na wah oooooooo

4Him can you contact me on my mail address there a few things I want to say to you. I need to talk to you direct if you can then contact me on mails4sam@gmail.com

A_K_O:

4Him you mentioned something about God's prosperity not being measured by money. Let me hust share my own perspective.

There is prosperity from God that is material. Definately. Cant remember exactly where, but somewhere in the NT, Jesus says that you (us men) being evil, when our children ask for bread we wont give them stone or when they ask for fish we wont give them serpent, that how much more shall our heavenly Father give good things to them that ask.
You will agree with me that fish and bread are material things, so we could conclude that the good things Jesus mentions border around material things; how much more shall God give 'fish' and 'bread' to them that ask,

A_K_O this is the same extra-biblical twaddle that i will continually speak against. Not everything in the bible can and shld be twisted to read pecuniary blessings. Fish and Bread in the verse you quoted shld not be read literarily if not will God give us only Sardines and Agege Bread when we pray?

What really are "good things"? Are spiritual growth, more selflessness, increased Zeal to preach the word, more annointing . . . not "good things" because they dont necessarily translate to material "blessings"?

Look at this interesting verse: James 4: 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

What does it mean to ask amiss?

Look at this one too - 1 John 5: 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

What does it mean to "ask according to His will"? Do we know His will?

Pls think on these things.

4Him:

Mr. Skyope . . . if not that i'm at work i almost wanted to give u a standing ovation for bringing out this oh so uncomfortable truth! Like i said earlier . . . can you imagine King Herod sitting in the front row during Apostle Paul's ministry?

David I think it is your style of writting that some people don't find comfortable with. You always hit it so hard with humour.

A_K_O:

However, some of these adversities were deliberately allowed by God to teach them certain lessons; certain things can't be done the easy way eg if Paul was self reliant and always comfortabe, he probably would not have appreciated and penned down Phil 4:19, my God SHALL supply all my needs,

Do those "needs" only start and end with money?

youngies:

David I think it is your style of writting that some people don't find comfortable with. You always hit it so hard with humour.

my brother, i dont know how else to make people open their eyes and READ THE BIBLE instead of swallowing everything "papa" says hook, line and sinker.

Those guys don't know what they just did, they should have taken que from the last set of robbers that went there, Papa said they were all going to die within 7 days and it happened as said, Well i don't know if he has said anything concerning these ones but I'm too sure that their end will be in the next couple of weeks, too bad for them, next time dem no go go God land go try thief,

omoashion:

Those guys don't know what they just did, they should have taken que from the last set of robbers that went there, Papa said they were all going to die within 7 days and it happened as said, Well i don't know if he has said anything concerning these ones but I'm too sure that their end will be in the next couple of weeks, too bad for them, next time them no go go God land go try thief,

yet more extra-biblical nonsense. Since when did "papa" assume the throne of God to be able to pronounce curses at whoever he likes?

Do you remember the thief on the cross?

while WE were yet sinners Christ died for the ungodly . . . what if Christ had just cursed us to die within 7 days?

omoashion:

Those guys don't know what they just did, they should have taken que from the last set of robbers that went there, Papa said they were all going to die within 7 days and it happened as said, Well i don't know if he has said anything concerning these ones but I'm too sure that their end will be in the next couple of weeks, too bad for them, next time them no go go God land go try thief,

I don't think this is true, but if it is, that your papa should be arrested immediately and charged with culpable homicide or at best extra judicial killing. He is a common murderer QED.

When some kids taunted elijah in d bible, what did he do? He cursed them and a bear came out and ate them, Don't mess with a man of God. He has done it b4 for people who stole during shiloh and some of the stories were sad, The thief in the bible showed remorse. These guys didn't so whatever happens to them was caused by them, My guy sha no go mess wit man of God make im curse u cos it's irreversible, Plain Advice OOOO ABEG NO TRY AM I KNO WHAT AM SAYIN

Such a pitiful sight. "Bishop worshipping" Psssssstttt!!!

omoashion:

When some kids taunted elijah in d bible, what did he do? He cursed them and a bear came out and ate them, Don't mess with a man of God. He has done it before for people who stole during shiloh and some of the stories were sad, The thief in the bible showed remorse. These guys didn't so whatever happens to them was caused by them, My guy sha no go mess wit man of God make im curse u because it's irreversible, Plain Advice OOOO ABEG NO TRY AM I KNO WHAT AM SAYIN

nonsense. Please the man of God is NOT God, enough of this elevating a mere mortal to the position of one who is able to have power over life and death.
I don't see anyone say "don't mess with God" . . . its all about the "man of God" . . . that my brother is idol worship in its purest form.

Elisha cursed those children . . . please show me where else another "man of God" went about cursing.
Christ was flogged, spat upon, slapped and humiliated . . . please show me where he cursed them all to die within 7 days.
Paul was flogged several times . . . show me where he cursed them.
If Paul and Silas had cursed their jailor they would not have had the opportunity to minister to him and his family.

You say the thief on the cross showed remorse . . . all well and good . . . but did WE (sinners) show any remorse before Christ came to bleed on the cross for our sins?

No where in the bible are we told that the curses of a man of God are irreversible . . . that is plain nonsense neither do you know what u are saying. Only God's words are irreversible!

@omoashion

Sorry sir, it is Elisha not Elijah; I think this is one of the reason why you guys are at cross with 4Him.
Do you guys know about the Berean Christians. I learnt tey were more honourable because they go back to the book to check if it were so. DON"T BE GULLIBLE.

Youngies, abeg no kill me with laughter, sometimes it pains me  to see people refuse to reason for themselves and turn some men of God into something they are not.
I always say these are just man and they could be robbed like anyone as long as we do not improve the security in our Nation, some time ago Adeboye was robbed.
People should stop sinning against God by sharing his Glory with mere men. I don run comot for here before they demand for my head for hanging. To clear all doubts, I am a Christain A card Carrying Member of ECWA, so I am not a Moslem oh. I am just a realistic christain, ho reads the bible for herself, i no need man of god to remix my Bible for me

Make una see wetin Ashaby write:

HI NLANDERS,
I was in church i.e canaanland y'day, and believe u me. Bishop Oyedepo did what was contrary to everyone's expectation. He just declared a praise galore saying the devil is a liar. What with the recent pronoucement in the Guiness book of World records that winners chapel is the biggest church building in the whole wide world.

So my advice is this, stop criticizing any and every one. DO SOMETHING TO PUT THE NAME OF UR COUNTRY ON EAGLES WINGS. CIAO

LMAO! Is this why Christ called us to Himself? Is this why He died on the cross of calvalry? That we may enter the guiness book of records?

Luke 10: 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.

For heaven sake how many times do we have to drum
it into the ears of people to avoid talking carelessly about men of God
[color=#000099]God said touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm.
You dont have any right judging them or anybody, leave them to God
He knows those who are truly serving Him and those who are not
And for those guys that went to canaanland , stole and killed innocent souls, forget it no sinner will go unpunish!
Even when they repent and God forgives, they would still bear the consequence of their sins
Dat thief on the cross actuallly repented and Jesus forgave him but he still paid with his dear life
Where is the fear of God?
And those of you who claimed that churches should not have this or that as if the land and the fullness thereof
does not belong to God. If every good thing of life belongs to our father and we cant enjoy those things are we not bastards? Since we are not bastards but children of God the commander of the whole unverse then
we have 100% right to enjoy those things. Why should I leave my inheritance for the people of the world
Please dont blame the church we deserve it all[/color]

What will happen if there rubbers that invaded canaanland appear in church and confess to the robbery but promised to give their lives to Christ, will they be forgiven and accepted to the body of Christ? What is your oppinion?

weebee, sorry i had to laugh so hard while reading your post.

weebee:

For heaven sake how many times do we have to drum
it into the ears of people to avoid talking carelessly about men of God
God said touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm.

How many times have we misquoted this verse to say what it does not mean. Here is the verse - Ps 105: 15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
BUT who was this verse refering to? All "men of God"? No ma, please read the preceeding verses . . . it was CLEARLY refering to God's warning to the kings and other nations that the Jews had to pass through on their journey through Egypt unto the promised land . . . please read verses 13-14.

Interesting that NO other biblical prophet used this verse to hide from criticism neither is such found anywhere in the new testament. Please see this link for better understanding.

weebee:

You don't have any right judging them or anybody, leave them to God

neither does your "man of Gawd" have any right to curse any armed robber to die within 7days . . . why not leave them to God? Do as i say come to mind here?

weebee:

And for those guys that went to canaanland , stole and killed innocent souls, forget it no sinner will go unpunish!

Including you? Romans 3: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

weebee:

Even when they repent and God forgives, they would still bear the consequence of their sins
Dat thief on the cross actuallly repented and Jesus forgave him but he still paid with his dear life
Where is the fear of God?

Hopefully you are preparing to bear the consequences of your sins with your life?

weebee:

And those of you who claimed that churches should not have this or that as if the land and the fullness thereof
does not belong to God.

Maybe Jesus Christ could not remember this verse Himself . . . Luke 9: 58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

weebee:

If every good thing of life belongs to our father and we can't enjoy those things are we not bastards? Since we are not bastards but children of God the commander of the whole unverse then
we have 100% right to enjoy those things. Why should I leave my inheritance for the people of the world
Please don't blame the church we deserve it all

Certainly ma! Please do not consider going in the rapture . . . u shl dnot leave your "inheritance" for the people of the world.

I think it is high time we change our orientation to life.
We all (Politicians, traditional rulers, civil servants, business men, worker, employers, force men and women, pastors, imams, unemployed, students etc) should search our consciences and appraise ourselves if actually we are doing the right thing.

Robbery is one of the oldest crime in the world today, but for arm robbers to take their activities into house of God is something that prick my heart.

Does it mean that they don’t fear the wrath of God anymore, or they capitalize of the fact that our God is merciful GOD, or they have made up their mind for "nothing dey happen".?
There is wickedness in our land, and we all in one way or the other have contributed or encourage it. ( i guess you know, but if you wish ask my how?)

How would GOD look at this rubbers? they have sinned . the rubbery spirit in them lead them to doing it.
How would God look at us all? is there something that we still keep on doing even though God's frowns at it?
He is stole N500 and the robbers/politicians that stole millions of naira will face the same penalty from God.

Lets us all pray them(robbers) , ourselves and this country that God should remove that bad spirit that keep pushing us to do those thing that is not pleasant and for him to heal our land.

Finally, The church should channel his resources towards putting smiles on people' faces. let them cater for God's children since government have failed in their primary responsibility. I want to see churches taken over the economic empire of this country not for the sole aim of making profit but helping the less privilege who cannot even afford government established business.

May God help us all

Papito:

Finally, The church should channel his resources towards putting smiles on people' faces. let them cater for God's children since government have failed in their primary responsibility. I want to see churches taken over the economic empire of this country not for the sole aim of making profit but helping the less privilege who cannot even afford government established business.

May God help us all

That is what the church is already doing by:

1. building the biggest auditorium and entering into the Guinness Book of records instead of Book of Life.

2. building schools and making sure that no children of the poor is able to afford it

3. also going into real estate business (renting and leasing properties to banks and restaurants)

4. Don't forget they are also neck deep in aviation and the oil sector.

What other aspect of the "economic empire" of this country haven't they covered?

Please go take your coffee before it gets cold 

hmmm! wonders shall never end so much misrepesentatations and gullibility.
Get wisdom get understanding!
Stealing is bad wherever it happened. There is no greater or smaller sin,
as sin will lead anybody to hell whoever you are.
4Him is making sense.

youngies:

That is what the church is already doing by:

1. building the biggest auditorium and entering into the Guinness Book of records instead of Book of Life.

2. building schools and making sure that no children of the poor is able to afford it

3. also going into real estate business (renting and leasing properties to banks and restaurants)

4. Don't forget they are also neck deep in aviation and the oil sector.

What other aspect of the "economic empire" of this country haven't they covered?

Please go take your coffee before it gets cold

The Church has lost its use in our society

bibiking1:

The Church has lost its use in our society

Not really, but some of them have lost direction. They have twisted the word of God to justify their greed. Worst still they embarked on a brain washing stance of their follwers - making themselves demigods.

@4Him,

this discussion has progresseed too far that I cannot possibly attend to all the issues raised with my time limitations. However, let me point out some salient points which I believe you should really give attention to.

1. Your argument is based on discernment of the heart of those you are accusing. With that, you have entered into the realm that is exclusively preserved for God. You make categorical statement that cannot and should never come out unless backed up with facts and figures which you have certainbly not provided. Accusing those who are rich of self-agrandisement when you do not know their hearts is sickening. You declare that they are not doing enough for the poor and I cannot but ask you if you know how much they give to the poor on a regular basis. Failur to present such facts make you appear unserious.

2. This argument reminds me of what Jesus said in Matthew 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. 19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children. We can clearly see that deprivation or otherwise is not the mark of godliness. Relative to Jesus, John the baptist denied himself but this never kept people from criticising both of them. So you see, it isn't the lack or abundance that matters but in doing God's will. The question I need you to answer is this: Are these people using the tools of money and wealth that God has blessed them with to propagate the Gospel or just for their persoal consumption?

3. You also need to clarify if prosperity include fianacial and material increase. I briefly read your argument with someone saying prosperity is not measured in material count. While this is not so for prosperity in the general sense, it is so for prosperity in the material sense. Go back to Abraham, Job, David, Solomon etc and see if God didn't put a count on their material blessings as a means of declaring how much He has blessed them. Need example in the NT? Here it is: Mark 10:29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. Please how do you read this passage? Jesus said in this lifetime we will receive houses and lands if we gave them up for Him. And yes, there is the persecution that comes with it. By this, I am not surprised by your persecution of these people who are fulfilling the scriptures by receiving from God more of what they gave up, while you are fulfilling scripture also by being the persecutor.

4. And please, you are yet to make it clear whether riches are from God or the devil and wether prosperity (including material) is part of the blessings we have in our covenant.

thank you Tayo-D for those salient questions, i will use them to further explain my point of view and point out some other questions you may wish to consider:

Tayo-D:

1. Your argument is based on discernment of the heart of those you are accusing. With that, you have entered into the realm that is exclusively preserved for God. You make categorical statement that cannot and should never come out unless backed up with facts and figures which you have certainbly not provided. Accusing those who are rich of self-agrandisement when you do not know their hearts is sickening. You declare that they are not doing enough for the poor and I cannot but ask you if you know how much they give to the poor on a regular basis. Failur to present such facts make you appear unserious.

The Pharisees also gave to the poor . . . what was Christ's assessment of them? Is giving to the poor a sign of godliness?

Tayo-D:

2. This argument reminds me of what Jesus said in Matthew 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. 19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children. We can clearly see that deprivation or otherwise is not the mark of godliness. Relative to Jesus, John the baptist denied himself but this never kept people from criticising both of them. So you see, it isn't the lack or abundance that matters but in doing God's will. The question I need you to answer is this: Are these people using the tools of money and wealth that God has blessed them with to propagate the Gospel or just for their persoal consumption?

Is CU an example of "propagating the gospel"? How, pls explain.
What really is "God's will"? To build schools, amass real estate, enter the guiness book of records all in the name of "propagating the gospel"?

Tayo-D:

3. You also need to clarify if prosperity include fianacial and material increase. I briefly read your argument with someone saying prosperity is not measured in material count. While this is not so for prosperity in the general sense, it is so for prosperity in the material sense. Go back to Abraham, Job, David, Solomon etc and see if God didn't put a count on their material blessings as a means of declaring how much He has blessed them. Need example in the NT? Here it is: Mark 10:29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life. Please how do you read this passage? Jesus said in this lifetime we will receive houses and lands if we gave them up for Him. And yes, there is the persecution that comes with it. By this, I am not surprised by your persecution of these people who are fulfilling the scriptures by receiving from God more of what they gave up, while you are fulfilling scripture also by being the persecutor.

Sir do you call pointing out the truth "persecution"? when Paul sharply reprimanded Peter for declaring that it was unclean to eat with the gentiles did Peter go sob in a corner crying about "persecution"?

How are these people "fulfilling the scriptures"? Pls sir show me the scriptures these people are fulfilling and i will keep quiet.

Indeed material blessings are part of God's riches but sir look again at the examples you mention . . . what was most important to them? The cattle, the houses, the camels, their gold and silver or the dedication of their hearts to God?

Tayo-D:

4. And please, you are yet to make it clear whether riches are from God or the devil and wether prosperity (including material) is part of the blessings we have in our covenant.

riches are from God - Deut 8: 18 But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

Sir you are misconstruing the issue . . . it is not that "wealth" is of the devil but the OVER-EMPHASIS on wealth as a sign of "God's blessings". We have the world's largest christian congregation every sunday . . . and YET we are poorer and more corrupt than Communist China!!

Our political thieves have the front rows in our "ministeries" . . . the sons of our so-called "men of Gawd" are busy in foreign countries living lavish lives that do not glorify the God their parents claim to worship.
thousands come to church no longer to seek the face of the Lord but to seek His hands for "breakthroughs", miracles, signs and wonders!

@ Tayo-D, here is a personal case Truequest sent to me a few minutes ago: (i quote)

I heard of a young guy a member of
Winners Chapel, You konw that before CU was built it was announced in
the church and members were encouraged to contribute or sow any one.
This young boy contributed what could be regarded as true 'widows
mite'. He also gave his services in clearing the ground among other
things that a youngmann can do. Later, he gained admission to the same
CU but no sponsor, he battled, borrowed and begged to no avail and
finally in his 3rd year he was sent out for his inability to foot his
own bills.

Here are my worries, this supposed to be their common wealth since
they al contributed to build the school, but this guy and others in
like category cannot asses what they built. this is honestly most
unfair.

I have just 1 question sir, is this an example of "fulfilling the scriptures" and "giving to the poor"?
What then is the purpose of the church . . . doing "God's will" by giving education only to the rich at the expense of the gullible?

i tot this headline was about the theft and not about the wrongs of the church. nigeria we hail thee

Dont criticise what you dont have fact on
And don't defend people, even your pastors because you believe they are always right.
study the bible for yourself and know when personal interest comflict with God's message.
Many pastors are doing well, but let your focus be on Jesus because he is the way , the truth and the life.

Some pastors might start great, but who says they cannot deviate(especially with the way many of them romance this treasury looted unbelievers) from the primary calling and still be leading their shepard.

How many of us as christian can tell our pastors that what you are doing is wrong even when we are certain that he has err, or is it that we blind towards those things or we have conclude within us that as long as it comes come our MOG, he cannot never be sin.

we all are on these race together and none has attained perfection(not even your pastor) so lets continue to help ourselves but correcting ourselves whenever we go wrong.

My dear brother 4Him, it appears that you have a basic problem with Oyedepo, you just don't agree with his actions, probably because you are suspicious of his motives. i can't argue with you on that because I am not well informed and i don't want to judge him.

Fish and Bread in the verse you quoted shld not be read literarily if not will God give us only Sardines and Agege Bread when we pray?

I agree, I think fish and bread is figurative for a whole lot of other things. We just need to lean on the Holy Spirit for understanding when reading our bibles so we can know the literal/wider meanings of certain specifics like fish and bread. Also, the fact that I didn't mention that 'good things' doesn't exclude non-material things does not mean I don't think so.

Look at this interesting verse: James 4: 3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

What does it mean to ask amiss?

Look at this one too - 1 John 5: 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

What does it mean to "ask according to His will"? Do we know His will?

Yes we may not always know the express will of Gid but I believe that for starters, everything in line with the word of God is the will of Gode.g it is the will of God for you to be healthy because Jesus has borne your diseases and carried your sicknesses. This however gets a lot more sensitive where prosperity is concerned right? e.g. how many cars does the bible permit me to have? I'll drop this issue here for now.

God in His mercy has given us 'space' to ask Him what we will. "Whatsoever things ye desire when you pray, believe that you receive and you shall have".

John 15:7;If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Of course we cannot overlook the conditions here but certainly God allows us to ask according to our will.

Do those "needs" only start and end with money?

CERTAINLY NOT!!!!!!!! BUT THEY ALSO (secondarily) INCLUDE MONEY AND ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS IT CAN BUY!!!!


4Him I love and appreciate your zeal.

robert55:

i tot this headline was about the theft and not about the wrongs of the church. nigeria we hail thee

Issues usually have wider issues attached to them which can be freely discussed. You cannot talk about Yahoo Yahoo without talking about unemployment and the causes of it, for instance.

Nigeria we hail thee, everly!

@4HIM,

The Pharisees also gave to the poor . . . what was Christ's assessment of them? Is giving to the poor a sign of godliness?

So now you are liking them to the Pharisees? Your grouse before was that they do not take care of the poor. Now that you cannot prove that to be true, you resort to another means. You just must have something to condemn. Do us a favour, kindly highlight what Jesus condemned in the Pharisees and how it applies to these people.

CU an example of "propagating the gospel"? How, please explain.
What really is "God's will"? To build schools, amass real estate, enter the guiness book of records all in the name of "propagating the gospel"?

What is your understanding of propagating the gospel? Standing in the marklket place like a mad man and screaming at the top of your lungs? Propagating the gospel is more than that. These kids are effectively being turned to disciples through that institution. They receive spiritual, physical and social skills under the same umbrella. I know this has changed the life of someone I know personally, and if it is only for his sake that CU is built, it is worth it. How much is CU worth compared to the human soul?!

Sir do you call pointing out the truth "persecution"? when Paul sharply reprimanded Peter for declaring that it was unclean to eat with the gentiles did Peter go sob in a corner crying about "persecution"?

Firstly, you are not pointing out anything, but condemning people. Paul corrected Peter and not condemn him. Secondly, your argument as far as I can see lacks any basis, scriptural or otherwise. As Christians, we are to influence every aspect of our social life including academia.

How are these people "fulfilling the scriptures"? Please sir show me the scriptures these people are fulfilling and i will keep quiet.

I told you to go find out how this man began, and know his testimony. Maybe you will have a rethink if you know him a little more. I don't know him personally, but my listening to one of his tapes while on campus, turned my life around totally.

Indeed material blessings are part of God's riches but sir look again at the examples you mention . . . what was most important to them? The cattle, the houses, the camels, their gold and silver or the dedication of their hearts to God?

Again you are commiting the same error I mentioned before. Do you know this man's heart? Do you know what He's given up for his faith? Do you have an idea the sacrifices he's made in secret? Why condemn without information?

Sir you are misconstruing the issue . . . it is not that "wealth" is of the devil but the OVER-EMPHASIS on wealth as a sign of "God's blessings". We have the world's largest christian congregation every sunday . . . and YET we are poorer and more corrupt than Communist China!!

Wealth is a blessing from God. Even communist China's financial blessing is from God. Can you please provide us a list of ALL the mesages preached at canaanland for the past one year. We need to look at them and find out if indeed there has been too much emphasis on material wealth. Failure to provide us with this data only confirms that your argument is based solely on speculation.

Our political thieves have the front rows in our "ministeries" . . . the sons of our so-called "men of Gawd" are busy in foreign countries living lavish lives that do not glorify the God their parents claim to worship.
thousands come to church no longer to seek the face of the Lord but to seek His hands for "breakthroughs", miracles, signs and wonders!

That Samuel's son's were desecrating the temple did not make Samuel less a Man of God. Each man will give his own individual account to God, and not through their Pastors.

It amazes me what churches have turned to in Naija, they are all money making ventures, i attend winners in Naija but during my stay in SA i visited this small community church they r small but they r doing so much, they go on missions to the most unexpected places, they undertake programs in supporting the communities,they give hope to the ppl and u can see the real essence of attending CHURCH but for Naija no way, Winners, redeem, lords chosen, mountain of fire etc dem just dey increase their branches they build big building but have u ever heard them giving back to d public? NO

robert55:

i tot this headline was about the theft and not about the wrongs of the church.

I was wondering as well.