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A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 2:34pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Do you believe God exist? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by AKO1(m): 2:37pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Is'nt that pretty obvious? ![]() |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by benedictac(f): 2:39pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
I am not a fool coz it is only a fool that believe God doesnt exist. Ps 14:1 ¶ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works; There is none that doeth good. |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by huxley(m): 2:40pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: Which god are you talking about? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 2:43pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Thank goodness you are here, now lets talk huxley: the supposed creator of the Heavens and earth and every existing life! |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by huxley(m): 2:45pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
benedictac: I am sure you will burn in hell for saying the above. This is what Jesus said in Matthew 5: 22: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Now, how do you feel about calling people who do not believe in god fools? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by huxley(m): 2:47pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: How do you know a god created the universe? When did he create it all? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 2:48pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
huxley: beautiful! now how do you know the world wasnt created by something |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by benedictac(f): 2:53pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
huxley: so what would you call those that say God doesnt exist? the wise? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by huxley(m): 3:00pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: Well the burden of proof lies with you, since you are making the positive claim. Supposing I were to say "There is a big yellow zombie sitting on your living room" Would you believe that? Who owns the burden of proof in the zombie case? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Okijajuju1(m): 3:09pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Finally a thread I will love. ![]() ![]() tonye-t: Cos, O! I almost forgot, I'm n huxley. ![]() @ Benedictac What would you call a man who believes in SANTA CLAUSE?? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 3:11pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
yeah i put it to you now that a personality created this world and av got the bible to proof it if you say no, then bro you should have a written proof to back your claim aint it? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 3:13pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Okija_juju: you are welcome to either oppose or back my motion, welcome and say something everyone saying something here should take a side |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by huxley(m): 3:25pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: Ok, let me say I am skeptical about your claim about this god and his deeds. Would you be in a position to enlighten me as how: 1) You came to know that he (god) created the universe 2) When he did it? 3) Why you think the bible offers proof that it was god who did it. Why do you consider the bible the world of god? Have you consider that his word might actually be The Egyptian book of the Dead, or the Verdas, or the Koran, or any of the holy books of the thousands of religions some extinct, some still with us? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by PastorAIO: 3:30pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: Must I take a side. How about if I just sit on the fence? huxley: What is a god? Any definitions? Just so that we know what we are talking about. benedictac: The unconvinced? Okija_juju:A Big Baby! Oh, I Forgot. I'm not benedictac. tonye-t: What do you mean by personality? definitions please! |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by benedictac(f): 3:36pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Pastor AIO: I like that, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Okijajuju1(m): 3:40pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: Your bible proof is flawed. Tower of Babel, Shedrach and co., Daniel and the lion, Jonah and the whale, Noah and the titanic, Feeding a multitude with 5bread and 2 fishes (with 12 baskets of leftovers), e.t.c. So if the only proof to your claims is the bible, then you have no arguement cos we will only end up derailing the thread. |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by toneyb: 4:06pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: Who wrote the bible, the invicible being you call god or ancient men? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 4:13pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
@Okija_juju if i say i believe in the true existence of a creator invisible, then i must have heard, seen or perceived it from somewhere, which is for me nothing more than the HOLY BIBLE even athiest believe something, what if you may ask? -"they believe that God does not exist" @pastor AIO, brother with all due respect,if you choose not to take side, then u aint welcomed here @Huxley, now back to your questions,yeah at least Huxley you have accepted that at least a document should be used to back our claims, because if we claim we believe something then we must have seen, listened/heard, smelt or perceived it from somewhere that would have been documented, aint it? if yes, then, lets see things from this perspective first 1. i was born black, from black parents, i grew up and saw my skin dark, my parents dark so to say,and understood the color representation of the word black from a DOCUMENT(s), with all this i have come to believe with no doubt that i am a black,isnt it? good>>>>> now, again, when we were all born, we came out, grew up and came to understand what food meant, now you and i eat because we have both come to believe (from eating, smelling, perceiving, experience) that food gives life or at least keeps us alive, isnt it? also>>>> when you were born, your momma only had to see your genital to know that you are a male, you grew up, saw for yourself how male genitals differed from the females, this you did with your eyes, and perception , inotherwords, you have come to believe for yourself that you are a male now all this you accepted, irrespective of the fact that others have seen, heard or perceived for themselves, isnt it with this , i put it to say that you and I were born, and we came out to hear and see people say that a force, creator, influence, spirit, object, alegory somewhere created the universe, with this and our personal experience we should accept that a disproof me if you can |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 4:17pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Okija_juju: if you say my Bible is flawed, then bring your own FLAWLESS and disproof my flawed real mean follow the rules, aint it, "no document, no proof" show me your document(s) come on! am waiting, |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Okijajuju1(m): 4:37pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Tonye I dont believe your God exists. The onus of proof is on you. The bible is not evidence of nothing, otherwise storybooks would be evidence of the existence of Cinderella. |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by huxley(m): 4:54pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: What sort of inarticulate non-sense it this? I asked several questions which you have avoided. Did I insinuate anywhere that a god must have a document? I asked? 1) what makes you believe that the bible is the word of god? How about other books that make the same claim? You have not answered this question. What a clown and devious person you seem to be. |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 4:59pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
![]() ![]() we are even yet to start the discussion and you have started throwing abuses, "real mean argue constructively, and not destructively" isnt it? ![]() ![]() we are just getting started na, no ill feeling pls ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 5:03pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
huxley: i put it to you that those great books were even more evidence of the proof of my self claimed God, you bring out this books like a weapon, yet you have not really gone through them properly read them again and you will find them giving proofs that "my God" exist ![]() mr. Huxley pls i beg you to give me a proof that your believe that my God doesnt exist is true be a good debater pls |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by toneyb: 5:06pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: Please can you show us one of the proofs that your god exist? if your god exist will we be here debating his existence? why aren't we debating the existence of the stars? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 5:10pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
Okija_juju: bro dont you think i will accept your disbelieve about my believe if and only if you can proof the inexistence of my existing God! i can still prove it to you that those stories about cinderella, and story characters existed and still exist the problem here is that you guys open a book then you condition your minds on what you want to get there and the rest is unseen to you train your minds when you read, because what you may read as red may be read by another as pink and by another as magenta all ye athiest come on! where are you , constructive debate not destructive ones pls |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by toneyb: 5:18pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: All i need is one coherent evidence that your god exist, i was once a christian and i changed my mind which shows that i am very open minded and i can chnage my mind when i see persuasive evidence. if you can give me a coherent evidence for the existence of your god then i will definately change my mind. what makes you believe that the bible is the word of the creator of heaven and earth and the the hindu text false? why is christianity better than judaism? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 5:19pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
toneyb: beautiful,just the exact question i have craved for, now as a good debater i say i will prove mine from my document i call the "BIBLE" now from my document: John.1:1 - "In the beginning was the word (my God), and the word was with God, and the word was God (my God) >>>>>>vs. 3 says "all things were made by my God, and nothing was made without Him (my God) that was made" feed yourself with this one proof from my archives, if you so wish now prove to me that my God doesnt exist, come on! |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by Tonyet1(m): 5:21pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
@toneyb i often call your type, sensual folks, you know what that means, its not an abuse check the dictionary ![]() ![]() |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by toneyb: 5:26pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
tonye-t: good, who said those words? your god or the writer of the book of john? I can prove to you that your god doesn't exist because all of what we know of him were written by men like ourselves, he has never spoken or written anything by himself has he? |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:34pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
I was glad when I saw an advert in response to the atheists propaganda on a London bus saying "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 53:1 There are 3 major groups or worldviews in the world today namely: The atheists, the agnostics and the theists. Let us see which group(s) fit into the description in the verse above. The atheist is absolutely certain that there is no God, the agnostic is not certain whether there is a God or not and the theist(I mean sons of God) is sure that God is, God was and God is to come, the Almighty. Let me use a scenario to bring their perspectives home. Suppose I mention the name of my cousin as Joe blog and then ask an atheist whether Joe Blog exists or not. Guess what their response would be since he doesn’t know him. Atheists: He does not exists Agnostics: I don’t know if he exists because you might have just made up the name. The Theist: Since he is my cousin and I know him, I am absolutely certain he does exist Now tell me is it not foolish to jump to the conclusion that since you do not know him therefore you don’t believe that he exists. There about 7 billion people on earth and you definitely don’t know more than 1% of them for you now to tell me that you are absolutely certain that my cousin does not exist. It is only a fool that will take that position. An agnostic person has also taken an unnecessary position because all he needed to do was to make a concerted effort to find out. If he was told that Joe Blog had a large sum of money to give him would he just say I don’t know whether the person exists and therefore leave it at that? Wouldn’t he make a serious search out for him to be sure. The theist who is the cousin of Joe Blog knows that he exists and needs no convincing that he exists other than to simply pick up his phone and communicate with him. This explains why theists who know the true God and have a personal relationship with Him on a daily basis would need no convincing on the existence of God not and this only shows the positions of atheists and agnostics as foolish and unnecessary worldviews to take. Can you now see which group fits into the Bible verse above? Your guess is as good as mine, and it is the Word of God to mankind. I only wish that they could read how my Yoruba Bible translated this particular verse. ![]() |
Re: A Question For You - Huxley by toneyb: 5:41pm On Mar 02, 2009 |
OLAADEGBU: Which is the true god and what makes him better than the other gods? why is christianity better than judaism as a religion? |
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