IbroSaunks:

Jazakumullahu khayran. thank you much hows ur blog, any new stuff?

sorry. I didnt see ds earlier. U followed the blog abi? U must av bn sent updates. check your yahoomail.

But Moderator why would you delete an entire thread all because Mr. lagosShia behaved as a shia, I you then saying if he were to insult the wives of the Prophet pbuh and his companions, you would delete such post? Maybe you need to restate what will be considered as a material that is deletable.

vedaxcool:

But Moderator why would you delete an entire thread all because Mr. lagosShia behaved as a shia, I you then saying if he were to insult the wives of the Prophet pbuh and his companions, you would delete such post? Maybe you need to restate what will be considered as a material that is deletable.

stop defending tyrants and oppressors in the name of being "companions".and stop defending the rebellious and disobedient 2 wives (out of at least 9 wives) who hurt the Prophet (sa).dont just bundle the companions and wives each into one basket.there were good and bad companions and likwise all the mothers of the believers were good wives of the Prophet (sa) with the exception of the daughters of the two tyrants (Aisha daughter of abu bakr and hafsa daughter of umar).

, my post always makes this guy out of control!

My love for anyone is fr the pleasure of Allah. My dislike of the quality of any including mine is for the pleasure of Allah.
What will make a person hate those who Allah says He Loves and they Love him, always?
What happens here?

I am a married man. I will not let anyone, I mean anyone criticize my wife. That person, especially when he is under my authority, will hear plenty.
I will always take the side of my wife. Always, I mean because she knows my secret more than my mother, my children and my siblings.

I do not believe that Muhammad [as] will be happy that someone here on earth is railing insults, forget the abuses and curses on his wives. No one has that right, including the highest man on earth today; Put any name you want. They are all under the heavens of Allah and they are nothing but just a singular soul on His earth.

We need to be very careful and don't be ignorant. I will not permit anyone to insult my wife and that include those who are older than me in my family.

Brothers, let us be nice to each other and mind our language. Let us stop baiting each other.

brother Sweetnecta,

have you heard the Prophet's (sa) saying that had it being his very own beloved daughter Lady Fatima (as) was to steal,he himself will cut off her hand? then compare this to your words that you wont let anyone criticize your wife.even if she is wrong?

LagosShia:

i dont think i hide the fact that I am a SHIA-MUSLIM and propagating SHIA-ISLAM.infact because i believe it is the truth and pure Islam unlike what the defenders of Yazeed practice,i want people to know about SHIA-ISLAM.so the word "masquerading" is wrong.

The more reason you should welcome your own section so that its "true" message of Shia-Islam is not diluted by the "pretentious" sunnis. Innocent people will therefore not be misled

LagosShia:

if we are to go by "masquerading",we actually need to have a wahhabi forum.the wahhabis whom you admire and defend blindly are the ones disguising themselves as mainstream sunnis and abusing the image of islam and muslims because of the saudi wahhabi illegal occupation of the muslim holy cities of Makkah and Madina.wahhabism is undoubtedly and proven a british colonial concept invented to cause fitnah and infighting in Islam and helping the enemies of muslim through their terrorism to falsely portray muslims as violent people and Islam as a terrorist religion.

So Wahhabis who along with mainstream Muslims don't curse the sahabas, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't approve of Mut'ah, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't slander a mother of the believers, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't have their own special ahadeeth books, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't regard anyone as infallible, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't carry pebbles they make sujud on around, unlike the Shias
are masquerading?
Who is mainstream by evidence, rather than by claiming

I just hope the invasion of KSA and removal of the wahhabis or even the holy sites is not one of the objects of the nuclear project
As to terrorism, please pray for your brother in Thailand
You keep confirming that the central plank of this division is political (usurpation of khilafa, illegal occupation of places), rather than how to make our salat better, run from shirk, pay zakat steadfastly etc

LagosShia:

it is funny that you are talking about "takfirism",a specialty of wahhabism.  they do not only stop at issuing takfiri fatwas but also killing with it contradicting the verse of the Holy Quran:"let there be no compulsion in religion".

So who is doing takfir on this thread now
Wahabbis and other mainstream Muslims don't do takfir of Yazeed. They neither love him nor hate him
They believe his matter is in the hand of Allah, but in your own case, Yazeed is "accursed"
You even compare him to Iblees, whose matter has no shadow of doubt

Muslims have clear criteria for takfir
Does the person know the evidence? has it been brought to his attention etc?
No, the Shia are impatient with all that "nonsense"
Abu Bakr (RA), Aisha bint Abu Bakr (RA), Umar bin Khattab (RA) and so many more are all kufars according to Shia

LagosShia:

i dont really fancy the idea of talking with you because instead of debating ideas and talking facts,you descend to personal arguments and exchanges like a child hardly making sense.i think we will shortly see that.i'd only leave you to amuse others as i dont honor your style.

Hahahaha. Good one.
Alhmadu li Llah that you don't honor my style. I am really very happy!
The day a person who curses and makes takfir of the companions of the Prophet (SAW) including those companions who have been given messages of Jannah, start honouring me is the day I  would realise that I am upon misguidance
Talking about style, you must be very happy by using Insha Allah to wish for MacLatuni what your (shia) belief says is the fate of Yazzed
A loving person would have used that Insha Allah to make dua for his guidance since by your shia  standards he is wrong
BTW I suggest that you encourage your "sister" to stop applauding and laughing with the one who revels in ridiculing Allah.
Afterall I cannot see how an aqeeda that makes takfir of the person who does not agree (and rightly in my view, and BTW you can expand the scope of your curses at this point) that we should curse Yazeed can egg on those who deny the Lordship of Allah (SWT)

BetaThings:

So Wahhabis who along with mainstream Muslims don't curse the sahabas, unlike the Shia
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't approve of Mut'ah, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't slander a mother of the believers, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't have their own special ahadeeth books, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't regard anyone as infallible, unlike the Shias
Wahabbis who along with mainstream Muslims don't carry pebbles they make sujud on around, unlike the Shias
are masquerading?
Who is mainstream by evidence, rather than by claiming

what do you mean by "sahaba"?that is a big word that is not homogenous.even in the Quran Allah descriminates between the pious ones and the bad ones.you dont discrminate between good and bad sahaba because the bad ones are your favourite.

mut'ah is in the Quran and allowed by the Prophet (sa).

the Quran condemns Aisha and does not vindicate her later on that she has swayed from the path of faith.the Prophet (sa) described her house as the place were the horn of shaitan rises.she disobeyed the Prophet (sa) during and after his death.she waged war that killed muslims when the Prophet (sa) her told her before his death not to.

the wahhabis do not only have a separate book of hadith.they have their book of aqeedah by Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab.having hadith books means nothing because to the Shia each hadith is examined individually and proven either true or false.we even accept hadiths in sunni books which are also found in our books.

the chosen ones of Allah (like the prophets) are infallible even to the sunnis.if wahhabis have discarded that it shows again who is not mainstream and who lacks the pure teachings of Islam.

the Prophet (sa) prayed on clay and we Shia also do that.if you call that pebble,it shows the size of your brain is not up to the size of a pebble.

I just hope the invasion of KSA and removal of the wahhabis or even the holy sites is not one of the objects of the nuclear project

Shias are not wahhabis.when the wahabbis took over in Hejaz (saudi arabia) they destroyed Jannatul-Baqee and other holy places disrespecting and desecrating what Islam holds holy.

As to terrorism, please pray for your brother in Thailand

you are obviously repeating the accusation of the americans and israelis.Iran has nothing to do with attacks on israeli diplomats in thailand.Iran has denied involvement.but your western masters have already assasinated 5 iranian nuclear scientists.may be you should seek forgiveness for the killers.they are your masters.

You keep confirming that the central plank of this division is political (usurpation of khilafa, illegal occupation of places), rather than how to make our salat better, run from shirk, pay zakat steadfastly etc

Allah's command to follow and obey the Prophet (sa) is not political even though it has to do with politics.and also following the leadership (wilayah) of those Allah purified is not politics but correct guidance.

So who is doing takfir on this thread now

do takfir as you wish.but dont kill anyone for it as wahhabis do and propagate in killing the infidel and the "heretics" contrary to the Quran's teaching of "no compulsion in religion".

Wahabbis and other mainstream Muslims don't do takfir of Yazeed. They neither love him nor hate him

how can they do takfir of Yazeed when they honor him by naming a school in Riyadh,Saudi Arabia in his honor? how can you even accuse us of doing takfir on Yazeed,when Yazeed was openly a kafir?

They believe his matter is in the hand of Allah, but in your own case, Yazeed is "accursed"

dont the classical sunni scholars see him as accursed? evidence for that has being presented.or as usual you didnt read it?

You even compare him to Iblees, whose matter has no shadow of doubt

in my view he is worse than Iblees.

Muslims have clear criteria for takfir

wahhabis are not muslims.they are Nasibi as the naming of a school honoring yazeed (la) shows.dont talk for muslims.

Abu Bakr (RA), Aisha bint Abu Bakr (RA), Umar bin Khattab (RA) and so many more are all kufars according to Shia

it is in your hadith book of Ahmad Ibn Hanbal that anyone who hurts the Ahlul-Bayt (as) paradise would be made forbidden to him.these are the words from a sunni book.

Alhmadu li Llah that you don't honor my style. I am really very happy!
The day a person who curses and makes takfir of the companions of the Prophet (SAW) including those companions who have been given messages of Jannah, start honouring me is the day I  would realise that I am upon misguidance

inshaAllah i would be in the company of companions like Ammar Ibn Yassir,al-Miqdad,Salman al-Farisi,Bilal al-Habashi,Zuhair al-Qayn (may Allah be pleased with them),while you will be in the company of abu bakr,umar,usthman,muawiyah,yazeed (la) in the hereafter.

Talking about style, you must be very happy by using Insha Allah to wish for MacLatuni what your (shia) belief says is the fate of Yazzed

Yazeed is accursed to both sunnis are shia.it is the wahhabis who disguise themselves as mainstream sunni while they are a distinct movement within sunnism,that honor yazeed.they are honoring their father,the devil.and anyone who defends yazeed,may the curse of Allah,the angels,jinns and mankind be upon that person for eternity.

A loving person would have used that Insha Allah to make dua for his guidance since by your shia  standards he is wrong

the Quran is clear on the issue of da'wah and for who to pray.you dont know that too?

BTW I suggest that you encourage your "sister" to stop applauding and laughing with the one who revels in ridiculing Allah.

wahhabis are no better than frosbel and Davidylan.dont complain about that as if you care about Allah (swt).you are not happy because even a kafir like Davidylan could see your hypocrisy.he wasn't ridiculing Allah (swt) or Islam in that instance.

Afterall I cannot see how an aqeeda that makes takfir of the person who does not agree (and rightly in my view, and BTW you can expand the scope of your curses at this point) that we should curse Yazeed can egg on those who deny the Lordship of Allah (SWT)

Yazeed is accursed."egg those who deny the Lordship of Allah (swt)" ON WHAT? that they should continue denying the Lordship of Allah? that is not true.that he is seeing the hypocrisy of the wahhabis who are no different from him? that is obvious.

and let me send the la'nat of Allah (swt) and his creations upon Yazeed and anyone who is pleased with Yazeed and honors Yazeed and likewise with Iblis.

^^^^
Your views are even worse than I feared. There is really no benefit in to you really.
Making takfir of people is the first step in making killing them lawful in the "wars" the ahlu takfir are always fighting
The path of misguidance you are on holds no reward for me. I can only say you need du'a

LagosShia:

the Prophet (sa) prayed on clay and we Shia also do that.if you call that pebble,it shows the size of your brain is not up to the size of a pebble.

Hahahahahahaha
Were your aqeeda not so far out of it, you would ordinarily have been a funny person

"BetaThing",

please enjoy and laugh:

http://www.revertmuslims.com/islam/shia_pray_on_turbah.htm

^^^^^
Yet another thread of misguidance
You must have deep pockets and unlimited time!

You keep referring me to the road to falsehood. Do you remember who you twisted the verse of the Qur'an here by slicing it up?

LagosShia:


"And everything We have detailed for you in a clear Imam." (Holy Quran 36:12)

why do you use your ignorance to judge others?is it a padlock that you have placed over your head or heart?

So what does the Qur'an really say?

“Indeed, it is We who bring the dead to life and record what they have put forth and what they left behind, and all things We have enumerated in a clear register”  Quran 36:12 (Sahih International)

“Verily, We give life to the dead, and We record that which they send before (them), and their traces [their footsteps and walking on the earth with their legs to the mosques for the five compulsory congregational prayers, Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) and all other good and evil they did, and that which they leave behind], and all things We have recorded with numbers (as a record) in a Clear Book” Quran 36:12  (Muhsin Khan)

So all in a bid to justify your reverence for your Imam, the Qur'an becomes a tool

Really no need to go and browse more trickery

BetaThings:

As to terrorism, please pray for your brother in Thailand

[size=14pt]The Zionist-made Iranian Quds Troops in Thailand before attacking the Zionist diplomats !!!!!!! [/size]



"it's said that the best strategic planning is to first define yourself then create your own enemy and define how the two will interact,  just like what the zionists did dealing with Iran, they first assassinated 4 Iranian nuclear scientists,then they came up with terrorist attacks on their own embassies and diplomats in India,Georgia and Thailand,  to say that Iran did take its revenge,now we are even !
this is a picture of 3 so called elite Iranian Quds troops at a restaurant in Thailand just a while before the attack which just resulted in one of them losing both his legs !!!!!"

courtesy: "Iran Military" facebook fan page.

BetaThings:

^^^^^
Yet another thread of misguidance
You must have deep pockets and unlimited time!

You keep referring me to the road to falsehood. Do you remember who you twisted the verse of the Qur'an here by slicing it up?

So what does the Qur'an really say?

“Indeed, it is We who bring the dead to life and record what they have put forth and what they left behind, and all things We have enumerated in a clear register”  Quran 36:12 (Sahih International)

“Verily, We give life to the dead, and We record that which they send before (them), and their traces [their footsteps and walking on the earth with their legs to the mosques for the five compulsory congregational prayers, Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) and all other good and evil they did, and that which they leave behind], and all things We have recorded with numbers (as a record) in a Clear Book” Quran 36:12  (Muhsin Khan)

So all in a bid to justify your reverence for your Imam, the Qur'an becomes a tool

Really no need to go and browse more trickery

subhanallah!

so that post on verse 36:12 of the Holy Quran (in another thread) have been bothering you for months!!!

Alhamdulillah! you can bring in all the translations you want in the world both by the sunnis and their tail-like offshoots like the Ahmadiyyah,Wahhabis,and Quranists.but you can never try to distort the words of the Holy Quran.

you are accusing me of making the Quran a tool.well,the Quran is a tool that Allah sent for mankind to live a life of guidance.

but you are corrupting the Quran like the christians do.

the verse says: "WA KULLLA SHAI-IN AHSAINAHU BI IMAMEN MUBIN"

The significant or relevant word in that verse is the word "IMAM".when has the word "IMAM" being translated to mean "register" or "book"?

there are other verses (in another context) in the Quran using the words "kitaben mubin" which means "clear book" refering to the Quran itself.but verse 36:12 uses the word IMAM.when has "imam" meant "book"?

you are committing an open and outright act of kufr by tampering with the Holy Quran.you are doing tahreef of the Quran to hide the arabic words by translating them wrongly.you are doing like what the christians do with their texts.i thank Allah (swt) we have the Quran in arabic for all to see.

^^^^
Don't take things out of context. Read the entire verse
Start with "Indeed, it is We who bring the dead to life and record what they have put forth and what they left behind,"

I have no doubt in my mind that you and your fellow shias are the ones corrupting the Qur'an and Islam
Read your posts and see how far you are from everyone. Islam is never a religion of extremism
Some people vowed to fast everyday and make salat all night, the Prophet (SAW) declared that extreme and  out of Islam


I brought that post of yours to remind you of your falsehood
And to show that it is pointless reading the links to further fabrications from you
Since you have your own perverted interpretation of the Qur'an there is no basis for discussion between us
Afterall that is why you are a Shia and I am a Sunni
My time is better spent learning about Islam and how to become better muslim and perform more acts of Ibadah
Rather than spreading hate about who killed who, who took the right of another by force, etc
I leave all of those political battles for you to fight with every tool available to you (including falsehood) as you have chosen
Allah (SWT) is the best Judge

^^^^^^^

for Allah's sake,am i going to argue with you over what is written in the Quran? surat-Yaseen is there for all to see.

you can read it from verse one.it makes no difference to what you are using translation to conceal.the word in verse 12 is "IMAM".you are interpreting and mistranslating through copy/paste the word "IMAM" to mean "register" and "book".

you can feel free to post the transliteration from verse one if you like.when you present the transliteration,then in arabic you will read the word "IMAM" right there in the holy Quran.if you want to deny that and call me names,i wont blame you.that is your level.

in the link i earlier presented,it contains hadiths from your sunni hadith books on prostration on earth.if you like read,if you like continue in your ignorance under your sectarian narrow-mindedness and bigotry.