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Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Nobody: 11:53pm On Aug 02, 2011 |
”It is not true that four years “is too short” for a President or a Governor to make a difference. The President didn’t get it, and it is important that he does. The period appears too short because many of our elected Governors and Presidents (well, we have had only a few) begin to think of what to do, only when they get to office. They have no blueprint, no clear understanding of what is required, they do not even listen to the people well enough, and the parties that brought them to power have no manifesto, no plan of action, no defined contract with the Nigerian people. Given such background, the complexity of bureaucracy and the enormity of official powers could prove so intimidating that the typical overnight man of power could find himself or herself completely ill-prepared for high office. But this is what we want changed. In states where the Governors are prepared, we have seen so much done in four years.” http://www.facebook.com/notes/akwa-ibom-today/abati-the-speech-jonathan-shouldnt-have-made/188972637821258 |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by olaolabiy: 12:45am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Hmmm |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by mbulela: 12:48am On Aug 03, 2011 |
that was then.now he knows things he did not know before. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Mobinga: 12:57am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Typical Nigerian. He just went to chop. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by wesley80(m): 1:32am On Aug 03, 2011 |
@OP Are we to assume he whispered this into your ear before he took up his appointment? Where is your source? Provide a link or post the complete stuff so we reach our own conclusions, you cant just post an excerpt of an entire write up and expect to be taken seriously. Most writers speak both for and against the proposal and for all we know your quote couldav been extracted completely out of context, so please do whats honourable and provide a link. As an Mod you ought to know better than to post a flying quote! |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Kobojunkie: 1:37am On Aug 03, 2011 |
@OP, abeg add source please./ |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by wesley80(m): 2:07am On Aug 03, 2011 |
@OYB In your madd rush to rubbish the image of Abati you obviously forgot to carry your common sense with you right? Or how else did you miss the quote below in thesame article? QUOTE 'Already, Nigerians are twittering, blogging and texting that Jonathan committed a Freudian slip, and that he plans to encourage an amendment of the Constitution to accommodate an extension of the tenure of Presidents and Governors. If he wants to so amend the Constitution, the same Constitution that he will swear today to uphold and defend, then he should not have been heard attacking that constitution three days to the event. “It is a constitutional problem”, the President stated. The problem may be worth debating of course, and it may well be a good idea to ensure that Presidents and Governors spend only one term in office: five years or six at most. I believe that this may even help solve the problem of cut- throat competition for Presidential and gubernatorial offices, and cure the mischief of Governors and Presidents spending their second terms in office doing practically nothing. But even if the Constitution were to be amended along these lines, it cannot take retroactive effect, otherwise President Jonathan would be accused of subversion and he would have damaged the historic opportunities of his government.' At least now we know why u were not so keen to post the link. Was this the best your inchoate brain could come up with? Pathetic! Your fellow simpletons are already celebrating. So glad this has already made the homepage. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Beaf: 3:10am On Aug 03, 2011 |
^ Lol! Nice one! oyb is suffering from his usual morality deficit. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by okadaman2: 3:31am On Aug 03, 2011 |
^ The Two co-DOOOFUS above me are the ones trying to spin lies out of truth. The full text of Abati's message is below, He said all these before he got a chop-make-i-chop job with Jonathan. Any sane person can read the speech and see that Abati is now trying to dance backwards, we all know what our elders say about crooked dance steps Abati: The Speech Jonathan Shouldn’t Have Made |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Beaf: 3:41am On Aug 03, 2011 |
^ Dude, you only sink deeper in your own vomit. The article does not mention the lie you sad lot are propagating called "tenure elongation." I challenge you to show one instance of the occurence of that phrase (or similar) in Abati's article (except in referrence to people like yourself). If you can't, then hail yourself as the most obvious liar. Abati's article is hard-hitting and very balanced, he also agrees that a single six year term might solve Nigeria's frightening approach to politics. Abati: The problem may be worth debating of course, and it may well be a good idea to ensure that Presidents and Governors spend only one term in office: five years or six at most. I believe that this may even help solve the problem of cut-throat competition for Presidential and gubernatorial offices, and cure the mischief of Governors and Presidents spending their second terms in office doing practically nothing. Perhaps you don't grasp English that well sha. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by seanet02: 3:51am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Hold it, are you trying to say your clueless mugundeen AKA edioteen did not say this? Cant we see Odechukwu is trying to elongated his tenure even though we know he is too clueless to do anything in a century years. Retardos defending retardeen. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by okadaman2: 3:55am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Beaf: ^ IDIOOOOTA na hin you be o choi! I just dey embarrass for you. So you need to see the phrase "Tenure Elongation" in bold capital letters before you get the message in that speech? O gbele oooo, May Osanobua punish the idiooooots that wasted federal money to hire STOOOPID people like these FOOOLs for public propaganda online. Is this the best GEJ can do with public money? |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by dayokanu(m): 4:01am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Retardeen attempting to spin and sell once more |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by tony451: 6:21am On Aug 03, 2011 |
I see what Beaf and co are tying to do and it will not work because there are people here too smart for that nonsense. Deliberately ignoring the gist of the full article which @okada_man has graciously provided and trying to distract us by focusing on irrelevant things like whether he said "tenure elongation" does not cut it. The point is that Reuben Abati has sold his soul as a voice of the people and is now speaking for the very people whose twisted ideas he has condemned for the longest time. I can only think of one reason why: he has become tired of being in the opposition and in the trusted tradition of the typical Nigerian has decided to get his own share of the national cake by joining the establishment. Its a big big shame. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Beaf: 6:29am On Aug 03, 2011 |
^ You see nothing. You and your mates are only making a vain attempt to twist Abati's words into your "tenure elongation" lies. To a certain type that swims in hysterics and conspiracies, morality must not get in the way of the manufature of the next rumour. You can pretend that Abati's words are somehow so devilishly complicated that you can't understand them, but you are fooling only yourself. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Johnpaul2k2(m): 6:34am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Beaf: |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by tony451: 6:49am On Aug 03, 2011 |
I'm not even going to start analysing the article for you because its midnight and I'm tired but if your GEJ-coloured glasses are stopping you from seeing what Abati was saying I can't help you. However I didn't mention tenure elongation as part of my argument. In fact, I have not even put forward any theories on what jonathan is planning so your point does not apply to me. What i did say (not quite as explicitly) was that the bill that Abati was introducing to the nation in his press release last week was the same thing he was against as an editor for the guardian. Whether he did or did not entertain the idea that it might be a solution to the country's problems is not important because the overwhelming conclusion to be made was that he was against the idea and thought it a betrayal of his mandate (however fraudulently won) and the people's faith especially as jonathan is on the "threshold of history" (Abati's words). |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Biggie9: 6:49am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Reuben is just a fool who has no identity. Am suprised that someone of his calibre will sacrifise all he has built and achieved in life as a constructive social critic to become an errand boy for Jonathan just for a pot of porridge. May God safe us all. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Beaf: 7:13am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Biggie9: Abati is man who got his PhD in his early twenties, probably at the age you attained your first degree (if you have one). A fool? Dude, pick your brains from your arse and actually attempt to engage them. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by hercules07: 7:32am On Aug 03, 2011 |
But Beaf your GEJ has a PHD now and he looks and acts like a fool as well, it seems some PHDs are made for fools oooooo. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Biggie9: 7:35am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Beaf: Yes Beaf i agree with you, Abati is a man who got his Phd in his early twenties, probably he was even a teenager when he got it, but academic qualification and wisdom are two different things my dear. Iwu of INEC is a university professor of note yet showed us his wisdom was not bigger than that of a crab. Here again, our academic guru Abati who combines it with years of service as a social critic only to throw all away becos of a pot of porridge offered to him by GEJ. Thats why i trust people like Okojo -Iweala who resigned when she suspected that OBJ wanted to rubbish her. But Abati? Nooo No, a man of no identity, no honour nor shame. May God save us from any hidden Agenda of theirs! |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Demdem(m): 8:32am On Aug 03, 2011 |
well to me the only thing i disagreed with from this article written by "former" Reuben Abati is RESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan almost ruined his inauguration day address by speaking too much at the May 26 pre-inauguration lecture on the theme: “A Transformational Agenda for Accelerated National Development.” Gej hardly speak which isn't out of place as a president of a nation, its just that those few times he has spoken, and the ones he will soon say and will be saying are and will be jargons. To buttress this fact, kindly check my signature below. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Nobody: 8:37am On Aug 03, 2011 |
@Beaf Pls what really is your point? Are you saying that Reuben has never commented against tenure elongation? Pls answer me without insults (am so allergic to insults) Thank you. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Beaf: 8:39am On Aug 03, 2011 |
^ If you have proof, start a topic that is honest. This one and its supporters are liars attempting to twist Abati's words into the new backyard story. hercules07: What does that make you since he is your President? I am sure you are only pretending to be stunningly shallow. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by onyengbu: 9:05am On Aug 03, 2011 |
greateros: You guys are fools!! How does changing constitution to allow only one tenure imply tenure elongation? Has it been proved that the new law will take effect from the current administration? Again even if it will, how does it elongate GEJ's tenure when he can re contest in the current arrangement and get more four years making his tenure 8 years if he wins. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Beaf: 9:29am On Aug 03, 2011 |
^ Don't mind the carrots, they are so abysmally dim, yet some have taken time out to insult PhD holders. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by dustydee: 9:46am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Beaf I think that article is clear enough. Please don't be biased. I don't know if you are being paid to do what you do but even if you are, your morality and patriotism should be above your personal gain. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by yd849ja: 10:01am On Aug 03, 2011 |
What Nigerians want from President Jonathan is purposeful leadership. Today, he takes two oaths: the oath of allegiance (very succinct) and the oath of office President (rather prolix, it should be revised); as stated in the Seventh Schedule of the Constitution which grants him a four-year tenure. Now that he says “four years is too short”, we expect that he will avoid all the shortcomings that makes that possible, and he knows what to do: “hit the ground running”. Any sign of tardiness on the part of his administration can be rightly interpreted as an attempt to justify an extension of his tenure. Dr Abati I guess 6 years Tenure bill is not a "sign of tardiness" on the part of his(your) administration which can rightly be interpreted as an attempt to justify an extension of his tenure sorry Tenure elongation I guess Abati is not a saint after all, he is just a social critic who is also one of us: A TYPICAL NIGERIAN WHO DANCES AT THE WAVE OF CARROT IN HIS SIGHT TO DESTROY A LIFE LONG ACHIEVEMENT. "When he says four years are not enough to do anything, he gives the impression that he does not really appreciate the people’s deep yearning for change, or that he has not been listening to them. We all know it takes a while for the wrong kind of Ministers and Commissioners to settle down, and that such persons can waste everyone’s time, but those are not the kind of Ministers Nigerians want. Nigerians want President Jonathan to choose his cabinet wisely. He must avoid failed politicians who lost elections and are looking for another job in government by any means, PDP chieftains who expect to be rewarded for their contributions in their states, and definitely not the wives, sons and daughters of self-appointed Godfathers and political entrepreneurs" I just don't get Abati if he can write this in his article why is he now a proponent of such an idea in less than 100days in office for his master. "The President didn’t hit the right notes at all. That speech was a cop-out. It is not even what he said. The timing is wrong" Now that Dr. Abati is part of the government I can see how apt and succinct the idea is right, the right notes are now coming into your eardrums Mr Editor? n you are dancing to the tunes. who would be our watchmen now and stand by the gate? God help this country. If that speech was written for President Jonathan, the speech writer should be suspended, and never allowed to write a Presidential speech again. I guess u must have taken over this guys portfolio now. "It is not true that four years “is too short” for a President or a Governor to make a difference. The President didn’t get it, and it is important that he does. The period appears too short because many of our elected Governors and Presidents (well, we have had only a few) begin to think of what to do, only when they get to office. They have no blueprint, no clear understanding of what is required, they do not even listen to the people well enough, and the parties that brought them to power have no manifesto, no plan of action, no defined contract with the Nigerian people. Given such background, the complexity of bureaucracy and the enormity of official powers could prove so intimidating that the typical overnight man of power could find himself or herself completely ill-prepared for high office. But this is what we want changed. In states where the Governors are prepared, we have seen so much done in four years" WHO IS OUR MESSIAH NOW NIGERIA WE HAIL THEE!!!! |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by Biggie9: 10:04am On Aug 03, 2011 |
dustydee: You are right my brother. Something tells me that this so called Beaf might even be the drowning Reuben himself, whom i heard is now going from pillar to post trying to explain to the public that he is only an errand boy and not the originator of tenure elongation. This shows how shameless Nigerians are. For pea-nuts they can sell and forget all they stood for all their lives. With all his phd at age 20yrs Reuben has shown that he is just another femi-fani kayode of Jonathans era. I have news for him anyway, let him gather all the coins he can from GEJ cos after this propaganda work his doing, his name (Reuben) will be consigned to the dustbin of history. End of Story! |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by norrisman: 10:11am On Aug 03, 2011 |
wow Spin doctors do reall work o. I am almost getting confused with all the spinning going on by the paid agents. The main gist na say Before Abati was appointed he said: Four years is not too short and he gave valid points to support his argument. After he was appointed: He is making the case for Jonathan why an amendement is necessary to make Governors and presidents serve one six-year term. This topic even though maybe wrongly captioned isnt really about tenure elongation. it is about Abati being a turncoat! Why are the spin doctors fooling themselves. Do you think if this bill passes, Jonathan is going to walk away in 2015 and not contest. Not in this Naija. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by alaanu(m): 10:13am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Beaf and others should go and sit down. Is it that bill for a single term that is so important to the president at this moment of ours. When the country is facing a lot of social problems so numerous to list here. Just how many months after his ascension to the presidency, this is the most important bill to president Jonathan. My God! He can't send a bill that the the teeming unemployed graduates be given a monthly allowance till they get a good job, a bill that NNPC provide PHCN with gas to power light, a bill that the excess crude oil revenue be used to revamp PHCN, and other good things that will create multiplier effect. @ Beaf, can you let Nigerians know the good side of this bill. @ Reuben Abati, i mean no insult, but can't we all see that the man is growing old, give him a year and check him, you will see what i 'm talking about, he is not different from other PHDs and Profs who are suppose to be in the classroom impacting knowledge but no, they are looking for political appointments. How can we develop when our best ar eonly interested in political appointments instead of Research. |
Re: Reuben Abati On Tenure Elongation (before Before) by kbdrim(m): 10:40am On Aug 03, 2011 |
Beaf: That is my problem with Nigerians, Equating education (PhD)with patroitism, arrant nonsense, It is the educated class that are killing Nigerians, Do we not know how many intellectuals IBB used. What we need in Nigeria are men with honesty and courage, guts to take on the corrupt elite not some wimpy '' intelligent'' fool who changes his words depending on who pays him, I will pick a sanusi anyday over a prof soludo or an aganga who cows b4 the senate. Reuben Abati is a sellout, Any Nigerian intellectual who is not honest to himself and the ideals he stands for does not deserve our respect. There are so many First Class Degree Holders sent on Government scholarships overseas who do not return home to serve their countries. they would rather scheme their way around their contracts. For those dishonest first class or phd holders, I would rather have an honest uneducated man with guts than have that intellectual serving Nigeria. Reuben Abati has proven himself to be a hypocrite like the rest of them |
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