societies gynocentrism prevails

Only in Patriachal Societies can women become more traditional because they are not brainwashed and indoctrinated by ideological dogma of Egalitarianistic-Equalism through Feminism

Bad leadership is responsible for Africans woes not polygamy, as Prosperous Arab societies led by patriachs debunk the myth of polygamy causing poverty

The Patriachy I advocate for is for high valued men with socio-economic status, I'm considering the poor men with many wives struggling

True..but I never said polygamy is the problem, just saying it's not the goal.

Like I said the goal is "order", when society has strong fundamentals, everything else falls in place.

Patriarchy isn't sufficient, fundamentals are.

JESHAL:




Traditional conservatives, liberal and Progressive men in western societies are mostly Simps and Betas, even so-called redpiilers, they disguise with the redpill praxeology but deny the raw masculinity of Patriachy and some even believe it's oppressive and tyrannical following the Feminist propaganda misrepresenting the past and demonizing and tagging my forefathers and ancestors as evil, wicked, villians restricting women and hindering their progress via religion and tradition, it was traditional conservatives that passed the most gynocentric laws like legalizing Abortion and also changes in marital and divorce laws to "protect women"

Patriachs want to fundamentally ensure order in civilization by controlling women's innate chaos(Hypergamy) whether they agree on not , young children don't question thier parents decisions same way women don't question Patriachs, Tradcons want to protect (not control ) women because they think women are vulnerable ,they are easily manipulated by women to do their bidding even to their detriments


Note:
Traditional conservativism is not Patriachy

Most tradcons believe in Christian monogamy and follow the one-titis soul mate bluepilled conditioning, they don't subscribe to spinning plates too calling it fornication, but Patriachs openly buy polygamy because it fundamentally recognizes that to be successfully monogamous you must be an high valued man with socio-economic status have strong frame , Abundance mindset and even having good social and sexual game, only few men attain these height and the ones that are mostly betas with financial IQ but they know nothing about women and end up monogamous and in the long run divorced in gynocentric Societies like Bill Gates, Bezos and Elon Musk

Patriachs fundamentally know they are the prize and they have pools of options before and during marriage and they create competitive anxiety among their spouses who will fight to win the affection of the Patriach over

What delights a Patriach is primarily achieving his purpose and reaching his potential and not his wives beauty or pussies but their fertility , their ability to give him SONS, these would please his heart and Soul

A Patriach is worshipped and pedestalized by women, he's like a "god" not a "King" in the midst of Men, he's the perfection of Alpha fvcks and Beta Bucks
in one Man

The goal for traditionalist's is all about order and self preservation.(in the case of westerner's.. to retain power).

Having the sheer ability of demonstrated raw masculinity by having several partners achieves very little.

Have you not seen pauper's with several wives in Nigeria?

The Idea is to be able to keep women in check, whether you're a patriarch or not.

Understanding the nature of women does very little if there's no collective effort to sanitise knowing how fickle they are, meaning women can be lead if men truly desire it.

To simplify, the more traditional the women are the better it is for society.

BLOODYSPERM:
Redpill is a term that stems from the movie: The Matrix. It is a term used to identify with the core truth that has been ensconced from the larger population in all facets of life. The matrix is the society we find ourselves. Things are not going the way we want, but because these things has been shaped by the society, we think they are right and accurate in their operations. It is a lie! A facade! The truth on how things ought to operate has been bastardized by the government, top elites, and other rapacious individuals for their own gains. This gave rise to the Redpill.

From the movie, Morpheus offered Neo two pills; Redpill and Bluepill. The redpill exposes the truth and will make him see reality for what it is if he swallows it, while the Bluepill: will make him remain in his ideal "wonderland" state.

The term redpill is mostly associated with the intersexual dynamics, albeit, it spreads and cut across: Religion, Politics, Science, Economics, Education, Health, Philosophy etc. The redpill also exposes the truth in all these areas without excluding; the intersexual dynamics.
The government and elites knows this; the reason they raise all forms of altercations to stultify and peter out the redpill. So, from the movie, the redpill takes its roots and not from racism and white supremacy: another false anecdote sponsored by those against the redpill.

In regards to the intersexual dynamics as a subset of the redpill;
1. INCELS(Involuntary celibates): do not know the concepts of the redpill; Game, PUA and seduction, and therefore become celibates because they don't know how women operates, how to engage women, and probably have sex with them. Their lack of knowledge makes them incels. If they have the knowledge and understand and still chooses to do nothing but prefers their blue pill state; they have fallen into the blackpill state.

2. MGTOW(Men going their own way): has discovered the true nature of women through the knowledge of the redpill but decides not to commit into a long term intersexual relationship or totally stay off women----MGTOW MONKS. No long term relationship for them because the burden of marriage is great, and leading a family is not a day job, and not to mention; the great legal consequences against them when the relationship hits the rock or crumbled by an asteroid.

3. AWALT(All women are like that): women are solipsistic, machiavellians, hypergamous, it is their inherent nature based on their neurological, biological, chemical, psychological and evolutionary make up. These behaviours are the same for every woman in all cultures, regions and nations, and also based on observations and pattern recognition. All women has tendency to act according to these inherent nature but on different frequencies, circumstances and situations. For example;
1. It is manipulation when a mother persuade her son to eat by dangling a toy before his eyes, and also complains or shed tears to get any resource from her spouse.

2. It is still hypergamy if a woman; has sex with one man before marriage, or another girl; multiple sex partners before marriage.

Same principle but different situations and frequencies.

OUTLIERS: Traditional conservative(Tradcon) women: our mothers and grandmothers has the same inherent nature. But what made them not to really express it is as a result of the following:

1. Strong moral background.
2. Strong religious background.
3. Strong patriarchial background.
4. Strong cultural background and traditional values.
5. Not expose enough.
6. Shame.
7. Implications of such inherent traits if not well handled.
8. Waited for the right time to explore or no time at all.

[b]White supremacy has nothing to do with the redpill [/b]intersexual dynamics, and anytime you hear redpill on nairaland or the romance section, we're talking about how the redpill; concerns men and women, how they can use its amoral knowledge to better their relationship and become compatible in order to raise quality children: this is the redpill intersexual dynamics.

The redpill: is amoral, only informs you about the truth and not responsible for any action you decide to take from the knowledge you harvested from it. So, take whatever will work for you in the long run, and jettison the others.

#Redpill is not nonsense.


cc CaveAdullam

The redpill in it's extreme form has a lot to do with white supremacy bro.

I stay away from too much theories and book's but use observation and experience when drawing conclusions.

The redpill for a white supremacist means, let's wake up our women to preserve our race.

The white woman has been portrayed as the epitome of beauty which every single race desires, what this means is that in a liberal state, more and more non White's will pro create with white women leading to a decline in the population of the white race.

Intersexual dynamics has a lot to do with self preservation, don't you think?


For instance, why are we so scared of bad manipulative liberal feminist women?

True hardcore redpillers subscribe to tradcon women, infact there are actually movements where hardcore redpillers are building with tradcon women groups.

OdudwaR:


The problem with a lot of them is that they’re used to being in servitude/slavery to their Fulani overlords and they’d rather keep praying for hope than seek freedom which comes with an unknown. They know Nigeria is the worst you can ever ask for but they’re too cowardly to try the unknown.

This also happened during slavery. Slavery would’ve ended long before it did. But most slaves were comfortable in being slaves than trying the unknown. And even when some slaves make plans to escape, most would reject and report the plans to the slave masters.

It’s mostly a black thing. Black people generally lack fighting spirit once they feel they have been subdued by a powerful force. This trait is what separates black people from other races. Other races are too aggressive for servitude hence all the revolutionary movements that have happened in history happened everywhere else except on the African continent.

Imagine calling a man who’s risking everything to fight a worthy cause and save his people from servitude an illiterate. But be comfortable in a country ruled by an illiterate walking corpse that has given all the sensitive posts in government to his illiterate Fulani brothers and sisters. And it’s so bad that even cows are now more valuable than humans.

Let’s even scratch everything I posted above. How can an ethnic group of just 6million uncivilized people who are foreigners be lording over a country of over 200million people and threatening everyone? If this doesn’t make these cretins sick to their stomachs, I don’t know what would.

Too much wisdom!

AlphaAlex:
lol see this one who said you should sleep with your family members is that your secret fantasy? I don’t see where anybody said such .

Keep your sexual fantasies to yourself, as far as I'm concerned, sexual fantasies shouldn't be mainstream culture, which is what some of you lunatics are trying to achieve.

Have bigger ambitions as a man than screaming about sex all over the place and calling people who don't fit your world view hypocrites.

dragunov:


You're right. The entertainment industry and the Church leaders are the major culprits. Infact, they have become intertwined.

You know what's funny, this is the playbook for blacks globally.

They begin by copying westerner's and always shoot themselves in the foot .

Somebody should tell blacks, you can't copy the white man's worst behaviour and expect to become like him.

AlphaAlex:
If y’all know how often things like this happen in this world you would not even consider this one to be special , but that’s a story for another day y’all hypocrites should keep criticising some of y’all have nastier fantasies.

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Do you understand what hypocrisy means?

Like wtf, we are hypocrites for not engaging in sex with our families members.

You sound retarded.

dragunov:


You know, at times I just can't help but think that perhaps we deserve the great evil that is coming to us from the Fulani Caliphate and their terrorist allies. We are already far away from God. Therefore, we are already exposed. Except we repent.

It's not too late to get back on track.

All it will take is a few good men and women to put their foot down and say enough is enough.

The delicate line between hedonism and doing what is right won't allow them to act.

Another thing I've noticed, bad behaviour spreads like wildfire in Nigeria, one person does it expect a thousand more .

Which means we're are doomed as more and more degenerate ideals filters into society the more animalistic we become.

Nigeria is morally decadent and pretending to be religious.

The men are unmotivated to curb the decadence because they low key enjoy it.

It will get to a point where people will say don't touch any naija girl because they're beast's.

This is an attack on the global perception of what a Nigerian woman represents.

As for naira, can you blame him, Nigerians gave him a platform and the females enjoy his songs where he displays them to the world as low quality promiscuous beings.

In the end, the biggest loser's will be the Nigerian kid as they have no role models to look forward to.

Fabulous.

Two consenting adults, no?

I don tire for naija matter, will delete this account soon.

dettolgel:


you don't need IMEI to create a database

Lol , create? How..

Data collection for identification. It could be any type of data.

seunlayi:
you know useless is your name. Do you think govt don't have other means of getting it? Why defending our lazy security agencies? Arresting before allegations

Which other means?

You need a comprehensive database to catch criminals.

Case in point they found that recent serial killers info on nairaland.

You want them to stick to the brutish time wasting strategies which isn't working as you can see.

Abeg you people don't want the country to work.

Watch them complain about the kidnapping, yet they don't want a database.
Very useless people.

SegFault:

Then you as parents should start teaching individual ideals to your kids. If a child knows who he is and has created an identity and values for themselves would they destroy their dignities on the cyberspace, I will continually blame the parents for not being closer to their kids and no one else. I learnt this late in life but I'm glad that I did.

Humans are more fickle than this, young minds are easily mislead despite ingrained values, poverty and greed makes it worse.

Let's all speak with one voice and say no to bad influencer's, including bad parents.

Essentially why i hate single mother's because their kid's... Hmm

WesternOligarch:


This is full of so many falsehoods.....

You can condition yourself to act according to your principles and morals despite your immediate environment, Laban was found holy despite the fact that his immediate environment was sodom and gomorrah, in this same Nigeria young people are using the internet to create value, just as you have nairamarley on twitter you also have the likes of fela durotoye, young people with quality content, access to billions of free educative content ever recorded in human history, and opportunities that have made wealth for individuals, don't blame to the tool, blame the the user.

It takes communities to raise a child but communities are made up of families, if the family is broken there's nothing the community can really do.

The government usually steps in, social commentators , researchers etc will chip in to understand the issues and make recommendations.

In our case, we have none of these , yet we can't simply agree to what's acceptable behaviour.

You can see we are headed for doom.