Hello,
All Bia-rats, I still remain myself. The one and only Okokomeji, I’m drippin’ right now with my bigger-ass Yoruba swagger! You might think I’m cocky, I might just be. You call it Yoruba chauvinism or bourgeois, that’s how I live. I’m still the same garrulous boy that you love to hate, now I’m about to set the record straight.
Igbo people why do you always compromise?
1) Sonny Odogwe said public of the news that Wole Soyinka and Obasanjo are not Nigerians.
I asked who is he? Definitely nobody!
I don’t like praying incestuous Gorrilla a.k.a. OBJ, but as you might not like he has left a giant step on the sand of time. Wole Soyinka, the first African to get a Noble laureate and y’all think he’s bummed?
2) You always think you (Igbos) are vying with Yorubas; for really? When you are culturally inferior by all standards.
Would it be in education, politics, culture and exposure? I told every last one of you that Yoruba superiority is not by accident, it’s simply corollary.
3) To all Yorubas, Igbo people will never let you immortalize anything from Egba and Ife. They believe everything in Ife and Egba is theirs (being properties, land and the people.
So, no way for Obasanjo, Wole Soyinka and MKO Abiola. If una want Obasanjo and Wole Soyinka? We can only give you Obasanjo not our precious Wole Soyinka. They believe in their myths, that Egbas are the smartest and richest, and like jews with their business acumen. Therefore, Egbas are Igbos (because it’s what Igbo people known for). LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world renowned archaeologists have said it many times without numbered; that Ife is the cradle of Life and civilization (it’s also like Abuja of Nigeria to the whole world; because it’s located exactly at the middle of the globe). Igbo people attested that it’s true, but it’s theirs.
They said Egba means egbo, that Yorubas changed it to Egba.
Let me clear my throat on that one; I say it often that there are just two languages in the world that share similarity with Yoruba, which are Spanish and French. But Yorubas surpass them in both (Stress and accent marks), those marks make our language a prototype of its own.
Get the fact straight:
Egba is no where derived from Egbo!
In Yoruba, through the stress and accent marks; Egba can mean five things.
Egba (take)
Egba (Whipping cane)
Egba (beads or bangles)
Egba (I will let you know)
Egba (Abeokuta people)
Yoruba is the most coded language in the world, if you are a programmer, the more you code the better your work be. Accent marks have never been found in Igbo usage, everything is plain. Yoruba has more vowel and consonant than Igbo language.
4) Ifa is the Yoruba almighty divination modules, you would even have to be a trained warrior or priest under the tutelage of guardianship to discern it and was never meant for outsiders. Ife has always been the cradle of Yoruba and will forever be. So, if Igbos think they own Ife, they should come out with more convincing facts; rather than deceiving yourselves.

5) How many Yorubas in Nigeria? 48 million people!

How many want to worship Orisha? If I’m right, it would be not up to one million. That means we are letting our ancestors fade away little by little. I understand where many Yorubas are coming from? I think they still get bogged by their ancient astronomical fetish and supernatural lifestyles. Luckily for us, Yoruba religion (the only religion that made it out of Africa) is dual in nature. It composes of RITUAL AND ART, the art which includes (cultural dance, music, gospel, display of artifacts and e.t.c. ) Like they say in Yoruba (chicken does not have values at home; until it goes outside) that is the perfect description of Yoruba art and culture.Currently, in American continent; it has an estimate of 70 million adherent followers. It could have even net 100 million; but during the slavery, the USA whites ratio to blacks is 6 to 1. So, they succeeded in outlawing beaten of Bata drums and practicing Orisha (when caught often equivalent to death by hanging which called lynching by then.
It so much practicing in every nooks and crannies of South America. We need to revisit our past cultural history (let’s forget about the ritual part but focus on the arts), this could bring more tourism to Nigeria. You might think it’s funny? Marlon Jackson wants to invest $3.4 billion dollars to build topmost world resort in Badagry town of Lagos and has the “Jackson five’s name ” inscribes on a life-size computerize billboard. Then, Igbos are crying (he should build it in the east, because they had most slaves). Give me a break y'all! Did you think it’s only for USA black folks? It’s for all 70 million adherent followers, before any other black people.

Give me a break Igbo people! You are wasting your time and your money which supposed to be spent on important things in the east (by traveling down to South America to convince people that all the black folks are yours, while majority of them claimed they are from Ife. Then, you started crying that you own IFE too. There has never been any iota of Igbo trace to Ife, please stop deceiving yourselves.

Despites, majority of us want to do away with “Orisha” will never let Igbos who are culturally inferior to us claimed the glory for the greatest achievement of our ancestors. Because, Igbo people trying hard to convince them, that’s like a blessing to us, they troop like battalions to Nigeria to see how life is from their providence in Ife. Everything is on youtube.

ikeyman00:

now just to proof to u that i aint lyin

this is a source from ur own biased oduduwa claimin the igbos invaded ife!!; but hey what do u expect from oduduwa that is in love of hatin the the truth

however one thing certain okokodeji-juju is oduduwa himself accepted there were igbos in ife

now see the influnce in the so called art oduduwa are braggin on, na craze

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NjMF9qCM1_wC&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70&dq=igbos+in+ife&source=bl&ots=Nh5_4Fccs4&sig=icmqpI6p4o4Ta_HM_88MZ2DrHrw&hl=en&ei=p7poSp3bGuWrjAezxPSyCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2

Trust me, you can win me on Ife issues. I might think you are a novice on that topic.

You never told me your people want Wole Soyinka and Obasanjo because they are Egbas?
This is what I got from Igbo quack scientist Philips Emeaguali. If you want to doubt that, tell me what he has discovered (and don't tell me computer super super ooooo). A lot of Igbo guys debunked him and it's true what they alleged him for!

http://emeagwali.com/letters/dear-professor-emeagwali-onye-igbo-ka-nbu.htm


Ishaq D. Al-Sulaimani
Vernon (Alufiel) Grier, Ed.D

THE GREATER IGBO NATION-- IDENTIFYING IGBO VARIANTS DURING THE ERA OF THE SLAVE TRADE


THE EGBA ARE IGBO
Southwest Nigeria is commonly referred to as “Yorubaland” which is home to a mosaic of distinct tribes and tribal states who collectively form the present day Yoruba tribal identity, however the original Yoruba designation exclusively referred to the Oyo, a tribe who at one time lived amongst the Hausas in what is presently Northern Nigeria. In fact the word Yoruba is of Hausa origins.
Misrepresentations of Nigeria the Facts and the Figures by Yusef Bala Usman, PhD – Center for Democratic Development, Research and Training.
“The fact is that the earliest record we have of the use of the very name Yoruba was in the Hausa Language and it seems to have applied to the people of the Alfinate Oyo. Don Masani wrote a book on the Muslim scholars of the Yarriba.”
Over the centuries the Oyo were gradually driven southward where they in turn became the conquerors of the indigenous people of “Southwest Nigeria” who like their Southeastern counterparts were referred to as the Igbo. The Southwestern Igbo were protected by an army of masked warriors known as the Egbo or Egba. Olumida Lucas states that the name Egba is synonymous with Igbo. The Indigenous Igbo(Egba) lived in the forest area surrounding Ife. The name Ife derives from an Igbo system of “divination” called Ifa. It was at Ife that the Igbo(Egba) were first confronted by Odudwa who along with his youngest son Oranyan are remembered as the founders of the Oyo(Yoruba) Kingdom at Ife. At the time of Odudwa’s invasion the indigenous Igbo(Egba) resided under the leadership of Obatala whose name means the Oba or Obi Ala. Obi or Oba was initially an Igbo title of authority and Ala is the land deity of the Igbo. Amongst the Egbo tribes of Calabar the Oba appears in the form of the deity Obassi who is also called Abassi.
Like the indigenous forest dwelling Igbos, the present day Egbas are historically associated with the Obas. In fact the name of the Egba ruling council known as the Ogboni relates to the Igbo word Ogbonna which indirectly refers to an elder.

The Wikipedia Encyclopedia – “Yoruba”
“The numerous Egba communities found in the forests below Oyo’s Savannah region were a notable example of elected Obas though the Ogboni, a legislative judicial council of notable elders wielded the actual political power.”
(The Ogboni “Cult” played a central role in the Brazil slave rebellion of 1809.)
In their initial encounters the Oyo(Yoruba) were unable to penetrate the frightening Egba(Igbo) as these intimidating masked forest dwellers mastered the art of instilling fear into their opponents. In defense of their homeland the Egba(Igbo) went further in raiding and burning down the intruding Oyo(Yoruba) settlements in the town at Ife.
The Egba were first defeated through the scheming of a woman named Moremi who allowed herself to be captured as she used her beauty to seduce the Igbo(Egba) King into revealing the secrets of the masked Egba warriors. She later returned to the Oyo providing her countrymen with the necessary information needed to finally conquer the Igbo(Egba) Kingdom. This defeat of the Igbo(Egba) is celebrated every year at the annual Eid Festival of Ife.
In 1835, the Egba declared themselves to be independent of the Oyo(Yoruba) and in response the Oyo along with the Ijebu drove them out of Ibadan, Ife and other towns north of their present day capital of Abeokuta. As a result of contact between the Ijebu and the Indigenous Igbo the city Ijebu-Igbo was established. The founding of the Egba Kingdom of Abeokuta in 1837 is considered to be the last kingdom to be recognized within the “Yoruba federation of tribes”. By this time the term Yoruba had expanded beyond its original usage in referring to the Oyo and now generally applied to all of the inhabitants of Southwestern Nigeria.
The tradition of the masked Egba(Igbo) warriors is likewise documented in Southeast Nigeria amongst the followers of the Egbo Society of Calabar.

EGBO – A secret society at one time existing as a political bond between various towns especially Eastern Nigeria. – World Book Dictionary A-K 1974.
In 1876, the Scottish Presbyterian missionary Mary Slessor came to Calabar. According to the accountings of Ms. Slessor in the “Igbo” dominated areas a secret society known as Egbo went around in masks and beat people. She claimed to have chased a group of Egbo and tore off a mask. The image of Mary Slessor would later appear on the 10 pound British Monetary note. (The Egbo/Egba warriors seem to have a problem or weakness in defending themselves against foreign women. First Moremi in the west informs her people to burn the masks of the Egba(Igbo) warriors and later in the east Mary Slessor claims to have ripped a mask off of an Egbo man.)
The Egba of Abeokuta worship a deity called the Oro. Oro is a god who resides in a bush. In honor of Oro a sacred ceremony is performed at a secluded spot inside the bush. This ceremony is called Igbo Oro and is very similar to bush ceremonies observed by the Egbo Society of Calabar. There are many similar practices and rituals performed by both the Egba of “Yorubaland” and the Egbo Society of the east. In this regard it is of interest to note the name of the Biafran Officer from Ejagham(Calabar), the formidable Captain Ndom Egba.
Although the concept of Legba varies it began as an ancestral memorial designed to maintain the Egba identity during times of persecution and hardship. Legba is also known as Eshu and relates to the deity Isua which is honored in the Egbo Society as the Master of Ceremonies. Legba was also activated in the New World as a means to counter modern slavery and its attempts to wipe out the Egba identity of the captives. The deity is described in Yoruba mythology as the “Divine trickster” because of his ability to outwit his fellow gods. Evidences of Legba have been documented throughout the Americas in such places as Brazil, Guyana, Trinidad, Haiti and New Orleans under various names such as Lebba, Legba, Elegbara and Liba. It is the Igbo descended Mina tribes such as the Ewe and Fon who are most readily associated with the Legba variant.
The term Elegbara is of great significance because not only does the name appear in the Americas amongst Igbo descended captives meaning the Egba and the Mina tribes, but is also the name of a tribe that lives on the Southern Sudanese, Northern Ugandan border and of whom are likewise related to the Igbos of Nigeria as they are known by the variant of Elegbara being called the Lugbara. When traveling in Uganda I personally met a Lugbara Doctor of Medicine who previously studied alongside of Igbo students from Nigeria. The Lugbara man stated that he could understand much of the Igbo Language which held a great deal in common with his own Lugbara Tongue. Through numerous and prominent cultural and linguistic affinities the Lugbara man was definitely convinced that the Lugbara and the Igbo are akin.
Similar to the Igbo of the east, the western Igbo descended Egba were always known to be revolutionaries in continual revolt against the Colonial British authorities, European missionaries and their traditional Yoruba enemies being primarily that of the Oyo and Ijebu. In 1929 the Igbo market women of the east led a tax revolt against the Colonial British Government which became known as the Abia Women’s Tax Revolt. The Egba women carried out a similar tax revolt in 1947 known as the Abeokuta Women’s Tax Revolt of Egba Market Women. The Egba market women were led by Fumilayo Ransome Kuti, a teacher and wife of a prominent Egba educationalist. The protest of over 10,000 Egba women caused the governing authorities to abolish taxes on women for several years and the Alake who conspired with the Colonial authorities spent three years in exile in Oshogbo.
Many of the positive social and ethical traits which are often associated with the Igbo are historically documented as being characteristic of the Egba as well. Robert Campbell who along with Martin Robison Delaney signed a pact with Egba leaders for the right of resettlement of African-Americans to “Egbaland” states that the Egba are the most industrious people on the face of the earth. (Burton 1863:101)
James Africanus Beale Horton concerning the Egba(Akus) “It must be admitted without question that there are no people on the coast who are so hard working and so long suffering in proportion to what they expect in return.” He also went on to say that the Egba as a race are amongst the most industrious, persevering and hard working people on the coast of Africa. (Horton 1969:149)
In terms of education the Egba like the Igbo are deserving of great acclaim. The first Black-African to receive a Nobel Prize in Literature was an Egba man named Wole Soyinka who like the Igbo actively opposed the Nigerian Government during the Biafran War. Soyinka was detained by agents of the state between 1967 and 1969. In this regard Booker T. Washington whose middle name, Tanifeani, attests to Egba origins should be noted as the founder of the famous Tuskegee Institute.
In Brazil an organized Ibo revolt led to the establishment of the Independent “Ibo Republic” of Palmares which lasted 45 years. Being consistent with “Igbo resistance” Palmares ended in a massive suicide of Ibo warriors who preferred death to capture. The city Ibotirama testifies to a strong Ibo presence in the region, however as in the case of Haiti, Afro-Brazilian culture and religious practices are more readily associated with that of the “Yoruba”(Egba) including the worship of Legba.
Olukwumu is spoken in Brazil and interestingly enough in a few Western Ibo communities such as Anioma, Idumu-ogu, Ubulubu, Ugbodu, Ugboba and Okwumuzu. In fact communities bearing the name Olukwumu(Olukumi) still exist amongst the Western Ibo. Although this dialect cannot be found in the Yoruba heartland it remains in reference as a “lost dialect of the Yoruba Language”. All of the above clearly indicates that many of the captives in Brazil including those who successfully revolted in the establishment of Palmares were of western Ibo origins and like the Egba are being mistakenly classified as Yoruba. In Brazil the Western Ibo were accompanied by a massive importing of Ebos from Angola and Ibos from Mozambique, the latter further accounting for the dominant and preferable Ibo usage amongst the Brazilian captives.
In Cuba the Olukwumu were referred to as the Olukumi, Lukumi or Akumi. The Egba have traditionally resisted identification with the term Yoruba preferring to be called Egbas or Akus. Slaves in Cuba known as the Lukumi or Akumi meaning of the Egba people were well known for suicide resistance which often found them handing from the branches of the Guasima trees. This being very similar to the “Igbo” resisters of Haiti who were likewise remembered for suicide resistance as understood in the Haitian saying, Ebos pend cor a yo, meaning the Ebos hang themselves. The relationship between the names Olukwumu and Olukumi with that of Akumi(Aku or Egba) further solidifies the common origins which link the Western Ibo and the Egba peoples.
The Egba who like the Igbo were originally known as forest dwellers are acknowledged to have been at one time living east of their present day location. The process which led to the vanquished links of brotherhood between the Igbo and the Egba can be characterized by the often strained relations that currently exist between some of the eastern and western Igbo communities of today.
Biafran Nigerian World Message Board-JAN. 6th 2004 Efulefu of Western Kind.
“… lately some misguided Igbo people of Anioma/Ibusa (in short Western Igbo stock), have been making anti-Igbo noises. I read that a group of 419 purporting to represent Anioma and all Western Igbo issued a statement disavowing their Igboness… If you are from Western Igboland and you no longer wish to consider yourself Igbo you have only one option. Pack your damned bags and leave otherwise we are coming!!!”
History not only records the common origins of the Egba and the Igbo but their common destiny as they are identified as two groups most devastated by the slave trade which is expressed in the following;
“The Egba have suffered more than any other nation in West Africa from the depredation of the slave trade.”

Hello,
All Bia-rats, I still remain myself. The one and only Okokomeji, I’m drippin’ right now with my bigger-ass Yoruba swagger! You might think I’m cocky, I might just be. You call it Yoruba chauvinism or bourgeois, that’s how I live. I’m still the same garrulous boy that you love to hate, now I’m about to set the record straight.
Igbo people why do you always compromise?
1) Sonny Odogwe said public of the news that Wole Soyinka and Obasanjo are not Nigerians.
I asked who is he? Definitely nobody!
I don’t like praying incestuous Gorrilla a.k.a. OBJ, but as you might not like he has left a giant step on the sand of time. Wole Soyinka, the first African to get a Noble laureate and y’all think he’s bummed?
2) You always think you (Igbos) are vying with Yorubas; for really? When you are culturally inferior by all standards.
Would it be in education, politics, culture and exposure? I told every last one of you that Yoruba superiority is not by accident, it’s simply corollary.
3) To all Yorubas, Igbo people will never let you immortalize anything from Egba and Ife. They believe everything in Ife and Egba is theirs (being properties, land and the people.
So, no way for Obasanjo, Wole Soyinka and MKO Abiola. If una want Obasanjo and Wole Soyinka? We can only give you Obasanjo not our precious Wole Soyinka. They believe in their myths, that Egbas are the smartest and richest, and like jews with their business acumen. Therefore, Egbas are Igbos (because it’s what Igbo people known for). LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world renowned archaeologists have said it many times without numbered; that Ife is the cradle of Life and civilization (it’s also like Abuja of Nigeria to the whole world; because it’s located exactly at the middle of the globe). Igbo people attested that it’s true, but it’s theirs.
They said Egba means egbo, that Yorubas changed it to Egba.
Let me clear my throat on that one; I say it often that there are just two languages in the world that share similarity with Yoruba, which are Spanish and French. But Yorubas surpass them in both (Stress and accent marks), those marks make our language a prototype of its own.
Get the fact straight:
Egba is no where derived from Egbo!
In Yoruba, through the stress and accent marks; Egba can mean five things.
Egba (take)
Egba (Whipping cane)
Egba (beads or bangles)
Egba (I will let you know)
Egba (Abeokuta people)
Yoruba is the most coded language in the world, if you are a programmer, the more you code the better your work be. Accent marks have never been found in Igbo usage, everything is plain. Yoruba has more vowel and consonant than Igbo language.
4) Ifa is the Yoruba almighty divination modules, you would even have to be a trained warrior or priest under the tutelage of guardianship to discern it and was never meant for outsiders. Ife has always been the cradle of Yoruba and will forever be. So, if Igbos think they own Ife, they should come out with more convincing facts; rather than deceiving yourselves.

5) How many Yorubas in Nigeria? 48 million people!

How many want to worship Orisha? If I’m right, it would be not up to one million. That means we are letting our ancestors fade away little by little. I understand where many Yorubas are coming from? I think they still get bogged by their ancient astronomical fetish and supernatural lifestyles. Luckily for us, Yoruba religion (the only religion that made it out of Africa) is dual in nature. It composes of RITUAL AND ART, the art which includes (cultural dance, music, gospel, display of artifacts and e.t.c. ) Like they say in Yoruba (chicken does not have values at home; until it goes outside) that is the perfect description of Yoruba art and culture.
Currently, in American continent; it has an estimate of 70 million adherent followers. It could have even net 100 million; but during the slavery, the USA whites ratio to blacks is 6 to 1. So, they succeeded in outlawing beaten of Bata drums and practicing Orisha (when caught often equivalent to death by hanging which called lynching by then.
It so much practicing in every nooks and crannies of South America. We need to revisit our past cultural history (let’s forget about the ritual part but focus on the arts), this could bring more tourism to Nigeria. You might think it’s funny? Marlon Jackson wants to invest $3.4 billion dollars to build topmost world resort in Badagry town of Lagos and has the “Jackson five’s name ” inscribes on a life-size computerize billboard. Did you think it’s only for USA black folks? It’s for all 70 million adherent followers, before any other black people.

Give me a break Igbo people! You are wasting your time and your money which supposed to be spent on important things in the east (by traveling down to South America to convince people that all the black folks are yours, while majority of them claimed they are from Ife. Then, you started crying that you own IFE too. There has never been any iota of Igbo trace to Ife, please stop deceiving yourselves.

Despites, majority of us want to do away with “Orisha” will never let Igbos who are culturally inferior to us claimed the glory for the greatest achievement of our ancestors. Because, Igbo people trying hard to convince them, that’s like a blessing to us, they troop like battalions to Nigeria to see how life is from their providence in Ife. Everything is on youtube.

feyisan:

[table]Reply to Okokomeji
Dumb-ass, are you on powder this morning? I guess you must be hallucinating for this gibberish[/table]

Okokomeji
I must say your reply is quite rude and below intellectual expectation.

Please grow up and be civilised a bit.
Should you allow your emotion to rule your reasoning I doubt you will ever get anywhere.

I am sorry if you feel disrespected for my comment. I wrote that out of annoyance, I mean if you want progress for this great country; you won't expect IBB coming back.
I guess you could learn from OBJ's mistakes. I wish Abacha could have killed him then, he's so foolish! The comeback of like of IBB or Buhari will bring more suffering to the majority.
Mind you, no matter how they feign with religion and their theocracy ideals which are on contrary to present democracy; they were both got to power by coup de tae. The Buhari deposed Shagari and Babanginda did the same to him. This time, the angel I am waiting for is better than the devils I know. Think about it, presidency is not a birthright of anybody, you can be our president in future too who knows?. I really want Igbo man to rule too, despites my obvious criticism for Igbos; when they blame Yorubas for every of their throes. Then, they will realize that there is no messiah in the world!

Abagworo:

is orisa igbo,benin or yoruba?

@Abagworo


It's a Yoruba deity or is it Igbo? You could provide your facts, because I have mine. First of all, this is one of my links: http://www.eskimo.com/~elladan/gods/description.html
I told one of you before, where the masqurade came from? The whole knows it's a Yoruba Idol and I thank God the truth has prevealed.

dearie:

Should Immortalising Abiola be an issue now? when we have a myriad of pressing issues to attend to.

When will we ever learn to set our priorities right?

@dearie and Mrcracles or Mrcracy

Should Bia-failed self-determination and secessionist's mission be an issue now? When we have a myriad of pressing issues to attend to!

mafioso:

Immortalize ITT?

First of all, the topic is posted by Igboman, then, the first-twenty comments made by Igbos.
F.uck all Igbo people! I shall never see this great country divided because of Bia-failed and I pray God should reciprocate with every last one of you (your bad wishes for Nigeria). F.uck you, if you don't do amen, I do it by myself. Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just got off from an argument about this same topic. Haters, Abiola was on the same level with Nelson Mandela. He had fame, money to be. Igbo people, you want Ojukwu to be immortalized be bold enough and go to house of reps.  I bet non of you is redy to throwa rice on chinese wedding. Ojukwu had illions of Biafailed bloods hanging on his neck, now he feels like an alien in the UFO.

Your chicken has come home to roast.
Pa Anthony enaoro (an enemy in disguise, when they need helps from Westerners that is when you see them. He came to Awo's rememberance in AOU, he just showered eucomium of the sage and later came up with self-determination. Let's just assume, they want to immortalize Awo, he would be the first to object. Igbos are no good)wants self-determination in his backyard. It’s high time, his menopause ravaged old folk wants to have a pregnant.
Biafailed, you cannot break down this great nation on us, the worst should be you living Nigeria and go back to Sahara or Israel where you claimed you came from.
We have be cheated a long time and will lean with it, so you can to slow down your agitations.
Because, government has discovered Oil Or Oyel like you called it, in the east and now it’s high time for your self-determination?
Now, no more cocoa proceeds, it has shifted to Oil preceeds, the whole Nigeria shall be benefited from Oil, just like they did to Cocoa proceeds.
Resources distribution took this form. Of the 100% income accruing to the regions that were to retain 50%, thirty five percent redistributive income after polling together so that the regions without a good resource base could benefit, while 15% was to be polled together to run the centre. In the following analysis, we will see how the Hausa/Fulanis have withdrawn 98 % to the centre.
SWIFT ALTERATIONS:

This era saw the beginning of the deliberate distortions of the popular constitutional arrangements between the federating units agreed upon from 1953 and 1959.
First to come under the hammer was the revenue sharing formula. From the 50% revenue accruing to the regions according to the derivation principle, the new military regime removed 5% and added it to that of the Federal government in 1967. The government divided the regions (which had become four as a result of one additional region fraudulently carved out of the west in the heat of the Western regional crisis.
By 1975, Muritala Muhammed seized power from Gowon. Knowing that the Federal civil service was dominated by the Yorubas, because of their early exposure to Western education, 10,000 civil servants were sacked in a day. He equally ordered the removal of the Federal capital territory from Lagos, a Yoruba city, to Abuja in the north. Radio and television stations, which were established by the regions were also taken over. The same fate befell primary and tertiary institutions. The Federal government under Muritala said it wanted to ensure 'uniform" development. He took over roads and all health institutions which were in the care of the west. The first stadium of international standard built in the 1 950s in Ibadan by the Western regional government, which was also the first of its kind in Africa was taken over. And under the guise of the centre having enormous responsibilities in her hands, Muritala removed a whooping 20% from the remaining 45% revenue accruing to the states from derivation.
Under a new economic arrangement, another staggering 20% of the remaining 25% revenue accruing to states from derivation was removed. Shehu Shagari ran the economy aground within four years. The Buhari succeed coup’s regime could not understand why the states still had "so much" percentage of the derivation revenue in their control. Of the 5% derivation revenue remaining with the states, (three and half percent) was taken, leaving a paltry (One and half percent) for the states.

feyisan:

In all honesty I don't particularly hate the man for his past. However he must show
remose and repent.

His coming back might be to the advantage of Nigerians as his aim might be to repear the
damages he caused, win the confidence of the general populace back and receive God's favour
before the last minutes.

Dumb-ass, are you on powder this morning? I guess you must be hallucinating for this gibberish comment!

ikeyman00:



oduduwa oduduwa easy now

the way yall killed all the igbos in ife and took their land abi

oduduwa plzz me beggin up

u got no balls to come here and preach


plz desist from disgracin urself, u say u cook for the world.

thank you

@Irk-man000

Oduduwa no kill Igbos for Ife oooo, do you have proofs?

NB: Igbo people crying all about that (all the Yorubas in Cuba, West Indies, Haiti, Venezuela, Guyana, Jamaica, Brazil, Mexico, Saint Lucia, Trinidad and Tobbago, British Virgin Island, e.t.c. are their people.
They clamed Igbo people helped Haiti and West Indies secured Independence.
Ironically, West Indies only worship (Oshun and Yemaja), if they are your people they won’t worship all these Yoruba Idols

Haiti worship Legba (esu oda ra ni yen) and Orisa. Check the news, the Haitian president said earlier Voodoo (Orisha) would be put into law. He says it’s part of remembrance and total connect to their ancestors.

In Brazil, they believe everything about them is Orisha. They formed Santeria (combination of Orisha and Catholicism). Just to let you know that black out-numbered whites in Brazil. The Brazilian president just insulted white people with blue eyes as the cause of recession and said blacks don’t have to suffer fo it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Bsl42L_M4&feature=PlayList&p=E3A8DDA2503008E6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=62

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Yes ooooo!!! I cook for the world (with nothing but the truth though). Where you at? When my hover droping “Kulikuli” and “boil” straight from the sky. I cook for the world because I love to eat. I guess your B.itch ass ate from my cooks too, you were just too ungrateful, you like chicken that swipes its beak both left and right after a meal. Dumb-ass, you are not even on my level, you scared to write, type and draw facts. I told you already, you are not mu.thafuckin ready son. You are just a feather weight and I’m a freaking heavy weight, that’s just a fact! You are just a lam.e hommie, no lie! You could go around with sportscar (Ferrari); I f.uck around with a bicycle and I’m still going to gat damn hit the spots before your jerk-ass at the end of the day.

@Irk-Man00

You better keep quiet, if you don’t have facts.
We are not talking about Juju, I am trying to educate you about Oduduwa, so that you will ease yourself by fearing what you can conquer and hate what you don’t really understand.
(These people formed the best language ever, it might not be widely spoken or so popular; it’s simply the best).
Reason, you have just only two languages that can vie with Yoruba (French and Spanish) just with their consonants and vowels; but fail when it comes to proverbs, Idiomatic expression, stress patterns and accent marks.
The only African religion of the world.
They had the only colonial empire in Africa which is “Oyo empire.”
How would you define colonial empire and how many do we have?
The colonial empire spread wings across its boundary and made its culture reflects on it colonies.
1) Britain did and had the effect in (Africa, South mid east, East mid east, China and India.
2) Portugal did (Africa and South America).
3) Belgium did (Africa and South America).
4) Arab did (Africa and mid east).
5) Spain did (Africa and South America).
6) Oyo Empire did (West Africa, South America and North America).
Wikipedia even rated it on the same spot with Christianity and Islam, if there is Rule books.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_religion
It is possibly the largest African-born religion in the world. Though claims are made for an ultimately Egyptian/African origin to Judaism, Judaism was finalized as the religion of the Hebrew people of the Levant. Christianity and Islam also have long histories in Africa, but neither of those can claim to be African in origin in their present state like the undoubtedly African religion of the Yoruba. While much of Africa has increasingly adopted foreign religions, many indigenous faiths remain. The lack of proselytizing or establishing written "rule books" prevents these religions from spreading as much as Islam or Christianity. Regardless, they survive, both in Africa and the Western Hemisphere.
The Orisha is of two things that are mutually inclusive (rituals and arts). But nowadays, due to modernity; the whole world tends to focus on the art which includes dance, chants, music and gospel.


The reason to celebrate is manifold! First of all, if you want to play Music, Hip-Hop, Jazz, cultural dance, religion e.t.c in South America and you didn’t use it in the name of Orisha, Ogun or Oshun e.t.c., I bet you , nobody will patronize you. This makes our progenitors feel happy about their indelible scars and giant steps they left behind on the sand of time.
Did you know that Famous “Carlos Santana” singing about Sango and using his guitar tone to praise Olodumare (which mean elegua in Spanish) makes him famous and earns him success of a lifetime.
That something discovered by my great, great, great grand fathers, became the rave and vogue of time is not worth celebrating? If it’s that easy you can TYPE Amadioha ,Yam festival or Igbo Masquerades to see if it goes beyond Igboland for East
In America, just 20% of blacks go to church and 15% of those that attend church believed that Jesus was black. If you get to their houses, all you see is portraits of black Jesus. Then, about 40% believe in no religion at all. Not up to 5% believe in Allah. Then, the remaining more than 35% believe in spirits, and most of them refer to Orisha and Obatala gods. I have witnessed this many times.
Apart from strong Yoruba culture present in South America, USA also has large population of Orisha worshippers. This is why, when you study World Religion in USA colleges. They put Native American, white and African religions together.
!
We just need to check all the Yoruba Obas to sit right and teach new generation about our cultures, rather than fighting over supremacy or supporting the corrupt politicians to mooch our national cakes.
They need to portray all these idols in the way that seems innocuous as contrary to old fetish practices that scared people away.
Evidence of Orisha strong present in USA.

((This is my link: http://everything2.com/title/Yoruba
The Yoruba heritage was mostly forgotten in the US due to the slaveholder's tendency to make practicing the old customs a punishable offense. Many times the punishment for this was death. The new age of Yoruba beliefs have risen, in the US, in the last century due to the influx of Puerto Rican and Cuban immigrants to the US. The most common form, Santeria, is a mix of Yoruba beliefs and Catholicism and brings the Ifa deities, music, dances and rites with it.))


In America, the largest of shrines of any tribes other than whites. E.g. New York:
Temple of YORUBA/ORISA’IFA just in USA
South Carolina: Oyotunji Village (The one and only largest African Village in the whole USA. It covers about (120 km), when you get to the entrance it reads: You are now leaving USA, welcome to “OYOTUNJI VILLAGE” we greet you in the name of our ancestors!).
California: Ijo Orunmila, Ile Orunmila, and Awo Study Center
Florida: Ile Orunmila Temple, Ife Ile, Church of Lukumi Illinois: Ile Ifa Jalumi, Ile Osikan, Egbe Imole Agbon Iwosan
New York: Ile Ase, Lukumi Church
Tennessee Mimo Anago Ile Oshun
Charleston: Elequa
Texas: Ile Olokun
Virginia Ile Oyigigi Ojuba Orisa AKAN
Georgia: Akan Spiritual United Order
Maryland: Nyame Dua: Shrine House for Spiritual Healing
New York: Obaatanpa N’Abosum Fie
Pennsylvania: Adade Kofi Bosomfie Sankofa, Asona Aberade Shrine, Inc. Washington D.C. Onipa Abusia, Asomdwee Fie,
Shrine of the Abosom and Nsamanfo KEMETIC
Washington DC Region,
Florida: Ausar Auset Society Orlando Study Group
Maryland: Baltimore Branch of the
Ausar Auset Society International Pennsylvania: Ausar Auset Society in Philadelphia
Washington D.C. Ausar Auset Society
Washington, DC .“


The largest also in South America, from Cuba, Brazil, Haiti, Mexico, Trinidad & Tobbago e.t.c

@Irk-man00

You are focusing on the wrong thing. Santeria is practicing in Brazil, the mixture of Orisha and Catholicism. It's two by two (in catholic you supplicate for Mary sculpture and in Orisha with do the same thing.
You are looking behind a closed door, our religion has its pros and cons. Forget about old fetish practices. There is more to it than that; let's put aside the rituals. Yoruba religious beliefs are part of itan — the complex of songs, histories, stories and other cultural concepts which make up the Yorùbá religion and society. These are what majority practices in the new world. They simulate on computers to make them friendly idols. The cultural aspect is so huge; you see a lot of Afro-Caribbean trooping to USA to showcase their culture. They speak nothing but Spanish or English, but when it comes to dance and songs, they use typical Yoruba dialect to do all that and you could feel the vibe and energy. That is the only time I hear what they say.

Then, you said that is why Brazilians are suffering. Who told you that? A country with just 200 million people that controls GDP of 2 trillion dollars.
The Brazilians are not stupid, how could Portugal with just 10 million population enforced Catholicism on 200 million people of Brazil. Then, you clamed you are the Jewish of Africa; but you got to know that jewish people hate Catholics with passion. That means you are not jewish of Africa.



China has 1.4 billion people and 1.36 billion people practice (Buddhism, Taoism, and Chinese folk religions) which is to supplicate to their gods. Christianity is 28 millions and Islam is 22 millions.
A riot broke in minority part of China of recent, when the Muslims who constitute just about 2% told the Buddhists majority that they are infidels and (Muslims) in China are ready to convert all of them. Majority told them, these are what they worship to get to the stage of Superpower in the world.



India has 1.2 billion people and 1.15 billion people practice (BuddhismHinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism) which is to supplicate to their gods. Christianity is 35 millions and Islam is 15 millions. India even has god of cows, monkeys and chickens. They are everywhere even in Nigeria, you don’t have problems with that?



[When will you rely on Chukwu or Amadioha, you chase after anything looks whites. I bet you, if India shit for tin and blow little nose on it; you will probably push Okro and Garri to the garbage and grab your spoon to eat defecate of India, all in the name of imported.]



Now, tell me that 2.4 billion people of Chinese and Indian heritages are going to hell fire because they didn’t follow Christianity and Islam? The only African religion (Yoruba religion) that made it to the whole world you want to use your mouth to spoil it, because they are not known good in your backyard. Maybe you don’t want nothing good to come out of Africa?




If you think such outlandish achievements are not worth celebrating, you go on WIKIPEDIA and compare Yoruba religion with Igbo religion. You will see that there is a gulf of distance between eyes and nose.

This is what you will find on Yoruba religion on Wikipedia:


The Yorùbá religion comprises religious beliefs and practices of the Yoruba people of old before the Yoruba community encountered Islam, Christianity and other faiths. It originated from Africa (chiefly in Nigeria and Benin), and in the New World, where it has influenced or given birth to several Afro-American religions such as Lucumí in Cuba and Umbanda and Candomblé in Brazil in addition to the transplantation of the homeland religions. Though specific numbers are unknown, it is possibly the largest African-born religion in the world. Though claims are made for an ultimately Egyptian/African origin to Judaism, Judaism was finalized as the religion of the Hebrew people of the Levant. Christianity and Islam also have long histories in Africa, but neither of those can claim to be African in origin in their present state like the undoubtedly African religion of the Yoruba. While much of Africa has increasingly adopted foreign religions, many indigenous faiths remain. The lack of proselytizing or establishing written "rule books" prevents these religions from spreading as much as Islam or Christianity. Regardless, they survive, both in Africa and the Western Hemisphere.
Yoruba religious beliefs are part of itan — the complex of songs, histories, stories and other cultural concepts which make up the Yorùbá religion and society.

We are living in the squalor, because Igbo tribe is not sincere. If you can take 10% to praise Nigeria for one day out of 100% you use to curse at Nigeria both home and abroad, I bet you, Nigeria will progress further. We cannot be fasting and you eating on the same course of Nigeria; when you benefited most than us.

ikeyman00:

ITT style, embezlement as they comes abi? u are carzy and the oduduwa has beginin to know that lagos is a nigerian asset built by the igbos know how??

at this point in time we can only be grateful to the advancement in technology cuz people like u has be blackmailin the igbos

now the whole world can see for themselves so when the see omo nna in lagos,


now look at the last and desperate attempt from the most eduacted human being in the earth

@IRK-MAN00
Just to let you know that 92% of progress made in Lagos is by Yoruba efforts. Yorubas say, if you want to christen your child, you have got to look your backyard or better still, if you want to cut clothes for somebody, you got to look at yourself. That means, you can leave your east undeveloped and want to take care someone else business. We built Lagos by ourselves.

Then, I said if those facts are not enough, I would show the achievements of Oduduwa traits before modernity.

1) They formed the language with largest number of Idioms, proverbs. The number of consonants and vowels is more than the ones in English Language. Also the language with most stress and accent marks more than Spanish and French! Prove me wrong?
2) Yorubas were the first to urbanize. (Built strong structure with mud bricks, while your troglodytic people still living in the caves).
3) Due to early urbanity, they produced woven fabric (Aso ofi or Aso oke) through warp-and-waft method, while many cultures practiced walked butt-naked or sometimes with banana leafs wrapped around private parts.
4) They discovered the first (almighty formulae to solve puzzles) which is called Ifa Divination (which still continues all around the globe).
5) After Sumerians people of river Nile (which flows backward) they were the second to carved out canoes; and the first to travel across Atlantic ocean down to North America. Christopher Columbus got to America 1449 (by the time they had the first National census in Luxemburg, Germany) and one of the warriors in Chinese dynasty said, he had sailed down there seven decades before Americans; with all that being said, they found a trace of trades between native Americans and Africans, with the astonishing life-size head of Obatala’s sculpture erected in America (which through carbon dating test, dates back to 709BC).
6) Discovered the medicine that puts Yorubas on the map up to date as the only tribe in the world with highest rate of twins birth or multiple birth.
According to archeologists' record, Yorubas had the highest rate of art and culture artifacts and relics in Africa besides Egytp. Including the headless scupture of NOK headless fertile woman. Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni, the greatest modern sculptor and carver of all time, called the NOK headless relic sculpture (one of a kind and genius of African arts.
7) They made the first bassuka Local guns to curb internecine wars
They built the first organized society with a complex king, chief and warrior's clans.
9) The artifacts and relics they left behind made IFE arts to top the life in Africa
10) As the toll of modernity takes ancient cultures to the brink of extinction, Yoruba idols keep resuscitating all around the world.
11) The made the first significant drums (bata and Kudi), these drums still top the list of African drums. During the slavery, these beating drums were banned in America; they were beaten with connotations that made slaves formed rebellion against their masters. This why five Yorubas top the list of drummers of all time all around the world. Tony Oladipo Allen was among them. He had beaten drums for Fela Anikulapo and Victor Olaiya with numerous white bands around the world.
12) the cowries their first money for trade and barter before foreign intrusion, which later used to make decoration of gods; still survived up to date.
13) Oranmiyan staff erected in Ife long before discovery of North America, formed the prototype for a national monument in Washington DC. Oranmiyan used his staff to commemorate his warriors, USA uses “NM” to salute its falling heroes or solders.
14) The beads of old ages still valuable
15) Through their unique grout and chants (they influenced Jazz, Blues and Hip Hop).
16) Then, due to their genius in their time, they imbibed in us the best legacy, which I called innate knowledge.
This is why Yorubas stand out everywhere around the world in Education!


From this website below and of all 1200 gods known around the world.
According to this website' table of gods, Yoruba had 31 gods. Just second to Egyptian gods in Africa.
(http://www.eskimo.com/~elladan/gods/description.html)
Yoruba gods:
NAME ORIGIN DESCRIPTIONS

Oba Yoruba A goddess & protector of prostitutes
Eji Ogbe Yoruba/ Nigeria/ W.Africa A god that is king of the pantheon
Oshun Yoruba A goddess of healing, fertility & rivers
Aja Yoruba A goddess of healing, herbs & of knowledge
Oshun Ana Yoruba A goddess of love
Monje Yoruba A goddess of rivers
Ymoja Yoruba A goddess of rivers & of the sea
Aje Yoruba A goddess of wealth in all its forms

Olokun Yoruba/ Nigeria/ Benin A of fresh waters & oceans
Orisanla Yoruba/ Nigeria A sky god that was designated to be the creator of earth & living things

Oya Yoruba A warrior goddess of fire, rainstorms, justice & the wind
Egungun oya Africa Another form of the Yoruba goddess of divination
Olorun Yoruba Creator/ supreme god
Eshu Fon/ Yoruba Divine messenger
Yemonja Nigerian/ Yoruba She is one of the great goddesses
Ori Yoruba/ Nigeria The god of wisdom
Ifa Yoruba The god of wisdom, knowledge & divining
Eschu/ Legba Yoruba/ Africa These deities are messengers between gods & mortals, not very nice either
Eji Ogbe Yoruba/ Nigeria/ W.Africa A god that is king of the pantheon
Orisha Nla Yoruba A god ordered by Olorun to create solid ground
Shango Yoruba A god of war, storms, thunder & fertility
Oshe Yoruba A god of thunder & lightning
Sango Yoruba/ Nigeria A god of thunder
Sopona Yoruba A god of smallpox
Orunmila Yoruba/ Nigeria A god of mercy & destiny
Osanyin Africa A god of medicine
Ogun Nago/ Edo/ Yoruba/ W. Africa A god of iron, hunting & war
Ajalamo Yoruba/ Nigeria/ W. Africa A god of fetuses
Iku Nigeria A god of death
Oko Yoruba/ Nigeria A god of agriculture

Obatala/ Obosom Yoruba A fertility god, he makes barren women fertile & shapes the fetus in the womb

ikeyman00:

iluguinfool
presdo

u suprised this is popin out from oduduwa himself, seriously ikeyman never said igbos are better than yoruba but what we are sayin the trait is not good for nigeria

if i was u presido i wouldnt even waste my time on folks like him, koni koni, i cant be touched, if u like consult the nearest babalawo, the truth will keep surface

there was even a time, he tried his oduduwa trait on me, hmmm koni koni, then it failed , he then derailed the thread by writing in yoruba-juju lingo,it failed, he then opened another thread in off-topic section, i distroyed that thread, he tried to drag seun on things through his juju lingo, it didnt work

now look at the last and desperate attempt from the most eduacted human being in the earth

You said Igbos are the most educated in Nigeria and I said no, I need a proof. You point to me that, through SSCE statistics, Imo State is by far the highest. I didn't doubt that with it. But, I said Yoruba is by far the most educated and I would prove it to you, so that you know it's not by accident buts corollary.

Next time, when you brag about Igbo's education, don't try it around Yorubas. You already know that any spot your people hit today, we (Yorubas) had been there, done there and past there two millenniums.
In 1950, the primary and secondary schools in ONDO STATE alone is more than the whole schools in the East.
That’s not convincing enough.
They see all the states in East before they named (Ekiti state has the fountain of knowledge) a state where every family boosted of atleast one professor.
In the modern day Nigeria, Ondo state still has the highest rate of primary schools (810) and secondary schools (220).
Nigeria as of today boosts 105 tertiary institutions and more than 60 is from the west alone.
The two only institutions that made it to worldlist (Ife and OAU) are from South West. If they are going to include third one, it will be UNILAG.
Between 1953 to 1959
The first region to grant autonomy in Nigeria
• One of the most efficiently run civil service in the Common wealth.
• A respectable judicial system as against the Sharia law system of the north.
• The first industrial estate in Africa.
• Free and efficient health care delivery system.
• The first radio and television station in Africa
• The best road network in Nigeria.
• Free education at all levels with an effective scholarship scheme, which still accounts for why there exists a yawning educational gap between the west and other parts of the country.
• The first international stadium in Africa
• The first ever tallest building in Africa (Cocoa house) commissioned in 1965

Muritala Muhammed, seized power from Gowon. Knowing that the Federal civil service was dominated by the Yorubas, because of their early exposure to Western education, 10,000 civil servants were sacked in a day. This was widely celebrated in the whole Igbo land with “Ogogoro champagne” popping in the air; hoping before the end of 1990s Yorubas strength would be weaken. Ha ha ha ha, oops! Before they know we still going super-strong!


QUOTE from ((The Yoruba Today,

J.S. Eades

(Originally published by Cambridge University Press 1980)
))
The first is the sheer mass of material available: the Baldwins' bibliography (1976) has nearly 3500 references, to which I could add a few hundred more. The Yoruba must be unique in Africa in having four universities located in their homeland, all with flourishing history and social science departments deeply committed to the academic mode of production.

tpia.:

abeg go siddon.

I'm a nobody but you logged on as soon as you saw me doing so.

Now, what's your other well known id here, because some cowards are using multiple ids to "fight for the Yoruba cause" while displaying all kinds of stupidity elsewhere.

Someone who has to use a different id to "defend Yoruba" may well be one of the very people denigrating that same Yoruba under a different name.

na today?

LMAO You are so funny! Now, you tell who won, you saw me and you ran. I only have one ID.

$osisi:


as for me and my house,we shall serve the Lord.
Carry your ancestors and their wooden images comot.
They laid you a good foundation indeed
no wonder we are living in squalor

You are focusing on the wrong thing. Santeria is practicing in Brazil, the mixture of Orisha and Catholicism. It's two by two (in catholic you supplicate for Mary sculpture and in Orisha with do the same thing.
You are looking behind a closed door, our religion has its pros and cons. Forget about old fetish practices. There is more to it than that; let's put aside the rituals. Yoruba religious beliefs are part of itan — the complex of songs, histories, stories and other cultural concepts which make up the Yorùbá religion and society. These are what majority practices in the new world. They simulate on computers to make them friendly idols. The cultural aspect is so huge; you see a lot of Afro-Caribbean trooping to USA to showcase their culture. They speak nothing but Spanish or English, but when it comes to dance and songs, they use typical Yoruba dialect to do all that and you could feel the vibe and energy. That is the only time I hear what they say.

Then, you said that is why Brazilians are suffering. Who told you that? A country with just 200 million people that controls GDP of 2 trillion dollars.
The Brazilians are not stupid, how could Portugal with just 10 million population enforced Catholicism on 200 million people of Brazil. Then, you clamed you are the Jewish of Africa; but you got to know that jewish people hate Catholics with passion. That means you are not jewish of Africa.



China has 1.4 billion people and 1.36 billion people practice (Buddhism, Taoism, and Chinese folk religions) which is to supplicate to their gods. Christianity is 28 millions and Islam is 22 millions.
A riot broke in minority part of China of recent, when the Muslims who constitute just about 2% told the Buddhists majority that they are infidels and (Muslims) in China are ready to convert all of them. Majority told them, these are what they worship to get to the stage of Superpower in the world.



India has 1.2 billion people and 1.15 billion people practice (BuddhismHinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism) which is to supplicate to their gods. Christianity is 35 millions and Islam is 15 millions. India even has god of cows, monkeys and chickens. They are everywhere even in Nigeria, you don’t have problems with that?



[When will you rely on Chukwu or Amadioha, you chase after anything looks whites. I bet you, if India shit for tin and blow little nose on it; you will probably push Okro and Garri to the garbage and grab your spoon to eat defecate of India, all in the name of imported.]



Now, tell me that 2.4 billion people of Chinese and Indian heritages are going to hell fire because they didn’t follow Christianity and Islam? The only African religion (Yoruba religion) that made it to the whole world you want to use your mouth to spoil it, because they are not known good in your backyard. Maybe you don’t want nothing good to come out of Africa?




If you think such outlandish achievements are not worth celebrating, you go on WIKIPEDIA and compare Yoruba religion with Igbo religion. You will see that there is a gulf of distance between eyes and nose.

This is what you will find on Yoruba religion on Wikipedia:


The Yorùbá religion comprises religious beliefs and practices of the Yoruba people of old before the Yoruba community encountered Islam, Christianity and other faiths. It originated from Africa (chiefly in Nigeria and Benin), and in the New World, where it has influenced or given birth to several Afro-American religions such as Lucumí in Cuba and Umbanda and Candomblé in Brazil in addition to the transplantation of the homeland religions. Though specific numbers are unknown, it is possibly the largest African-born religion in the world. Though claims are made for an ultimately Egyptian/African origin to Judaism, Judaism was finalized as the religion of the Hebrew people of the Levant. Christianity and Islam also have long histories in Africa, but neither of those can claim to be African in origin in their present state like the undoubtedly African religion of the Yoruba. While much of Africa has increasingly adopted foreign religions, many indigenous faiths remain. The lack of proselytizing or establishing written "rule books" prevents these religions from spreading as much as Islam or Christianity. Regardless, they survive, both in Africa and the Western Hemisphere.
Yoruba religious beliefs are part of itan — the complex of songs, histories, stories and other cultural concepts which make up the Yorùbá religion and society.

We are living in the squalor, because Igbo tribe is not sincere. If you can take 10% to praise Nigeria for one day out of 100% you use to curse at Nigeria both home and abroad, I bet you, Nigeria will progress further. We cannot be fasting and you eating on the same course of Nigeria; when you benefited most than us.

fayahsoul:

MASSOB has way more physical, financial and human assets than MEND but dullards like u fail to overstand that looks can be deceiving.

And don't forget that there are many biafran indigenes in niger-delta so either part or all of ND is coming with us.

A lot of biafrans are currently in collaboration with MEND behind the scenes. . .their spokes man is igbo..

Jokes of no fun! It will be my joke of the day. Biafailed coming to clame a land on Western territory? Why you people always Biafailed Kobo wise and Nigerian naira foolish. I hope you act fast. Remember, God naturally divided us with water, as “Abokis” in Benue and Taraba already contained all the eastern land by ¾ you want to cross to the west? You make sure you dig mass grave and a lot of obituaries before you leave your eastern jungles ooo.
Anything Igbos want to do with MEND they should do it, you don't have to really snitch on your people, we are always ready.

@Tpia
Who are you? I'm sorry I don't know you because you are nobody. You can't deny it that you have never seen me or heard about me, you can't miss me son. The one and only Okokomeji, I cook for the whole world because I love to eat it. If you can't do it, I do it; because I'm that n.igga. If you got a problem with that let me know?

$osisi:



Carry your ancestors and their wooden images comot.
They laid you a good foundation indeed
no wonder we are living in squalor

You are focusing on the wrong thing. Santeria is practicing in Brazil, the mixture of Orisha and Catholicism. It's two by two (in catholic you supplicate for Mary sculpture and in Orisha with do the same thing.
You are looking behind a closed door, our religion has its pros and cons. Forget about old fetish practices. There is more to it than that; let's put aside the rituals. Yoruba religious beliefs are part of itan — the complex of songs, histories, stories and other cultural concepts which make up the Yorùbá religion and society. These are what majority practices in the new world. They simulate on computers to make them friendly idols. The cultural aspect is so huge; you see a lot of Afro-Caribbean trooping to USA to showcase their culture. They speak nothing but Spanish or English, but when it comes to dance and songs, they use typical Yoruba dialect to do all that and you could feel the vibe and energy. That is the only time I hear what they say.

If you think such outlandish achievements are not worth celebrating, you go on WIKIPEDIA and compare Yoruba religion with Igbo religion. You will see that there is a gulf of distance between eyes and nose.

This is what you will find on Yoruba religion on Wikipedia:


The Yorùbá religion comprises religious beliefs and practices of the Yoruba people of old before the Yoruba community encountered Islam, Christianity and other faiths. It originated from Africa (chiefly in Nigeria and Benin), and in the New World, where it has influenced or given birth to several Afro-American religions such as Lucumí in Cuba and Umbanda and Candomblé in Brazil in addition to the transplantation of the homeland religions. Though specific numbers are unknown, it is possibly the largest African-born religion in the world. Though claims are made for an ultimately Egyptian/African origin to Judaism, Judaism was finalized as the religion of the Hebrew people of the Levant. Christianity and Islam also have long histories in Africa, but neither of those can claim to be African in origin in their present state like the undoubtedly African religion of the Yoruba. While much of Africa has increasingly adopted foreign religions, many indigenous faiths remain. The lack of proselytizing or establishing written "rule books" prevents these religions from spreading as much as Islam or Christianity. Regardless, they survive, both in Africa and the Western Hemisphere.
Yoruba religious beliefs are part of itan — the complex of songs, histories, stories and other cultural concepts which make up the Yorùbá religion and society.
China has 1.4 billion people and 1.36 billion people practice (Buddhism, Taoism, and Chinese folk religions) which is to supplicate to their gods. Christianity is 28 millions and Islam is 22 millions.
A riot broke in minority part of China of recent, when the Muslims who constitute just about 2% told the Buddhists majority that they are infidels and (Muslims) in China are ready to convert all of them. Majority told them, these are what they worship to get to the stage of Superpower in the world.

India has 1.2 billion people and 1.15 billion people practice (BuddhismHinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism) which is to supplicate to their gods. Christianity is 35 millions and Islam is 15 millions. India even has god of cows, monkeys and chickens. They are everywhere even in Nigeria, you don’t have problems with that? Now, tell me that 2.4 billion people of Chinese and Indian heritages are going to hell fire because they didn’t follow Christianity and Islam? The only African religion (Yoruba religion) that made it to the whole world you want to use your mouth to spoil it, because they are not known good in your backyard. Maybe you don’t want nothing good to come out of Africa?

tpia.:

wait a minute and go easy with the insults.

Are you saying Obasanjo didnt annex Ondo state into the Niger Delta, because he did, along with Delta, Imo, Abia, Edo and some other states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_Delta

why he did so is anyone's guess. Maybe his bosses told him to do it.

He did and along with a few Igbo states. But Becoomrich never mentioned Igbo parts, he was only talking about Yoruba one and only state in ND.
Then, like of Ikeyman00, Fatahsoul, Abowrogo and so on (always want Becoomrich to talk about Yoruba breaking away to Benin Republic or draw his maps) why you guys mad at me when I talk the truth. Everything I said is nothing but the truth. Despites we are the most maltreated tribe in the whole Nigera we had never complained and even taught about secession. So, Becoomrich, anywhere you go on this forum and talk bad about Yoruba, it's gonna be btw you and I.
You put all every blame on Yorubas for your throes.
According to the statistics of major people that governed this great country across all regions.
NE represents 37
NW represents 36
NC represents 35
SS represents 31
SE represents 34
SW represents 35
Why is it that you always talk about Hausa and Yoruba as the people that hold this country backward? Yoruba only has 35 officials at the federal level which is by the same number when compared to the SE.

fayahsoul:

MEND should know better than to fight for a so-called "true federalism" in nigeria of all places. lol.

How can they still want to be a part of an entity that seeks to eat them whole?

What happened to the aburi accord? even though the breach and dumping of that accord was done 40 yrs ago by a military regime, we can see that those same irredeemable monkeys of yesteryears still run things but now they are disguised in civilian attire.

Nothing has change. Faces change but the game remains the same. In fact things are much worse now.

The struggle is not just one of resource control but one of survival and self-preservation.

Do you know what it will take to restructure nigeria into a so-called true federal system?
Please, nigeria can't even conduct a simple free and fair election takless of true federalism.

MEND should join the movement for secession and sovereignty if you want a future for your children. Nigeria is a lost cause. period

@Fayahsoul or Fatalsaboteur
Since MEND has publicly re-affirmed you that no secession plans, would you get over it please? If you want to bring your secession war, you better bring it now and get your twice beaten; rather than climbing MEND as your ladder to achieve your quixotic dreams. I laughed my ass-off, when I saw in the news; some "OGOGORO" sunken-ass looking outlaws who called themselves Biafrans, waving Biafailed flags at Obama. He just looked at them and snubbed. I was shocked not to see bigger-ass pot bellies among them, all I see was hungers with gaunt looks and tussle hairs; these are people who had a misplaced priority and a bunch of strong cowards (who save minutes and waste their precious hours).

otokx:

Each time i remember Becomerich and now Okokomeji; smiles come to my face - these guy are masters of confusion. When they start exhibiting one cannot but help stop and start to wonder from which planet they came.

I am not Becoomrich or Becoombastard, like that foolish called herself. I am not fighting for secession. All I am fighting for on the forum is, I don't want you Igbos pointing fingers at Yorubas all the time for your throes and wrong deeds. It's also a taboo by my own assessment, for (Igbos) who so culturally inferior to talk about us.

Therefore, I am not in any way similar to Becoomfool.
I challenged this b.itch ass two times, he ran away. I also alleged him being an enemy in disguise; he didn't get back to me. History would tell that "OYO" had never mimicked anyone, but many that copied OYO is what we see.
The stupid Becoompoor, claimed that Obasanjo annexed ONDO to ND, he drew a map of Niger Delta before Obasanjo regime in 99 and drew it back in 2007. Mr Becoomsilly (Onyegbo rat), what about Imo state into Niger Delta among western territory states? Answer me please where ever your stinking ass at?
Becoomscrub, get your fact straight, you are not agitating for Yorubas but Igbos. Yorubas do not hold such secessionist mission like Igbo people do. If at all, on the worse case senerio, if Nigeria breaks, it's the responsibility of 5 million Yorubas in Togo and Benin Republic to decide if they want to join us. The more than 70 million Yorubas in South America believe so much in inhabited Yorubaland in Nigeria as their through providence.

I only criticize the black sheep among Yorubas not the good ones. We need to remove too much respect for elders in Yoruba land. I will doff my hat 100 times for Tinubu, I can't help but could only spank Incestuous Gorilla with my baseball baton. But Becoomcrazy, always criticize Yorubas for everything, stay on your lane and face what concerns Biafrans not Yorubas. Then, put all your stupid maps into garbage!

@$Osisi

There are their greatest achivements:

1) They formed the language with largest number of Idioms, proverbs. The number of consonants and vowels is more than the ones in English Language. Also the language with most stress and accent marks more than Spanish and French! Prove me wrong?
2) Yorubas were the first to urbanize. (Built strong structure with mud bricks, while many troglodytic people still living in the caves).
3) Due to early urbanity, they produced woven fabric (Aso ofi or Aso oke) through warp-and-waft method, while many cultures practiced walked butt-naked or sometimes with banana leafs wrapped around private parts.
4) They discovered the first (almighty formulae to solve puzzles) which is called Ifa Divination (which still continues all around the globe).
5) After Sumerians people of river Nile (which flows backward) they were the second to carved out canoes; and the first to travel across Atlantic ocean down to North America. Christopher Columbus got to America 1449 (by the time they had the first National census in Luxemburg, Germany) and one of the warriors in Chinese dynasty said, he had sailed down there seven decades before Americans; with all that being said, they found a trace of trades between native Americans and Africans, with the astonishing life-size head of Obatala’s sculpture erected in America (which through carbon dating test, dates back to 709BC).
6) Discovered the medicine that puts Yorubas on the map up to date as the only tribe in the world with highest rate of twins birth or multiple birth.
According to archeologists' record, Yorubas had the highest rate of art and culture artifacts and relics in Africa besides Egytp. Including the headless scupture of NOK headless fertile woman. Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni, the greatest modern sculptor and carver of all time, called the NOK headless relic sculpture (one of a kind and genius of African arts.
7) They made the first bassuka Local guns to curb interccined wars
They built the first organized society with a complex king, chief and warrior's clans.
9) The artifacts and relics they left behind made IFE arts to top the life in Africa
10) As the toll of modernity takes ancient cultures to the brink of extinction, Yoruba idols keep resuscitating all around the world.
11) The made the first significant drums (bata and Kudi), these drums still top the list of African drums. During the slavery, these beating drums were banned in America; they were beaten with connotations that made slaves formed rebellion against their masters. This why five Yorubas top the list of drummers of all time all around the world. Tony Oladipo Allen was among them. He had beaten drums for Fela Anikulapo and Victor Olaiya with numerous white bands around the world.
12) the cowries their first money for trade and barter before foreign intrusion, which later used to make decoration of gods; still survived up to date.
13) Oranmiyan staff erected in Ife long before discovery of North America, formed the prototype for a national monument in Washington DC. Oranmiyan used his staff to commemorate his warriors, USA uses “NM” to salute its falling heroes or solders.
14) Then, due to their genius in their time, they imbibed in us the best legacy, which I called innate knowledge.
This is why Yorubas stand out everywhere around the world in Education!


From this website below and of all 1200 gods known around the world.
According to this website' table of gods, Yoruba had 31 gods. Just second to Egyptian gods in Africa.
(http://www.eskimo.com/~elladan/gods/description.html)
Yoruba gods:
NAME ORIGIN DESCRIPTIONS

Oba Yoruba A goddess & protector of prostitutes
Eji Ogbe Yoruba/ Nigeria/ W.Africa A god that is king of the pantheon
Oshun Yoruba A goddess of healing, fertility & rivers
Aja Yoruba A goddess of healing, herbs & of knowledge
Oshun Ana Yoruba A goddess of love
Monje Yoruba A goddess of rivers
Ymoja Yoruba A goddess of rivers & of the sea
Aje Yoruba A goddess of wealth in all its forms

Olokun Yoruba/ Nigeria/ Benin A of fresh waters & oceans
Orisanla Yoruba/ Nigeria A sky god that was designated to be the creator of earth & living things

Oya Yoruba A warrior goddess of fire, rainstorms, justice & the wind
Egungun oya Africa Another form of the Yoruba goddess of divination
Olorun Yoruba Creator/ supreme god
Eshu Fon/ Yoruba Divine messenger
Yemonja Nigerian/ Yoruba She is one of the great goddesses
Ori Yoruba/ Nigeria The god of wisdom
Ifa Yoruba The god of wisdom, knowledge & divining
Eschu/ Legba Yoruba/ Africa These deities are messengers between gods & mortals, not very nice either
Eji Ogbe Yoruba/ Nigeria/ W.Africa A god that is king of the pantheon
Orisha Nla Yoruba A god ordered by Olorun to create solid ground
Shango Yoruba A god of war, storms, thunder & fertility
Oshe Yoruba A god of thunder & lightning
Sango Yoruba/ Nigeria A god of thunder
Sopona Yoruba A god of smallpox
Orunmila Yoruba/ Nigeria A god of mercy & destiny
Osanyin Africa A god of medicine
Ogun Nago/ Edo/ Yoruba/ W. Africa A god of iron, hunting & war
Ajalamo Yoruba/ Nigeria/ W. Africa A god of fetuses
Iku Nigeria A god of death
Oko Yoruba/ Nigeria A god of agriculture

Obatala/ Obosom Yoruba A fertility god, he makes barren women fertile & shapes the fetus in the womb

$osisi:

Most of the "celebration" has to do with voodoo and idolatory
It's not really something to celebrate ,in my opinion
and before you mouth off, disprove me

Is that an achievement?
transporting juju and idolatory from Nigeria to the outside world

Yes, I can proof you wrong!

The reason to celebrate is manifold! First of all, if you want to play Music, Hip-Hop, Jazz, cultural dance, religion e.t.c in South America and you didn’t use it in the name of Orisha, Ogun or Oshun e.t.c., I bet you , nobody will patronize you. This makes our progenitors feel happy about their indelible scars and giant steps they left behind on the sand of time.
Did you know that Famous “Carlos Santana” singing about Sango and using his guitar tone to praise Olodumare (which mean elegua in Spanish) makes him famous and earns him success of a lifetime.
That something discovered by my great, great, great grand fathers, became the rave and vogue of time is not worth celebrating? If it’s that easy you can TYPE Amadioha ,Yam festival or Igbo Masquerades to see if it goes beyond Igboland for East
In America, just 20% of blacks go to church and 15% of those that attend church believed that Jesus was black. If you get to their houses, all you see is portraits of black Jesus. Then, about 40% believe in no religion at all. Not up to 5% believe in Allah. Then, the remaining more than 35% believe in spirits, and most of them refer to Orisha and Obatala gods. I have witnessed this many times.
Apart from strong Yoruba culture present in South America, USA also has large population of Orisha worshippers. This is why, when you study World Religion in USA colleges. They put Native American, white and African religions together.
!
We just need to check all the Yoruba Obas to sit right and teach new generation about our cultures, rather than fighting over supremacy or supporting the corrupt politicians to mooch our national cakes.
They need to portray all these idols in the way that seems innocuous as contrary to old fetish practices that scared people away.
Evidence of Orisha strong present in USA.

In America, the largest of shrines of any tribes other than whites. E.g. New York:
Temple of YORUBA/ORISA’IFA just in USA
South Carolina: Oyotunji Village (The one and only largest African Village in the whole USA. It covers about (120 km), when you get to the entrance it reads: You are now leaving USA, welcome to “OYOTUNJI VILLAGE” we greet you in the name of our ancestors!).
California: Ijo Orunmila, Ile Orunmila, and Awo Study Center
Florida: Ile Orunmila Temple, Ife Ile, Church of Lukumi Illinois: Ile Ifa Jalumi, Ile Osikan, Egbe Imole Agbon Iwosan
New York: Ile Ase, Lukumi Church
Tennessee Mimo Anago Ile Oshun
Charleston: Elequa
Texas: Ile Olokun
Virginia Ile Oyigigi Ojuba Orisa AKAN
Georgia: Akan Spiritual United Order
Maryland: Nyame Dua: Shrine House for Spiritual Healing
New York: Obaatanpa N’Abosum Fie
Pennsylvania: Adade Kofi Bosomfie Sankofa, Asona Aberade Shrine, Inc. Washington D.C. Onipa Abusia, Asomdwee Fie,
Shrine of the Abosom and Nsamanfo KEMETIC
Washington DC Region,
Florida: Ausar Auset Society Orlando Study Group
Maryland: Baltimore Branch of the
Ausar Auset Society International Pennsylvania: Ausar Auset Society in Philadelphia
Washington D.C. Ausar Auset Society
Washington, DC .“


The largest also in South America, from Cuba, Brazil, Haiti, Mexico, Trinidad & Tobbago e.t.c

okokomeji:

@$Osisi

Aloy.Emeka:

You well so?. What foundations did Sango and orisa lay down for you?. No wonder our economy is crippled. Other good foundations they laid down are 419, armed robbery, bad roads, no energy, political thuggery, militocracy, tribalism, poverty and rituals. Also, check out the standard of living of those countries that worship those things. Haiti is the poorest country in the American continent. Brazil is another 3rd world brother among them. Now, clap for yourself.

The reason why our economy is still like is because of Igbos insincerity. You ran curses on Nigeria everyday, you never forgot about Biafran war.Mind you you cannot eat your cake and still have it. You contribute Zero percent and turn to giant moochers.
When you say 419, na your people, Armed Robbery (Okrika bois number one). Is that all you want to hear?

$osisi:

Most of the "celebration" has to do with voodoo and idolatory
It's not really something to celebrate ,in my opinion
and before you mouth off, disprove me
The Brazilian Yoruba groups,Haiti and others have their voodoo dolls and idols named after the same deities in Yoruba culture
and the traditionalists amngst them worship the same Yoruba idols
Is that an achievement?
transporting juju and idolatory from Nigeria to the outside world

@$Osisi

$osisi:

Most of the "celebration" has to do with voodoo and idolatory
It's not really something to celebrate ,in my opinion
and before you mouth off, disprove me
The Brazilian Yoruba groups,Haiti and others have their voodoo dolls and idols named after the same deities in Yoruba culture
and the traditionalists amngst them worship the same Yoruba idols
Is that an achievement?
transporting juju and idolatory from Nigeria to the outside world

There is a reason to celebrate these gods, it might not be in such elaborated ways like they did in olden days. They laid such a good foundation for us that we subsequently build on.
The knowledge behind IFA created is larger than life and is one of the reasons why Yoruba culture will forever be celebrated outside world.
You mean only Brazilian Yoruba groups, Haiti? For your information, there more white Yorubas that practice Orisha, Ogun, Oya, Yemeja, Sango e.t.c. that black Yorubas.
If you think I am lying, they have more than 50,000 video clips on YOUTUBE.
It's only Yoruba culture, you will find on YOUTUBE, practicing by many outside world other than where it was originated from. Even with Egyptians vast gods and monuments, it's never passed Egypt; except in America where they reproduced their monuments at casinos.

Mind you, Santeria is widely practicing in Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico, west Indies, Trinidad and Tobago, Cuba and so on. This is the blend of either Sango or Esu Odara with Catholicism.
I guess this came to practice during slavery, the European settlers of (700,000) moved with slaves (4,000,000) down to where  known as Brazil today. Unlike USA, which they were significant number of Whites when slaves arrived. If they truly applied one-drop method (the law that stated if you have 99% white's blood but 1% black, you are black I think black population is two-third of white in Brazil. But they called the half-cast Metizos, which never be counted as blacks.
The Europeans armed with Catholicism and slaves were also equipped with their African beliefs. Then, Oyinbos wanted to force Catholicism on them like they did where they went. The slaves told them, the two religions must be blended together.
These are Santeria in practicing! Then, if Brazil with second largest Catholics could have practicing of Santeria by both White and black folks of Yoruba descendants, who are you by the way?
1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjfpthLPbLk&feature=related    (FromCuba)
2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgw0t7Sm1qs&feature=related (From Venezuela)
3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzJrgSAhn2U&feature=related   (Mexico)
4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhRtTGcIo6c&feature=related
Orisha combined with Catholisicm
1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhRtTGcIo6c&feature=related  (From Cuba)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdmNUafoEXg&feature=related (from Saint Lucia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjfpthLPbLk&feature=related (En honor a Changó y Yemayá)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HniiPRMe6Mk&feature=related (Orula)

Andre Uweh:

An aspect of Nigerian culture I cherish now is the South west traditional marks. Though in the past I did not admire it. With this marks, it is easier for me to identify people of the same nationality like me in the offices, shopping mauls,public gatherings e.t.c.

Don’t digress this topic, because if I start don’t complain about Yoruba bourgeois though!
Mr. Okrika, let me tell you, it's never funny at all. Tribal marks are not peculiarity of one tribe in Nigeria.
I am not really made at you, but that is what most Igbo people used to swipe at Yorubas.
Every tribe has its unique style of marks (despite it’s not common anymore, I still prefer those of Yoruba to many I have seen so far. The tribal marks have been outlawed across every nooks and crannies in Yoruba land. The only place you can find Yorubas with tribal marks is "OYOTUNJI VILLAGE," the one and only African village in the whole United States. It's stretched 50 miles and located 65 miles away from Charleston South Caroline. It's not governed by USA; it has its own king, priests and unique way of living. Despites, the village secluded nature, it has had many confrontations with FBI and USA authority in the past; simply because it worships Ogun, but convinced every party involved that its a way of life. The village still in Beau ford and will forever be there. Now, white folks come for annual Ogun festival.

But if you asked for the most Cherished Nigeria Culture? I would say Yoruba.
Because it's widely celebrated around the world. It has more than 70 million people adherent followers just in South American continent. If you want proof, everything is on YOUTUBE.
If you want me to provide you information, it won't take me 5 minutes, I have argued with some Igbo guys already and I kept all the information at my disposal!

ibelab:

180,000 ain,t that huge, if the Government gonna create side jobs for the students,but with what i,m witnessing that ain,t gonna happen, i,m joking or is it? Here the goverment tax the rich and the working class to sponsor others without help. ain,t nigerians paying tax?, is our oil dough no more runing? why most they make the student pay? i got my Education for free here.

Bro, everybody needs to pay tax. It will be 5% on all consumer products (food, clothes, shoes, e.t.c.) and 8% of luxury (like cars, houses e.t.c.).
This helps government to collect money back from greedy Nigerians who hoard money and never pay nothing back to society.

nex:

The only person that has made rel sense here is A-town. Do you people even know the reasons and basis for free tuition in Nigeria? Is it for ou to graduate, marry and sit in your husban's house or travel abroad and use our government funded education to serve another country. Tuition is expensive anywhere in the world. iu see no reason why Nigeria should 'do' father christmas with education and get nothing in return.

we can't sponsor cultists and prostitutes to college just to tuck a certificate somewhere, using our university system as a medium to just grow up. It should all end. Scholarships are there for those that have that much intelligence but cannot afford 180K per session. There are millions of candidates applying for university admission everyday of which only a couple hundred thousands can be admitted. Price will sift the wheat from the shaft and the others will seek and acquire scholaships. What happened to y'all sense of a free economy? So when it favours you it's aye and when it doesn't it's nay? Please be real.

and for those of y'all who want to rant and curse, God ounish you even before you reply. I'm here for you.

You are right, but government needs to create avenue before imposing that. Remember, majority of our parents could not save that amount at the end of diligently working year!
Let government creates a students' loan scheme, where every rightful citizen of Nigeria can get funds to attend college and pay back on installment plans after graduation. Then, the excellent students can have total package free college rides.
This is not the issues of sponsoring cultists and prostitutes to college just to tuck a certificate somewhere, using our university system as a medium to just grow up.
If government did not provide that means, I bet you, cultists and prostitutes will get admitted first, because of their affluent backgrounds!

I support this 100%, but on just one thing.
Before government starts this:
Social Security CARD, this will guarantee every Nigerian citizen undeniable right to attend college on loans and pay back years after graduation. This is how they do it everywhere around the world.

Then, we need to take Taxes serious. The money generated from taxes is enough for state government to provide social welfares "roads, housing projects, bridges, flyovers, modern state schools, e.t.c." This idea is so great (if there is additional oversight on it to prevent the looters or embezzlers) it will improve our standard of living by 40% within just 5 years. Before tax, I think SSC come first, which will be given to every citizen of Nigeria.

shesi:


the whole thing is kosovo is thought to be one of the main suppliers of weapons and other tactical support to niger delta militants. they have been doing this for a long time in return for black market crude sales and promises of future crude sales when the niger delta militants get their way. this was when they were still plotting their own independence moves.

So Serbia and the Nigerian government are sort of allies against sort of a common enemy.

Gbam! You are damn right.