Whatamidoinghere:

How many years??

Tell your friend not to bother his head too much about citizenship. He would have many options because he is studying for 4 years and he may even do his masters in Uk (which makes it 5). The most important thing is once he gets here, tell him to mix well with people (both black and white), he should have a good social life, relate well with his course mates, he shouldn't be shy, hang out at least twice in a month (pubs, cinemas) and then he will see what happens.

He also has a good chance of getting a job because he would have his UG studies and probably PG studies here. He can get work permit of 5 years after which he will get his ILR.

What will be will be.

Eniakii:
Hello pals,
can anyone advise on the best and cheapest way to pay for IHS and visa application fee.
I also want to find out if I can pay my application fee from the money in my account after I have printed my bank statement. (Note I only have money for my tuition fee and maintenance fee in my account, no excess that could be up to the application and IHS fee)

Hello sir, you cannot take out of the money you have kept in the bank for 28 days for your maintenance and balance of school fees except if the money is in surplus of the required funds.

If for example, the money you require for both maintenance and school fees = 100k and you have kept exactly this same amount in the bank for 28 days, do not let the money go below this amount until you have been given the visa. If the money is more than 100k in your account, you can use the excess of the 100k for whatever you feel like but it must not go below the required funds.

The home office will still likely check the amount in the account after going for your interview, so do not think that once you print out the statement, you can then move the funds away (the 15 working days for visa processing is to check that your documents are correct). I will strongly advice you not to touch or let the money go below the required funds until you have been given the visa.

The rule is, it is better to be safe than sorry.

Bourne007:
International students is key to the UK government. Even if Theresa May becomes Prime Minister, can it get tighter than what it is now especially with the cancellation of PSW. I doubt.

I'm sure OlowoB don dey happy now since he voted leave hehehe.

See bro, I am only concerned for future students coming to Uk.

And with all the money students pay in Uk, I still feel it is unfair how they are the major ones been affected with all this new immigration rules. Well, I don't blame them, I blame all the past leaders of Naija if not Uk is not even supposed to be near our level as of today. It is well.

spacyzuma:
Unto Brexit...

As Cameron is leaving, the Tories are preparing to vote for their next leader. Boris Johnson is not running. Theresa May is a candidate.

If you school in England, or intend to, better hope that Theresa May doesn't get that role o!

She's responsible for the tighter restrictions for overseas students and workers.

As in ehn, that Theresa May NA another wintch. E just be say NA from frying pan to fire. If she becomes PM, I pity all students that will be coming to UK from next year cos that woman will make it very difficult for incoming students.

On the other hand, I still stringly feel UK needs internationals students money and so the only thing that woman may do is to probably remove the extra 4 months they give students after 1 year visa or probably probably ...... Maybe ban students from working (this is almost impossible but that woman can do anything). Definitely that woman will make things more tough for international students, no doubt about it.

fizzile:
Guys,please don't be angry that am taking you guys
back. I still want to understand the 28days counting
rule. Please come to my rescue. Now this is how the
lil ish goes. As at a month or two months back,I had
the entire maintenance and tuition in my dad's
account intact. Then as at 17th of this month, tuition
had been deducted including bank charges @ the
rate of 285. Now my questions are:
1. Will it be right to have started counting the 28days
from that period?
2. Do I have to start counting presently with the new
rate of 377?
3. What's the way forward please.
4. I need to send my statement of account to get my
CAS, do I use d cbn rate to calculate the remaining
tuition or I use Oanda.com.
Please help out. Sorry am dragging you guys back.
cc: justwise,OlowoB.

Hello fizzle, if you have any further questions which you need answers to ASAP and you are not getting them on here, you can always contact the International department of your school.

Please also note that my personal opinion will be in black and home office rules will be in blue.

(1) You can use the money your dad has already placed in the account since last year sef provided the money is able to cater for both your maintenance fees and balance of school fees at the current exchange rate on OANDA and the printed bank statement must be recent.

Let me explain in simple terms......you want to print out your bank statement and send to your school to collect your CAS right? Just go to the bank and print out from June 1st to June 29 (that coves the 28 days period). Please make sure that the amount you will print out covers your maintenance fees and balance of school fees at Oanda's current exchange rate (this is what i will suggest). The school will likely use the rate of the day you printed it out (i may be wrong but confirm from the international/Admissions department of your school). After collecting your CAS, use the same bank statement for application of your VISA within 31 days (not more than 31 days).

The home office states that your money must be in the bank for 28 days ending no more than 31 days before the date of your application. Simply put,once printed, use it within 31 days for your application.

(2) The most important thing is that does the money in the account cover your maintenance fees and balance of school fees at the current Oanda Exchange rate? It will be preferable that whichever day you would print out the statement, check the current exchange rate of that day and make sure that when you do the calculations, it covers your maintenance and balance of school fees.

If you will print it out today and send to your school, it is likely that the school will use the current exchange of that day (i doubt they will use the exchange rate of 2 months ago) to judge your statement . I have advised that with this fluctuating exchange rate, to be on the safe side, students should put in extra money in their accounts.

Please if the money you have in your account at the moment (i think you already used the rate of 2 months ago to fix the money) will not be able to cover maintenance fees and balance of your fees at the current exchange rate, DO NOT PANIC. I will suggest you contact your school to seek their opinion before starting another 28 days count.

Home office on their website suggests that they will use exchange rate of the day you submit and pay for your application online but i strongly believe that with this fluctuating exchange rate, once you get your CAS (the school would have also verified your statement of account and trust me, the school needs your money and they would not want you not getting your visa), do your application online and go for your interview with the same statement of account verified by the school, you will get your visa.

For your school fees and maintenance, it is always OANDA rate that you must use.

[b]Finally, for your questions, you are not dragging anyone back. Ask as many as you wish. He who asks, can never go astray. I wish you all the best bro/b]

I actually don't see anything lavish here. Maybe it is my eyes that is having problems though.

spikesC:


Graduate Entrepreneur visa? Are you joking?
Anyone who has £200k as personal investment funding is not coming to UK to spend 10 years for ILR. If that person has £50k valid investment funds, he's also definitely not going to spend 10 years for ILR.
Tier 1 visa is 5 years for ILR

You are mixing it up big brethren. The Graduate Entrepreneurship Visa I am talking about is different.

You can apply for a graduate entrepreneurship visa (tier 1 visa) if you have a solid business plan and you have a Uk recognised Bsc or masters degree. You must Also be endorsed by a Unjveristy that is an authorised endorsing body (not all universities can endorse your business plan). If you are applying in uk it will cost you £465 and £342 outside UK.

All you need to show in your bank account is £945 of inside UK or £1,890 if outside Uk. The money must be in your account for 90 days. They will give you 1 year visa and you can also apply for another 1 year after the initial 1 year visa expires.

This graduate entrepreneurship may be good for masters students who wants to quickly make money for 1 year after their masters before returning to Naija.

But the condition is you must have a string business plan, your school must be an authorised endorsing bidy and must have just £945 in your account for 90 days. This is another sure 1 year visa extension route in UK

I just checked now and there are close to 100 UK schools that are part of the authorised endorsing body.

Whatamidoinghere:

What's the current rate?
Changing (£11,600 and £9,315) in Naira, kindly help with this using the normal exchange rate.

Thanks

The current Oanda exchange rate for today is .......£1 = 377.947 naira.

At that rate above, £11,600 * 377.947 = 4,384,185.2 naira

9,315 * 377.947 = 3,520,576.30 naira.

Please note, the Oanda rate is only adviced to be used by the home office for maintenance funds and balance of school fees (if any) to be placed in account for 28 days.

Also note that these rates do change on a daily basis (due to the new floating exchange rate by CBN) and the rate for today cannot be relied upon for future calculations. Cheers

spikesC:


This caused a debate here about a year ago. What the description said is not actually what is being used. Atleast, for the test cases we saw.
I argued with Justwise about that but the few people in the situation came back successful using the start date of counting as their date of application.

Nevertheless, as this might just be the visa officer allowing it, I am still not endorsing it. Just giving people hope and possibly, situational options.
As an advice, to use the start date of counting, print that date's result on the oanda CC and submit it with the application. To explain further, if you started counting on 1st June, go to oando CC, chose 1st June as the date and print the currency conversion result page.

Spikes c, to be honest I have been trying to recall how I did mine years back and I do not think I used the method Home office recommended. I am very sure I never used the date of application. I think I used the date I put it in the account.

Well, I will suggest students should go with what you said or whatever the international department of their school recommends.

To all students who are having trouble because of the fluctuating exchange rate, i think this explains it clearly.

The home office website states that "if you are using overseas currency, we will expect you to show (in writing on your application form) the closing balance in pounds sterling. We use the official exchange rate on the OANDA website. Where your funds are in a currency other than pounds sterling, the amount we consider will be based on the exchange rate for the relevant currency on the date of your application, taken from the rates published on www.oanda.com" source; www.gov.uk (Pages 44&45)

What this means is that the exchange rate that will be used by the home office for the maintenance funds you put in your account for 28 days is the rate as at the date you made the application. Please note that the date of application is the date you made payment online. It is the rate on that particular date that will be used irrespective of if the rate increases before the date of interview.

I think this should give students an idea of what they should work towards.

To all students who are having trouble because of the fluctuating exchange rate, i think this explains it clearly.

The home office website states that "if you are using overseas currency, we will expect you to show (in writing on your application form) the closing balance in pounds sterling. we use the official exchange rate on the OANDA website. Where your funds are in a currency other than pounds sterling, the amount we consider will be based on the exchange rate for the relevant currency on the date of your application, taken from the rates published on www.oanda.com" source; www.gov.uk (Pages 44&45)

What this means is that the exchange rate that will be used by the home office for the maintenance funds you put in your account for 28 days is the rate as at the date you made the application. Please note that the date of application is the date you made payment online. It is the rate on that particular date that will be used irrespective of if the rate increases before the date of interview.

I think this should give students an idea of what they should work towards.

As far as I know, there is no cap that will prevent a student that wants to go that route of tier 4 to achieve ILR so far there is academic progression (I am open to be corrected on this)

What the home office states is that you cannot spend more than 2 years studying below Uk bachelors degree.

Some students may get full funded scholarship for PHD (my brother was fully funded for his PHD and he was even given monthly stipends).

Many Nigerians in time past, used this route very well to get ILR. Just that now, it has become more difficult to get jobs and survive as a student in the present UK.

But why do all this wahala when Canada Dey there? With 2 years masters in Canada, you may get extra 2 years and then..... The person find other routes.....

Whatamidoinghere:

Wow, thanks
Now I understand clearly.

Please i forgot to also add, if you are paying your fees using Form A, give room for at least 2 -3 weeks. Some schools would also like to confirm payment (at least 50%) before issuing CAS.

Remember to add the number of weeks to your planning. All the best.

ocheejemb:
"You can combine 10yrs of studying within the UK to qualify for indefinite leave to remain (ILR) but now you can't as HomeOffice has effectively closed that route."

This route is still open as far as I know. You do need to be progressing in your education i.e. you can't do two BScs

I was also about saying it is not possible but then i remembered that it is possible to actually do 4 years BSC, and do masters twice (still possible if the second masters is a different field and one can justify that it is of benefit or progress to the individual) and then do PHD (4 years). My brother, 10 years don complete be that o.

OR

4 years BSC, 1 year masters, 4 years PHD and then apply for the extra 1 year you are entitled to as a PHD holder (10 years don complete)

OR

Also, it is possible to do 4 years BSC, apply for graduate entrepreneurship visa (1 year) and then do masters (1 year) and then do PHD (4 years).

OR

Go through college, 2 years HND (must be an embedded college to apply within the UK) , 2 years University, 1 year Masters or even do 16 months Masters , 4 years PHD and another 1 years guaranteed after PHD. My brother, levels go still set

Mehn, the above scenario is crazy. What people do to become citizens, people back home don't just understand. I would rather move to another country than do all this long parol. Imagine how much one would have spent on fees, visa renewals and IHS surcharge and no more established presence (9 months maintenance fees again) for every application o.

But no be everybody get strength to do PHD, na where the problem dey be that. or some won't just have enough funds to go this route.

It is well

bebe2:


Dat will be gud.

Except I have this feeling that the EU will want to punish the UK for leaving so they won't be as cooperative ad they are with Norway or Switzerland.

Madam please how much are your rates now or should I call or text you?

Whatamidoinghere:

It's start of October not end of September, and what do you think paying in July. Enrollment is end of September, also what do you think about the 28days for maintenance statement.
What's the best time applying for V after paying for the first tuition in July?

I will advise you to apply for your visa latest last week of August because August and September are months many students will be applying.

Visa application normally takes 15 working days to process. So by maybe the 3rd week of September you would have gotten your visa and move to Uk for your enrolment.

As for maintenance, I will suggest you have the money in your account latest last week of July. Some schools may decide to see your bank statement showing maintenance fees before issuing you your CAS. If that is the case, by the third week of August, yiur 28 days would have been complete and you would just send the scanned copy to the school and then they would issue you your CAS.

With your CAS, you would then complete your online application and chose date for interview (last week of August) and then register with TLS.

With all joy and pleasure, I vote for the only gal who deserves it.

I vote Lanicky

Cc: NLjega

Cc: Agarawu23

Dustydee I see you. how your Uk parol? Hope all is well?

Please check my signature, NA today o.

Whatamidoinghere:
OlowoB
You means it's the best time to start paying, and how did you know that the pounds will come down soon.

It is just a forecast my brother and based on what "experts" have said, the naira should appreciate against the pounds albeit little in the coming weeks. By middle of July, the rates should be more favourable (not necessarily a sharp drop in pounds though).

You are lucky your program starts end of September. You can still pay your fees August ending. By then, I am very sure naira would be doing quite well against pounds.

Let's see what happens as the weeks go by.

Please vote my gal today. I beg of you. Check my signature and do the needful. Cheers.

obynwanyioma:

oanda's rate will also change. Wait till next week and see wonders.

braine:
Nice one! I never really liked Ambode, but he has proved me wrong that he is actually capable! Kudos.

Story for the gods. You never liked him because he was not in your party PDP. If he was in PDP, you would have liked him just as you currently like the current tout of Ekiti Fayose.

Thank God he put you and your other wailers to shame.

Honestly,tubaba fall my hand seriously. I expected much more.

claremont:


The implications for international students is that there still remains no hope for reinstating the 2-year post-study visa, I know a few people were hoping it will be reinstated sometime in the future. That is guaranteed not to happen, because the leave campaign rode on the back of anti-immigrant sentiments.

There will be no feasible implication for EU immigrants. If the UK imposes a visa for EU citizens, the EU will reciprocate by instituting a visa for UK citizens. I don't think any UK citizen will like to go through the ignominy of standing on a queue in an EU embassy to apply for a visa for their holiday.

I foresee Scotland instituting a second referendum on whether to remain in the UK, and this time, they might get it. So Scotland might be an independent country in the EU, just like Ireland is. This will favour international students as Scotland is in favour of granting post-study visas to international students.

Seems we Dey think alike.

Also good news for students as the pounds wil likely crash albeit temporarily. Make una quickly use Form A to pay fees sharply as from next week.

fizzile:
wow...so what are the implications and how will it impact UK generally?

Some people already explained different sides to it but for me I feel Uk will be able to control its border more without someone telling them how they should go about it. So many terrorists are already penetrating into Uk cos of this EU bond they have.

Also my beef with David is personal, no be today. He introduced so many policies that targeted so many foreign students. For this, he must go down and I am happy he is leaving in October.

I also foresee a situation whereby Scotland will renegotiate or vote for its independence. They did it last year and it did not go through but I see it coming back again. If Scotland should get its independence, they will attract more students by reintroducing post study.

All this may take time but in the long run, it will be beneficial for students coming behind us. this is my own opinion.

chucksbadt:


Thanks for response bro.....really appreciate.

Concerning the job, it's a career job i have always been longing for; IT Network Engineer. And it's a very big firm, I'll be managing over a 100 systems within the company and and about 50 in some other states.

As i stated before, i worked as an Intern in this same company(same department sef) for 10 months on minimum wage. All this while, there was a vacancy in that department for about 7 months now and i always being trying to apply. Eventually just a month ago, i gave up because everything look futile. That's when i got my MSc admission.


On the nut shell, everyone is telling me to take it, not just because of the salary, but because of the documented work experience it will gimme.

My brother, I just did not want to say it boldly to you before because I was not too sure if it is a job you wanted. Please take it with both hands and don't look back.

You can do masters in Unilag while working. Many of my friends do it currently. I am sorry to say it here, I have never been a fan of doing masters in UK since they stopped post study.

If you are really interested in seeing how Uk is, trust me, with your salary, you will be coming for visitation.

fizzile:
Did I just hear exit won?

Bro no mind me, exit won. Over excitement made me to make a mistake.

The other news I am waiting for is for that PM to resign. I just can't wait.

All will be well. Everyone just needs to sit up and make right decisions. It will be challenging initially but it will end up well.

Nairaland will shake tomorrow. Please check my signature.

damn, honestly, Nigeria has a long way to go. That man kneeling down is finished because he will still end up loosing his job and then his pictures will be all over the internet. What is fayose ben trying to achieve by pasting this pictures all over the internet?

As for zenith bank, they are also in deep soup as all eyes will be on them now.

Nairaland will shake tomorrow. Please check my signature ASAP.

@op you come here on a forum filled with intellectuals and great minds of over 500,000 members and post something of this nature without a source? you must be high on whatever Fayose is smoking.

Nairaland will shake tomorrow. Please check my signature.

Whatever will make them arrest that tout of a governor is ok by me. I am so ashamed to say it that i come from the same state as the Governor. A state filled with intellectuals, where did we go wrong?

Anyways, Nairaland will shake tomorrow. Please check my signature.

and who cares? how did you even know they were sent to kill your secretary? who sent them? yeye man.

Nairaland will shake tomorrow. check my signature.

All the accounts, were they just frozen for no reason? In a sane country, all this her normal procedures that should have been happening since like forever. Call it witch hunt, i don't care. In 8 years time when Buhari is gone and PDPAPGA takes over, let them also witch hunt APC and then this country will be free from all this thieves.

I care less about all this demonic leaders both in APC and PDP and if you are here and you are in support of any of these leaders also, then you are part of the problem.

Something big is happening tomorrow. Care to know? check my signature.