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An American Deported To Nigeria by presido1: 12:02am On Nov 19, 2007 |
Please my people in 9ja is this true? http://www.vanguardngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1785&Itemid=0 |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 12:06am On Nov 19, 2007 |
I personally find that story very very hard to believe. I mean if he was wrongly deported, you would think the man himself would have gone straight from the airport into the custody of the americans at their office right there at the airport and so on. Why was he picked out for deportation in the first place?? How did he end up there?? There are so many questions that are not even answered by that post there and to think the man has been in Nigeria almost a year now makes it even harder to believe. Do they think he got to Nigeria on his own and is now looking for a way out or something ![]() |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by presido1: 12:14am On Nov 19, 2007 |
Are suggesting he is a Nigerian or what? please shed more light as the case is in court and he has given his SSN to US embassy in Nigeria but they refused to accept him according to the paper. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 12:18am On Nov 19, 2007 |
I am saying I find it hard to believe an american could be mistakenly deported to Nigeria let alone him going to the US Embassy and be rejected even after showing his details. How did he find himself in the same place the people held for deportation were held would be my first question. Next is how did he get on the Nigerian deportees list, thirdly, was he asleep when he was dragged to the airport to be deported?? Thirdly, how does he then arrive in Nigeria and then not have the US office there raise some sort of alert?? Again, I find it hard to believe that this man was deported to Nigeria, now if the story said something like he found himself in Nigeria but did not have a way to get back. that would be easier but more information is needed to answer many of the questions which I have. How did he end up down there in the first place?? |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by presido1: 12:24am On Nov 19, 2007 |
Well try and sor clerification from his lawyer at least his chambers name is in the paper. Nobody in NL will be able to answer you questions to your satisfaction as we all read from the same paper. But all i know is he is an American deported to Nigeria wedar by omission or commision i dont know. They should take him back as he will constitute nuisance to peace loving Nigerians. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 12:26am On Nov 19, 2007 |
ob boY!! |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by presido1: 8:33pm On Nov 19, 2007 |
Kobojunkie:Meaning what? |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by BlackMamba(m): 10:41pm On Nov 19, 2007 |
There is obviously more to this story than our inept media will rush to publish. Can't they do some little investigative journalism eg. place some phone calls or something, to authorities and provide the public with some sensible information. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by uspry1(f): 11:44pm On Nov 19, 2007 |
For two days, I researched every US media online as well as read the newspapers to hear about Grayson Ernest Eugene, an American citizen deported to Nigeria wrongly. I mean there is no one in his family or NAACP in the US were concerned to help out him out. NOTHING!!!! (all New York and South Carolina newspapers where he claimed his birthplace and current resident of NY) Therefore I assume that man is illegal immigrant and theft identify of real Grayson Ernest Eugene, maybe I was wrong!!! |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 1:05am On Nov 20, 2007 |
uspry1: I am glad even you see that this story seems a bit larger than life. How does an American citizen get escorted from America, through the Airport, through immigration here, down to Nigeria and through US immigration there??Does he at least have the Ohio Accent or something?? I think there is a lot to this that we do not know. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Nobody: 1:10am On Nov 20, 2007 |
the guy has no family? no friends? no work colleagues who could petition the US government on his behalf? no birth certificate? no credit cards? no drivers license? no property in the US? This man is a Nigerian illegal immigrant jare! |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by naijaking1: 6:11am On Nov 20, 2007 |
Why is it so difficult for some people to take this story as written, and why is it even more difficult to believe that this incident was not reported by any major US news outlet. I agree that there should be more investigative journalism, but the truth is that any thing is possible in America. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by wendymanda: 6:19am On Nov 20, 2007 |
Why is it so difficult for some people to take this story as written, and why is it even more difficult to believe that this incident was not reported by any major US news outlet.I don;t think it's difficult it's more impossible. There is no way such a mistake could have been made unless the man is dumb, deaf, blind and a stupid idiot. It costs more money to deport someone than to keep them so that mistake is too costly to believe. Moreso he could sue the pants out of the government so they would have to tread carefully. Also if he is a born bred American how could he have no ID. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by naijaking1: 6:27am On Nov 20, 2007 |
wendymanda: I am surprised you think it's impossible, I have witnessed worse (unbelievable)incidents where people and things simply fall through a crack, and when people realize their mistakes, they go to any lenght to cover it up. All it takes is just the wrong sequence of events, for the most unbelievable circumstances to occur. No matter what your experience maybe, there is no question that more investigation needs to be conducted into this incident. Let's just keep an open mind. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by denex: 9:37am On Nov 20, 2007 |
Abeg we should in turn deport him to Togo immediately. We cannot be used as a dumping ground for unwanted citizens. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by RichyBlacK(m): 9:51am On Nov 20, 2007 |
There are many people living in America without any known relative or friend - they are typically tagged John/Jane Doe, particularly when their corpses are found, and calls for relatives and friends to come forward to identify the body, prove unsuccessful. America is nothing like the socially integrated, tightly-knitted structure of family and friends we have in Nigeria. People live unbelievably isolated lives. There have been cases of people found dead in their apartments after one week. So, questions like: "no friend?", "no relative?", "no driver's license?", are, at best, ignorant. Also, the US media is many times not privy to some of the actions of the US government. Under the idiotic government of George W Bush, America fights a so-called war on terror. This poorly-defined, never-ending war, based on the gullibility and chronic xenophobia of some Americans, has given imps in the US government the audacity to carry out all forms of covert illegal activities. Extraordinary renditions is one such activity where in George Bush and his cabal of evil exercise extra-judicial powers in the name of "War on Terror". Deportation is an important component of this machinery of fear and many times mistakes are made. In its infinite arrogance, the US has never admitted to any mistakes when wrongfully deporting anyone under this Gestapo-style tactic. See the cases of Khalid El-Masri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri) and Maher Arar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar). As naijaking1 stated earlier, anything is possible in America. Being a US citizen, is no immunity from being targeted by George Bush's Schutzstaffel. José Padilla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Padilla_%28prisoner%29) is just one victim. I'm not saying that the story is true, however, I'm not dismissing it either. Grayson Ernest Eugene belongs to a minority group, just like José Padilla, and many that have suffered under an arguably racist, ethnically-focused and anti-Muslim campaign. Nobody should underestimate what George Bush and his cabal of evil can do in the name of fighting a war against a noun! |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by angel101(f): 10:35am On Nov 20, 2007 |
with what document was this guy allowed into nigeria. does the nigerian immigration just accept any/every deportee wether or not they are nigerians? i would have thought that he would need to be confirmed as being a nigerian before being allowed into the country. no? ![]() |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by georgen2u(m): 11:39am On Nov 20, 2007 |
that was very strange how can it be |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by presido1: 12:00pm On Nov 20, 2007 |
They felt since he has no identity or anybody to identify him in US he must be an illegal Nigerian Immigrant. Did they contact Nigerian embassy in US before the deportation. Before ever anybody is deported the countries embassy must be contacted and they must acept that the person is from their country before the deportation will go ahead otherwise the person will remain in deportation camp until they find his root. The news is somehow starnge and for the US embassy to not listern to him is another starnge side of the whole issue. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 12:55pm On Nov 20, 2007 |
wendymanda: Thank you @Wendy, If the news had said that a Nigerian was DEPORTED to america, maybe more would get how ridiculous it actually sounds then, ![]() Anywho, I am glad even you find it strange yourself @presido, I have lived in this country without ID for over a year, infact, I was stopped by the cops on over 3 occassions on the road and I had no license to show, was never arrested or told to report to the INS, had NEVER been deported cause of that and I was never asked to call relatives since I am an adult and not a minor. I have however been to see where deportees are held, I think we should start with asking how the man got to be locked up in there in the first place and How he got tagged to go to Nigeria and not any other black country in the world. Infact, there are millions of americans who live on the streets with No ID and that is almost expected and still they are not deported. I smell A HUGE RAT in this case!!! The dude needs to EXPLAIN himself. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Iman3(m): 10:14pm On Nov 20, 2007 |
@RichyBlack They should be paying you a salary for boneheaded commentary.Such a rare fusion of paranoia and imbecility. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by tpia: 10:20pm On Nov 20, 2007 |
@naijaking1 Why is it so difficult for some people to take this story as written, and why is it even more difficult to believe that this incident was not reported by any major US news outlet. I agree. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by debosky(m): 10:28pm On Nov 20, 2007 |
If anything is 'possible' like you all claim, how come they haven't deported more unsavory individuals - those with criminal records, and other crimes that they decided to mistakenly 'deport' this fellow? The story is mega-fishy. . .he must've been involved in something shady. There are a million and one ways to confirm one's identity in the US - rent, drivers license, birth records, medical records, credit cards, SSN, bills, SOMETHING. J ane/John Does are unidentified dead people for the most part, not someone living who can actually speak and talk and is not claiming to suffer from amnesia ![]() To deport him means that he was confirmed to be illegally in the country. How is that related to 'Bush's Sausage Strasse' ? ![]() ![]() |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by naijaking1: 5:11am On Nov 21, 2007 |
It would be nice to know whether there new developments in this case, ie if someone has actually began a journalistic investigation of the circumstances. I still wouldn't dismiss anything simply because it's too 'fishy' to be true. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 6:07am On Nov 21, 2007 |
naijaking1: I suggest you focus on the reasons listed for this being a fishy story. Notice there are so many unanswered questions. Reading a story without knowing serious details is not enough for it to be true. There are so many DETAILS missing from that publication that already shows the story was not written to inform. Infact, the story offers us no facts when it comes to answering why and how he was deported in the first place, or IF he was actually deported as he claims. What you are saying is that we all believe cases people make just cause they make it. That is not how the rest of the world works, no time in history has it ever worked that way and it is not about to change in this situation just cause america is involved. I also suggest you turn this story around and see it saying something like "A NIGERIAN DEPORTED TO AMERICA" and maybe that might clue you in as to the many gaping holes in the story. @Naijaking Sometimes we might get too carried away with other things that we might not be able to see what is right there in front of us as it really is. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by RichyBlacK(m): 7:11am On Nov 21, 2007 |
I-man: Small boy, why not make your own comments and leave mine alone. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by denex: 7:13am On Nov 21, 2007 |
@I-man I cannot understand the personal attack on RichyBlack. Something must be wrong with you. Well Africa is the motherland of all Africans and people of African descent. Nigeria is by far the largest African country and perhaps outsiders see us more as the custodians of everything African, so since they didn't know where exactly to send the man, they just sent him to us. But what we should in turn do is find a befitting country to deport him to. I personally suggest Togo. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by denex: 7:15am On Nov 21, 2007 |
@I-man I cannot understand the personal attack on RichyBlack. Something must be wrong with you. Well Africa is the motherland of all Africans and people of African descent. Nigeria is by far the largest African country and perhaps outsiders see us more as the custodians of everything African, so since they didn't know where exactly to send the man, they just sent him to us. But what we should in turn do is find a befitting country to deport him to. I personally suggest Togo. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by denex: 7:16am On Nov 21, 2007 |
@I-man I cannot understand the personal attack on RichyBlack. Something must be wrong with you. Well Africa is the motherland of all Africans and people of African descent. Nigeria is by far the largest African country and perhaps outsiders see us more as the custodians of everything African, so since they didn't know where exactly to send the man, they just sent him to us. But what we should in turn do is find a befitting country to deport him to. I personally suggest Togo. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by RichyBlacK(m): 7:23am On Nov 21, 2007 |
denex: @denex, Thank you jare. It seems he has been blinded by Western propaganda. I'll keep making my comments on this forum, and no agent of evil (like I-man) can stop me. |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by RichyBlacK(m): 7:32am On Nov 21, 2007 |
On George Bush's Global War On Terror (GWOT): 1. A sham to enrich his cronies who control the military-industrial complex 2. A ploy to control the resources of nations that are not interested in being lapdogs to the United States 3. A fraud on the American people 4. An instrument of fear designed to control the American people - thank God majority of them are wiser 5. An attempt to fulfill his dreams of being a dictator |
Re: An American Deported To Nigeria by Kobojunkie: 7:33am On Nov 21, 2007 |
sigH!!!! |
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