please i need an explanation why was my thread titled :[b]"saudi wahhabis name school after the accursed yazeed (la'natullahi alaihi)" [/b]deleted?

who deleted it and for what reason?

please the new moderator "Maclatunji" should either reinstate my thread or give an explanation why the thread exposing the crimes and hate of the wahhabis (followers of Yazeed) who are enemies of Imam Hussain (as) and the Prophet Muhammad's (sa) household  was deleted.

i am being patient and kind enough in cooperating and wanting a reason.

if i am not given a convincing reason,then my behavior in the forum would be frustrating for the person who deleted my thread.

LagosShia:

please i need an explanation why was my thread titled :"saudi wahhabis named school after the accursed yazeed (la'natullahi alaihi)" deleted?

who deleted it and for what reason?

who deleted it ?

I did.

and for what reason?

For several reasons:

1. The language you used in that thread was offensive, not refined at all. Let us look at your title again:
saudi wahhabis named school after the accursed yazeed (l[b]a'natullahi alaihi[/b])

Now, I have little to say about what you think about the man because it is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, it is obvious that other Muslims would have found your post offensive and a bitter argument was almost inevitable once some people got to read your post.

2. The thread in question does nothing to promote Muslim unity in any shape or form. Hence, I was compelled to remove it to avoid unnecessary conflict and tension.

3. There are ways of presenting issues that are non-confrontational, I think you should learn to present topics in such a manner. I don't intend to get into an argument with you over the subject/object of the thread but know that you cannot just say because you feel offended by an issue/person that you can post anyway you like.

4. If you insist on going on that route, I will be compelled to do the same again and again until you get the message. In case you are not sure of my philosophy as co-moderator, please re-read this again https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-864481.0.html .

I know you are quite angry at the moment, but I want you to cool down and understand me. Like I said earlier, I am not here to fight anybody but I have to maintain decorum and order on this board.  

Thank you.

There goes freedom of speech out of the window !!!

maclatunji:

who deleted it ?

I did.

and for what reason?

For several reasons:

1. The language you used in that thread was offensive, not refined at all. Let us look at your title again:
saudi wahhabis named school after the accursed yazeed (l[b]a'natullahi alaihi[/b])

Now, I have little to say about what you think about the man because it is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, it is obvious that other Muslims would have found your post offensive and a bitter argument was almost inevitable once some people got to read your post.

2. The thread in question does nothing to promote Muslim unity in any shape or form. Hence, I was compelled to remove it to avoid unnecessary conflict and tension.

3. There are ways of presenting issues that are non-confrontational, I think you should learn to present topics in such a manner. I don't intend to get into an argument with you over the subject/object of the thread but know that you cannot just say because you feel offended by an issue/person that you can post anyway you like.

4. If you insist on going on that route, I will be compelled to do the same again and again until you get the message. In case you are not sure of my philosophy as co-moderator, please re-read this again https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-864481.0.html .

I know you are quite angry at the moment, but I want you to cool down and understand me. Like I said earlier, I am not here to fight anybody but I have to maintain decorum and order on this board.  

Thank you.

firstly, i am asking you to reinstate my thread and correct your error in deleting my post.this incident alone will prove that you are incompetent to be a moderator and your appointment few days ago was a big mistake and you should be demoted.

to the points you raised:

1.) to you,is Yazeed (la) not accursed? or is he blessed? please tell us why describing Yazeed as "accursed" bothered you.i think on this you are trying to step on the feet of others.why would other muslims find it offensive to call Yazeed (la) accursed? apart from the wahabbis aka salafis who dont make up to 5% of muslims,both sunnis and shia consider Yazeed as cursed and unjust. is someone defending Yazeed a muslim?

2.) you are not here as a moderator to "promote unity".how does cursing the man who beheaded my Prophet's (sa) grandson against unity? is going against boko haram not also against unity? afterall alqaeda and boko haram and the likes of terrorists are followers of shaitan and the salafist aqeedah in sunnism.which unity and unity with who? the followers of Muhammad (sa) and Hussain (as) do not unite with the followers of Yazeed (la).Imam Hussain (as) said about Yazeed (la):"my type does not give allegiance to his type".the followers of Allah (swt) and the followers of shaitan do not unite.you have a choice to make since you claim to be a muslim.you are either with Hussain (as) or with Yazeed (la).Hussain (as) is the man Muhammad (sa) said:"Hussain is from me and I am from Hussain". if that is against unity,then i spit upon the religion you claim to follow.that is not the religion of Muhammad (sa).that is of shaitan.nairaland itself does not promote unity among nigerians,muslims and even among christians.so you should delete nairaland from the web!

3.) i am not here to be taught what you think.everyone is entitled to his opinion.the issue is as a Muslim,you are either with Allah or with shaitan.in like manner,you are either with Imam Hussain (as) or Yazeed (la).you dont see threads talking against shaitan as offensive,do you?

4.) i am not interested in who or what you are.i am here to participate and express my views.my views do not have to agree with what others think or believe.

5.) i am not angry by Allah! i only pity you.this forum is for muslims.and rightly now i question your faith.you are not my muslim brother.a defender of Yazeed in a muslim forum is a follower of shaitan.you are satanic at the moment you deleted a post that is against Yazeed.

you should seek forgiveness and do tawba to Allah (swt).

if you do not find the courage and faith to reinstate my thread,i will re-post my thread and edit the words you used as the "reasons" or rather excuse for deleting the thread.

for God's sake,the facts speak for themselves.how can any sane person name a school in honor of Yazeed? the action of the saudi wahhabis exposes them.so not that i have changed my mind on Yazeed,but for the thread to stand and expose the action of the wahhabis and those who are anti-Shia,i will repost the thread editing what you think is "offensive".

i am waiting for your reply.you either reinstate my thread with courage and faith seeking the pleasure of Allah (swt) or i repost it in an edited form.

you could have edited my post and removed the adjectives i used if you find them offensive instead of deleting the entire thread.in that,you have proven to be a follower of Yazeed.if you dont repent,may Allah make the fate of Yazeed your own fate.say ameen! you may see this as "petty" as you see other issues,but believe me this is a fundamental issue of iman (faith) in Islam you are playing with.and inshaAllah you will be judged for that whether you think you are right or wrong.

^It does not really matter what my opinions are on the topic. Your language in a public forum has to be measured.

I cannot force unity as you have rightfully stated. However, I can prevent unnecessary conflict and I intend to do that to the best of my ability.

The first thing that one ought to learn after knowing his rights is that those rights have limitations.

Believe me, the decision to remove a thread is not something I take lightly. However, difficult decisions are made easier when one acts on clearly defined principles.

Mind your language and be considerate of other people before posting and we will have no problems.

it really looks you are confused.you deleted a thread based on instincts.now you have to clarify matters.how can you tell us your opinion does not matter and you based the deletion of my thread on your opinion but rather sheer instinct?

i need any Muslim in this forum to tell me that he is in love with Yazeed and he sees Yazeed as a "muslim leader" who should not be talked against.


i want you to tell me,is Yazeed cursed or not? someone who killed the Prophet's (sa) grandson and his family members while claiming to be the "caliph of the Prophet",is that someone cursed or blessed?

there lies your entire reason for deleting my thread.and the reason defeats itself.Yazeed is accursed till the day of judgement and ever after for eternity.

please prove me wrong.if you can prove that Yazeed is not cursed or accursed then i am willing to apologize to you and everyone and accept the fate of my thread.the burden of proof lies on you.you should give me reason why your reason is right.prove yourself mr.co-moderator!

^You are learning, I see you have modified the thread and re-posted it. Seriously, LagosShia let moderation and decorum be your two watchwords on this and other fora. If we all moderate ourselves, no moderator will have anything to hold against us. I don't enjoy deleting people's threads/posts but there has to be order around here.

Thank you for your understanding.

^

you undoubtedly wanted to make a point and score a cheap goal to tell everyone you are around.

but ofcourse your vain and unjustified attempts to conceal the truth and calling fundamental issues in Islam "petty" would not deter me or prevent me from making sure that i use this medium (nairaland) to propagate SHIA-ISLAM to the best of my ability even though the haters hate and the disbelievers dislike it.

ther is nothing to stop me.

as for you,someone who opposes calling Yazid an accursed person,should seek tawba or else you will inshaAllah share the abode of Yazeed.

@lagoshia was your problem accept your mistake in good faith and act maturedly instead of taking it personally besides i just read your thread and nothing was deleted

Agrika:

@lagoshia was your problem accept your mistake in good faith and act maturedly instead of taking it personally besides i just read your thread and nothing was deleted

goodness!

people like you should please maintain silence.

the thread you are seeing is the second i created after editing what mr. co-moderator said was "offensive".the initial thread was deleted because a tyrant was described as "accursed".

i dont thnk anyone is in d position to call another person accursed. until d day of judgement, no one knows who really is. Such words are against Islamic culture IMO and especially used on a fellow muslim,is wrong. Well, lagosShia is probably showing us d hate-filled sect he's been working day and night to preach to us. i doubt that Muslims who are aware of Islamic principles would be swayed.

And again, this is a forum with rules. The day you decided to register, you accepted to follow the terms. Going against which is even Unislamic. I hope our dear brother lagosShia would heed.

@op, also, i dont think u need to open a new thread to announce ur post was deleted. There is already a thread for that. There's no point making a mountain out of a molehill #justsaying.

I hope this won't tilt towards a sunni-shi'a debate.

^^ ow ya studies. started xams already??

deols:

^^ ow ya studies. started xams already??

fine I started last week, iv done the easy ones it remains the potentially difficult ones. thank you, how are ur own studies?

^^ I wish u d very very best. Mine is good too. alhamdulillah

deols:

^^ I wish u d very very best. Mine is good too. alhamdulillah

Jazakumullahu khayran. thank you much hows ur blog, any new stuff?

deols:

i dont thnk anyone is in d position to call another person accursed. until d day of judgement, no one knows who really is. Such words are against Islamic culture IMO and especially used on a fellow muslim,is wrong. Well, lagosShia is probably showing us d hate-filled sect he's been working day and night to preach to us. i doubt that Muslims who are aware of Islamic principles would be swayed.

And again, this is a forum with rules. The day you decided to register, you accepted to follow the terms. Going against which is even Unislamic. I hope our dear brother lagosShia would heed.

deols,

is Iblis accursed? is abu lahab accursed? if yes,then what makes you doubt that Yazeed the accursed son of the accursed and grandson of the accursed ones is not accursed?

Imam Hussain (as) was beheaded and he is the grandson of our Prophet (sa) and the Quran orders us to love the Ahlul-Bayt (as).you are here telling me i am following a hate-filled sect for cursing Yazeed.sometimes i wonder what Islam you are taught.i also find it easy to understand why many in Africa are falling prey to the christian missionaries and their marketing gimmicks.you dont know anything about Islam and the history of Islam.you got sunnism believing it is Islam you got while the reality of differing views within Islam was concealed from your eyes.

if you want to prove to me you are so loving and your Bakri Nasibi sect is filled with love,i dare you "deols" to bless and send greetings to Iblis (la).else,tell us what is the difference between Iblis and Yazeed.

let me also add that aside from Yazeed ordering the killing of Imam Hussain (as) and his household and followers and then attacking Makkah and Medinah including the result of damage of the Ka'bah,Yazeed denied the prophethood of Muhammad (sa).he was not a muslim.

^^ were you there @ his death?? this is the question I'd ask a Muslim who curses anyone thought to have died a non-muslim.---->> self explanatory enough, I think.

Abu lahab is accursed. cursed by Allah. Are putting yourself in the same position??. .My stance remains. Plus you can always make your points without the curses.

deols:

^^ were you there @ his death?? this is the question I'd ask a Muslim who curses anyone  thought to have died a non-muslim.---->> self explanatory enough, I think.

Holy Qur'ân 4:17-18
"Allah accept the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance and repent soon afterwards; to them will Allah turn in mercy: For Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom. Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until death faces one of them, and he says, "Now have I repented indeed;" nor of those who die rejecting Faith: for them have We prepared a punishment most grievous".

Holy Quran 40:83-85
"And when their messengers came to them with clear proofs, they [merely] rejoiced in what they had of knowledge, but they were enveloped by what they used to ridicule.And when they saw Our punishment, they said," We believe in Allah alone and disbelieve in that which we used to associate with Him."But never did their faith benefit them once they saw Our punishment. [It is] the established way of Allah which has preceded among His servants. And the disbelievers thereupon lost [all]".

Abu lahab is accursed. cursed by Allah. Are putting yourself in the same position??. .My stance remains. Plus you can always make your points without the curses.

firstly,to the reports of the Sunnis themselves Yazid was a fasiq and a tyrant who killed innocent people.

Abu Lahab in the Quran is not only cursed.He is sentenced to eternal damnation.

the curisng of Yazeed is different when a believer does that compared to the sentencing of Abu Lahab to the hell fire even though upon examining hadiths we can easily see that Yazeed's place is the hell fire and nothing less! when a believer "curses",that means he is asking Allah (swt) to remove his favor and mercy upon that person.that is what the arabic word "la'nat" means.when you send "la'nat" on Yazeed for beheading Imam Hussain (as),that is the sign of a believer who does not support the beheading of Imam Hussain (as).as for your view on not cursing Yazid,that view either stems from ignorance or hypocrisy and i urge you to research and seek repentance.you dont hear that someone beheaded the grandson of your Prophet (sa) who was pious and righteous,chosen and purified by Allah (swt) and beloved to the Prophet (sa),and you then smile and say :"Allah could forgive him".what is seriously wrong with you?it is only natural for a believer to show dissatisfaction towards the killer of the Prophet's (sa) beloved grandson and stand against that person and in word and deed.you cannot pray for such a person for Allah to show mercy to him. if you love the Prophet (sa) and stand against what hurts him,you can only pray against the person and enemies who hurt the Prophet (sa).and sending "la'nat" is the best way to show your dissatisfaction and stand against that person.now what is Allah does with that person or doesn't do with him,is left for Allah (swt) to judge.but as a believer you must fulfill your own responsibility by standing with the Prophet (sa) and opposing the satanic Yazeed and the evil he committed against the Ahlul-Bayt (as).

let us see this hadith from the holy Prophet (sa) reported by the sunni alim,Ahmad Ibn Hanbal:

‘Whoever bears a grudge against the Ahlul-Bayt (as) is a hypocrite’

in another Hadith it is narrated by Imam Ali (as) that the Beloved Messenger (SAW) stated:

‘Allah has made jannah haram upon those who torture or kill or help torture or kill my Ahlul-Bayt (as) and those who swear at them.’

Now we shall examine the opinions of prominent Sunni scholars on Yazeed and who he was really:

1. Hafiz Ibn Kathir’s comments on Yazeed:
Ibn Kathir himself writes in the famous ‘Al Bidayah’:

‘Traditions inform us that Yazeed loved worldly vices, would drink, listen to kept the company of boys with no facial hair [civil _expression for paedophilia boys, a form of homosexuality], played drums, kept dogs [civil _expression for bestiality], not a day would go by when he was not in a drunken state.’

2. Ibn Katheer in Al Bidayah Volume 8 page 222 stated:
‘Muslim was ordered to ransack Medina for three days. Yazeed committed a major sin. Sahaba and their children were slaughtered openly; other heinous acts were also perpetuated. We have already mentioned that he had Ibn Ziyad kill the grandson of Rasulullah (s) Husayn and his companions. In those three days in Madina, it is difficult to mention the type of acts that were carried out. By doing this act Yazeed wanted to secure his governance, in the same way Allah (swt) broke the neck of every Pharoah, the true King (swt) also broke the neck of Yazeed.’

[size=18pt]3. One who attacks Medina is cursed
We read in al Bidaya Volume 8 page 223: ‘Rasulullah (s) said whoever perpetuated injustice and frightened the residents of Medina, the curse (la’nat) of Allah (swt), His Angels and all people is on such a person’[/size]

4. Ibn Atheer’s comments on Yazeed
In Tareekh al Kamil Volume 3 page 450 Ibn Atheer narrates from Munzir bin Zabeer: ‘Verily Yazeed rewarded me with 100,000 dirhams but this cannot stop me from highlighting his state, By Allah he is a drunkard…’

5. Ibn Atheer’s comments on Yazeed
In ‘Siyar A’lam Al-Nubala’ Volume 4 pages 37-38, Dhahabi narrates: ‘Ziyad Hurshee narrates ‘Yazeed gave me alcohol to drink, I had never drunk alcohol like that before and I enquired where he had obtained its ingredients’. Yazeed replied ‘it is made of sweet pomegranate, honey from Isfahan, sugar from Hawaz and grapes from Burdah…Yazeed indulged in alcohol and would participate in actions that opposed the dictates set by Allah (swt).’

6. Ibn Jauzi’s comments on Yazeed ‘the drunkard’
Ibn Jauzi in Wafa al-Wafa: ‘Yazeed appointed his cousin Uthman bin Muhammad bin Abu Sufyan as Governor of Madina. He sent a delegation to visit Yazeed who bore gifts so that they might take the oath of allegiance to him. Upon their return they said ‘We have returned having visited a man who has no religion, he drinks, plays instruments, keeps the company of singers and dogs [civil word for bestiality], we declare that we have broken our allegiance to him. Abdullah bin Abi Umro bin Hafs Mukhzumee commented ‘Yazeed gave me gifts. But the reality is this man is an enemy of Allah (SWT) and a drunkard. I shall separate myself from him in the same way that I remove my turban [from my head]….’

7. Ibn Hajr’s comments on Yazeed
In Sawaiqh al Muhriqa: ‘One group have deemed Yazeed to be a kaafir, another has stated he was a Muslim but a fasiq (transgressor), a fajir (one that commits debauchery) and a drunkard. There is consensus over his fisq (transgression). One party of Ulema have stated that you can curse him by name, this includes individuals such as Ibn Jauzi and Ahmad. One group made up of individuals such as Ibn Jauzi deem Yazeed a kaafir, others say he was not a kaafir but rather this is a matter that has caused a difference of opinion.

The majority of Ahl’ul Sunnah all agree that he was a fasiq (transgressor), a fajir (one that commits debauchery) and a drunkard. Waqidi had recorded a narration ‘Verily we opposed Yazeed fearing Allah (swt) would reign stones down on us, Yazeed considered nikah (marriage) with mothers and sisters to be permissible and drank alcohol.’

‘Dhahabi narrates that when Abdullah bin Kuzai returned from Damascus he stated that Yazeed performs zina with his mother, sister and daughters. We had better start a movement to oppose Yazeed otherwise stones may reign down on us’

This is one reason why Ibn Hajar al Makki calls Yazeed one of the most debased men in history.

8. Muhaddith Shah Abdul Aziz’s comments on Yazeed
In ‘Sirush Shahadhathayn’, Shah Abdul Aziz, the great Muhadith states: ‘Imam Husayn did not give baiah to Yazeed because he was a drunkard, a fasiq and Dhaalim.’

9. Ibn Taymeeya’s condemnation of unjust Yazeed
Ibn Taymeeya in Minhajj: ‘Yazeed had the sword and hence he had the power to deal with anyone that opposed him. He had the power to reward his subjects with the contents of the treasury, and could also withhold their rights. He had the power to punish criminals; it is in this context that we can understand that he was the khalifah and king. Issues such as Yazeed’s piety or lack of it, or his honesty or lack of it, is another matter. In all of his actions Yazeed was not just, there is no dispute amongst the people of Islam on this matter.’

10. The World reknown Muslim Historian Ibn Khaldun states:
‘Yazeed’s time of governance can be seen as fisq and debauchery, and the blame is on Mu’awiya who should have controlled him.’

11. We read in Tareekh Kamil:
‘The narrator states ‘By Allah, Yazeed drinks alcohol and abandons Salat’

12. We read in Tareekh Abul Fida:
‘Yazeed played the tambourine, drank alcohol and raised bears [civil _expression for bestiality].’

[size=14pt]THE REACTION OF YAZEED (la) TO SEEING THE SEVERED HEAD OF IMAM HUSSAIN (as),HIS DENIAL OF THE PROHETHOOD OF MUHAMMAD (sa),AND THE OPINION OF SUNNI SCHOLARS ON CURSING YAZEED (la):[/size]


Yazeed’s pride at killing Imam Hussain (as)
We read in al Bidayah Volume 8 page 204: ‘Ibn Asakir, writing on Yazeed, states then when Husayn’s head was brought before Yazeed, he recited the couplets of Ibn Zubayri the kaafir ‘I wish my ancestors of Badr were hear to see the severed head of the rebellious tribe (The Prophet (saws’s tribe of Hashim).’

Imam Jalaladun Suyuti (ra) records this tradition in Khasais al Kubra, on the authority of Sahaba Uns bin Harith: ‘I heard Rasulullah (sawas) say ‘Verily my son (Husayn) will be killed in a land called Kerbala, whoever amongst you is alive at that time must go and help him.’
Khasais al Kubra Volume 2 page 125 (Maktaba Nurree Rizvi Publishers, Pakistan)

Yazeeds own words noted in Sharh Fiqh Akbar:
‘Following the murder of Husayn, Yazeed said: ‘I avenged the killing of my kaafir relatives in Badr through killing the family of the Prophet.’

The Fatwa of Allamah Baghdadi – Yazeed denied the Prophethood, to curse him is an act of Ibadah
We read in Tafseer Ruh al Ma’ani page 72 commentary of Surah Muhammad: ‘The wicked Yazeed failed to testify to the Prophethood of Hadhrath Muhammad (sawas). He also perpetrated acts against the residents of Makka, Medina and the family of the Prophet (sawas). He indulged in these acts against them during their lives and after their deaths. These acts are so conclusively proven that had he placed the Qur’an in his hands it would have testified to his kuffar. His being a fasiq and fajir did not go unnoticed by the Ulema of Islam, but the Salaf had no choice but to remain silent as they were living under threat.’

The Fatwas of Qadhi Abu Ya’ala and Abu Husayn deeming it permissible to curse Yazeed
Ibn Katheer in al Bidaya stated: ‘Whoever frightens Medina incurs the wrath of Allah, His Angels and all the people – and some Ulema have deemed it permissible to curse Yazeed. This includes individuals such as Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Allamah Hilalee, Abu Bakr Abdul Aziz, Qadhi Abu Ya’ala and his son Qadhi Abu Husayn. Ibn Jauzi wrote a book deeming it permissible to curse Yazeed.’

Al Suyuti personally cursed Yazeed
In Tareekh ul Khulafa page 207, Dhikr Shahadath Husayn we read as follows:
‘May Allah’s curse be upon the killers of Husayn and Ibn Ziyad.’

deols:

i dont thnk anyone is in d position to call another person accursed. until d day of judgement, no one knows who really is. Such words are against Islamic culture IMO and especially used on a fellow muslim,is wrong. Well, lagosShia is probably showing us d hate-filled sect he's been working day and night to preach to us. i doubt that Muslims who are aware of Islamic principles would be swayed.

And again, this is a forum with rules. The day you decided to register, you accepted to follow the terms. Going against which is even Unislamic. I hope our dear brother lagosShia would heed.

uh oh, a muslim finally agrees with us that indeed islam is mostly about HATE (albeit the shias only).

LagosShia:

deols,

is Iblis accursed? is abu lahab accursed? if yes,then what makes you doubt that Yazeed the accursed son of the accursed and grandson of the accursed ones is not accursed?

Imam Hussain (as) was beheaded and he is the grandson of our Prophet (sa) and the Quran orders us to love the Ahlul-Bayt (as).you are here telling me i am following a hate-filled sect for cursing Yazeed.sometimes i wonder what Islam you are taught.i also find it easy to understand why many in Africa are falling prey to the christian missionaries and their marketing gimmicks.you dont know anything about Islam and the history of Islam.you got sunnism believing it is Islam you got while the reality of differing views within Islam was concealed from your eyes.

hehe we all knew this!

LagosShia:

if you want to[b] prove to me you are so loving and your Bakri Nasibi sect is filled with love[/b],i dare you "deols" to bless and send greetings to Iblis (la).else,tell us what is the difference between Iblis and Yazeed.

hehehe lagosshia exposes these fraudulent muslims for who they are . . . pretentious but full of hate.

Davidlyan,han han?

Lagoshia onijogbon.

Seriously though, i guess they're sending a message by that.

Hope it doesnt result in more bloodshed, lord have mercy.

tpia@:

Lagoshia onijogbon.

why are u trying to blame me?

Seriously though, i guess they're sending a message by that.

which message? u mean the school naming?

maclatunji:

I don't enjoy deleting people's threads/posts but there has to be order around here.

Thank you for your understanding.

Oga Moderator, why don't you explore the possibility of opening a section for Shias so that this masquerading as part of mainstream Islam can stop. The cursing, abusing, "takfereeing" can continue over there without let.

LagosShia:

^

you undoubtedly wanted to make a point and score a cheap goal to tell everyone you are around.

but ofcourse your vain and unjustified attempts to conceal the truth and calling fundamental issues in Islam "petty" would not deter me or prevent me from making sure that i use this medium (nairaland) to propagate SHIA-ISLAM to the best of my ability even though the haters hate and the disbelievers dislike it.

ther is nothing to stop me.

as for you,someone who opposes calling Yazid an accursed person,should seek tawba or else you will inshaAllah share the abode of Yazeed.

BetaThings:

Oga Moderator, why don't you explore the possibility of opening a section for Shias so that this masquerading as part of mainstream Islam can stop. The cursing, abusing, "takfereeing" can continue over there without let.

i dont think i hide the fact that I am a SHIA-MUSLIM and propagating SHIA-ISLAM.infact because i believe it is the truth and pure Islam unlike what the defenders of Yazeed practice,i want people to know about SHIA-ISLAM.so the word "masquerading" is wrong.

if we are to go by "masquerading",we actually need to have a wahhabi forum.the wahhabis whom you admire and defend blindly are the ones disguising themselves as mainstream sunnis and abusing the image of islam and muslims because of the saudi wahhabi illegal occupation of the muslim holy cities of Makkah and Madina.wahhabism is undoubtedly and proven a british colonial concept invented to cause fitnah and infighting in Islam and helping the enemies of muslim through their terrorism to falsely portray muslims as violent people and Islam as a terrorist religion.

it is funny that you are talking about "takfirism",a specialty of wahhabism.  they do not only stop at issuing takfiri fatwas but also killing with it contradicting the verse of the Holy Quran:"let there be no compulsion in religion".

i dont really fancy the idea of talking with you because instead of debating ideas and talking facts,you descend to personal arguments and exchanges like a child hardly making sense.i think we will shortly see that.i'd only leave you to amuse others as i dont honor your style.